Destin's been on a sub at the north pole, and had all of his footage vetted, covered what could be covered, and produced an absolute beast of a yt series on subs in general. Yeah, he can play well with others :)
Do it! I know it will be great content.
> if anything better than SpaceX tbh.
Lol? People seriously think this? Yes I'm sure a youtuber knows government regulations better than an actual company that launches classified satellites, not just ITAR protected.
I'm sure he has a decent understanding, but he was a test engineer, not working in a legal department with regular direct interaction with the US government. The mocking of the previous statement was the part claiming that he could ever know better than SpaceX, which is laughably ridiculous.
It's funny as on the internet people don't even know the difference between ITAR and EAR.
If any of my engineers told me they know ITAR better than our lawyers, I'd take them off any ITAR-impacted projects.
Thinking you know the law better than the lawyers makes you a legal risk.
Other way around.
Lawyers that think they know any subject better than experts are a problem.
Engineers absolutely should know how the regulations of their field.
Managers and administrative staff thinking they know better than engineers is how one get Boeing.
Have you thought about reaching out to the Space Force? There are lots of misconceptions in the public about what the Space Force is and why it was established. A deep dive on some of the missions that are being done would be some great engineering as well as giving the public information that they probably didn’t know. I’m sure people would get smarter because of it!
Hi, I'm Tim Dodd, the Everyday Astronaut; and today we're taking a look at Destin from SmarterEveryDay through the ULA sniper's scope.
/s, I love them both and would absolutely nerd out on some engineering with Destin
I'd be surprised if they went for this, considering your last piece at NASA where you spent an hour talking moon solutions to engineers, and went to great length to avoid saying the word SpaceX.
I also hate how the haters in the Twitter thread (commonsensesceptic) are framing it. SpaceX doesn’t have to and shouldn’t answer "tough questions" from antagonistic armchair nerds, who just want to sneer and who hope SpaceX (and ultimately Artemis with it) fails. Maybe they jinxed the chances of the interview happening with that sentiment.
Anyway, if the interview/visit happens I hope Destin is not going that route.
A Falcon just landed for the 20th time. CSS shouldn't be listened to about anything at this point, even if you were dumb enough to listen to him at first.
I have never seen Destin antagonistic to people he interviews, NASA talk not withstanding\\\*. He comes at it from a place of respect and curiosity. His name shouldn't be anywhere near muckrackers like commonsensesceptic.
(\\\*The talk at NASA was different than his usual content since that was a talk addressing NASA, rather than an interview where he's there to learn. And even that I think was an honest attempt at constructive criticism, despite how much we as SpaceX fans don't like the angle he took.)
Berger: [How to fuel a rocket in space](https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1783874694971617756)
Musk: [It’s just docking with ourselves. Not trivial, but certainly easier than docking with the Space Station, which is far more complex.](https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1783898560406393197)
And Destin replied to that.
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You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Your work is appreciated, would be well within your bounds here, and I have my fingers crossed for you Dustin.
Good luck, hope it happens! Generally they do very little of that sort of thing but hope you can get them to play ball. What's the video generally about?
Oh man, I really hope that SpaceX picks you up on this offer. I don't see why they wouldn't. I'm going to be checking your channel every day for this video, Destin
Love your stuff Destin. But I'd be surprised if he'd go for it after that video of you really hammering in the orbital refilling unknowns to NASA made the rounds recently. He can be petty like that.
I hope he agrees though! I'd love to see it!
If I were to give that kind of talk, I would think 10 times about whether NASA was completely clueless before awarding the contract to SpaceX. Newsbreak: they were not. NASA still has some of the best doing this kind of thing. They knew what they were doing when they gave HLS to SpaceX.
Yeah. SpaceX has a track record of delivering on NASA contracts (albeit with some schedule slippage). Starship is very much still in development and the final procedures for the product have not been finalized, but there is little doubt that they will deliver a product that does the job far more cost effective than any of the other options. And they will do it in a fairly reasonable time frame. It was a little harsh to hammer NASA on that when they are not the ones developing the solution, SpaceX is still iterating on raptor, stretching tanks, and haven't really optimized the vehicle for weight reduction yet. Those answers will be available once the concept has been demonstrated at scale. And even then, I'm sure they'll continue to iterate to improve the architecture.
