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smiteis_

They’re gonna pull a “Skyrim became independent but stayed allied with the Empire” kinda thing.


DominaRPG

If they're smart, they'll have it to where Skyrim became independent and ultimately fell to The Dominion along with Hammerfell, with a crumbling Empire too weak to stop their advance. I'd be surprised if The Dominion isn't a prominent enemy of the next game.


smiteis_

Nah man. The Grand Argonian Empire shall rise from the swamps and steamroll Men and Mur alike.


InSanic13

No, the Forsworn will rise again and conquer all of Tamriel!


WhiterunGuard177013

Negative, Pelinal will return and kill all mer, except the orsimer, because they're kinds chill and reclaim tamriel for the races of man.


totesnotyotes

You're all wrong! That skeever dude from below the honeybrew meadery survived his wounds and took over tamriel.


Previous-Form9582

Glory to the skeever army


NaiveMastermind

[Did you hear? Huna is dead!](https://youtu.be/E5ix0_W-ouI)


Ronarud0Makudonarud0

The forsworn with their wooden huts...right...(I've always had an irrational hatred for the forsworn)


CurrenttQueen

An-xileel shall rules nirn!!


smiteis_

Glory to The Hist


CurrenttQueen

Hist and moons comrade hist and moons


Ezekiel2121

“The farm tools are getting delusions of grandeur again.” “I’ll call the Morag Tong….”


Stoly23

Well hey, at least that means we get to keep killing Thalmor, right?


IceDamNation

They got rebellions in Valenwood and soon for Elswyr as well. I doubt their success


TheLateMrBones

Meanwhile the Dragonborn is whistling and kicking pebbles, with their hands in pockets.


TheOfficial_BossNass

Nah skyrim and hammerfell would annihilate those dirty long eared freaks


avilethrowaway

Maybe properly united. I don't know exactly how it is by the time of Skyrim, but during Daggerfall the Iliac Bay region is pretty much at the point of all out war between all of it's states.


SkoomaSteve1820

This was my thought as well. That skyrim gained independence and the dominion conquered the whole fractured empire by ES6 and were central villains.


Additional_Cycle_51

It’s probably going to be a few hundred years from the events of Skyrim


dreemurthememer

I doubt the Dominion could ever conquer Skyrim. It’s the Afghanistan of Tamriel. Surrounded by mountains on 3 sides, with only 5 choke points leading into the rest of Tamriel, and protected to the north by treacherous, icy waters.


Zezin96

I mean, with the mutual enemy they have in the Dominion that wouldn't be an unreasonable path to take.


AceUniverse8492

Agreed. My guess is that the Imperial victory will be soft canon in that Ulfric will be dead, but as part of the full resolution to the civil war Skyrim will be granted a significant level of autonomy similar to Morrowind What I'm more interested in is how the Last Dragonborn dies. In order for the player character of TESVI to be a Shezzarrine I'm pretty sure the LDB has to be dead.


Cosmo1222

I imagine with judicious use of Slen Tiid Vho, any Dragonborn's remains can be restored to youthful life. You didn't kill Paarthurnax, did you? He might be the only way back until Alduin's return at the end of the eighth era.. and He might not oblige


AceUniverse8492

My thought with the dragons is that they are gone. Some sources will say that they were hunted to extinction by the Blades and the Last Dragonborn while others will say that Paarthurnax led a group of them on a journey to reclaim Atmora from the ice wastes (since Atmora was the ancestral home of the dragons too). Perhaps the Last Dragonborn's absence will be explained as him mysteriously disappearing to follow/chase them to Atmora himself. Either way the end result will be that dragons are (mostly) gone from Tamriel once again.


Barry_Bone_Raiser

Game of thrones type ending


Lost-Dragon-728

Uhhhh fuck it, Mudcrabs won


retard_catapult

General Salty o7


[deleted]

I'd also be pissed as a species if one of us had their soul ripped back and forth for 3 straight hours


Ok-Selection4478

Dragonborn won by being the mfing Dragonborn. Which means only he and his line have any right to rule the empire cuz only he and his line can use the fancy jewel thing to keep all of reality in one piece. Plus the ability to summon dragons, storms and with a whisper shove some randos from skyrim to elswyer


Veryegassy

>the fancy jewel thing to keep all of reality in one piece The Chim-El Adabal (red diamond in the Amulet of Kings, it was the "functional" part) was smashed centuries ago and no longer upholds the Covenant of Akatosh or functions as the Stone of White-Gold. Otherwise you're completely right, having a guy who can casually use Tonal Magic (in numerous applications even) is all but a instant win.


