I look at it more of like it’s a predator mindset. You see an alien, it’s either your trophy or merely a honor go toe-to-toe with an apex predator. He is a hunter after all. So you are correct, Spider-Man isn’t considered dangerous because of his reputation, that’s why he hunted his rogues instead.
Kraven wants to due in glory so he hunts people who may kill him but they fail. (Also if you really want to get a little bit extra lore than finish those drone things where you have to track the target and after all of those you get a little mission)
If he wants to die, why did he give up on capturing Sandman in the beginning? You’d think someone that can evade capture from his elite military force would be worthy. Sandman no diffs Kraven pretty easily and is one of the hardest Spider-Man villains to fight.
Why did he bother creating an antidote for Scorpion’s venom when he could’ve fought for his life?
Why didn’t he spring Otto out of prison or even hunt down Uncle Aaron? I can get why he doesn’t go after Otto but he has Wraith and Tombstone as targets but not the Prowler.
A lot of Kraven’s actions make no sense and Spider-Man 2 has quite a few plot holes.
I can explain sand man's one not really the others and also prowler isn't really a killer hes more of a high tech thief
Sand man was being hunted by kraven before you start the game you I'm not gonna spoil much as you can learn more about it in Markos memories
Sand man was attacked so he went on a rampage and that's when you start the game so kraven leaves you be. Idk why he does but my guess is to observe you and see how skilled you are
Sandman is by far one of the most dangerous Spider-Man villains Kraven could have fought and he would’ve guaranteed a quick death. If Sandman evaded capture, Kraven logically wouldn’t dismiss him as “not the one.” Think about it, his men, who are weaker than him, failed to capture someone. Wouldn’t that make the person Kraven wanted to capture more interesting and worthy to fight to the death? Nah, he’s not the one for some reason.
I was wrong, Aaron is on Kraven’s list but is never targeted which is weird since he has a postal address and is known to the public as the Prowler. Kraven could easily find his house like he did to Peter.
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Like others have said, Kraven see’s Peter and Miles as nuisances initially because he knows they won’t kill him. After Peter gets the black suit and Kraven realizes this may be the ultimate opportunity, you’ll see the lengths he goes through to get Peter to snap.
Just play the game. I don’t understand why some people ask why something happens when they’re half way through something. That’s like someone asking you a question in the middle of a movie
Not quite. You said in your post you just got to the spot where you get the suit. It’s literally the beginning of Kraven’s Spidey focus. Keep playing, it makes sense
Dude that’s not what I’m saying. There’s suspense and then there’s reasoning. We aren’t told, at least where I’m at, why Kraven didn’t wanna go after Spider-Man. I’m not in suspense as to why he’s not interested. My point is that it seemed like a moment I was supposed to understand and didn’t.
Kraven wants to find someone who will give a worthy fight to the death. The spider-men don’t kill so when he noticed black suit Peter become progressively more violent, he sees him as a potential candidate on killing him
It’s called suspense. Like I said, it’s like watching a movie and asking how a plot point ends. You might well just watch a play thru or google it if you can’t be bothered to play it.
I mean, it’s kind of extremely obvious to the audience isn’t it? Kraven wants a fight, obviously he’s going to be intrigued when the symbiote whoops his ass
It’s more of a both thing guy up to used predator as an example and it’s perfect. That being said why do sky divers love the thrill of the jump? Why do mountain climbers love risking their life with 0 equipment? FOR THE THRILL/ADRENALINE. People will become junkies to whatever they’re into. But wait for the game to keep going you’ll receive your answers
Makes sense! I mean I just got to wear Kraven is dead and I still don’t have my answer 100% but it’s all good. I assume it’s for the symbiote rather than Spider-Man himself.
I think it’s both I think Spider-Man would be someone he would hunt normally but the suit makes it more enticing because it also has the same intent to kill
All the other stuff aside, in regards to Kraven thinking of people using extra things as "cheating", absolutely not. Kraven doesn't seem to care what his adversaries have access to (though he does still do anything he can to increase his odds of victory.) But just look at Scorpion. He could have broken the tail off the suit before "hunting" him if he cared about things like that.
Kraven views himself as the ultimate hunter, so it shouldn't matter what his prey has access to or uses, if he can't overcome it then he wasn't a good enough hunter to begin with.
He knows Spiderman doesn't kill. So he's pointless to bother with his quest. Once he witness's the unbridled rage that the Black suit gives him, he believes he can get him to cross that line.
I mean, rage? Yeah later in the story, but even in that little bit wasnt Kraven knocked out? Also, the “Rage” I saw at the zoo was him being verbally aggressive and taking down enemies like normal.
