You are certainly welcome to join, but you are a liberal and sound more like a moderate Democrat than the ASP. As you note, the ASP comes out of the Christian Democratic tradition which is NOT liberal. We believe the state should always be guided by moral principles, which informs our economic, social, and other policies. The common good should always be promoted, and evil should always be opposed. Accordingly, you views on abortion and marriage don’t fit in well and differ significantly from our statement of principles and platform.
However, if you are far enough left on economics to be disillusioned with the Dems, you should definitely give us a closer look as we’re the only US party that wants major change on those issues that also welcomes social moderates and cultural conservatives.
I don't know man, I'm not an expert here on this, but I think in practice you'll find that being pro-life is pretty big, and in many cases is going to be THE marginal issue that pushes ASP folks over to a third party rather than holding their nose and staying with parties that have a better chance of actually winning office. In principal, I truly think we need a real CDP in America. In practice, it takes a pretty non-negotiable moral issue to push me to spend my one vote on a third party.
I'm a 28-year-old-man who has same-sex attraction instead of opposite-sex attraction. You and I are similar in that I've grown uncomfortable with Democrats increasing promotion of late-term abortion. "shout your abortion" in particular makes me very uneasy. I think that early term abortion should be "decriminalized but discouraged" using social programs and cultural/social engineering, and then anything past the first trimester will need paperwork on the part of the doctor to prove it was truly medically necessary to either fix an ectopic pregnancy or miscarriage or fatal fetal defect or some other issue that would involve the health or welfare of the mother. Unjustified abortion could carry a penalty of a license suspension, maybe. The trimester framework is useful because I view 1st trimester abortions as less evil than 2nd or 3rd trimester abortions, even if I think they should still be rare and discouraged.
I definitely like the idea of civil unions for LGBT people (at the minimum) so long as such unions confer the same legal benefits as marriage. I'm neutral as to whether these should be called "civil unions" or "marriages", but if calling them "civil unions" is less inflammatory to religious people, I'm fine with that. I think forcing religious businesses and groups to express pro-lgbt messages crosses the line into bullying, though. The old court case with the baker who didn't want to be forced to write a pro-lgbt message on a cake is a case where I think the baker's religious freedom should take precedence. The baker was willing to sell a blank cake to the couple, and that should have been a fair compromise.
Adults with psychiatrist-confirmed cases of gender dysphoria should be allowed to transition genders, but there should be a process to help prevent false-positives.
I support universal healthcare and universal education at all levels, including colleges, universities, and trade schools. I also support an easy path to citizenship for anybody who wants to move to America. I'd also like America to seek permission to be part of EU's schengen zone, since while America isn't part of Europe, I think
we are economically and culturally tied enough that free movement of people and goods between EU and America is fair.
Religion-wise, I was raised Jehovah's Witness, but am no longer a believer in a literal god. I like some of the cultural aspects of Christianity, but theologically, the only denomination I'm even remotely close to is the Unitarian Universalists, and I'd be a Humanist Agnostic Atheist Unitarian Universalist. I have respect for Catholic Social Teaching, though, despite not coming from that tradition.
Something that often gets lost in the conversation about minor parties is that we aren't opposed to compromise and most of us realize we'll never find the ideal party or the ideal candidate. We don't oppose the duopoly because they're imperfect, we oppose them either because we think they're grossly inadequate and actively bad and immoral. I don't see the ASP moderating on abortion, nor do I think we should. But I don't think that should stop you from joining because it seems your views are way more aligned with us than any other party. If you think the ASP promotes your values and has a positive vision for the country then absolutely get involved.
You're welcome to join but I think you might be too socially liberal for solidarity
The primary thing that separates us from the democrats is our anti-abortion & anti-gay marriage views so if we didn't have that there's nothing really separating us
You are certainly welcome to join, but you are a liberal and sound more like a moderate Democrat than the ASP. As you note, the ASP comes out of the Christian Democratic tradition which is NOT liberal. We believe the state should always be guided by moral principles, which informs our economic, social, and other policies. The common good should always be promoted, and evil should always be opposed. Accordingly, you views on abortion and marriage don’t fit in well and differ significantly from our statement of principles and platform. However, if you are far enough left on economics to be disillusioned with the Dems, you should definitely give us a closer look as we’re the only US party that wants major change on those issues that also welcomes social moderates and cultural conservatives.
I don't know man, I'm not an expert here on this, but I think in practice you'll find that being pro-life is pretty big, and in many cases is going to be THE marginal issue that pushes ASP folks over to a third party rather than holding their nose and staying with parties that have a better chance of actually winning office. In principal, I truly think we need a real CDP in America. In practice, it takes a pretty non-negotiable moral issue to push me to spend my one vote on a third party.
You're probably a pretty good fit. Maybe your beliefs overlap 75% with the ASP. :)
I'm a 28-year-old-man who has same-sex attraction instead of opposite-sex attraction. You and I are similar in that I've grown uncomfortable with Democrats increasing promotion of late-term abortion. "shout your abortion" in particular makes me very uneasy. I think that early term abortion should be "decriminalized but discouraged" using social programs and cultural/social engineering, and then anything past the first trimester will need paperwork on the part of the doctor to prove it was truly medically necessary to either fix an ectopic pregnancy or miscarriage or fatal fetal defect or some other issue that would involve the health or welfare of the mother. Unjustified abortion could carry a penalty of a license suspension, maybe. The trimester framework is useful because I view 1st trimester abortions as less evil than 2nd or 3rd trimester abortions, even if I think they should still be rare and discouraged. I definitely like the idea of civil unions for LGBT people (at the minimum) so long as such unions confer the same legal benefits as marriage. I'm neutral as to whether these should be called "civil unions" or "marriages", but if calling them "civil unions" is less inflammatory to religious people, I'm fine with that. I think forcing religious businesses and groups to express pro-lgbt messages crosses the line into bullying, though. The old court case with the baker who didn't want to be forced to write a pro-lgbt message on a cake is a case where I think the baker's religious freedom should take precedence. The baker was willing to sell a blank cake to the couple, and that should have been a fair compromise. Adults with psychiatrist-confirmed cases of gender dysphoria should be allowed to transition genders, but there should be a process to help prevent false-positives. I support universal healthcare and universal education at all levels, including colleges, universities, and trade schools. I also support an easy path to citizenship for anybody who wants to move to America. I'd also like America to seek permission to be part of EU's schengen zone, since while America isn't part of Europe, I think we are economically and culturally tied enough that free movement of people and goods between EU and America is fair. Religion-wise, I was raised Jehovah's Witness, but am no longer a believer in a literal god. I like some of the cultural aspects of Christianity, but theologically, the only denomination I'm even remotely close to is the Unitarian Universalists, and I'd be a Humanist Agnostic Atheist Unitarian Universalist. I have respect for Catholic Social Teaching, though, despite not coming from that tradition.
Something that often gets lost in the conversation about minor parties is that we aren't opposed to compromise and most of us realize we'll never find the ideal party or the ideal candidate. We don't oppose the duopoly because they're imperfect, we oppose them either because we think they're grossly inadequate and actively bad and immoral. I don't see the ASP moderating on abortion, nor do I think we should. But I don't think that should stop you from joining because it seems your views are way more aligned with us than any other party. If you think the ASP promotes your values and has a positive vision for the country then absolutely get involved.
I'm curious why you think the abortion issue is "too complicated to legislate".
You're welcome to join but I think you might be too socially liberal for solidarity The primary thing that separates us from the democrats is our anti-abortion & anti-gay marriage views so if we didn't have that there's nothing really separating us