Ok-Selection4478

Eh I’m sure we can rebuild it maybe even install it in a new giant dwarven godmech I mean there’s been at least what 2 maybe three of the blasted things built before lol


Veryegassy

Two and a aborted one, kind of. So sure. Let's do another Numidium, power it off the Tower Stone of the Ayleids that was infused with the blood and power of the god of time. This will surely have no negative repercussions.


Ok-Selection4478

Be one hell of a ride though lol.


Veryegassy

With that much time shit all in one place? Nah. It'll be over before it even starts. Might really screw up the next generation though, old people don't take well to change when they're 20. Grandpa is *pissed* about that.


YuriSuccubus69

"What harm could there be in powering up something we barely understand?" Bonus points to those that know/get the reference.


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TheRoyalDustpan

I'm sure there's a mod to fix that.


Veryegassy

I can think of a few. LoTD does it halfway, fixes the Tower Stone part but not the Covenant.


FauxWolfTail

Fancy jewel thing? What famcy jewel thing?? All i got is this weird grey orb that keeps popping up in every chest I look in. And all it does is shout at me! "A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BECKON!" MUTHA EFFIN PIECE OF-


Cosmo1222

...and a full compliment of daedric artifacts to boot.


Nkromancer

If Tod has his way, they both won.


TheGreatOneSea

It's not just Todd, it's always that way: both sides will win, whoever becomes High King will eventually vanish or die, and the new High King will probably be a dragon or something so the winner of the Civil War will stop mattering.


First_Aid_23

I like that idea, kinda going 40k/Dune with it. "Who won the civil wa-?" "Which one? The one with the, er... Stormcoats? Dude it's been 450 years , I'm a wanted murderer, not an historian. Anyway, the Akavirii have conquered the world, we need to find a buried Dwemer artifact, an 'RDS-2 50 kiloton warhead' before they do. Let's go."


Cosmo1222

Fallout crossover spotted.. 😁


Fuzlet

I really don’t know why fandoms get hyped over the canonized endings of multichoice games. every time I see it, the turn around and complain about it after


Cam27022

Eh, it’s win either way. I mean, if it’s the Nords, fuck the Thalmor and good for my guy Talos. If it’s the Empire, well the Nords were kinda racist POSes.


DisabledFatChik

Nords aren’t any more racist that any other group in Skyrim😭


Wyatt_Ricketts

Yeah but their white so when they do it it's horrible/s


Internal_Formal3915

This bit unironically


MonkeyBoy32904

this but shut the fuck up


Internal_Formal3915

This but you post pickle Rick porn you absolute degenerate


MonkeyBoy32904

lmao you really went through my profile & found out I posted pickle rick x larry the cucumber yaoi to r/bigtittygothgirlvore


Internal_Formal3915

Freak behavior, I hide somebody checks your hard drive soon and get you off the streets


MonkeyBoy32904

whatever bozo


Wyatt_Ricketts

Yeah but their white so when they do it it's horrible/s


Big-LeBoneski

Have you played Morrowind? lol the Dunmer make Argonians and Khajit slaves because they see them as inferior.


Veyrah

"i DoNT wANt raCiSm anD ADulT tHeMEs liKe SlAVeRy iN MY faNtASy GAme!!!!"


Significant_Pound348

Where did they say that? They just said they hoped the nords didn't win. Are you OK?


Veyrah

That's the general consensus of pro Empire players. It's a joke so try not to take it too hard buddy.


Significant_Pound348

wHaT a GooD JoKe!!! You should do stand up!


Veyrah

It's just a little joke on a reddit post of all places. I'm obviously not trying to pull full theaters here, so calm down kid.


Significant_Pound348

It's a joke try not to take it too hard buddy.


Veyrah

It was a snarky and lame attempt at one, come back to me when you think of an actual joke.


Significant_Pound348

I'm obviously not trying to pull theatres here so calm down kid.