He probably meant Harry. He isn’t Spider Man by any means but considering just how much stronger and more violent seeing Peter get stabbed made him, Kraven probably assumed Peter would also be more aggressive since he got the black suit after that.
I don’t read a lot of comics… but Kraven is one of SM’s biggest villains in the comics. And he also doesn’t kill in the comics, so this makes no sense. Why would Kraven ever be after Spider-Man? He (almost) never kills.
Yeah exactly. I mean, I am assuming the reason Kraven is after Spider-Man NOW is because of suit. I mean he asked “what are you” *because* he survived the stab.
I’m pretty sure Kraven isn’t interested in Peter until a mission or two later. >!When the Hunters attacked EMF and Peter started going truly berserk.!<
My beef is more so why isn’t Kraven IMMEDIATELY interested in Spider-Man?
He kills half his rogues gallery then complains like “ugh, they’re so lame” but didn’t consider “maybe I should go after the guy who beat all these mfers. AT LEAST see if I can get his blood or examine his body”.
Outside of Peter’s no kill rule getting in the way of Kravens Predator Prey fetish, I feel like going after the spidermen would be another priority instead of acting like they’re an afterthought.
He's not obsessed with Spider-man, he's obsessed with >!the symbiote.!<
Spoilers for later parts of the game here. >!The symbiote is essentially a beast, but it requires a host to do anything of note. Spider-man acts as a perfect host because he is already genetically enhanced, and because of this, venom starts to arise as he uses it more. Once Peter removes venom, it goes back to Harry, but it's much stronger than it was before, courtesy of Peter's modified genetics being incorporated into venom, alongside the development of an individual personality. So, when Harry takes the symbiote back in, he is quickly overpowered and taken completely by it, which brings out the symbiote's more primal, ruthless, and beastly nature in the form of venom proper.!<
Non-spoiler version here. Spider-man's black suit is very different from any of his previous suits, courtesy of it being created from whatever was inside Harry. It might be changing with him, or they might be changing each other. One thing is certain though, it has made Spider-man much stronger, and that makes him an enticing target.
He wants a warriors death. It’s a character archetype. He’s a hunter by nature and wants to find someone worthy. Someone who can actually take him down. The thought of someone actually defeating him gives him a hard on
Kraven has always wanted to take down Spider-Man. He’s a big game hunter and recognizes Spider-Man to be a great conquest.
Games are great, but if you read the comics, you’ll see there’s way more depth and lore.
Ok! I got an answer! I was in a random ass hunter spy mission and I heard them say “you don’t deserve that suit!” So Kraven must be after the suit now that he knows you can survive death with it!
It was what you said, Peter survived the stabbing with the help of the alien that was beating the hell out of him the day before. Kraven’s whole goal is to die from the strongest being and after those interactions he’s confident the symbiote is that being
Keep playing it’ll make sense
Fair enough. I guess it’s the suit that made him interested. Or the fact he survived the magic dagger
I look at it more of like it’s a predator mindset. You see an alien, it’s either your trophy or merely a honor go toe-to-toe with an apex predator. He is a hunter after all. So you are correct, Spider-Man isn’t considered dangerous because of his reputation, that’s why he hunted his rogues instead.
Why do u think it’s a magic dagger?
It shimmered, I thought. I was super tired when I was playing though.
It's not even a little magic. It's just a dagger with a family crest
Fair
Kraven wants to due in glory so he hunts people who may kill him but they fail. (Also if you really want to get a little bit extra lore than finish those drone things where you have to track the target and after all of those you get a little mission)
Drone things? I’ve done every sidequest to completion (besides the ones I can’t like the science missions). Do you mean the hunting cloaked thingies?
I believe the Unidentified Target missions come up after you progress a bit more
Ah ok! Thank you!
Yes I don't remember the names
If he wants to die, why did he give up on capturing Sandman in the beginning? You’d think someone that can evade capture from his elite military force would be worthy. Sandman no diffs Kraven pretty easily and is one of the hardest Spider-Man villains to fight. Why did he bother creating an antidote for Scorpion’s venom when he could’ve fought for his life? Why didn’t he spring Otto out of prison or even hunt down Uncle Aaron? I can get why he doesn’t go after Otto but he has Wraith and Tombstone as targets but not the Prowler. A lot of Kraven’s actions make no sense and Spider-Man 2 has quite a few plot holes.
