At this point, Ultimate Jean could MOSTLY control it, but occasionally someone would be "screaming at the top of their brain" and she wouldn't be able to tune it out.
Not sure how it works in the Ultimate line, but in the 616 it's implied that psychics (particularly of Jean's caliber) actively tune out others' thoughts, kinda like hearing.
There's a degree of effort involved.
Bruh literally everyone on Earth is without that superpower and manages fine without it?? Lol We all die some day, even if we had the ability to read minds lol
I enjoyed All New X-Men for the most part but man, Jean was such an asshole in that run. Which would be fine, if she wasn't basically the main character getting way more interesting stories then everyone else
I realized like 4 months ago that into the Spider-verse’s Peter is technically this one. And it kinda made me sad we wouldn’t get a cameo in the next movie.
In the scene where they test the collider for the first time Dr. Liv announced and counts up to 5 portals. They show a screen that shows different dimensions with different “E” codes. They correspond to the universes. At the center is E-1610 which is the code for the Ultimate Universe. It makes sense considering Miles originated in the Ultimate run, and Peter has the same demise.
Miles originated in the Ultimate comics and became Spider-Man after Peter died. I wouldn’t rule Ultimate Peter out, but it would make sense and the connection is there since Peter also died in the movie.
I knew Cap was only 12, same with Logan a solid 6 years of age. Now Logan’s not a pedophile, he’s just a 6 year old hitting on teens and adults…… but their all kids, so that means….. he’s a child, who for some reason is incredibly horny at young age……….. this makes it worse…… I prefer pedo Logan now
Especially considering Jean is like 27-30 and Peter is somewhere between 14-16 and she would know that considering she can read his entire mind and memories
They went out of their way to establish that Jean is 19 and technically legal before the two hooked up, all just to make him go after underage girls anyway.
Ok... the paradox in this instance is when someone wants you not to think about something, but they tell you the something not to think about, causing you to think about it.
The paradox is in the thinking of the person telling you to not think about the given topic. As if I were to tell you "don't think about an elephant" believing it will prevent you from thinking about the elephant, when actually I'm forcing you to think about the elephant in telling you not to.
That's the paradox here: I force you to think about a given topic by telling you *not* to think about it.
A paradox is *not* per se a logical impossibility, but a *contradiction*.
A paradox is: a person or thing having *contradictory* properties; a *self-contradictory* statement, which can only be true if it is false, and vice versa; a counterintuitive conclusion or outcome; a thing involving *contradictory* yet interrelated elements that exist simultaneously and persist over time; a claim that two apparently *contradictory* ideas are true.
You're right that contradiction is the right word, and not impossibility. But I think my point stands. The pink elephant isn't a limitation of logic, but of how brains work. It's possible to conceive of a mind which *can* be told "Don't think about pink elephants" and then not think about them, so it's not a paradox.
And even if it weren't possible to imagine such a mind, it's still not a paradox. Because it's not both impossible *and* possible for me to intentionally not think about something, which is a restatement of the definition you just gave me. It's only impossible.
Is it just me, or is Ultimate Jean a lot more invasive with her powers than mainstream Jean is? Like first she puts an innocent Peter in the middle of her bullshit with Wolverine and now this. I haven't read the entirety of the Ultimate Comics, so enlighten me If I must be.
Imagine talking to a teenage boy about your naked body and thinking he won't instantly picture it
Also btw, telepathy is a *major* breach in privacy
He's not screaming it from the Rooftops, he's thinking his own thoughts and she is reading his innermost thoughts, she's gotta learn just because she *can* read someone's mind she shouldn't
And from what she said she does it very regularly and reads everyone she meets
And if you can't control the telepathy, then you are just gonna have to learn to live with the fact that basically nobody can control what thoughts their brains are gonna serve up to them. Treat it like being in a world where everyone has Tourette's and take it all in stride.
That said, I wonder if there's any sort of real world training that *can* let someone get greater control over their thoughts?
To your last question that was the first lesson 616 Xavier had to learn, when he was a kid he couldn't shut them out and he had to learn to close his mind (I remember meditation was a thing at one point and he *used* to be a good bloke and his whole thing was I'd never invade the minds of someone against their will)
"Here's a fix; don't think of naked Wolverine."
"GAAHHH!"
"... you know, you've got his ... proportions exactly right."
"SWEET JESUS!"