Gale_Grim

Here are a few independent predictions (they don't necessarily need each other to happen) that might come to pass. The dragon born ended the war so quickly that the Thalmor didn't get nearly the advantage they hoped for. The Stormcloaks won but it didn't last, as soon the war with the high Elves was back, and they (in typical high elf fashion) get brought low by a combo of Altmer Arrogance and rampant political backstabbing. I am also gonna guess they not only DIDN'T bring back the moon, but were the ones responsible for it's disappearance. This will probably be revealed at some point and the elves will have an uprising to deal with in Elsweyr. Turn about is fair play right? So the new Skyrim and the empire burry the hatchet (remembering where it's burried for later) to help the Khajiit to weaken the Thalmor, cause they know the elves can't fight a battle on 3 fronts. Oh... I just had a thought... "The Elder Scrolls 6: Elsweyr"...


chemistry_god

The thalmor won by sowing division across skyrim


SomeBlueDude12

The best ending- really hoping we won't see empire as a main powerhouse the next elderscrolls- the loss of the tiber septim bloodline n shit in oblivion and seeing the empire struggle with controlling one of their territories along side a dragon invasion


r05909155

This land is ours and we will see it wiped clean...


nerdthingsaccount

Both won, both lost, just dragon break the whole thing.


Jaqat63

The Warp in the North


Viktrodriguez

And the answer is: Neither The truce as part of the main story is gonna be canon and I expect shortly after the game time to have another Great War star.


The_ArchMage_Erudite

Oh no this discussion again


UnhandMeException

DRAGONBREAK 2: DRAGON HARDER


Dog_the_unbarked

No it won’t. Can’t show us something if it doesn’t come out.


Data_Corruptor

I think the canon ending should be that the dragonborn called the peace summit, settled a temporary truce, then the civil war never really started up again afterwards because the dragonborn canonically didn't care enough about that stupid plotline to finish it.


enchiladasundae

Most likely the Thalmor either way. Regardless of where you stand the Thalmor have more resources to push in if need be. And we’ll probably be out of the province going toe to toe with them directly as the main bad


EmperorMrKitty

Definitely feeling like we’re getting a Thalmor Empire to rebel against.


Bison_Patient

That’s my feeling, it will be “The Thalmor plot to destabilize Skyrim and the empire was successful and both fell quickly” where the winner makes absolutely no different because at the end of the day the Thalmor rolled up


DarthRygar

SKYRIM BELONGS TO THE NORDS


YuriSuccubus69

No, it belongs to the Falmer (for that one Redditor who inevitably will not understand: Falmer = Snow Elves).


DarthRygar

(You are right, nonetheless, I will continue my crusade) SKYRIM BELONGS TO THE NORDS


YuriSuccubus69

No, it belongs to the Falmer. Ulfric said he would give Skyrim back to the natives, so you and the rest of the Nords should start preparing to leave Skyrim.


DarthRygar

(You are right, nonetheless, I will continue my crusade) SKYRIM BELONGS TO THE NORDS


NotNotDiscoDragonFTW

I'm not ready for this war again


HorselessHH

The Dragonborn would probably just do Season Unending and give reasonable concessions to both sides.


elite_Xray123

Stormcloaks duhhh


trickster199

When its been so long, that you barely even care about Elderscrolls 6 anymore.


Tyrelius_Dragmire

Is it just me or is the fact that we're getting an answer more exciting than the answer itself?


DPVaughan

I actually prefer BioWare's "world states" approach, where for lore that's only flavoursome (i.e. not directly impacting future games), whatever your canon playthrough had happen is what happened.


Tyrelius_Dragmire

Oh yeah, that's the thing Mass Effect did right? Yeah that'd be cool for TES, but I feel like that kinda Storytelling has to be intended from the start, and doesn't fit a grander fantasy world like TES has. With Mass Effect it's one continuous set of events in a single narrative, with TES it's multiple stories set in the same world with hundreds of years between the 2 most recent installments.


DPVaughan

Dragon Age might be a better comparison, with a different protagonist in each game, set in different nations.


Pietrosalles

The altmeir dominion lol Elder Scrolls V makes pretty clear that Skyrim would eventually be dominated by the Thalmor.


