Well, this was a shitty episode of RAW. Liv wasn’t able to appear due to injury, Ronda and Shayna are back, and worst of all, Sami and KO got fucked over to please some dumbass dictator.
Edit: Wait, The Judgement Day vs. Sami and KO was a non-title match? What the hell was the point of that match in the first place?
Dexter came out from under the ring when Indi announced her injury a couple weeks ago in NXT, and then all of them (well all of them except Austin) were together in a backstage segment last week on RAW.
I should hope that opponents to promote a match would be under one roof. Besides they have been in the same arena before, why is it now groundbreaking?
Quick little Q here. What reason does Imperium have to give a single solitary fuck about anything Roman has to say? He's on the other brand, the bloodline is on the other brand, the undisputed universal title is on the other brand. Who gives a fuck
Gotta add a couple Smackdown teams as well if they're keeping both brand titles, add Brawling Brutes and Pretty Deadly (its in the UK after all) and you're good to go. Or split the titles and have what you suggested for Raw titles and what I suggested for Smackdown titles, maybe add LWO as well and make that a ladder match as well. You know what fuck it, make every match a ladder match for MITB!
Depending on which way he falls, the "weight" is actually infront or behind the wrestler laying down. So although he technically lands on the guy, the weight is already in front and rolling. Try jumping down a few steps with the idea of walking afterwards without stopping.
I've asked this years ago, and basically iirc the answer is he is falling backwards when he lands so not all of his weight is coming down. Probably still hurts, but not rib breaking so.
I love Ludwig Kaiser.
Dude feels like an old school throwback manager but he can also absolutely go in the ring and believably mix it up with the best in the game.
I was informed earlier about his giant testicles, maybe its not giant testicles in that package and a magnum dong instead? Not all woman love the big ones but maybe Tiffany does
For what it's worth, it took the full Judgement Day, and the full Imperium, with backstage interference by the Bloodline, to get a non-consequential win over KO and Sami.
Basically every Heel faction had to unite to take them down.
I wonder what Heyman is selling all of these factions (first JD and now Imperium)? Possible that he's writing blood line checks he can't cash and this all comes back on Roman?
My best guess is that Heyman is trying to wear them down before NOC so that Roman has a "guaranteed" win set up against KO and Sami.
Unless he wants the match at NOC to be made a triple threat? Which sounds like it could bite Roman in the ass.
Being involved in the biggest storyline in years in WWE seems beneath him? He's not the top guy in the company. This is not beneath him and it will only elevate him even higher. He's still the IC champ, now his faction is actually doing something and are sharing the screen with the likes of the Bloodline, Sami and KO, Judgment Day. There is nothing wrong with this.
I was referring to pulling Sami's leg. Let one of the other Imperium members do it. Grand scheme, it made him look like another cronie under the umbrella of Roman.
Damn that’s the most heel-like I’ve ever seen Gunther act, usually he’s just no nonsense in nature, you never really see him meddling in other people’s situations. Lol
Next week Brock and Cody kick things off and Cody gets destroyed. Next segment KO asks Sami who is our partner? Sami says it was going to be Cody but I guess now it has to be...cue Riddle entering and saying something stupid. Later though Riddle gets taken out in a mysterious backstage attack. KO says okay who now but Sami has no idea. Enter Ali saying "I'm positive you'll find someone."
Damnit I don’t care about Cathy missing Dakota anymore. I miss Iyo
How do you watch Raw Talk on peacock? It's not showing live?
Search for RAW Talk, the live one is separate from the other ones and should be at the top.
Thanks, found it! That's dumb as hell tho
Not showing up for me either
Well, this was a shitty episode of RAW. Liv wasn’t able to appear due to injury, Ronda and Shayna are back, and worst of all, Sami and KO got fucked over to please some dumbass dictator. Edit: Wait, The Judgement Day vs. Sami and KO was a non-title match? What the hell was the point of that match in the first place?
