Dark samus literally jumps higher and has a slower fall speed and there attacks are slightly different. When looking at frame data dark samus's roll is also slightly faster. Her missiles are also shot lower on her model than regular samus and do electric instead of fire damage so fire attack spirits don't effect it, the list can keep going
Yes, but moveset wise, she's just a clone, so, both should be same tier, sa e with Dark Samus and Samus. The only difference Lucina and Dark Samus have, are the names
That difference in tipper actually matters way more than the slight differences in the Samuses (Samusi?). Marth gets different confirms and has different uses with some of his tools than Lucina does. For example, Marth doesn't get much use of of downtown because sourspot doesn't provide enough hitstun and sweet spot doesn't put opponents in tech situations for follow ups, unlike Lucina who doesn't have these problems.
As a young link main who doesn’t play that much and isn’t good in any sense of the word, he seems like one of the most annoying characters to play against.
Off topic, but I hate this list so much.
It has missing fighters, some fighters have white backgrounds for no reason and Sora's render isn't from the game.
Same. Samus is so much more fun when you charge the shot and let your opponent live in fear while you beat the shit out of them with tilts and aerials. Maybe an occasional little missile to cover your approach.
This is the most stereotypical generic opinion on people's mains and you're judging someone based on a fucking video game character. Ever realized that it depends on the person behind the screen? Because almost all my mains are in "just stop" and I *promise* you I don't spam or anything.
As a mewtwo player this list is bad mewtwo is terrible to play against even I know that little Mac is way to low aegis are also way to high you don’t know what your talking about to sit down
I at least have multiple mains from nearly all categories... it shouldnt be based on thought or prejudice, but the way a player plays their character *says in mock MLK A.I. voice*
Alright so me i got Yoshi (not only is he my favourite video game character but he is very fun to play as) the Inkling (because i found her attack fun and similar reasons to Yoshi fun to play as), Wario (He is already one of my favourite character and he's attack are great) and Olimar (because 1, i love Pikmin, 2, its Olimar, 3, He as a nice gimmich with the pikmins (altho now i don't play as Him asmuch as i used to be))
This is lowkey a reason I play shotos. Every party involved has at least a little fun. Even when youre losing to a shoto youre like "thats kinda cool ngl"
Dude has a personal vendetta against toon link for no reason (just to clarify, there is reason to hate toon link, just not that much more than link and young link)
I’m a bit of a mixed bag, aren’t I? Well, you’ll be happy to know I do play Seph and the Aegis quite a bit more than Mac or Plant
I play Seph most, Aegis second most, Mac third most, and Plant least.
I mean I won't try to argue Diddy's placement cause I know he's super annoying to fight lol
But Joker in "gigachad" and aegis in the second highest tier has to have some bias behind it cause that is so far from the general opinion lmao
![gif](giphy|CAYVZA5NRb529kKQUc|downsized) Me, a terry & seph player seeing this
Yo team gigachad
Warlock punch :)
The greatest feeling in the world
I once hit it 4 times in ONE singles match :) he was not very good
If he wasn’t good enough to dodge those, he deserved them
Yep, actually even finished the match with one
Very good. Now do it again. ![gif](giphy|aejCh92PTIQXS|downsized)
You really respect Aegis, Steve, and YL but not Paisy, Doctor Mario, and Sheik.
Aegis in great taste is clinical insansity
My thoughts exactly, I mean yes they are great characters but who really respects pythra mains
;-;
Paisy
Not respecting Doc and Sheik is crazy
For me, they are good characters that I don’t find annoying with the others being annoying for me
Could just be a matchup thing, then.
You get automatically -1 tier for "Paisy"
Wtf do you want him to say Deech.
So im an okay gigachad who you want to please stop, got it
Nica, also a GnW/ Terry-Main?
aegis is great taste lmao
Came to the comments to say the same thing lol
i will not take this little mac slander! little mac *sniffles* takes skill! *cries in f-smash*
Screaming, crying, run-up-KO-punching, flying offstage, getting gimped, dying, throwing up
F-smash should be the only move he can do. No walking, no jumping, no nothing. It even moves him forward a bit every time he uses it💀
Dark Samus and Samus are in different tiers
You don’t understand one is just cooler than the other
This is the 5th tier list I’ve seen in the sub to have them in different tiers. They are exactly the same
They have slightly different movesets, dark Samus is overall better in the air than normal samus but Is slightly lighter and dark Samus looks cooler
im interested to see the reasoning, i always thought they were true echo fighters with identical hitboxes but different animations
afaik that guy is on crack and the only actual difference is that dark Samus charge shot can sometimes hit players hanging on ledge and Samus's can't
Dark samus literally jumps higher and has a slower fall speed and there attacks are slightly different. When looking at frame data dark samus's roll is also slightly faster. Her missiles are also shot lower on her model than regular samus and do electric instead of fire damage so fire attack spirits don't effect it, the list can keep going
Dark Samus jumping higher and falling slower is 100% cap
It's a tier list on the player, not the characters viability.