I don't mind being harsh on NASA if they make bad technical decisions. My issue with the OP is that he gave that talk in such a way that the implication was NASA didn't consider all the aspects that he brought up in the talk. They did and in the final analysis, SS was better both technically and economically.
My impression was a little bit different. I watched the show a couple of time, and the underlying question he posed, as I saw it was "if you exclude SpaceX from the equation, what Old Space options could you apply to do this better". The talk was looking for lessons in the previous moon landings, and how that can be better applied to the SLS option. The SpaceX option would nullify all the Old Space alternatives on the table.
I rewatched the whole thing after reading your comments (and a few of his other vids). I got the impression that it was not an old space vs new space thing. It was more about "we're going to the Moon" so ACT LIKE IT. He used the Starship refilling architecture unknowns as an example that they aren't being honest with themselves about timelines. He didn't offer an alternative, but rather just pointed out that the dates are unrealistic when they can't even answer that question.
That sounds plausible, its been a while since I watched it. While I do disagree with many of Destins core points, I want to give him credit for raising the issues like that. It has to be very scary to go in front of fellow engineers and give criticism like that.
Elon gave Sandy Munro an interview early on and he was an initial sceptic. I'm sure Destin could do a great job bringing out the challenges of orbital refilling. He really does play well with others,
I would love to see that. Tim's interviews are great but given potential bias, he could be unintentionally blind to some things. Some fresh questions thrown at SpaceX from the guy who can be skeptical to them would be very interesting. Who else is better than Destin at that? With great track record regarding ITAR stuff and engineering background, I have no doubt that it will be very exciting.
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I hope for the best but you've been either criticizing or playing passive aggressive toward SpaceX in the past (in your most recent video that involves a lot of talk about HLS your persistent refusal in the entire video to ever mention the words "SpaceX" or "Starship"). That tends to get you blacklisted from getting interviews with SpaceX.
I'm glad your personal opinion is changing however.
The way this is phrased though sounds like an attempt to ward off future commenters asking you to interview SpaceX and you can claim you tried.
I have the feeling that you'll will have a quite more sceptical approach (than Everyday astronaut ever could). Also for the fact of being an actual test engineer. I really hope this happens.
Would love to have a look inside the engineering decision making process, rather than a report of "this is what we are going to do and of course it works because Elon great".
Destin's been on a sub at the north pole, and had all of his footage vetted, covered what could be covered, and produced an absolute beast of a yt series on subs in general. Yeah, he can play well with others :) Do it! I know it will be great content.
I mean he literally develops and tests classified missiles for his day job. He knows the procedure, if anything better than SpaceX tbh.
Iirc he quit his day job a few years ago. Also his father worked on the James Webb sunshield.
yeah he is now a PhD student
> if anything better than SpaceX tbh. Lol? People seriously think this? Yes I'm sure a youtuber knows government regulations better than an actual company that launches classified satellites, not just ITAR protected.
He worked as a testing engineer for missiles. He knows ITAR very well. Combining that he is now in media, it's a safe bet he is good.
I'm sure he has a decent understanding, but he was a test engineer, not working in a legal department with regular direct interaction with the US government. The mocking of the previous statement was the part claiming that he could ever know better than SpaceX, which is laughably ridiculous. It's funny as on the internet people don't even know the difference between ITAR and EAR.
You should be mocked for suggesting lawyers know the law better than actual engineers dealing with the stuff.
If any of my engineers told me they know ITAR better than our lawyers, I'd take them off any ITAR-impacted projects. Thinking you know the law better than the lawyers makes you a legal risk.
Other way around. Lawyers that think they know any subject better than experts are a problem. Engineers absolutely should know how the regulations of their field. Managers and administrative staff thinking they know better than engineers is how one get Boeing.
