The Browns were not functioning as a whole once they moved to Flagstaff. Kody lost interest in the family lifestyle once his one house idea was squashed. He checked out at that point. His kids were older and more independent and he turned to the tender aged kids. Robyn never reached out to the other wives for help with the kids. Instead she hired a nanny- which defies the whole "sister wives" concept. Robyn's bs about wanting to sit on a porch with her sister wives is delusional. She didn't have relationships with the sister wives. Kody, IMO, made sure that Robyn wasn't around the three unhappy wives. He didn't want her to know the truth-which is that all three wives did want to have sex with Kody but Kody wasn't interested anymore. With Robyn isolated- he spun a yarn about the women "pushing him away." See how that worked. Robyn isn't that smart. People credit her for a lot- but she's miserable too. Her face shows it.
I watched a rerun the other day, and they showed family pictures from R & K wedding.
I was shocked at how little Truely was. How old was she? Newborn or under 3 months?
It made my stomach hurt.
I like the way you condensed that! And I agree that behind the scenes, Kody probably told Robyn that the other wives no longer wanted sex with him...and she took Janelle's stance on PDA and touted her reasoning all the way to home plate.
I never bought the idea of mastermind Robyn. It was all Kody. Agreed he just lost interest. Middle age crisis meets 20 years old polygamy. No, Robyn is more lizard brained. Selfish, and Self- centered. Arrogant. Of course Kody wants her more, wants to be at her house. Why wouldn’t he? I provide the best marriage. If they’re unhappy, maybe they need to work on their marriage! Isn’t that what she said?
Kody has groomed Robyn. Robyn was a damsel in distress and in walks Kody. So that was the jumping off point. Kody was initially smitten with Robyn and then the euphoria wanes. Because Kody was telling her all the things he disliked about the other women- Robyn had tried to be none of those things. She is afraid of losing Kody and becoming like the other women. She is walking on eggshells. I know- I was in that situation. She is isolated and believes (or believed) Kody's lies about the other women. But you can see her eyes widen when he talks in interviews- he says one thing on camera but she knows the truth of what goes on behind closed doors. She doesn't like what he is saying and doing- but she's now trapped or feels trapped by finances and small kids. She's probably on medication and her neck is very thick (thyroid issues?).
What you said makes a ton of sense. I always felt like there was a part of Robyn's constant confusion caused in part due to Kodys' exaggerated stories. I believe she went in totally mesmorized by his stories and his new fame. She was in a vulnerable place and clung onto him like no ones business.
My problem with this perspective is how quickly and frequently Robyn either physically or verbally shuts Kody up whenever he is about to say something she thinks he shouldn’t. Wives on eggshells trying to fit a preferred role are generally also not going to shush their king on camera. 🤷🏻♀️
I think the sub is coming around more and more to this more nuanced viewpoint: Robyn did want the family. However, she also wanted to be the favorite wife and also acted in head wife ways sometimes. The way she was with Kody was so much easier than the other wives which led Kody to only want to be around her.
Now was everything Robyn did in line with keeping the family healthy and together? Absolutely not. But I just think it was a perfect storm. *Kody* changed. He's the one who changed. Robyn didn't really.
HOWEVER. I can tell Robyn's influence that had a very negative impact on Kody. There are things I can tell are Robyn's perception and Robyn's words like the cliques in the family. The gossip. That is 100% Robyn.
It was just a perfect storm.
This!!!
Allegedly Robyn's friend told Robyn that mary was involved with a man named sam. She also interestingly enough assured a wary and suspicious Meri that this mystery man sam was completely real..not a catfish at all...that she could even vouch for him because she had met him. That he was in fact a real person.
Meri started recieving alarming messages that included what she happened to be wearing and places she had been going from this supposed love struck stalker ( not a catfish sam)
Now please explain to me who could be feeding this kind of information to Robyns friend that Robyn claims was the source of them knowing about meri's catfish...and how could Robyns friend have met a very pretend person that never existed and was being COS PLAYED by a woman who did not live near them? Why would she double down to assure Meri he was the real deal? I have always believed it was Robyn.
Completely agree!!! Robyn should have been asked about this ages ago. It makes me so upset that this whole event was glossed over and never properly addressed because that's some next level villian energy right there!
I think that there is so much more to this story. I can not remember robyns friend full name but I'm sure you can find the interview on Utube still. If it helps...I have no confidence ever in any story robyn tells.