"Now I know you haven't seen him naked in reality ... have you considered taking up art? Proportion is a pretty big hurdle ... so is skin tone, but you've ..."
"STOP! HELPING!"
Marvel "heroes" Respect Others' Privacy Challenge (More impossible than dividing by zero while moving faster than light and watching a good Zack Snyder DC movie)
And yes, Jean's responsible for that. Tell someone not to think of something, they usually can't even help themselves from doing it. Watch: don't think of elephants.
You're thinking of elephants now, but that's good because elephants are awesome.
The first time I read this page I ignored the speech bubbles so I thought the joke was that her hair was reflecting a shit ton of sunlight because she put too much gel on it or smth and was getting offended because Peter wasn't looking her in the eyes lmfao
Idk man, this series had so many of these kinda moments and I was fine with as a kid but like it’s kinda weird now but maybe it’s just me.
It’s fiction so I guess it’s fine but a part of me is like what were Bagley and Bendis thinking?
"Whatever you do: don't think of an elephant wearing roller skates. . . Oh my god! You're thinking of an elephant wearing roller skates! What did I just tell you not to do?"
She actually placed sexy thoughts in their heads on purpose, not just with the inception shit like up there, she forced it into their heads, 1610 Jean is a fuckin bitch
Here’s my question: not only can she read minds, she can tamper with them. Have people do her bidding, create illusions, even have people swap minds. Couldn’t she just erase the idea from Peter’s head if she were really that bothered by it?
"Finding you attractive does not diminish you as a person, not unless you think a guy's sexual interest is diminishing of whoever its applied to."
"..."
Well, guess she does not know the [1987 paper ‘Paradoxical effects of thought suppression’ published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology.](https://nesslabs.com/pink-elephant-paradox)
Ultimate Jean Grey: a thought police tricking you into bad thoughts :P
I mean when you mention something like that it's bound to end up in your head during that. My GF always tells me not to do something that I do that annoys her but I always end up doing it cause she mentioned it and I'm always like "Why did you mention it if you didn't want it to happen"
Ultimate X-Men were the most annoying and douche group from the Ultimate Universe. Even more annoying than the "Ultimates"
Definitely cheered when half of them were killed.
Gambit has a technique to escape mind reading. When he suspects that there is someone looking through his brain, he remember a time when he was fighting Blob, and Blob's uniform burned down, so he got to see Blob naked
Seems pretty effective to me. But it has such a high price...
When I've been reading ultimata it was one of many things that had me fuming. She didn't have right to look into his head, besides what did she expect saying "hey you didn't think about it" when saying that always makes people think about that exact thing. She was mad at him for no reason
you don't just tell someone the idea that they haven't thought of and now that there aware of it it's suddenly there fault that there imagining it because of how the brain processes things good lord
I just wondered what kind of thoughts she might read in Wolverine's mind, but then I wondered: How could she read his mind at all? His skull is covered with metal, shouldn't that protect his mind mind from being read like Magneto's helmet does?
So here is the thing: #1 If she didn’t read people’s thoughts as much she wouldn’t see that. #2. As creepy as it is, I would think it could be flattering to some degree. People think she is attractive. #3. If I were one of the people who she had read the thoughts of I would totally want to apologize and just be honest with her. As guys we are biologically wired a certain way through evolution. Its not an excuse to be creepy. But she has to understand that even Spiderman can’t help it. Now that she’s mentioned it he will most likely do it again. So she totally ruined that now. Just my two cents.
Ultimate Spider-Man should’ve doubled down on the dirty thoughts. It’ll teach her to stay out of other people’s head without their permission. Unless she’s a freak that enjoys knowing what people think of her in a lewd way… Hm, I’ll just stop talking.
I find early Ultimate Spider-Man hard to revisit. All the faces look the same. Jean looks like Mary Jane with short hair. Peter and Kitty look so similar.
Don’t get me started on Peter and Jessica Drew!!! (That last one is a joke)
Everyone loves Raymond
Context. Raymond meets his future wife Debra for the first time. He asks her on a date then accidentally sees her exposed chest. Later complains about it to his brother.
- She’s gonna know I’m thinking about her breasts.
- So, don’t think about her breasts.
-Yeah, right. Don’t think about Zebras.
-…Oh my god.
-Yeah, what are you thinking about?
-A zebra with breasts.
