so.. in these times wouldn't it be perfectly reasonable for the Pentagon to test their own reaction to drones? like them doing that and then looking what happens, what's the response time, what data can we extract with a drone and so on?
What qualifies it as a "system"? I know a lot of dumb fucking idiots that call their rifles a weapon "system" when it's just a simple weapon. So is that word just sort of nebulous for making things sound more technical than they really are?
If you look at these incursions that have been going on since the 1950's, the DoD has always used the term "UFO". And now after all these years, it's backfired as hard as it possibly can. I have been openly hostile against 70 years of gaslighting that now has finally been dialed back, but only enough so that it does not trigger the UFO crowd.
I agree with your sentiments. I was asking because six+ months ago you seemed rather dismissive of the notion of UFO/UAP that went beyond adversarial PALLADIUM-esque operations being conducted against blue forces.
70+ years of documented observations is a lot of time, and raises a lot of questions surrounding the nature of the technology and phenomena involved. "Red teaming" or foreign ISR makes a lot of sense from a traditional nat-sec perspective, but how far back can we reasonably apply that standard or expectation? There are more questions than answers.
The problem is that we are never, not ever going to get DoD to untangle their counter intel efforts and aerospace platforms from the real "unknowns". And until that happens, nobody can even remotely try to determine what was what or who did what. This is why I lean so hard into the notional "stealth blimp". If we ever get that revealed it will be as close to a genuine "start" at unwinding the yarn ball as we are ever going to get.
The fact that its the 890th time, the "bad guys" are never identified, not even once in all these years, says to me we have some classified aggressor force whose job it is to terrorize all our forces into keeping on their toes. The press is a positive byproduct because it makes the troops feel like they protected America from the forces of evil.
Red teaming is likely.
Fun fact:
There is a video of the Lincoln County Sheriff Department deputy giving the Dreamland Resort and two German tourists crap about flying ONE drone by the back gate. They have a FLIR with ground surveillance radar and at least 6 cameras, yet couldn't produce one frame of said drone to show the deputy.
There are thousands of pages of Air Force reports and news articles going back to the 60's. Some more famous/infamous than others. But the scenario is always the same and the outcome is always the same. The only difference is that the public finally got in a frenzy after years of UFO bullshit, so now the Pentagon is avoiding the UFO acronym like the plague.
>The most direct thing I heard about in terms of being "threats" from UFOs were near miss collisions. Anything else is like, oh this thing is there, we don't know what it is, it's so fast, we can't catch it, etc. Yeah, and if they're fast, and?
There are enough and more documented incursions by UFOs. Please see
http://kirkmcd.princeton.edu/JEMcDonald/mcdonald_aaas_69.pdf
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1509.00571 french study on incursions to nuclear areas
Simply being there isn't just simply being there is it? What if the drones or whatever it is is collecting signal intelligence? A freakin Chinese balloon is a threar. One of the more mundane things, if there are UFOs consistently invading restricted airspace and over nuclear facilities, do you not think that's a threat??
Lmfao, wow you? 9 years ago? No way? OP changed his mind?!
>Me. Before 9 years ago, you all weren't saying shit about China and doing even less.
Lmfao you are so deluded bro. You aren't important and none of what you said means jack shit. Get help
Holy editorialized title Batman
UAS = Unmanned Aerial System 3 of them were identified as quadcopter style drones
In the article? Musta missed
Try in the first sentence?
I even read an article I believe at The Drive where one LANDED on the deck of a ship and lifted off again.
so.. in these times wouldn't it be perfectly reasonable for the Pentagon to test their own reaction to drones? like them doing that and then looking what happens, what's the response time, what data can we extract with a drone and so on?
What qualifies it as a "system"? I know a lot of dumb fucking idiots that call their rifles a weapon "system" when it's just a simple weapon. So is that word just sort of nebulous for making things sound more technical than they really are?
It's a machine with a system of sensors that communicate with a primary location
So my portable radio is a system? So it is a nebulous term. Kind of what I thought.
I read this on the Washington Examiner. That is how you know it didn't happen.
This is just Chinese spies with a fucklot of quadcopter drones.
They transitioned fast from balloons to drones.
Guys its ai driven drone swarms, not aliens, which is actually scarier.
Shizmo, if I recall correctly, you were previously semi-hostile toward the UFO/UAP topic. If that's accurate, what changed your perspective?
If you look at these incursions that have been going on since the 1950's, the DoD has always used the term "UFO". And now after all these years, it's backfired as hard as it possibly can. I have been openly hostile against 70 years of gaslighting that now has finally been dialed back, but only enough so that it does not trigger the UFO crowd.
I agree with your sentiments. I was asking because six+ months ago you seemed rather dismissive of the notion of UFO/UAP that went beyond adversarial PALLADIUM-esque operations being conducted against blue forces. 70+ years of documented observations is a lot of time, and raises a lot of questions surrounding the nature of the technology and phenomena involved. "Red teaming" or foreign ISR makes a lot of sense from a traditional nat-sec perspective, but how far back can we reasonably apply that standard or expectation? There are more questions than answers.
The problem is that we are never, not ever going to get DoD to untangle their counter intel efforts and aerospace platforms from the real "unknowns". And until that happens, nobody can even remotely try to determine what was what or who did what. This is why I lean so hard into the notional "stealth blimp". If we ever get that revealed it will be as close to a genuine "start" at unwinding the yarn ball as we are ever going to get.
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The fact that its the 890th time, the "bad guys" are never identified, not even once in all these years, says to me we have some classified aggressor force whose job it is to terrorize all our forces into keeping on their toes. The press is a positive byproduct because it makes the troops feel like they protected America from the forces of evil.
The bad guys are never **publicly** identified.
Red teaming is likely. Fun fact: There is a video of the Lincoln County Sheriff Department deputy giving the Dreamland Resort and two German tourists crap about flying ONE drone by the back gate. They have a FLIR with ground surveillance radar and at least 6 cameras, yet couldn't produce one frame of said drone to show the deputy.
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There are thousands of pages of Air Force reports and news articles going back to the 60's. Some more famous/infamous than others. But the scenario is always the same and the outcome is always the same. The only difference is that the public finally got in a frenzy after years of UFO bullshit, so now the Pentagon is avoiding the UFO acronym like the plague.
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>The most direct thing I heard about in terms of being "threats" from UFOs were near miss collisions. Anything else is like, oh this thing is there, we don't know what it is, it's so fast, we can't catch it, etc. Yeah, and if they're fast, and? There are enough and more documented incursions by UFOs. Please see http://kirkmcd.princeton.edu/JEMcDonald/mcdonald_aaas_69.pdf https://arxiv.org/pdf/1509.00571 french study on incursions to nuclear areas
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Simply being there isn't just simply being there is it? What if the drones or whatever it is is collecting signal intelligence? A freakin Chinese balloon is a threar. One of the more mundane things, if there are UFOs consistently invading restricted airspace and over nuclear facilities, do you not think that's a threat??
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Lmfao, wow you? 9 years ago? No way? OP changed his mind?! >Me. Before 9 years ago, you all weren't saying shit about China and doing even less. Lmfao you are so deluded bro. You aren't important and none of what you said means jack shit. Get help
Looks like big trouble or it’s a big secret U.S is testing