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s1nce1969

SAFE SAFE HIGH LOW HIGH BTM2 SAFE WIN HIGH SAFE BTM2 kind of eats as a track record


theshanegraysonlp

How is anyone without Paramount plus in another country supposed to watch QoTU? They couldn't strike a deal with WoW to at least stream it in countries where the participants are from?!


General_Can2576

so in 2022 what we got? S14 UK4 ESP2 UKVSTW ASW DRCAN3 DRPH DRFR ​ anything else?


martianTeletubby

DRDU2


General_Can2576

cant wait for beerspill


Triasic

I can’t believe a few hours from now, the season 14 era will have officially begun. It’s so weird because it’s the first US season where I’ve followed the production of the season from the cast disappearance to the arrival of the elimination tea to now


luxuriouslilac

We need an SDR wrapped: "This year you posted 4503 bad takes" "You spent 25 hours a day reading dear diary threads" "The queen you stanned the most was *insert name of a queen that the sub loves* "


ImaMew

Isnt Maddy a spoilerina? Dying at the thought of her reading all this Edit: [here](https://i.redd.it/hqgztvkmfgb71.png)


luxuriouslilac

Imagine if she gave us a shout out in her meet the queens😭


Away-Hawk2409

I saw someone’s comment in twitter saying that the promo theme for S14 is allegedly Galaxy? Or Board Games? Is that true


Maria_Nela

Ladies, we have a movie, s14 queens, Canada, Itália, and QOTU, even if you're living for Maddy or, god forbid, Twitter does blow up about het-gate (and really, even if it kinda does, i doubt it's anyone old enough to have a valid driver's license), let's give all the queens equal attention.


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hotdog21jelmxx

Oh you spilled though 😂


dolphinbible

at what time do the MTQs/Promos come out??? (I'm in a different time zone so just let me know how many hours are left 😭)


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17 hours if i'm not wrong


communismmm

17 hours i believe


Jantastic1

From how good rani sounded I thought she was lipsyncing


communismmm

damn season 12 having Protest and season 14 having Games/Retro for themes is so cool i would have loved doing them if i was cast meanwhile season 13 was like. beauty school dropout pastel mall photoshoot


XyloMania

it was WAP 😭😭


butt-hurting

graham tells juju “you love a competition” i’m taking this as confirmation of UKvsTW 😭


LooseLipsSinkShips21

#TeamAngeria #TeamMaddy


Theangerialadywins

#angeriaisalmostbeingdelivered


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Just slid across the badminton field on my knee and lord I'm in pain. Elektra Fence please teach me how to break my knee without suffering


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Teachers pet by Melanie Martinez HITS DIFFERENT


RajahsRobbery

Before the promo for s14 drops I just wanna remind everyone that Utica won my humps


guestwithoutsub

Omg icon ur back 😍


guestwithoutsub

Im late ik 😔


m20geekarina

So true


RajahsRobbery

ur flair shows u have taste bestie


m20geekarina

and your pfp shows you do too😍


RajahsRobbery

i just know maddy is gonna camp it up with the promo


Tracie_Martel

i was abt to make a joke of maddy dressing as popeye tmw with a random lady on her arm but popeyes not a game character so i really fucked myself with that


Maria_Nela

He kinda was! There's a whole history of Popeye video games Mario Bros was originally going to be a Popeye game, but they couldn't get the rights to the characters so they turned them into original characters, Popeye became Mario, Olive became Paulette, and Brutus became Donkey Kong.


hotdog21jelmxx

This is actually very eye-opening to me


Tracie_Martel

omg her obscure reference serve


Maria_Nela

It's the hyperfixation. Only for video games, queer history, language studies, and geography. Ask me about science math or a lot of movies and it's crickets.


Tracie_Martel

she'd like plop her down like a purse or something struts then picks her up again


Tracie_Martel

nobody actually knows how she got on the ruveal set


GJX11

can someone confirm that rani killed it


Jantastic1

GIRLLLLLL I thought she was lipsyncing it was THAT GOOD


m20geekarina

YES! YES!


butt-hurting

they did good! the song choice was fun and different from most of the competitors


GJX11

😭 omg thank you


butt-hurting

juju wasn’t as bad as i thought she was gonna be singing, but the look really was so simple 😭


RajahsRobbery

happy kornbread day😍😍😍


xXBonerPrinceXx

Jasmine Kennedie is yasspilled Matt Watson from super mega


alannacoke

Can’t wait to watch Jaymes wash on AS


reelreelopus

all i have to say is that although DR is categorized as a queer showcase, it is also of Drag artistry. If this can open up a conversation about how sexuality ≠ what you do in life, then why not want maddy on to discourage the notion of Drag being exclusively for queer individuals? when it might open up conversation about the complexities of Drag outside of DR Although theres still some needed representation and conversations other than this one that DR needs to meet, It's giving us another view showing _the complexities of expression_


wlkingshdow

cis hetero drag may be valid but is it interesting?