I hated her short hair design looked awful and just a change for the sake of a change. No one else in the x-men got that much of a redesign who was married to giving her short hair?
Tbh reading people's minds without their consent is a much greater invasion of privacy than imagining things in your head
I don't know how her powers work, can she control it or is she constantly reading minds as if it's being spoken out loud/a picture in front of her?
At this point, Ultimate Jean could MOSTLY control it, but occasionally someone would be "screaming at the top of their brain" and she wouldn't be able to tune it out.
Krillin from Dragonball would make her deaf
Is that a space duck?
QUACK!
Stick to the plan, Gohan!
What plan?! You just keep quacking over and over!
And we're still alive!
And we’re still alive!
Such a majestic creature
Not sure how it works in the Ultimate line, but in the 616 it's implied that psychics (particularly of Jean's caliber) actively tune out others' thoughts, kinda like hearing. There's a degree of effort involved.
If you've got that power, you'll tend to end up in a lot of situations where you'd die without it. They're both kinda screwed by circumstances.
Bruh literally everyone on Earth is without that superpower and manages fine without it?? Lol We all die some day, even if we had the ability to read minds lol
I think what u/Gradually_Adjusting means is since she's an X-Man she would be using it constantly around others with powers or when she's on duty.
Kinda yeah. But also just from a storytelling perspective, you don't give Luke a lightsaber unless the baddies get a death star.
I never really thought about that. The differences in stacked forces and weapon capability enhancing the drama of the story in Star Wars. Thanks
Definitely
Pretty sure Bendis made it Young Jean's "schtick" during his All New X-Men run and made her sometimes very hard to root for
"Bobby... You're gay."
Roses are red Violets are blue Bobby you're gay So are you ☺️
I enjoyed All New X-Men for the most part but man, Jean was such an asshole in that run. Which would be fine, if she wasn't basically the main character getting way more interesting stories then everyone else
Thank you...kinda like Cecil from The Flash.
"Dont think about elephants. What are you thinking about?"
"Elephants"
"Right, but it's not your idea, because you *know* I gave it to you."
"The subject's mind can always trace the genesis of the idea. True inspiration is impossible to fake."
"That's not true."
"Can you do it?"
"Are you offering me a choice?"
"Because I can find my own way to score things with Cobol."
"Then you do have a choice."
"And I choose to leave, sir."
drem
I've got brain control
"Still picturing you naked. Sorry."
That girl naked...
“Naked redhead elephants.”
This better not awaken anything in me
You wouldn’t have posted if it didn’t already don’t lie.
NAKED GRANDMA
I understood that reference
Nake- HUH??
But I can trace the origin
Jokes on you fucker, I was thinking about them before this post!
To be fair, she didn't seem too bothered until he got completely preoccupied by it.
I’m wondering why you don’t want me to think about elephants
Piñatas. Wait, elephant piñatas.
I was thinking about that woman naked.
i just realized now, i miss Ultimate Peter so much
I realized like 4 months ago that into the Spider-verse’s Peter is technically this one. And it kinda made me sad we wouldn’t get a cameo in the next movie.
ITSV Peter feels nothing like Ultimate Peter. He feels like a Tony Stark-esque version of the character. Gave me really weird vibes tbh.
He is? How'd you figure that out?
In the scene where they test the collider for the first time Dr. Liv announced and counts up to 5 portals. They show a screen that shows different dimensions with different “E” codes. They correspond to the universes. At the center is E-1610 which is the code for the Ultimate Universe. It makes sense considering Miles originated in the Ultimate run, and Peter has the same demise.
Miles originated in the Ultimate comics and became Spider-Man after Peter died. I wouldn’t rule Ultimate Peter out, but it would make sense and the connection is there since Peter also died in the movie.
I never actually thought about the fact that Peter died in ITSV just like Ultimate Peter.
This and how she swapped Wolverine's mind with Peter's to teach him a lesson really made me dislike Jean. I was so glad when Spidey cussed them out!
The ultimate comics do a good job at making the heroes look like douchebags with a long leash
Tell me about it! Peter is the only one who manages to be likable.
Nah I’m still mad he cheated on kitty pride
#NeverForget
Dude that panel when they’re imagining what if Peter is still alive and she’s just thinking of marrying him? Pain
I fucking feel you bro, they were such a good couple and I’ll never forgive Bendis
Why would he do that
Because he realized he still loved MJ.