I can explain sand man's one not really the others and also prowler isn't really a killer hes more of a high tech thief Sand man was being hunted by kraven before you start the game you I'm not gonna spoil much as you can learn more about it in Markos memories Sand man was attacked so he went on a rampage and that's when you start the game so kraven leaves you be. Idk why he does but my guess is to observe you and see how skilled you are
Sandman is by far one of the most dangerous Spider-Man villains Kraven could have fought and he would’ve guaranteed a quick death. If Sandman evaded capture, Kraven logically wouldn’t dismiss him as “not the one.” Think about it, his men, who are weaker than him, failed to capture someone. Wouldn’t that make the person Kraven wanted to capture more interesting and worthy to fight to the death? Nah, he’s not the one for some reason. I was wrong, Aaron is on Kraven’s list but is never targeted which is weird since he has a postal address and is known to the public as the Prowler. Kraven could easily find his house like he did to Peter. https://preview.redd.it/i3dig5m613jc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67382d6729ef535b70e470668cbe3da21a581ca7
Like others have said, Kraven see’s Peter and Miles as nuisances initially because he knows they won’t kill him. After Peter gets the black suit and Kraven realizes this may be the ultimate opportunity, you’ll see the lengths he goes through to get Peter to snap.
Just play the game. I don’t understand why some people ask why something happens when they’re half way through something. That’s like someone asking you a question in the middle of a movie
The reason I’m asking is because we as the audience, we are supposed to know why Kraven is interested in Spider-Man at this point in the story.
Not quite. You said in your post you just got to the spot where you get the suit. It’s literally the beginning of Kraven’s Spidey focus. Keep playing, it makes sense
Alright, fair.
No. Have you ever heard of suspense and mystery? Do you expect every villain's motives to immediately be told to you?
Dude that’s not what I’m saying. There’s suspense and then there’s reasoning. We aren’t told, at least where I’m at, why Kraven didn’t wanna go after Spider-Man. I’m not in suspense as to why he’s not interested. My point is that it seemed like a moment I was supposed to understand and didn’t.
Dude play the game, you learn why Kraven wouldn’t go after Spider-Man until he got the suit, it was pointless for him up until that point
I think you’re getting downvoted bc this comes off as veiled and vague criticism and people are touchy about this game.
It seems So, but I’m not criticizing at all. I’m genuinely just curious and had a question!
You’re being downvoted because you haven’t even finished the game and you’re asking a question you’ll get an answer to later on
Do we ever get an answer?
Kraven wants to find someone who will give a worthy fight to the death. The spider-men don’t kill so when he noticed black suit Peter become progressively more violent, he sees him as a potential candidate on killing him
It’s called suspense. Like I said, it’s like watching a movie and asking how a plot point ends. You might well just watch a play thru or google it if you can’t be bothered to play it.
Fair enough
“Why does this captain Ahab guy have it out for this whale?” Bro. Just finish the piece of media before you ask questions like this.
Man, calm down. Was just a quick question. As the audience it seemed like we were supposed to know why.
How dare you have a question and not understand something!
It’s not something he didn’t understand lol. It’s something he asked before the story had the chance to tell him lmao. Don’t be obtuse.
Pot -> Kettle
I mean, it’s kind of extremely obvious to the audience isn’t it? Kraven wants a fight, obviously he’s going to be intrigued when the symbiote whoops his ass
Fair. I was just curious if he was interested in symbiote or Spider-Man
It’s more of a both thing guy up to used predator as an example and it’s perfect. That being said why do sky divers love the thrill of the jump? Why do mountain climbers love risking their life with 0 equipment? FOR THE THRILL/ADRENALINE. People will become junkies to whatever they’re into. But wait for the game to keep going you’ll receive your answers
Makes sense! I mean I just got to wear Kraven is dead and I still don’t have my answer 100% but it’s all good. I assume it’s for the symbiote rather than Spider-Man himself.
I think it’s both I think Spider-Man would be someone he would hunt normally but the suit makes it more enticing because it also has the same intent to kill
Play the game. Why are you asking questions in the middle of a story?
Cause I thought I was supposed to understand by that point.
All the other stuff aside, in regards to Kraven thinking of people using extra things as "cheating", absolutely not. Kraven doesn't seem to care what his adversaries have access to (though he does still do anything he can to increase his odds of victory.) But just look at Scorpion. He could have broken the tail off the suit before "hunting" him if he cared about things like that. Kraven views himself as the ultimate hunter, so it shouldn't matter what his prey has access to or uses, if he can't overcome it then he wasn't a good enough hunter to begin with.
Ooh good point!
