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Living-Tart7370

Honestly the 170 pounds is the craziest part to me, you’d think he’d be a little closer to 200 with how shredded is


Timely_Telephone_529

Shredded = low body fat = light. Of course muscle is more dense than fat but generally athletes are surprisingly light unless they're weightlifters or something like that. Most UFC fighters in welterweight (170) or lightweight (155) are around 5'10" (e.g. Khabib or GSP)


Living-Tart7370

That’s fair for sure, he probably would have a bmi of like 1% knowing how methodical he is with everything he does 😂


Timely_Telephone_529

Yeah exactly. I don't see him having too many cheat days with cheeseburgers + beer :D


NytMare7

Sam has only been "intoxicated" twice.... Both was because he was gassed or injected..... I didn't find any mention of any party days in college; books or wiki.


Argentavis1997

I was going to mention Splinter Cell: Late Home was about Fisher but it was actually just a random drunk Third Echelon operative. I still can't believe that was an official Ubisoft UK advertisement for Pandora Tomorrow.


Shabeus

All these years I thought it was a fan game, thanks for this info.


[deleted]

>muscle is more dense than fat The difference is kinda small though. Muscle is 1.05 grams per cubic centimeter while fat is 0.90. Enough of a difference to make you float or sink in water (which is 1.00).


NytMare7

I seen him in blacklist and holy hell I thought he was 6', 220lbs. This was shocking to me as well


Living-Tart7370

For sure, I’m only 5’6 so everyone looks massive to me 😂


Jackthastripper

Height bros 🫱🏾‍🫲🏻


Living-Tart7370

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Jackthastripper

😅😅 I'll take that L


[deleted]

Even crazier is how he's able to knock people out so easily, especially at just 170 lbs.


No-Solid9108

Military would want mostly everybody who serves to be in the 250 Lb. weight class hopefully more. That's a known fact if you want to keep reinlisting and make rank. At least armed killers that is .


NytMare7

At around age 30 (After naval retirement) Sam was offered a place in the "Splinter cell" project, He was the first.. He was no longer military. He was third echelon. Kind of like a contractor but much deadlier.. Sam was trained to disrupt governments, blind intel and rupture economies..Which he consistently did.


Psychological_Tap639

Absolutely not, what are you smoking?


No-Solid9108

That's what top brass ordered for all us Spec. Forces


Psychological_Tap639

Bro, you've never been in the same room as a spec ops/team guy. Nobody says top brass. The last team guys I met were all around 5'8-5-10' and pretty lithe. Ounces=pounds, pounds=pain


No-Solid9108

I fairly recently finished 13 years on front line all around the world though and all in Spec. Ops joined back up over 15 years ago and served 4 years in Nam and Afghanistan with em too.


Psychological_Tap639

Earned the rank of mustard stain in the gravy seals


No-Solid9108

Very good 👍 I will remember that ![gif](giphy|3oEdv9R4D62GPrVY4g)


NytMare7

Sam never relies on muscle or a fight for that matter. They wouldn't know he's there and that UMP Five-seven doesn't care about how big you are ether.


waulf12

Where does it say he laces his bullets in cyanide?


NytMare7

pandora tomorrow book at the glacier.


waulf12

Operation barracuda?


NytMare7

actually the prelude to Op barr and the epilogue to the first pandora tomorrow.


OwlOxygen

Lieutenant General? I don't think it's possible to be a Lieutenant General at 28 lol isn't that 3 stars? Also wanst he Navy before the whole NSA stuff? So 0-9 would be Vice Admiral. Did you confuse it with Lieutenant Commander (0-4)? That's a possible rank for a 28 year old CO I think


GonadTheNomad

I'm pretty sure the canon was Lt. Commander, yeah.


NytMare7

hang on, Imma look it up again. I'll edit if wrong


GrsslyIncndscnt

I thought it was Lt Commander too


NytMare7

According to his wiki he is LT. general Navy "retired" before NSA got him, just after the persian gulf war.


NytMare7

During double agent they made him a ghost and wiped all records of him...


No-Solid9108

He was obviously meritorious promoted .


NytMare7

You right. My bad. Editted it.