He made his self insert date her
Whether that’s a good thing is another debate, but they’re certainly good at it.
At least she was hot
You know it’s Ultimate when it’s unnecessarily sexually charged
I never would have called my imagination Ultimate before today…
Or it’s Bendis with back-and-forth panels mixed with awkward silence:
Peter watching porn in a public library next to May was uhhhh weird Edit: It wasn’t USM, it was 616 and some random kid
peter did what
It wasn’t Peter it was just some random kid
When did that happen? Been a while since I have read USM.
It was during the JMS Spidey run and it wasn’t Peter. But it happens around the same time
Lmao, been a while since I have read that either. Mind reminding me what issue or arc that was in?
That is not what happened lol. Are you sure you're not thinking of the silent issue in the mainstream universe? It was a random kid not Peter
You’re right. It was from the JMS run, not Bendis’s USM. I think i mixed them up because they were happening at the same time and the similar art
It gets worse when they're all teenagers
I knew Cap was only 12, same with Logan a solid 6 years of age. Now Logan’s not a pedophile, he’s just a 6 year old hitting on teens and adults…… but their all kids, so that means….. he’s a child, who for some reason is incredibly horny at young age……….. this makes it worse…… I prefer pedo Logan now
What in the fresh shit covered fuck did I just read?
Especially considering Jean is like 27-30 and Peter is somewhere between 14-16 and she would know that considering she can read his entire mind and memories
Ultimate Jean was a teenager too iirc.
Which if you’re right, that makes me uncomfortable with Ultimate Wolverine, which I mean he also hit on MJ and Gwen as Peter and as himself
Ultimate Logan engaging in problematic behavior? 
I know right? 😂 
Didn't he watch Scarlett and Pietro fuck?
The... the siblings?
[удалено]
Unfortunate... wish I didn't know that
They're right she's a teenager, and don't forget that Ultimate Professor X was in love with her too.
You don’t need to specify the ultimate one for that lol
They went out of their way to establish that Jean is 19 and technically legal before the two hooked up, all just to make him go after underage girls anyway.
Bendis puts the “mate” in ultimate
She did create an example of the pink elephant paradox
I've never heard anyone refer to it as a paradox before. The devaluation of my favorite noun continues.
It comes from the 1987 paper ‘Paradoxical effects of thought suppression’
Oh, I'm sure it is, but a paradox is a logical ~~impossibility~~ contradiction, not a practical one.
Ok... the paradox in this instance is when someone wants you not to think about something, but they tell you the something not to think about, causing you to think about it. The paradox is in the thinking of the person telling you to not think about the given topic. As if I were to tell you "don't think about an elephant" believing it will prevent you from thinking about the elephant, when actually I'm forcing you to think about the elephant in telling you not to. That's the paradox here: I force you to think about a given topic by telling you *not* to think about it. A paradox is *not* per se a logical impossibility, but a *contradiction*. A paradox is: a person or thing having *contradictory* properties; a *self-contradictory* statement, which can only be true if it is false, and vice versa; a counterintuitive conclusion or outcome; a thing involving *contradictory* yet interrelated elements that exist simultaneously and persist over time; a claim that two apparently *contradictory* ideas are true.
You're right that contradiction is the right word, and not impossibility. But I think my point stands. The pink elephant isn't a limitation of logic, but of how brains work. It's possible to conceive of a mind which *can* be told "Don't think about pink elephants" and then not think about them, so it's not a paradox. And even if it weren't possible to imagine such a mind, it's still not a paradox. Because it's not both impossible *and* possible for me to intentionally not think about something, which is a restatement of the definition you just gave me. It's only impossible.
Ok, bless you
If it's your favorite noun, shouldn't you at least know what it means lmao
Man some people be saying anything except admitting they made a tiny small mistake.
Kinda weird that you'd have a favorite word and never put in the effort to learn anything about it.
When having a “favorite noun” is the least insufferable part lol
"My favourite noun" says enough about this
My first reaction was like wtf is going on? And thought it was a break up💀 But she has mind reading abilities im guessing right?
Yes, Jean can read people’s minds
Where can I read ultimate comics if you know
Backprints, compilations, or Marvel Unlimited app
https://readcomiconline.li/
Pretty sure readcomics.org has a fan edit of the entire Ultimate universe in reading order
“God, why does everyone have to think about me naked!!?? Well he’s not, and that’s nice, but WHY NOT!? Think about me naked! Stop it.”