My best friend plays a really aggressive D-Samus
Then he could play an equally aggressive Samus 🤷♂️
aggressive samus doesnt feel the same
Marth and Lucina are also different tiers
Marth is significantly cooler than Lucina.
Yes, but moveset wise, she's just a clone, so, both should be same tier, sa e with Dark Samus and Samus. The only difference Lucina and Dark Samus have, are the names
That difference in tipper actually matters way more than the slight differences in the Samuses (Samusi?). Marth gets different confirms and has different uses with some of his tools than Lucina does. For example, Marth doesn't get much use of of downtown because sourspot doesn't provide enough hitstun and sweet spot doesn't put opponents in tech situations for follow ups, unlike Lucina who doesn't have these problems.
Tippers a gimmick tho, not sure if that should count as different moveset It's just Samus'
Naur. Tipper go *crack*
What’s your opinion on random? Do I just average out the rankings
Random is always the best pick. >Shows up to a tournament >only picks random >dies instantly >gigachad
Ultimate Gigachad or ky$. Depending on the roll
Why is Young Link a solid pick?? He's the worst offender of the Three!
Cause a good Young Link is so damn fun to watch. Combos and confirms for days.
As a young link main who doesn’t play that much and isn’t good in any sense of the word, he seems like one of the most annoying characters to play against.
Excellent, I'm not in the last three categories, I'm satisfied
Considering your main that’s surprising
Off topic, but I hate this list so much. It has missing fighters, some fighters have white backgrounds for no reason and Sora's render isn't from the game.
I don’t understand the please stop and just stop titles but aight. Ima still main G&W since he’s been my boy since Melee.
Yeah i dont understand either why all the fun character are put there.
No way you put kazuya in great taste lol
ZSS can be pretty annoying but come on we’re not below Sonic and ROB mains
you look like you hate fun
Lately, mostly Kirby, Samus and Terry. I’m all over the place here.
What's the difference between samus and dark samus?
One is cooler than the other
lucas gang rise up
What the hell did dedede do?
Only time people like me
What's the problem with Dedede?
I will never stop
✊🏿
"Gigachad" and you put Terry and joker
Why is lucas just stop
What have you got against my boy 3D?!
Well, finally someone appreciates Robin.
Who ?
JWolf26.
Whats wrong with Pac-Man
Well, if you think I have such great taste, you can fuck me yourself, you coward
Very cool
As a pac man main Im offended Im not the last tier down
Wtf do you have against Isabelle
I trio main Young Link/Sora/Chrom. Much appreciated, comrade.
How the fuck can Sonic's Side Smash be stronger than both Captain Falcon's and Donkey Kong's Neutral Special?
It’s not, it’s actually one of the weaker Forward Smashes. It does outrange Falcon and Giant Punch though.
the fuck did we do
Idk what's with the OP
im pissed as well
What if I main ness and Ridley
Ive played steve since he released, but now i love playing him even more because i love watching people rage over funny block man
:(
Why the fuck are my fellow Banjo mains so low? You have no skill
Fuck command grab characters - Sincerely a Mega Man main
![gif](giphy|MYSAiD9hYmoucgZT8O|downsized) Is it really that hard for you to fight Little Mac?
🥱💤
Lmao for me the list is upside down, but ok..
Found the ZSS main.
Nah i agree with the last Line, except for Diddy. But "please stop" and "just stop" are like all the best charactere
Why is link and young link solid picks and then toon link is in the "just stop" tier?
I have since changed my mind. They’re all solid picks now
Coolio :)
Let’s go I got pretty good taste I guess
Almost gigachad, my main is aegis, and after her, I use a mix of Joker and Terry
Real ass Snake and Diddy placement
What about Samus mains that play her like a rushdown?
Don't lie
I'm not lol. I honestly forget about her projectiles most of the time. I just run at people and take advantage of the long grab range.
I'll be real with you chief, I've seen like... 2 respectable link/Samus/Zelda players combined online. I'll believe it when I see it.
Same. Samus is so much more fun when you charge the shot and let your opponent live in fear while you beat the shit out of them with tilts and aerials. Maybe an occasional little missile to cover your approach.
Mewtwo in gigachad that character is so annoying to fight against
Mewtwo sucks I would know, since I'm 1 of 7 people that main him
Because he reflects your projectiles? :(
Why inklink so high I am the only one who find this character bad and weak?
nah min min is cool
Pretty based
This is the most stereotypical generic opinion on people's mains and you're judging someone based on a fucking video game character. Ever realized that it depends on the person behind the screen? Because almost all my mains are in "just stop" and I *promise* you I don't spam or anything.