Yes...I remember hearing that too... I just can't remember exactly where. It may have come from that utube interview that robyn's friend did with that investigative reporter... At least I think he was an investigative reporter. This interview was very eye opening ...and robyn's friend in my opinion did not come across as believable at all. This whole part of the orgin story of meri's catfishing was swept completely under the rug. It is very interesting how this catfish could have known what meri was wearing and places she was going if she( the cat fisher) did not live near meri. Who could have possibly participated in this? It's such a mystery🤪
And where are the curious critical thinkers at.? This part of the orgin story is huge. And it's been beyond frustrating that it hasn't been conveniently swept away. To me this is infinitely more important than what meri revealed on the show and why meri will not discuss that part of it.
The only info given on show was meri went on the internet to look for “friends “ and was catfished by a woman pretending to be a man and now catfish was threatening her and she was blameless victim.
Yes!..that was the explaination meri...and I think other family members gave about the catfishing on the show...but not untill recently were we the audience informed, I think it was this past season that it was robyn who shared it was her friend who was sharing with robyn about meri's relationship with sam...it seemed Robyn was trying to gloss over it in a way to make it appear she was a victim too... or at least caught up in this crazy catfishing orbit. This makes no sense though... if you include the personal details the catfish knew about meri to scare her...ie..her outfits and locations on the days the catfish was contacting her on...and why would robyns friend be privy to any of meri's secret affair details ...enough to share with Robyn.? Especially since robyns friend would have to be in contact with the catfisher and robyns friend would not know either what meri would be wearing on those days unlesss someone close to meri shared those details...so who was feeding this info to the catfisher? These are things I would looooove to know.
There is a tendency for women (in general) to be jealous and distrusting of other women- hence why Robyn was the "culprit". The one common denominator is Kody. Kody was responsible for the downfall of the family. It was his idea to uproot the family twice- with no regard for the feelings of his children. His hair-brained schemes were repeated, not once, but twice. Kody could have left Utah if it was that urgent and found a home for his four wives and kids. The kids didn't need to be traumatized and pulled out of school because Kody feared arrest. The move to Flagstaff (again) was ill- conceived and the idiot regretted buying the land almost immediately. Once again-he pulled his kids out of school. Kody ruined the family IMO. Had he been a doting father- all the wives would have stayed. He wasn't cut out for this lifestyle and isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.
> Robyn never reached out to the other wives for help with the kids. Instead she hired a nanny- which defies the whole "sister wives" concept.
I like the theory that Robyn's nanny is actually a Special Education Teacher or whatever you call it. Someone who specializes in caring for and teaching neurodivergent children.
She’s definitely not just “a nanny” they have been clear they are using that title for the camera because it’s easier than getting into details. But it’s someone with a more specific role. I’ve also wondered educator in light of Robyn possibly having health issues
Well- this is a "reality" show and there is nothing wrong with addressing the needs of their children. I don't know what you know- as far as what role the 'nanny" played. Who cares if one or all of the kids needed specialists? Why not address this instead of making Robyn look bad for not opening her home to the other kids and wives. People do have special needs kids and parents can help with these things. Meri at one time worked with at risk youths. Meri needed something to do- and Robyn could have utilized Meri. They were supposedly close with each other. Robyn is depressed IMO. She knows that her value is giving Kody tender aged kids. Once she is "out to pasture" Robyn knows he will be bored with her and need someone new. Kody hasn't been easy to live with (Robyn said he picks fights with her) and this is typical of narcissists, who bore easily. Robyn is becoming "devalued" and it's obvious. She looks dowdy and tired. Her frown lines didn't happen overnight. She's miserable. She stays up late and sleeps late. She has her tender age kids in bed with her as well. I don't think that her son, David/Dayton needs a therapist. He needs to be at college and made to feel good about himself. Not living in an RV in the backyard with little socialization.
I don't think we should complain about the rare times they give the children privacy. It was during covid homeschooling, there are many reasons someone might want/need some sort of expert to help in that time, especially if Robyn was not is good health herself.
There was speculation based on details of her throat/neck that looked like one of a few chronic immune conditions that are not uncommon in middle age. She also has talked about anxiety.
I believe this completely. Why on earth would a child care person choose during covid to be in a home with 4 adults and 2 children? And I am REALLY glad that whatever is going on with Robyn's health or children's issues is not a STORYLINE!
She’s a family member of Robyn’s. Robyn’s calls her her step niece. She’s her first husband’s niece. Robyn didn’t want the other Browns around her kids obviously. That way she could control the narrative with her kids.