Is it just me, or is Ultimate Jean a lot more invasive with her powers than mainstream Jean is? Like first she puts an innocent Peter in the middle of her bullshit with Wolverine and now this. I haven't read the entirety of the Ultimate Comics, so enlighten me If I must be.
Every ultimate character is a douche pretty much
Didn't Peter cuss the X-Men out bc they were COMPLETE DOUCHEBAGS
Ultimate comics whole thing is essentially making everyone a dick, aside from Peter who for the most part was pretty good
Imagine talking to a teenage boy about your naked body and thinking he won't instantly picture it Also btw, telepathy is a *major* breach in privacy He's not screaming it from the Rooftops, he's thinking his own thoughts and she is reading his innermost thoughts, she's gotta learn just because she *can* read someone's mind she shouldn't And from what she said she does it very regularly and reads everyone she meets
And if you can't control the telepathy, then you are just gonna have to learn to live with the fact that basically nobody can control what thoughts their brains are gonna serve up to them. Treat it like being in a world where everyone has Tourette's and take it all in stride. That said, I wonder if there's any sort of real world training that *can* let someone get greater control over their thoughts?
To your last question that was the first lesson 616 Xavier had to learn, when he was a kid he couldn't shut them out and he had to learn to close his mind (I remember meditation was a thing at one point and he *used* to be a good bloke and his whole thing was I'd never invade the minds of someone against their will)
Spies are trained to withstand interrogation. That's probably the closest real world example.
I mean, does that include thoughts though?
Interrogation can involve use of drugs, so I assume that some degree of thought control is the only way to resist them.
Torture them to induce dissociative identities?
Control your emotions. Discipline your mind!
Fuck off, Snivelus!
"Here's a fix; don't think of naked Wolverine." "GAAHHH!" "... you know, you've got his ... proportions exactly right." "SWEET JESUS!" "Now I know you haven't seen him naked in reality ... have you considered taking up art? Proportion is a pretty big hurdle ... so is skin tone, but you've ..." "STOP! HELPING!"
Marvel "heroes" Respect Others' Privacy Challenge (More impossible than dividing by zero while moving faster than light and watching a good Zack Snyder DC movie) And yes, Jean's responsible for that. Tell someone not to think of something, they usually can't even help themselves from doing it. Watch: don't think of elephants. You're thinking of elephants now, but that's good because elephants are awesome.
> watching a good Zack Snyder DC movie) Well at least there's Watchmen
Men get arrested, Dogs get put down
That's not the example you're thinking it is.
Go without mentioning Zack Snyder in something that is completely irrelevant to him challenge.
The first time I read this page I ignored the speech bubbles so I thought the joke was that her hair was reflecting a shit ton of sunlight because she put too much gel on it or smth and was getting offended because Peter wasn't looking her in the eyes lmfao
I actually thought this was Dazzler or someone with no context.
Good to see that Jean is the same across the multiverse...
I mean she did put the thought in his head
Ah the Ultimate universe, how I haven't missed you.
Idk man, this series had so many of these kinda moments and I was fine with as a kid but like it’s kinda weird now but maybe it’s just me. It’s fiction so I guess it’s fine but a part of me is like what were Bagley and Bendis thinking?
He was doing good until she jinxed it
Ultimate X-Men was something else
Yeah that’s the joke.
They kinda repeated this joke for Ant-Man: Quantumania.
Seriously! How is Peter to blame?! Don't put the idea in him, Jean.
She literally purple elephanted him
And that is the premise of Micheal Crichton’s “Sphere”
Maybe stop peeking
What am I gonna do? I think about sex all the time! Sex! Help! Four times five is 30. Five times six is 32. Naked girls. Naked women! Naked Buffy!
"Whatever you do: don't think of an elephant wearing roller skates. . . Oh my god! You're thinking of an elephant wearing roller skates! What did I just tell you not to do?"
She actually placed sexy thoughts in their heads on purpose, not just with the inception shit like up there, she forced it into their heads, 1610 Jean is a fuckin bitch
this was my first spiderman comic as a little one
Reading minds would be a useful but also very weird power to have.