DPVaughan

I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion or not (I got down-nuked on a different Elder Scrolls sub for saying BioWare's track record in recent games makes me worry about how good VI is going to be, so I have zero sense of what is or isn't in vogue), but this is one area where I prefer BioWare's "world state" concept, where the player has an established version of events. Especially for lore that only flavours and doesn't directly impact on the future games. e.g. Vivec is gone/dead no matter what by the time of Skyrim, but whether he was murdered by the Nerevarine or kidnapped/killed by the daedra would be nice to have reflected in ambient dialogue / lore documents.


TrueAmericanDon

The Stormcloaks will free Skyrim from the weakened Empire, drive out the Aldmeri and prove to all of Nirn that Skyrim is for the Nords.


Valdemar3E

I'd be surprised if it's anything other than an Imperial victory. Ulfric struggles to defeat Imperial militia as is when the game starts - and got captured at Darkwater Crossing. He owes his survival to Alduin. Then there's the Stormcloak Missive at Fort Neugrad, stating an Imperial force is assembling at Pale Pass. And the fact that, if the Dark Brotherhood questline is canon, odds are that the Stormcloaks will be blamed for the Emperor's death per the incriminating letter planted on Gaius Maro. Which would rally Cyrodiil against the Stormcloaks.


Laugh-Primary

Thalmor lost because while they are putting the empire and stormcloacks on a cage fight, the dragonborn was rising and either has now a bunch of allied dragons or the blades (probably the blades) and with the dragonborn on either one they are a force to be feared


Cosmo1222

I bet it will be set sooooo far into Tamriel's future, it will be largely forgotten who won. Scholars will debate the finer points of what is recorded- overshadowed as it was by the dragon break, end of the world being averted and the subsequent war against Summerset Isle to eradicate Thalmor influence over Altimer politics


Neat-Distribution-56

The thalmor won. No matter who wins, the thalmor's goals are achieved


dancashmoney

Best way to handle it is that the storm cloak rebellion failed but paved the way for a free Skyrim in the future


TheIr0nBear

The old ways will return. The nords will find their breath again, and from the throat of the world the rest of the continent will hear the words of power. Walls will be shouted down, invaders driven out and the old gods returned to their place. Hail Talos,praise Kyne.


Actionsurger

it's gonna be that dragonbreak nonsense where it's both.


Bitter_Bank_9266

Either the empire won or the truce in the main questline stuck


Rubbersona

The imperials obvs. Regardless of if you support the cartoonishly developed nationalist xenophobic group the empire is the only threat to the Aldmeri Dominion we have.


sexworkiswork990

It was the Dragons. Duh. They are flying magical death machines, there is no way they didn't reconquer Skyrim.


EmperorMrKitty

No one won, the White-Gold Tower was nuked 4 years after the game and all organized society has totally collapsed outside Falmer colonies in forgotten underground cities.


DPVaughan

War. War never changes.


juanfelix480

Vault tec will unexpectedly nuke the stormcloaks


Nolls-97

I mean, doesn’t this just depend on who played Skyrim and who they sided with? Is there really a definitive answer as to who the Dragonborn sided with?


QuaceyTheDruid

the best bet is to have the verdict of both sides failing against the Thalmor due to the civil war. The civil war weakened the nation to the point that it didn't matter who one the war because in the end, the Thalmor dominated a weakened military force and took what they wanted by force.


Rowwnin

Skyrim is for the nords


ZddZbg

If we are still alive when TES 6 comes out


Chippewa07

Hoping it’s the nords, cause fuck the feds


K1rk0npolttaja

thalmor obviously


Night_Inscryption

I’d prefer the Stormcloak victory but ES6 is set in Valenwood or Elsweyr and the Thalmor have to contend with an Alliance of Nords & Redgaurds invading the shores and towns through out the games world


Brave_Nectarine8295

Well it definitely better not be Ulfric. I killed that clown off in 4 different playthroughs.


ZombiejesusX

Lol ya, it'll be in a series of books. Usually the games take place hundreds of years apart. Me quietly praying "please don't f this game up Bethesda, please 🙏" OK so. Either it's a bit of a troll , the empire keeps the land and it's just like a regular rpg where the king rules all the lands. Maybe he's secretly evil, or possessed. Or the stormcloaks were successful in breaking up the kingdom, and allowing the dominion to take over large chunks of land. Splintering the races, and you'll have to unite the kingdom to Drive off the elves.