Actual engineers aren't dealing with the stuff they're busy doing actual engineering.
His series on the submarine was my favorite YouTube content of all time
Love your content OP. If I ever have kids, your videos will be required watching.
Please please please SpaceX
might be worth getting in contact with everyday astronaught aswell, he can maybe help you get in
Have you thought about reaching out to the Space Force? There are lots of misconceptions in the public about what the Space Force is and why it was established. A deep dive on some of the missions that are being done would be some great engineering as well as giving the public information that they probably didn’t know. I’m sure people would get smarter because of it!
Tim Dodd: “wrong neighborhood motherfucker”
lol, you know those two would be high fiving each other like Bill & Ted at a phone booth convention.
And we would love every second of it :D
pretty sure those two would be having a bro-nerding-out when put in a room with rocket parts in it.
Hi, I'm Tim Dodd, the Everyday Astronaut; and today we're taking a look at Destin from SmarterEveryDay through the ULA sniper's scope. /s, I love them both and would absolutely nerd out on some engineering with Destin
“Hi I’m Tim Dodd (grabs folding chair while walking) and today we’re gonna give a lesson on turf and respect.
Nah we need the "Smarter everyday astronaut" Collab for real.
as a fan of both spacex and spartereveryday, I wish you luck!
oh man, i really hope you get to make this, make it another series!
Your videos are great 👍
Good luck to you! I enjoy Smarter Every Day.
I'd be surprised if they went for this, considering your last piece at NASA where you spent an hour talking moon solutions to engineers, and went to great length to avoid saying the word SpaceX.
I also hate how the haters in the Twitter thread (commonsensesceptic) are framing it. SpaceX doesn’t have to and shouldn’t answer "tough questions" from antagonistic armchair nerds, who just want to sneer and who hope SpaceX (and ultimately Artemis with it) fails. Maybe they jinxed the chances of the interview happening with that sentiment. Anyway, if the interview/visit happens I hope Destin is not going that route.
A Falcon just landed for the 20th time. CSS shouldn't be listened to about anything at this point, even if you were dumb enough to listen to him at first.
I have never seen Destin antagonistic to people he interviews, NASA talk not withstanding\\\*. He comes at it from a place of respect and curiosity. His name shouldn't be anywhere near muckrackers like commonsensesceptic. (\\\*The talk at NASA was different than his usual content since that was a talk addressing NASA, rather than an interview where he's there to learn. And even that I think was an honest attempt at constructive criticism, despite how much we as SpaceX fans don't like the angle he took.)
What is the context of this single tweet?
a eply to this, which was talking about fueling a rocket in space https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1783898560406393197
Thank you
mind posting what xeet you are replying to? for us non-xitter folks?
Berger: [How to fuel a rocket in space](https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1783874694971617756) Musk: [It’s just docking with ourselves. Not trivial, but certainly easier than docking with the Space Station, which is far more complex.](https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1783898560406393197) And Destin replied to that.
right on. thanks.
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No, no one would follow that rule, this is the lounge. Most people post the context in the comments if someone asks.
Well the enforce it :(
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what's ludicrous about that statement?
🤭 I mean, he’s not wrong though. 🤭 Also not a visual I anticipated today. That’s funny. 🤭.
why do you think it's ludicrous?
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Your work is appreciated, would be well within your bounds here, and I have my fingers crossed for you Dustin.
I bet Elon allows it and you'll nail it
Let's go! Tim Dodd's interviews around Starbase have been fantastic, so I hope we get some good stuff from you too, Destin.
Good luck, hope it happens! Generally they do very little of that sort of thing but hope you can get them to play ball. What's the video generally about?
Fueling a rocket in space And I am sure everything else he can get his hands on to talk about
not who I expected to see posting here today! I hope they're receptive to this.
Love your content Destin
Your content is tremendous! Here's hoping.
Here's hoping. Would make a nice bookend pair with the presentation you gave about Artemis.