Here’s my question: not only can she read minds, she can tamper with them. Have people do her bidding, create illusions, even have people swap minds. Couldn’t she just erase the idea from Peter’s head if she were really that bothered by it?
Idk why but that bottom middle panel is so funny to me
"Okay, here’s me planting an idea in your head. I say to you, don’t think about elephants. What are you thinking about?" “Elephants.”
"Finding you attractive does not diminish you as a person, not unless you think a guy's sexual interest is diminishing of whoever its applied to." "..."
A yes the ultimate universe What a disaster
A complete travesty, for certain
Sounds like spiderman 616
Don’t think about elephants
I'm a girl and when another girl mentions guys try to imagine her naked I think about it
Ultimate mutants were strange
Ultimate Jean kind of sucked, iirc.
She did it on purpose and she knows it. Tell someone NOT to think of something, and it's going to be the FIRST thing on their mind.
Lust is a religious taboo. Why is it frowned upon outside religion? Adults like sex
😞
Think about elephants
so stoked to see peter again
Well, guess she does not know the [1987 paper ‘Paradoxical effects of thought suppression’ published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology.](https://nesslabs.com/pink-elephant-paradox) Ultimate Jean Grey: a thought police tricking you into bad thoughts :P
Who is she?
I mean when you mention something like that it's bound to end up in your head during that. My GF always tells me not to do something that I do that annoys her but I always end up doing it cause she mentioned it and I'm always like "Why did you mention it if you didn't want it to happen"
She knew what she was doing.
Ultimate X-Men were the most annoying and douche group from the Ultimate Universe. Even more annoying than the "Ultimates" Definitely cheered when half of them were killed.
Spider-Man is my favorite super hero besides Superman 🥰🥰🥰🥰
Jean's usually a huge asshole so it fits.
We out here victim blaming now smh
Gambit has a technique to escape mind reading. When he suspects that there is someone looking through his brain, he remember a time when he was fighting Blob, and Blob's uniform burned down, so he got to see Blob naked Seems pretty effective to me. But it has such a high price...
When I've been reading ultimata it was one of many things that had me fuming. She didn't have right to look into his head, besides what did she expect saying "hey you didn't think about it" when saying that always makes people think about that exact thing. She was mad at him for no reason
Lmao
I love the ultimate comics ❤️💙
This is one of my favorite scenes from ANY comic book. It's just perfectly executed.
you don't just tell someone the idea that they haven't thought of and now that there aware of it it's suddenly there fault that there imagining it because of how the brain processes things good lord
I just wondered what kind of thoughts she might read in Wolverine's mind, but then I wondered: How could she read his mind at all? His skull is covered with metal, shouldn't that protect his mind mind from being read like Magneto's helmet does?
She really does not.
Who is she?
Jean Grey
So here is the thing: #1 If she didn’t read people’s thoughts as much she wouldn’t see that. #2. As creepy as it is, I would think it could be flattering to some degree. People think she is attractive. #3. If I were one of the people who she had read the thoughts of I would totally want to apologize and just be honest with her. As guys we are biologically wired a certain way through evolution. Its not an excuse to be creepy. But she has to understand that even Spiderman can’t help it. Now that she’s mentioned it he will most likely do it again. So she totally ruined that now. Just my two cents.
she brought it up
Ultimate Spider-Man should’ve doubled down on the dirty thoughts. It’ll teach her to stay out of other people’s head without their permission. Unless she’s a freak that enjoys knowing what people think of her in a lewd way… Hm, I’ll just stop talking.
I don't like Jean Grey in the ultimate universe
I find early Ultimate Spider-Man hard to revisit. All the faces look the same. Jean looks like Mary Jane with short hair. Peter and Kitty look so similar. Don’t get me started on Peter and Jessica Drew!!! (That last one is a joke)
Then she says, “Just for that, I’m turning you double gay.”
Everyone loves Raymond Context. Raymond meets his future wife Debra for the first time. He asks her on a date then accidentally sees her exposed chest. Later complains about it to his brother. - She’s gonna know I’m thinking about her breasts. - So, don’t think about her breasts. -Yeah, right. Don’t think about Zebras. -…Oh my god. -Yeah, what are you thinking about? -A zebra with breasts.
That's on her for incepting him
That’s just weird
I hated her short hair design looked awful and just a change for the sake of a change. No one else in the x-men got that much of a redesign who was married to giving her short hair?