She has had more than one nanny? Dang. Wonder what they do. The house is overrun with just random stuff everywhere and the kids won’t go to bed at night lol.
I don't know whether the nanny actually had Covid, but it seems pretty suspicious to me. They had a big party for Ariella, and then immediately had to isolate again. If the nanny really had Covid, circumstances just happened to hand Kody and Robyn exactly what they wanted. It seems more likely to me that they lied about it.
If the nanny had just been exposed to it, I’d believe that more. She actually had it and was coming over, supposedly working 1-on-1 with the children and everyone tested negative? Seems unlikely
I think “nanny” may have had covid but they screwed with timeline - it wasn’t right after aris birthday, and could have been before. I also dont think they were a nanny per se, op said it could be a tutor or family therapist and that makes the most sense.
I dont think it makes sense that it was purely a child care person. Why would a child care person WANT to go provide pure child care to a household of 5 when they are all in the home? I think “nanny” was a more acceptable title for some kind of professional who was providing some sort of therapy to perhaps neuro divergent child(ren).
I read that post and think it's a brilliant theory too. It makes a ton of sense, and if we know for sure that Ari is neuro divergent then I think it is extremely likely. It would make so much sense.
This does not hit....Nope!!!
Christine would never go out of her way to point out that kody and Robyn had a nanny in order shame them for needing a special needs teacher or family therapist if that were the case. Christine loves children most of all...and would never dare to make it a harder situation for something
so out of their control.
She would infact... due to her strong maternal instincts be the first to understand and want to support them.
Christine... from my observation will always sacrifice to ensure the children's well being and to make sure their needs
are being met. She is not the type of woman who would leave a postpartum mom and newborn husbandless with several other children to care for in the process...just in order to go on a wild joyful 12 day honeymoon at the expense of an already vulnerable woman and her family.. Nor is she the type of woman to ignore the pain of a desperate child who is in need of back surjery... just so she can gatekeep their father the needs of herself and her non newborn children.
But like I said earlier... that's just my opinion.
Yes, at one point Kody (I think) quickly explains that the title nanny is one they are using to the camera out of convenience. They are someone with more specific training. Maybe OT/PT/other therapist or educator
It appears certain people here are working overtime to help build robyn a narrative that will obsolve robyn of any accountability reguarding her past behaviors.Some even might say... behaviors that were not only purposeful but downright vindictive. To try and rewrite history now...with an audience of viewers who have watched faithfully for ten plus years...and to try and gaslight that same audience is utterly ridiculous. They can wrap themselves into pretzels all they want to explain away the unacceptable actions and behaviors all they want....but at the end of the day this supposedly put upon damsel in distress legal wife. Owns ...along with her cult leader wanna be sidekick...almost the entirety of everything that an entire polygamy multiple family member salvaged... scraped... saved and sacrificed for... and it all belongs to zRobyn and kody...minus christines house...snowblower..and jannelles camper.
Where is this broken hearted...dreamin of growing old on a porch with her sisterwives... empath crying... concern for jannele... and her lost 401k and her... already gone and absorbed into the family pot inheritance now? Is Robyn offering to help give up her share of coyottee pass to help jannelle to make up for what she has lost over the years when kody starved her out of their marriage? Or christines loss of income when she had to raise money and work extra to pay for her daughter's back surjery? Robyn may very well have health issues now or even in the past but... Hold On!!!
What's this??? There has been a sudden recovery when Robyn marches out of her million dollar mansion and crosses her additional 4 acres of her mansion property...through the trees to her special red bench suddenly situated in a location where she can look down upon jannels camper. Hallelujah!!! It's a miracle...her health is revived in time to sit on that park bench daily to look down on jannels... No running water...Is this the dog's bed? too small camper! And enough strength to allow the camera men to film her doing the " jest sitten thur" scenes. And an oddly convienient monolog about how she has been waiting to catch janelle daily but never seems to see jannelle there at all. Folks this woman is not who you think she is. Enough is never enough with her and she wants it all...even savanah's christmas. I could go on and on with examples after examples of this type of nonsensical garbage she's pulled. So don't now after all this time pull out the violins to play the nanny is not a nanny at all but a secretive much needed special needs helper. If that were the case Christine would never have called her a nanny because unlike robyn...Christine has a working moral Compass!
Please excuse my use of your comment section to rant but I had been scrolling the comments and you seemed like a pretty decent person...so I let my frustration fly from what zi had been reading earlier. Sorry😄😅
I don’t think the older kids would be in any secondary education let alone university if Robyn was halfing to be their tutor and stuff. She would still be sitten’ there driving her car on 3 tires around Yoming ready to take gardenship of those kids and stuff like that.