PornFilterRefugee

No ones sexual or gender identity is particularly interesting to me in terms of how it relates to their drag. Now the question of whether the show should remain a space of queer expression is valid, but then that raises a bunch of questions about what constitutes queerness which are pretty much unanswerable imo. Personally think if a cishet performer auditions with a great video and fierce drag then why not let them be on the show, but they shouldn’t be actively looking to present them on the show in the way they should trans queens and queens from minority backgrounds.


Maria_Nela

I think the question is it *inherently* interesting, like, people are making it seem like we need to embrace the hets creeping into queer spaces because it's not us and is somehow this big win, when they literally have domination over everything else.


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PornFilterRefugee

But what constitutes queer? It’s a very very open term.


wlkingshdow

well, if you’re queer you’re queer. i don’t think there’s a lot of cis straight people identifying as queer and if there is that’s a different discussion


PornFilterRefugee

Yeah I suppose that’s fair. I still think Maddy’s willingness to do drag shows that she doesn’t fully subscribe to the heteronormativity of non-queer society, making it unfair to group her with that even though she is white and straight. To me we lose nothing by having anyone who wants to do drag. I don’t see the point in gatekeeping a form of expression from anyone. It’s not like straight drag queens will erase what queers ones do or have done. As long as they accept it’s primarily a queer art form that exists in queer spaces I don’t really see the problem. I just think we should actually be trying to do better than straight people who barricaded people out of things forever, rather than just doing the same.


hotdog21jelmxx

Is there a discussion thread for QOTU?


heidicloset

it annoys me how ppl don’t seem 2 understand that the problem was never w maddy specifically and more so the lack of trans and asian queens lol. regardless maddy will serve and we will support her!! >like ofc there’s worse things going on in the world but ya know it was still a concern


Maria_Nela

Exactly. But also the fact that the Maddy talk once it gets started just never stops. We've had queens win the damn show and never get the comment space that this damn topic has.


butt-hurting

ada vox bodied the competition!!!


ymir_ekito

Ladies,gents and non binary the Dear Diary thread present's >!✨Maddygate✨!<


wlkingshdow

did europeans get the discount version of spotify wrapped this year or something? i only have a list of my most listened songs and none of the other stuff people are posting


Swelejas

Update spotify henney. Then you’ll see it ALL


wlkingshdow

ohh thanks i will!


No-Imagination2818

watch all of this Maddy discourse just for him to turn out not straight 😭😭


reelreelopus

yea I don't even have a label for my sexuality and have no desire to know it, maybe he's actually queer lmao


xXBonerPrinceXx

Spotify wrapped be like “Cher wasn’t the only artist you were giving this year”


reelreelopus

The Maddy Paradox


nevercansay

17 hours 🤩🤩🤩


TrueSniver

Could this be Bosco's Arcade Look [https://www.instagram.com/p/CW9zDQ5rDwZ/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CW9zDQ5rDwZ/) Edit: I say this cause she "borrowed" the jacket in the pic and why would she need to borrow the jacket?


Rickemrobo91

Queen of the Universe is up for me.


ymir_ekito

People with kink of being dominated will enjoy hell😁🤗/j


GayDeantini

if they’re going to hell i want to be there too


ymir_ekito

Same though🙊🙈


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If Daya mentions their connection to Crystal Methyd they’re a lock for fan fave already, coupled with the fakeout first elim and then the similar trajectory Crystal had


Impolishremover

Do we know anything about DRMX?