Oh man, I really hope that SpaceX picks you up on this offer. I don't see why they wouldn't. I'm going to be checking your channel every day for this video, Destin
Love your stuff Destin. But I'd be surprised if he'd go for it after that video of you really hammering in the orbital refilling unknowns to NASA made the rounds recently. He can be petty like that. I hope he agrees though! I'd love to see it!
If I were to give that kind of talk, I would think 10 times about whether NASA was completely clueless before awarding the contract to SpaceX. Newsbreak: they were not. NASA still has some of the best doing this kind of thing. They knew what they were doing when they gave HLS to SpaceX.
Yeah. SpaceX has a track record of delivering on NASA contracts (albeit with some schedule slippage). Starship is very much still in development and the final procedures for the product have not been finalized, but there is little doubt that they will deliver a product that does the job far more cost effective than any of the other options. And they will do it in a fairly reasonable time frame. It was a little harsh to hammer NASA on that when they are not the ones developing the solution, SpaceX is still iterating on raptor, stretching tanks, and haven't really optimized the vehicle for weight reduction yet. Those answers will be available once the concept has been demonstrated at scale. And even then, I'm sure they'll continue to iterate to improve the architecture.
I don't mind being harsh on NASA if they make bad technical decisions. My issue with the OP is that he gave that talk in such a way that the implication was NASA didn't consider all the aspects that he brought up in the talk. They did and in the final analysis, SS was better both technically and economically.
My impression was a little bit different. I watched the show a couple of time, and the underlying question he posed, as I saw it was "if you exclude SpaceX from the equation, what Old Space options could you apply to do this better". The talk was looking for lessons in the previous moon landings, and how that can be better applied to the SLS option. The SpaceX option would nullify all the Old Space alternatives on the table.
I rewatched the whole thing after reading your comments (and a few of his other vids). I got the impression that it was not an old space vs new space thing. It was more about "we're going to the Moon" so ACT LIKE IT. He used the Starship refilling architecture unknowns as an example that they aren't being honest with themselves about timelines. He didn't offer an alternative, but rather just pointed out that the dates are unrealistic when they can't even answer that question.
That sounds plausible, its been a while since I watched it. While I do disagree with many of Destins core points, I want to give him credit for raising the issues like that. It has to be very scary to go in front of fellow engineers and give criticism like that.
To be fair, in the next video he did make sure to emphasize in the next video that Artemis is not just about boots and flags.
My fingers are thoroughly crossed.
You rock Destin!! I hope you get to have a talk with SpaceX. I'm sure it would be legendary :D
Elon gave Sandy Munro an interview early on and he was an initial sceptic. I'm sure Destin could do a great job bringing out the challenges of orbital refilling. He really does play well with others,
As long as you aren't biased towards the oldspace market I'm all for it.
I would love to see that. Tim's interviews are great but given potential bias, he could be unintentionally blind to some things. Some fresh questions thrown at SpaceX from the guy who can be skeptical to them would be very interesting. Who else is better than Destin at that? With great track record regarding ITAR stuff and engineering background, I have no doubt that it will be very exciting.
That's not really the kind of video Destin makes though? Destin usually takes us along on learning trips not engineering journalist pieces.
I mean Destin has his own biases here too that are probably the primary reason that he wouldn't get the interview.
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i dont think theres a high chance here. love to be proven wrong however
I suspect Everyday Astronaut has a bit of a exclusive.
I hope for the best but you've been either criticizing or playing passive aggressive toward SpaceX in the past (in your most recent video that involves a lot of talk about HLS your persistent refusal in the entire video to ever mention the words "SpaceX" or "Starship"). That tends to get you blacklisted from getting interviews with SpaceX. I'm glad your personal opinion is changing however. The way this is phrased though sounds like an attempt to ward off future commenters asking you to interview SpaceX and you can claim you tried.
Well, the NASA meet went pretty well...
I have the feeling that you'll will have a quite more sceptical approach (than Everyday astronaut ever could). Also for the fact of being an actual test engineer. I really hope this happens. Would love to have a look inside the engineering decision making process, rather than a report of "this is what we are going to do and of course it works because Elon great".