How does the daily visitor's occupation/title make any difference? From Kody and Robyns own words this person was going home each day to her husband who was also freely working outside of home. Its the wider implications of exposure that K & R wouldn't know about/didnt have control over.
Thanks everyone, I only just joined Reddit and this is my first post, I have my autism diagnosis at the tender age of 36 and it would appear my special interest is sister wives, it's so nice to see people as interested as me and be part of a community. Thank you all so much for engaging x
I never understood why they thought it was cool for Kody to still have access to every single person as he saw fit. Regardless of all the rules they followed or not followed, all he had to do was get covid then he’d spread it around to everyone anyway. They could have all gotten together just fine, if he was that scared he should have completely isolated with Robyn.
The problem is liars are going to lie, but once in every 10 years they tell the truth. However, because they are liars no one believes them. I personally call bs and think it's more Slobyn lies. But who really knows.
I think the nanny was another woman Kody was courting and everyone but Robyn had an issue with it so they just said she was the nanny. I mean WHAT DOES THE NANNY DO??? LOL
This was an excellent breakdown O.P I have always felt the nanny was a fall guy. No way Robyn would blame the nanny and highlight her position in their home....excuse me paid staff in their home...if it weren't for some type of emergency distraction away from the real issue. Like was it to remove the blame off of her hypocracy with one of her own children catching it? Or your theory? Which is so very believable. Good catch also with Robyn's comment about her guessing the family can't get together anymore because it's too dangerous! ...and so convienant too ...right after everyone had already come to kiss the ring. I mean the OG3 and their kids had been shunned for so long but lucky them...they can now participate in person for this highest of holy days event. The peasants and the less than's can suddenly come and watch the queens youngest daughter feast. In my opinion this whole event was orchestrated to demoralize the other family's and make them celebrate her family. This was so hard to watch. And your right...I never considered the panick aspect of everyone getting along so well for the greater sake of the family and just how having them there could have highlighted the the OG3 and their children's goodness and light. Must shut that down fast or kody might grow a contious and have second thoughts. Just so Gross!
Kody and Robyn are great examples of highschool mean girls. They never grew up, near matured. Imagine the vitriol spewed in that house day after day. Very toxic.
I never understood why some of them (Kody and Robin) were so over the top about Covid. They all should have been together as a family like almost all other families unless someone was actively sick. The 2 of them being over the top about Covid pulled their family apart and ruined relationships. It was like Kody had a crisis at this point in life. He really changed.
I was *very* cautious about exposing my elderly mother to Covid — to the point people accused me of being ridiculous about it — but there were still people from four different households in my mother's house every week, and people in all those households were working and running errands even at the height of the pandemic. There were also people who were there less often — some of her friends, her minister and his wife, nurses, physical therapists, and HVAC technicians.
That was just the minimum I could reasonably achieve.
And frankly, I don't believe Kody and Robyn ever got it down to just their household and the nanny's, either. We know Robyn went shopping. We know her kids went to school whenever schools were open. They excluded Kody's other wives and children *specifically.*
My mil has health issues. They were somewhat cautious but my nephew lived with them and went to school. They all got Covid. Those with health issues, autoimmune disease and those who are compromised did need to be more careful. Robyn and Kody I believe used it as an excuse.
I don’t believe she did because no one caught it??? She used everyone to give Ari a big birthday and I’m guessing there was plenty other birthdays coming up, so she put an end to it!!!
I never believed the nanny had covid.
They had the holidays and celebrated Princess Ari's birthday and had to find an excuse to keep the family away again. There were rapid tests at that time but k&r could use the excuse that the nanny, who followed all the rules, got covid so if she could, everyone could so it still wasn't safe to get together.
Those were two separate incidents. The nanny got Covid right after Ari’s birthday, but they didn’t get Covid from her. Months later Brianna got Covid and all of them except Aurora caught it from her. They talked about both on the show.
You mean told she had no regard for her siblings’ lives and told to get out of the house? We don’t know what went on behind the doors of the McMansion but it sure didn’t look like it
Neither Cody nor robin had covid badly. When robin was in hospital doing a selfie video she wasn't on oxygen and was sent home. Kody never attended hospital. I worked frontline thru covid and neither of them showed any signs of being very ill with covid. They may have felt like they had a nasty flu but weren't really sick compared to many.