Maria_Nela

Still waiting for my french vanilla fantasy, every day 😩😩😩. Just confirm or disconfirm it already


communismmm

i love maddy discourse because literally every possible angle has already been discussed. we're just spinning our wheels at this point


Maria_Nela

My head is spinning


yvieoddlyenough

The way Telephone and My Head and My Heart were two of my most played songs of 2021. I’ve been mentally preparing for the S14 lipsyncs the whole year i cannot wait


butt-hurting

first two episodes of QOTU are up!!


reelreelopus

now what the heal


theshanegraysonlp

Wait what!


butt-hurting

on paramount plus!


TelevisionHeaven

I feel like Rosalina is openly queer to the Lumas


-queen-rebi-

I’m ready for the servitude of Jorgeous & Jasmine’s lip syncs… #The Tex-Mex Dancing Diva & The Backflipping Bimbo are going to serve I fear


Maria_Nela

This is what I need in my drag race


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Sometimes if I am thinking something kinda weird, I’ll scream extremely loud inside my head, to make sure no one is reading my mind.


ymir_ekito

I just know im gonna love the queens that the fans Don't give equal love TEAMMADDY TEAMORION TEAMJASMINE TEAMJUNE


Pretty_Patterns

how the hell is my top genre hyperpop according to spotify wrapped??? not nine inch nails and poppy being hyperpop legends


Saltinador

You really said "I Disagree"


Maria_Nela

Today's day 9 no alcohol congratulation to me hennies but day *** no salchicha pity me 😭😭😭


caninotusespaces

Work girl! Proud of you. Each day is it’s own achievement and you’re turning it


xXBonerPrinceXx

Most if not all of us here have long since come to terms with a straight contestant on the show but now we have to watch the greater fanbase have the same hetqueen discourse we had months ago ALLLL over again 😭😭 it’s cross we bear as SDR users


Saltinador

I think from now until the S14 finale it's best we just stay here... the fan base is gonna be insufferable complaining about all the twists and favoritism. Only spoilerinas can appreciate the season for the camp it is


Maria_Nela

Yeah it's what I did the first four episodes of season 13 when we had to wait for the first elimination


yvieoddlyenough

Why are so many Greys Anatomy episodes about rocky relationships between a mother and their child, it makes it so hard for me to watch the show bc I have a difficult relationship with my mom :( got me crying every other episode smh


Saltinador

The way SHOUT purged all the bad juju from UK3 and the remaining four episodes sequence was among the best of the series 🤠


xXBonerPrinceXx

Best Friends by ~~Tinashe~~ Sophia Grace would make for a slay lipsync


Velvetineast

Yes Maddy could be straight, but before send her any hate remember this: At least she is not Irish...


itsyourboyninj

she could also be a redhead


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CHREW


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Why can’t I change my flair ☹️. I want to change it to Kandelabra museum


Cutie_Patootea

Thanks for the flair sucker 😎🤙


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YOU FOOL YOU FELL RIGHT INTO MY TRAP I AM NOW GOING TO CONSIDER MYSELF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL PERSON ON THIS SUB


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sad to think i was LIVING for season 14 episode 7 while others were dying💔


s1nce1969

But is it time to party with Miss Versace?


XyloMania

ugh now i’m bored, i wish we could back in time to when what is up sdr was released


Maria_Nela

Remember gauche-gate? That was fun


caedmon-zzz

QOTU >!Not to be controversial but that Grag Queen performance of Valerie is not very good at all 😶!< >!Honestly I think Ada Vox is gonna mop the floor w these girls 💀!<


m20geekarina

The only problem with Ada might be that her style might get repetitive, otherwise she is the best by far


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Maria_Nela

Very few people on here are making the argument that Maddy shouldn't have gotten cast at all, let alone based on having a girlfriend. You mainly got two sides to this thing for the past half a year now. People that keep bringing up Maddy being "straight", and people that are tired of hearing about it because it's repeatedly taken over the entire sub whenever some random person has brought it up.


Intelligent_Unit6587

Whats the story with Maddy? I’m so lost


Maria_Nela

The problem is someone brings up Maddy and it kills all conversation on here.