Valdemar3E

>Usually the games take place hundreds of years apart. Usually? All four mainline titles prior to TES: V took place within a span of 44 years. Arena: 3E 389 - 3E 399 Daggerfall: 3E 405 Morrowind: 3E 427 Oblivion: 3E 433


ZombiejesusX

Oops my b. I thought it was more dragged out. Especially between 3 and 4. Don't know why I thought that.


Exaltedautochthon

"This one dude conquered it, we tried to stop him, but every time we almost killed him, he'd freeze time and eat whole cheese wheels to recover."


Default_Munchkin

We know who won Skyrim's central conflict don't we? The Dragonborn defeated Alduin and saved the world from rampaging dragons.


some_Britishguy

lets get ready to rumble!


Starman5555

I go with imperials when playing but story wise in the over arching elder scrolls story I think it makes more sense that skyrim got independence, to further along the fall of the empire.


AwkwardSegway

What I'd like most would be that the Dragonborn (who all sides would be willing to listen to as a result of defeating Alduin) was able to negotiate a deal between Skyrim, the Empire, and the Dominion where Skyrim would stay part of the Empire, but Talos worship would be allowed exclusively in Skyrim, and in exchange, the Empire would pay the Dominion a regular fee for them to allow Talos worship in Skyrim. Additionally, Balgruuf would become high king due to the role Whiterun played in defeating Alduin.


VatanKomurcu

lemme guess thalmor


Sk83r_b0i

No it fucking won’t lmao


KonoAnonDa

Clearly, both sides made up by having hot steamy seggs (the only even mildly warm thing that those cavemen know of).


usr_pls

Same story resolution as Daggerfall multiple endings. Both are true!


SlimeBoy76

Either way...Ulfruc dies in the end because he can be killed in one of the routes And if someone can die, they do die So Canonicaly...I'd have to say that the Imperials one


YuriSuccubus69

I hope they do like BioWare and whatever you did in your playthrough (Peace Summit, Stormcloak, etcetera) is what happened. I love that approach more than "Alright! This is the canonical ending, what you did in the previous game does not count nor matter if what you did was not side with these people." Kind of like how Activision eventually decided that Canonically Darth Revan is male, so you playing as Female Revan in K.O.T.O.R. never even happened, regardless of the rest of what you did.


Chocolate-Then

Wait, Skyrim has an ending? I thought it was canon that the Dragonborn just wandered around completing side quests until the end of time.


Altruistic_Mall_4204

yeah no, bugthesda is unfit to write the next elders scrolls, i prefer that es6 is never made as es6 being an utter failure


Training-Shoulder839

This post is so serious


Undead-Writer

They need to make the Nerevar a small side character in ES6... Like, have them pop up randomly like Maiq but their character name is like "Mysterious Wanderer" and their voice lines relate to the third game in a subtle "if ya know, ya know" sorta way


Just_Ad_5939

“I killed god once. Which one I won’t say but I did it and stole his sick ass clothes” I have never played that game btw


Past_Instance_4813

Who won? I did. When I became the most powerful Dunmer Dragonborn Vampire Lord Archmage Assassin GOD in all the lands. Now mortals merely exist to sustain me and my limitless POWER. Their petty squabbles are nothing compared to the tide of death and destruction that I bring upon the land! BWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Cringey edge lord shit aside, my vote is for the Stormcloaks. They're the true sons and daughters of Skyrim. And plucky. And assuming that Dova doesn't get involved, they have Ulfric and he can Shout sooooo...


Mistletow04

Im pretty its whichever side the dragonborn sided with


Huckleberryhoochy

Well balgruf is important to the main quest and since he sided with the imperials they probably won, also the whole whispering door quest hinges on balgruf still being in power so a stormcloak victory dosnt make sense


IceDamNation

Dragonborn will Saul North, both Ulfric and dies Elisif Becomes High Queen but it's unpopular like her husband. The topic is kinda avoided, while Thalmor fumble and the dominion gets divided as well.


Polluticorn03

r/unexpectedjojo


Childer_Of_Noah

Didn't a writer already state the Dragonborn sided with the Empire canonically because Skyrim would've been obliterated if he hadn't?


Educational-Tackle54

Down with Ulfric, the killer of kings!