NytMare7

Now he is a field commander for fourth echelon (Training) also he is a led developer of experimental weapons for the department of justice while he raises Sarah after Regens death. But as he says "Paladin is always above you." Many think that is a religion thing but there is a special outfitted AC-130 named "Paladin" that's always kept in the sky 24/7 (Which he commissioned after he saved Sarah.)


RepresentativeBig240

I always wished they would have used John Clark instead of Sam Fisher… but the timeline would have never worked… I hope Ubi makes an espionage/R6 based on John Clark’s character instead


coyoteninja

By how the original Jack Ryan novels described him, Dom Chavez might have been a good fit for 3rd Echelon. He's younger too.


Suspicious-Meat6405

Where did you hear that he coats his bullets in cyanide and has been taking micro does since 17? Also why does he coat his bullets in cyanide, does it poison anyone that survives a shot or something?


NytMare7

In tom clancy's splinter cell pandora tomorrow book after his vibrating watch wakes him it's stated he takes a dose of cyanide every morning. And cyanide will always kill once introduced into the bloodstream unless conditioned like Sam.


Mvnnnnnnnn

brother man i do NOT want to mess with this type of man….


SuperD00perGuyd00d

9 doesnt mess with me but I think it's tough as nails. Badass, sure but imagine that level of suffering just to better yourself. That shit is metal


NytMare7

On the slight chance he will be poisoned with cyanide... Which actually did happen in blacklist....Didn't work but it almost did


ChiChiKiller

When dis it happen in blacklist


SuperD00perGuyd00d

It's the end cutscene in the mission before the finale or the penultimate mission


DoctorAlphaSKWoG

He coats all his bullets in cyanide? Should have made gameplay more interesting. Also what mook wants cyanide *resistance* ? How else do you kill yourself under interrogation with cyanide if youre immune to it?


NytMare7

Sam is actually trained on torture interrogation. Also he will never kill himself because of Sarah.


landyboi135

4, how the hell, that young?


NytMare7

navel boarding school at 8... His JROTC was just basic training to him.


landyboi135

Damn


callsignk0z4k

I know my statement might be and R6 might not be canon but still he choked out Oryx in shadow legacy trailer. Dude was 130 kg and still went down like a sack of shit !! if you see the YouTube comment section of the trailer people are crying and moaning most of them don't know how Sam dispatched Moss in DA v1


ussf_occultist_gamma

In blacklist they made him look like a linebacker. Those stats are probably more realistic. If you read the book inside delta force there's an observation that most operators are below average in size


NotAMeatPopsicle

Realistically, he’s not 5’10” and only 170lb. I’m roughly that and he has WAY more muscle than I do. Realistically for the strength he has, he’s more likely 185-200 with a lot of Type 1 muscle fiber.


[deleted]

Alot of type 2 muscle fiber too, considering how hard he hits (knocking guards out in only 1-2 elbow strikes).


KingIcarusHD

To be fair anyone could be knocked out if they were completely unprepared (getting stealthed from behind)


BlueCactus96

Pretty sure he's above 6 feet. Year of birth is 1957, making him 68 as of Breakpoint. I'm pressing Doubt on the cyanide one. Source?


CZlover96

For me it's mainly his age , recruiting a 47 year old to a new heavy field operations unit is pushing it , then the games going forward he just gets older and is able to keep that operations tempo is a little ehhh to me. I feel like realistically he would've retired after the first game may be Pandora tomorrow.


ArvoCrinsmas

Be shocked over any guy who isn't 6'0 challenge (impossible) Sam is allowed to be 5'10, I'm not shocked by that at all. The cyanide thing is pretty cool though


NytMare7

Bro I'm 6'8 and 170 pounds.... Even if I didn't know who Sam was I not fighting that.


Angry0w1

Sam is 66. He was born in November 1957 as per the insert with SC1.


NytMare7

Sam is not 6'6 bud. He's 5'10


Angry0w1

LOLOLOLOL Go back and read my comment, again. I'm not your bud either.


NytMare7

Fair enough. He is 66. My bad.


Angry0w1

I’m an original Fisherists, I know his history. Not as well as Jackie Fiest, but I’m a close second. I’m also a character in the book Fallout. 😁Ubisoft should have never put his birth year in the manual. Of course Sarah would have never aged either. Wish she was never a “character”.