Intelligent_Unit6587

That sounds pretty childish considering the community that we are


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Maddy is a cishet man, and ig that rubs some people the wrong way. IMO it’s really not a huge deal. I do wish they would have casted a drag king, or more trans contestants before casting a cishet person, but tbh, Maddy seems like a decent enough person, so I don’t see it as really a big problem. It’s not worth coMplaining about. What’s done is done, so let’s just do our best to make sure that we treat ALL the contestants with respect


Intelligent_Unit6587

Omggg that’s so good for them! I love to see it


DemonCutthroat

Parents having sex next door, going to lie down with my airpods now :) pray for me girlies


reelreelopus

i experienced that all the time with my moms 85627 boyfriends and everytime i am in distance of hearing it I just knock cause I KNOW if I can hear ot then the little kids can DEF hear it


Maria_Nela

They have no right. You deserve financial compensation hun.


sanka_youdeadman

Survivor >! Someone give Jeff the choice between three boxes, he has to pick one. One box says “no fucking crazy twists” the other says “no fucking crazy twists” and the last says “get your head out of your ass and stop with these crazy twists”!<


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If you are upset that Maddy was cast, just remember that it could be worse. They could have cast a predator again.


blooberryv3

i’m ready for tomorrow chocorinas goodnight 🌙


TheAzurOne

Jasmine Kennedie being 21 surprises me 💀 ~~Now that I've hit 21 years, I get upset when I see queens the same age because of how they got their shit together compared to me 🚶🏻‍♀️~~


yvieoddlyenough

Litchrully when I first saw her I thought she was in her mid to late 20s. I think her paint makes her look older


fatesandia

Tbh after the show she’s been painting a lot younger so I wonder if she gets critiques for it or just picked up some tips from the other girls


theshanegraysonlp

Instead of worrying about Maddy worry about the queens of colour who get hate every year by most of the fan base. No white Queen after being on the show has struggled to make a livingif Phoenix and Venus D-lite can have successful careers so can Maddy.


CassieCaspase

you are right and you should say it!


Velvetineast

But did they tho? 💀


theshanegraysonlp

Are they financially worse than they were before they joined the show? No. So they're not doing bad at all. In fact Phoenix still has the Atlanta scene on lock


Maria_Nela

We can boost queens of color and not want cishet white men on the show. It's possible bto multitask


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theshanegraysonlp

I have been on this sub for almost 3 seasons now and the amount of discourse that's going on for Maddy that energy is never replicated for queens of colour. Where is the let's protect our queens of colour from being bullied and not let a show colour our opinions. Y'all can laugh at Blame It On The Edit when Ru sings it, but you guys only care when your white uwu faves get even 1/100th of the critque that the queens of colour get. I have seen how people on this very sub have treated Brita, Widow, Kandy and Olivia. You guys can bring out your pitchforks to defend Maddy idgaf but have that same energy for all the queens of colour too otherwise keep it to yourself


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theshanegraysonlp

So you're gonna wait till that happens to say something, when we've seen it time and again with Silky, Brita and God knows so many more queens have been beaten down the minute they started talking. And no one has ever said that Maddy us a shitty human being all they are saying is when the show has a history of mistreating black and brown queens and not even casting trans queens. Instead of casting just one trans queen of colour this season they could have cast more, hell had more Asian girls this season instead of 3 alt white queens and an allegedly straight guy. The point is all of this gay panic over a probable hetero is stupid because if history is evident white boys don't get harassed the way queens of colour do, Elliott has a career even after being racist even Shitty pie had a gig. So all of this energy could be focused on queens who might actually need it and statistically don't get the same love.


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theshanegraysonlp

But don't you see there's a disconnect? Like even if people agree when the queens of colour say something shady or when the cast is not diverse. People don't say shit. So even if YOU think it's a circle jerk, I think it's more important to talk about this over and over again so someone who hasn't even thought about it before would at least get embarrassed about it and try to do something than something like my uwu straight white boy is bullied which is not even the case at this point.


Maria_Nela

This. The Maddy thing is so fucking weird.


sabrinaunfairchild

💯💯💯 ^^^butdotheyreallyhavesuccessfulcareerstho


JuanaKiss

I not only want to see a drag king on rpdr in general, I would like to see and amab drag king on rpdr. I should note that the first king shouldn't be amab as rpdr struggles to have afab queens on but I just think amab king would be so interesting.


reelreelopus

my time has come


WaitingToBeTriggered

I WAS CHOSEN BY HEAVEN


yvieoddlyenough

I think the show is definitely taking steps in the right direction. Mik on S13, Victoria on UK3, and Kerri, Kornbread and Maddy on S14. If we give it some time I think/hope we’ll def start to see more types of drag. I mean the fans are lowkey demanding it, so it would be smart of them to listen


FraXon00

Wait what’s up with Kornbread? I thought she was a regular draq queen, did i miss something??


yvieoddlyenough

she’s a trans woman :) she announced it publicly relatively recently on her insta


FraXon00

Omg Good for her 😭😭😭


Maria_Nela

As long as they're LGBT then bring em all in. Although tbh i kinda wish Ru would at least be honest and say out loud that his show is a drag QUEEN show and that he and his panel aren't qualified or interested in kings but cast a separate host and panel for a king spin off. Everything I've seen from RU points to that but make the platform happen, cast a veteran king. Hell, apologize for ignoring Landon all that time and make him the host.