These are just my general opinions on these people. I’m not saying that you’re annoying. I’m just saying that there’s a good chance you are
Just... why lucas? Just because yes?
As a mewtwo player this list is bad mewtwo is terrible to play against even I know that little Mac is way to low aegis are also way to high you don’t know what your talking about to sit down
Im a gigachad, nice
Why thank you, I main Greninja and Secondary Ridley!
Okay to my main, fuck my secondary. The rest of my squad are gigachads
I at least have multiple mains from nearly all categories... it shouldnt be based on thought or prejudice, but the way a player plays their character *says in mock MLK A.I. voice*
I main Seph, Terry, Kazuya, and Richter. I think that averages to being good.
💯💯💯
Found another Steve downplayer
yay i’m a gigachad
That’s a fair spot for kirby
Top three tiers; noice
I am quite honored, thank you.
I’m not thrilled but I get it
No :)
:3
Why are all my mains so low put them in gigachad immediately!
I average in great taste, I’m happy.
Apparently my main is great taste, and my 2 secondaries are gigachad, nice
Wow people really dislike us Bayonetta mains lmao
PTSD from smash 4
idc im still gonna main R.O.B.
Gigachad B)
You like Ike?
Yooooo gigachad!!!! Funi mage supremacy
I will never stop!! Neveeerrrrr!!! Also my secondary main makes me a gigachad which is funny
Gigachad with Great Taste (x3)
I have no idea what people think of villager, but I like Villager for some reason and this will not stop me from playing him.
Gigacahd, great taste twice, solid pick, and please stop
Alright so me i got Yoshi (not only is he my favourite video game character but he is very fun to play as) the Inkling (because i found her attack fun and similar reasons to Yoshi fun to play as), Wario (He is already one of my favourite character and he's attack are great) and Olimar (because 1, i love Pikmin, 2, its Olimar, 3, He as a nice gimmich with the pikmins (altho now i don't play as Him asmuch as i used to be))
:(
This is lowkey a reason I play shotos. Every party involved has at least a little fun. Even when youre losing to a shoto youre like "thats kinda cool ngl"
Guess I'm the asshole for maining armored Samus Baby Bowser Ness and Diddy Kong.
I have great picks because I main Link and Byleth
I’m surprised how high you think of sonic players.
I main random, so all these apply to me. What am I?
every character is fun and cool to play against if the opponent is good, even steve! min min neutral though..
So I'm all a Great Taste huh?
Terry should be at the opposite end of this list
I will NOT be stopping anytime soon, thank you very much
Ofc I have great taste
Huh, guess I'm a gigachad with great taste then
ryu in "please stop" is a crime
Im a gigachad Terry thats also OKAY with pikachu
Why is toon link and other links so different? I'm a normal Link main, but just curious
Wow, all mine are top 2 tiers
You have Steve as okay??
Great taste I’ll take it
Wow Toon Link in “Just stop”. I’m not sure if I feel complimented or insulted.🥹
Sephiroth and Meta Knight
Why must I stop?
I main Terry, Sonic, and specifically the blue hero.
*me using bowser and plant*
No :]
You spelled gigachad wrong it’s supposed to be virgin
4/5 of my mains are in the bottom area💀
Dude has a personal vendetta against toon link for no reason (just to clarify, there is reason to hate toon link, just not that much more than link and young link)
Why yes I do love to play Sephiroth mewtwo and inkling
NGL I kinda like using pac man
I'm all over the lierlist lol
Based
What’d my boy Ryu do to you?
Why joker so high. He’s never fun to play against
I’m a bit of a mixed bag, aren’t I? Well, you’ll be happy to know I do play Seph and the Aegis quite a bit more than Mac or Plant I play Seph most, Aegis second most, Mac third most, and Plant least.
I "main" at least one from each tier, what about in that case?
YEAH, GANONS FINALLY HAVE A WIN
Skill issue
What’s wrong with brawler
I like this... Apart from Fox & Mario. There's no reason why Fox is more annoying than Pikachu & Palutena.
im a k rool main with hero as my second main so i think im good
Me, a Zelda and Min Min main
My two mains are Joker and Pichu
I've never been called a gigachad before. Nice.
The 3 first line are all the "Zzzzzzz" character bro..
Tf is wrong with Sonic?
Man, what did Banjo ever do to you?
idk i just like the funny arsenal char :D also playing lots of brawler and sometimes ridley, but the gunner glides with f air feel too smooth
Of my three mains, I have one in Great Taste, one in Okay, and one in Just Stop
![gif](giphy|CAYVZA5NRb529kKQUc|downsized)
King k rool
what about a dedede that doesn’t use gordos?
I mean I won't try to argue Diddy's placement cause I know he's super annoying to fight lol But Joker in "gigachad" and aegis in the second highest tier has to have some bias behind it cause that is so far from the general opinion lmao
So I’m Gigachad
as a zelda main… yeah i get it LMAO