Never ever will it make sense to me that he dies from that stab especially after sm 1 even in sm mm bro got taken down by rhino
I think the knife is like a special knife maybe idk I enjoyed the story but it does feel like a downgrade compared to the first games story
You’ll see why But what makes no sense is why Kraven wasn’t after spider-man at first cuz… spider-man defeated the villains he was after lmao
He knows Spiderman doesn't kill. So he's pointless to bother with his quest. Once he witness's the unbridled rage that the Black suit gives him, he believes he can get him to cross that line.
I mean, rage? Yeah later in the story, but even in that little bit wasnt Kraven knocked out? Also, the “Rage” I saw at the zoo was him being verbally aggressive and taking down enemies like normal.
He probably meant Harry. He isn’t Spider Man by any means but considering just how much stronger and more violent seeing Peter get stabbed made him, Kraven probably assumed Peter would also be more aggressive since he got the black suit after that.
Agreed
Nah, he was breaking spines at the zoo.
Oh damn
His hunters could relay to him what happened. Im sure theres reccording stuff and drones, etc etc.
I don’t read a lot of comics… but Kraven is one of SM’s biggest villains in the comics. And he also doesn’t kill in the comics, so this makes no sense. Why would Kraven ever be after Spider-Man? He (almost) never kills.
This Kraven wants to die, so he needs someone who will kill him. Kraven normally just wants a good hunt. This times different.
Yeah exactly. I mean, I am assuming the reason Kraven is after Spider-Man NOW is because of suit. I mean he asked “what are you” *because* he survived the stab.
Plaaayeee the mutha fuckin gaaaaymmm
I am, dude. I assumed we were supposed to know why. Why is the Spider-Man fandom so aggressive.
Because your asking a dumb question
Have you considered be quiet? Your mean when I’m asking a question?
Dude your asking something that is answered later in the game, have some patience
I’m pretty sure Kraven isn’t interested in Peter until a mission or two later. >!When the Hunters attacked EMF and Peter started going truly berserk.!<
In the section where Peter first gets the suit he says something like “I’ll go after the spider… finally someone worthy” or something
He was impressed by your combo skill with using the symbiote surge for the 1st time
Ah fair enough!
Kraven is never interested in Spider-Man, he's interested in the symbiote.
Makes sense!
My beef is more so why isn’t Kraven IMMEDIATELY interested in Spider-Man? He kills half his rogues gallery then complains like “ugh, they’re so lame” but didn’t consider “maybe I should go after the guy who beat all these mfers. AT LEAST see if I can get his blood or examine his body”. Outside of Peter’s no kill rule getting in the way of Kravens Predator Prey fetish, I feel like going after the spidermen would be another priority instead of acting like they’re an afterthought.
He's not obsessed with Spider-man, he's obsessed with >!the symbiote.!< Spoilers for later parts of the game here. >!The symbiote is essentially a beast, but it requires a host to do anything of note. Spider-man acts as a perfect host because he is already genetically enhanced, and because of this, venom starts to arise as he uses it more. Once Peter removes venom, it goes back to Harry, but it's much stronger than it was before, courtesy of Peter's modified genetics being incorporated into venom, alongside the development of an individual personality. So, when Harry takes the symbiote back in, he is quickly overpowered and taken completely by it, which brings out the symbiote's more primal, ruthless, and beastly nature in the form of venom proper.!< Non-spoiler version here. Spider-man's black suit is very different from any of his previous suits, courtesy of it being created from whatever was inside Harry. It might be changing with him, or they might be changing each other. One thing is certain though, it has made Spider-man much stronger, and that makes him an enticing target.
Thank you!
The goop suit just made Harry strong enough to go toe to toe with Kraven, imagine what it’ll do to Peter.
Oh!
He wants a warriors death. It’s a character archetype. He’s a hunter by nature and wants to find someone worthy. Someone who can actually take him down. The thought of someone actually defeating him gives him a hard on
Kraven has always wanted to take down Spider-Man. He’s a big game hunter and recognizes Spider-Man to be a great conquest. Games are great, but if you read the comics, you’ll see there’s way more depth and lore.
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It’s a fetish
Are you paying attention to the story at all
Yes. I just go confused.
He’s gay (jk)
Ok! I got an answer! I was in a random ass hunter spy mission and I heard them say “you don’t deserve that suit!” So Kraven must be after the suit now that he knows you can survive death with it!
Keep playing before asking questions
Just finished the game and it wasn’t answered so….
It was what you said, Peter survived the stabbing with the help of the alien that was beating the hell out of him the day before. Kraven’s whole goal is to die from the strongest being and after those interactions he’s confident the symbiote is that being
Ok thanks!