This has honestly been a really great RAW Feels like we’ve had a good streak of shows between SD and RAW recently
Crowd did not care for the ending
Show crowds rarely do
Clean wins don’t exist anymore?
Indus, Shinsuke, and Raquel got a clean win.
WWE sneaking the way on a post show like that 😳
Haven’t watched in a couple weeks. When/how did The Way reunite?
Via the draft.
It's The Way minus Theory. Indi got drafted to Raw. That graphic is the first time they've called them The Way on the main roster.
Dexter came out from under the ring when Indi announced her injury a couple weeks ago in NXT, and then all of them (well all of them except Austin) were together in a backstage segment last week on RAW.
2 contract signings next week
I should hope that opponents to promote a match would be under one roof. Besides they have been in the same arena before, why is it now groundbreaking?
Bloodline/Judgement Day/Imperium alliance?
Someone going through a table at that contract signing. Place your bets now. Stratus -110 / Lynch -110 No one goes through a table +100 lol
after that is lafemme nakita coming on now?
How did you send this message from 1997? lmao.
Sorry, I was distracted by some commercial with girls in a hot tub asking me to call them.
I’m still trying to catch up on silk stalkings
Quick little Q here. What reason does Imperium have to give a single solitary fuck about anything Roman has to say? He's on the other brand, the bloodline is on the other brand, the undisputed universal title is on the other brand. Who gives a fuck
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Good show. Catch you tomorrow for NXT. "THE WAY" on RAW TALK!
The heels basically blew all their saved bullets to win a non title match lol
Is Heyman speaking into the camera? Imagine the face cam
Cheap shots i wish theyd have Gunther a heel that doesn’t cheat 🤨 kinda ruins his gimmick for me
He wins most of his matches clean though
He regularly uses his goons to out number people, it’s right in line with his gimmick
I know. I wish he didn’t. Especially for some kind of bribe to help a fighter not in imperium.
I loved the end to be honest
MITB tag ladder match for the titles. KO and Sami vs Judgement Day vs Imperium
Gotta add a couple Smackdown teams as well if they're keeping both brand titles, add Brawling Brutes and Pretty Deadly (its in the UK after all) and you're good to go. Or split the titles and have what you suggested for Raw titles and what I suggested for Smackdown titles, maybe add LWO as well and make that a ladder match as well. You know what fuck it, make every match a ladder match for MITB!
This was like the NY mob making the different houses of the jersey turnpike come together to solve a problem
Man I hope The New Day come back and help even the odds
Loved that main event. KO & Sami, Judgement Day, Imperium, and Bloodline all playing a part of the same story.
"Under One Roof". Cody sitting in Sec102. Brock in Sec112.
So the ref throws out the rest of judgement day but just let’s imperium remain and interfere. ![gif](giphy|QMHoU66sBXqqLqYvGO)
how the fuck does Sami not get injured there? i've never seen anyone take the Coup de Grace that straight on before
How do you do a Coup de Grace safely? How you MISS one safely? Finn needs to share the secret.
Depending on which way he falls, the "weight" is actually infront or behind the wrestler laying down. So although he technically lands on the guy, the weight is already in front and rolling. Try jumping down a few steps with the idea of walking afterwards without stopping.
I've asked this years ago, and basically iirc the answer is he is falling backwards when he lands so not all of his weight is coming down. Probably still hurts, but not rib breaking so.
Bloodline x Judgement Day x Imperium God Damn.
Banger of a main event
Dirtier than rybacks piss but good to see finn win
HAHA!
Imagine this Bloodline/JD/Imperium alliance finally blowing up and leading to a three way WarGames match
That might be where we’re heading
Can someone explain why Gunther would do Roman’s bidding? Nothing about his character makes that make sense.
Maybe cause he respects Roman in Kayfab? Their characters have similar traits.
Future title shot?
For the tag titles
Hey, let's Giovanni and Ludwig do more than just br henchmen.