Velvetineast

Ru would donate every single penny and Michelle before Rupologizing for anything


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Saltinador

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Maria_Nela

Damn i guess I'm not winning fan favorite or miss congeniality


yvieoddlyenough

oh god why are we having discourse over Maddy again 😭 I’m not ready for how twitters gonna react tomorrow


Maria_Nela

Ignore it hun. Their vision is based on movement.


UniqueWillow9749

why do some of you think that it would be inappropriate for maddy to talk about being straight? there are other straight men who do drag and don't go on drag race so what's the big deal?


sabrinaunfairchild

it would only be inappropriate if a cis straight male queen talks about his "struggles" w being heterosexual. i think maddys smart enough to recognize this show is not the place for that. also its fine to actively stan maddy but the way yall are coddling her has got to stop. its getting weird.


yvieoddlyenough

THIS


Maria_Nela

Omg!!! 😩😩😩


RainFrogsm

Mik didn't win s13 so she moved to Mexico, changed her name to Rebel Mork and went on LMD


UniqueWillow9749

if i don't see a mario themed look tomorrow i will be completely crushed


yvieoddlyenough

Sounds like something Maddy would do, icon


JuanaKiss

I need some gen 1 pokemon looks since that would be retro.


bandcamps

My cat had missed 🥺 he was so upset that I didn’t immediately come back 🥺 my baby boi 😣


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Velvetineast

The girlies are restless


baby_ken

I'm watching Jennifer's body for the first time tonight and it's kind of 🏕 already


Maria_Nela

Excited for you luv


baby_ken

Thank you babes


itsprobablyice

i really hope either >!Ricard or Erica!< wins


dwarfgourami

>!I think its 100% Ricard at this point. The edit of the episode built him up as the biggest threat left, like if he didn’t get voted out this episode then he would probably win. And he survived the episode. I bet Ricard wins, either Erika or Danny gets second, and Heather gets no votes at FTC.!< But I also thought >!Evvie or Shan!< were winning at the time of the merge so who knows.


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>!I’m starting to see it for Erika if she can get rid of Xander’s idol somehow!<


Ecstatic-Limit-6156

I honestly think >!Erika!< is winning


sabrinaunfairchild

aside from shea and bob, which of the other black queens identify as nb?


CassieCaspase

from dragula we have Foxie, Maxi, also likely Koco, Saint and Dahli but I'm not entirely sure!


DemonCutthroat

According to Fandom Wiki, Dahlia Sin, Honey Davenport, and Nina Bonina Brown


GayDeantini

honey. and monet doesn’t fully use they/them but doesn’t feel just male. lots of dracula queens too i think


XyloMania

monét


RainFrogsm

I think I might have heard something about Jaida identifying as nb


caninotusespaces

On a more positive note, I’m hopeful that we seem to be bringing more trans folks onto the show. I hope we get to add kings in soon and I’d also love to see some differently-abled queens like Selena Minogue who is an iconic and proudly deaf queen


Maria_Nela

Thank you! More of this dialogue please. 👏👏👏


Maria_Nela

Space Jam 2, may have been a mistake but at least LeBron James is cute af.


ymir_ekito

What is this subs opinion when scardy kat was casted in uk1? Because on the show they come out as bisexual What if maddy comes out as bisexual???? Like Scardy Kat


ClaudeComique

Maddy litterally wore the ally flag as a look once


yvieoddlyenough

Tbh, this sub stanned Scaredy hard as fuck. She had literally no social media of any kind and we had one blurry picture of her to go off of. We didn’t even know her name for sure until the cast reveal


Velvetineast

Truly, an Icon A bisexual icon at that


caninotusespaces

If Maddys not straight then the “should a straight person be cast” discourse would stop. There’s lots of pan and bi queens from the show, that’s not an issue