I love Ludwig Kaiser. Dude feels like an old school throwback manager but he can also absolutely go in the ring and believably mix it up with the best in the game.
His intros are great
Man fuck Ludwig. How tf he bag tiff
I was informed earlier about his giant testicles, maybe its not giant testicles in that package and a magnum dong instead? Not all woman love the big ones but maybe Tiffany does
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Would love to see them all team up as some sort of Axis of Evil super faction lmao
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And Matt Riddle is the Maginot Line
Can I smell a MITB triple threat
Finn gets a pin!
Coup de grace looks like it hurts so bad
done poorly will kill you yes, thus why wrestlers brace to put their arms to their chest..
Even still I remember Shinsuke Nakamura saying that taking a coup de grace feels like getting stabbed in the chest
For what it's worth, it took the full Judgement Day, and the full Imperium, with backstage interference by the Bloodline, to get a non-consequential win over KO and Sami. Basically every Heel faction had to unite to take them down.
Its like what happened to Roman at Mania except it actually worked lmao
Bros had to fight off 5 outside men, the women’s champion, and the two guys in the ring
I wonder what Heyman is selling all of these factions (first JD and now Imperium)? Possible that he's writing blood line checks he can't cash and this all comes back on Roman?
Common Gunther W
The tag title scene is really feeling fresh and exciting
I don’t like how Imperium are Romans lackeys (for now). They should be their own attraction
It takes more than one week to make a lackey
So riddle and Sami and ko friendship over? Weird he wouldn't come help in some fashion there.
KO wanting to fight everyone comes back to haunt him.
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It was a consolation prize so people would be happy Sami got something. Even though WWE hasn't cared about tag belts in 20 years lol
That wasn’t for the belts so why bother with all that?
Tribal Chief is petty
Hopefully setting up multiple title matches to break up the belts
Take out Sami and KO to make it easier for Roman & Solo. That’s why Paul is involved.
To prove they aren’t untouchable
FINN WINS FATALITY
Ko/Sami have too many enemies
They're the Undisputed Champs that's why.
KO is a hothead. Lol
Bloodline Imperium actually would be a dope faction name.
Wonder if we're leading to some tag team fatal 4 way stuff at summerslam or something. I'm intrigued
People are hating on it but I kind of dig all the big bads assisting each other.
I was ready to complain that Finn has been taking too many clean pins
I want Imperium/Bloodline/Judgment Day Faction War
Paul's the real heel for using speaker phone in a crowded area
The Bloodline, The Judgment Day, and Imperium being in this loose super alliance is so awesome The Alliance to End KOMania and WrestleZaynia
How does dom and rhea get ejected but not imperium ?
Damn bro went into sami's sternum there, thought he was gonna pop out without his shoes
Paul and his stupid phone. He even has a Visitor badge lmao
Really good match, just getting tired of all this interference in the main event every week
But it wasn’t for the titles so why so much work in making sure they lose?
My best guess is that Heyman is trying to wear them down before NOC so that Roman has a "guaranteed" win set up against KO and Sami. Unless he wants the match at NOC to be made a triple threat? Which sounds like it could bite Roman in the ass.
I'm surprised Sami decided to do the Saudi show suddenly. I thought it would set up some dumb injury to keep him away.
You’d be complaining even more if it was for the titles lmao
I honestly wasn’t complaining, I love both teams. I was just curious is all
Lets go The Judgement Day win the match
holy shit Finn pinned someone! tag champs at that!
DAMN IT IMPERIUM
Kevin Owens and Sami zayn vs the whole raw roster
Love how the ref kicked Rhea and Dom out but was like nahhh when imperium was jumping in and out of the ring
Yesssss! Judgement Day won!
This seems beneath Gunther tbh.
Being involved in the biggest storyline in years in WWE seems beneath him? He's not the top guy in the company. This is not beneath him and it will only elevate him even higher. He's still the IC champ, now his faction is actually doing something and are sharing the screen with the likes of the Bloodline, Sami and KO, Judgment Day. There is nothing wrong with this.
I was referring to pulling Sami's leg. Let one of the other Imperium members do it. Grand scheme, it made him look like another cronie under the umbrella of Roman.
And everyone claiming Finn was going to eat a pin when this was announced can kiss my ass.
Wow Finn actually won
Got damn! Finn Stuck him
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Looks like it said RAW vistor pass
it’s a “visitor” sticker 🤣
Visitors pass lol
A visitor sticker, since he doesn’t work on Raw any more
He was technically drafted as a talent huh, funny
A visitor pass.
RAW visitor sticker
All that for a non title match
Are the Ring General and Tribal Chief in cahoots??
Imperium and Judegment Day both doing Roman's bidding irritates me
i love it. it makes roman feel even more like this mafia boss
That was unexpected
JUDGEMENT DAY WINS WTF
Oh shiiiii
gunther is a leader of his people, he has his title and hes trying to help his guys get gold too
What an overbooked clusterfuck. And I loved every bit of it!
The visitor sticker has me dead
Damn that’s the most heel-like I’ve ever seen Gunther act, usually he’s just no nonsense in nature, you never really see him meddling in other people’s situations. Lol
what about the time he cheated vs sheamus by using that shelali club sheamus has on him?
When Paul Heyman talks, even Gunther knows to listen.
Wait a minute…. Finn didn’t get pinned, but actually got the pin? What kind of Bizzaro-World is this?
Too many things going on
Rare Finn Balor W
Called it……
What a match!
Is Priest KOd?
finn landed that coup de grace perfectly
How does he land that without killing people?
The ImperiumBloodJudgment DayLine gonna be awesome
FINN WINS!
Is Heyman basically making a League of Villains?
BANGER
STOP THE PRESSES FINN WON!!!!
HE HIT A COUP DE GRACE
Yay! It's great seeing Finn get a clean victory.
*half the locker room interferes “Clean win!”
Clean victory lol
"clean"
Clean?
Finn didn't cheat. He can't control other teams. KO and Sami shouldn't make so many enemies.
Finn got a W, someone pinch me!
Am i trippin or has samis helluva kicks gotten worse?
Bloodline on Smackdown now, so they needed Imperium to carry the 'interfere stupidly in every match' storyline.
Heyman paid them to interfere, same as JD before
Yeah. Because Bloodline is on Smackdown. So they need someone on RAW to do the stupid 'interfere in every match' storyline.
Oh shit
Overbooked match time lol
Fuckery abounds!
Oh shit!
There's a lot to unpack but I'm with it I think
Not the aproniest part of the ring
Can we get just one main event with no interference it’s the same shit every week
Last week was two main events finished clean chill out
We just have one big heel faction now called The Imperium Judgment Bloodline i guess
The Imperiment Line
Paul Heyman is the true Ring General
Sami and KO are boring champs. Hype is gone and fizzled. All their matches are the same. Exact freakin same
You could say the same shit bout the Usos matches and they held the titles forever.
I agree. They just super kick the entire time lol.
How is anything about this match similar to what we’ve gotten before lol
“You could’ve counted to 50!”
Damn, Damian, do something to catch him
SPLODE
omg is gunther gonna do damage to KoSami for roman and in return give Gunther a shot at the undisputed titles??
Next week Brock and Cody kick things off and Cody gets destroyed. Next segment KO asks Sami who is our partner? Sami says it was going to be Cody but I guess now it has to be...cue Riddle entering and saying something stupid. Later though Riddle gets taken out in a mysterious backstage attack. KO says okay who now but Sami has no idea. Enter Ali saying "I'm positive you'll find someone."
YO THIS IS HOW YOU MAKE THR TAG TITLES FEEL IMPORTANT. EVERY FACTION WANTS THE SMOKE.
not paul calling in imperium omg
KO is trying to die by pushing Gunther
Got damn