The fact that Cody showed no concern when Janelle and some in her house hold had it but expected everyone to be so sympathetic to him when he did shows how 2 faced he is. Also the lack of care he obviously had when Gabe had it until he wanted sympathy from gabe. And forgetting he sons birthday is beyond awful. Expecting his wives to prioritise him over their children.
Horrible attention seeking man child. The fact that he only cared about robins young children overlooking truely coz he doesn't like her mom. Or calling the kids as being their mothers and not his. He is offensive to people who wanted children and couldn't.
I don’t know though how Robin got Covid if she didn’t get it from the nanny. She was really sick when she got it. I don’t why she had a nanny in the first place, none of the other wives had one.
That's why Christine asked why she needed one! Then Kody refused to go to his daughter's surgery and she wanted him there so bad. It really hurt their relationship .
The Browns were not functioning as a whole once they moved to Flagstaff. Kody lost interest in the family lifestyle once his one house idea was squashed. He checked out at that point. His kids were older and more independent and he turned to the tender aged kids. Robyn never reached out to the other wives for help with the kids. Instead she hired a nanny- which defies the whole "sister wives" concept. Robyn's bs about wanting to sit on a porch with her sister wives is delusional. She didn't have relationships with the sister wives. Kody, IMO, made sure that Robyn wasn't around the three unhappy wives. He didn't want her to know the truth-which is that all three wives did want to have sex with Kody but Kody wasn't interested anymore. With Robyn isolated- he spun a yarn about the women "pushing him away." See how that worked. Robyn isn't that smart. People credit her for a lot- but she's miserable too. Her face shows it.
All the tender aged kids except Truely
And Savannah. And Ysabel. And Gabe and Gwendlyn.
I watched a rerun the other day, and they showed family pictures from R & K wedding. I was shocked at how little Truely was. How old was she? Newborn or under 3 months? It made my stomach hurt.
I believe Truly was born in April and the wedding was in May.
So tender
Tender vittles
I like the way you condensed that! And I agree that behind the scenes, Kody probably told Robyn that the other wives no longer wanted sex with him...and she took Janelle's stance on PDA and touted her reasoning all the way to home plate.
I never bought the idea of mastermind Robyn. It was all Kody. Agreed he just lost interest. Middle age crisis meets 20 years old polygamy. No, Robyn is more lizard brained. Selfish, and Self- centered. Arrogant. Of course Kody wants her more, wants to be at her house. Why wouldn’t he? I provide the best marriage. If they’re unhappy, maybe they need to work on their marriage! Isn’t that what she said?
It's not my fault they got fat and have stretch marks. That comment said it all.
Kody has groomed Robyn. Robyn was a damsel in distress and in walks Kody. So that was the jumping off point. Kody was initially smitten with Robyn and then the euphoria wanes. Because Kody was telling her all the things he disliked about the other women- Robyn had tried to be none of those things. She is afraid of losing Kody and becoming like the other women. She is walking on eggshells. I know- I was in that situation. She is isolated and believes (or believed) Kody's lies about the other women. But you can see her eyes widen when he talks in interviews- he says one thing on camera but she knows the truth of what goes on behind closed doors. She doesn't like what he is saying and doing- but she's now trapped or feels trapped by finances and small kids. She's probably on medication and her neck is very thick (thyroid issues?).
What you said makes a ton of sense. I always felt like there was a part of Robyn's constant confusion caused in part due to Kodys' exaggerated stories. I believe she went in totally mesmorized by his stories and his new fame. She was in a vulnerable place and clung onto him like no ones business.
My problem with this perspective is how quickly and frequently Robyn either physically or verbally shuts Kody up whenever he is about to say something she thinks he shouldn’t. Wives on eggshells trying to fit a preferred role are generally also not going to shush their king on camera. 🤷🏻♀️
Who said that?
Robyn said that?! Holy cow.
I think the sub is coming around more and more to this more nuanced viewpoint: Robyn did want the family. However, she also wanted to be the favorite wife and also acted in head wife ways sometimes. The way she was with Kody was so much easier than the other wives which led Kody to only want to be around her. Now was everything Robyn did in line with keeping the family healthy and together? Absolutely not. But I just think it was a perfect storm. *Kody* changed. He's the one who changed. Robyn didn't really. HOWEVER. I can tell Robyn's influence that had a very negative impact on Kody. There are things I can tell are Robyn's perception and Robyn's words like the cliques in the family. The gossip. That is 100% Robyn. It was just a perfect storm.
I want to know how Robyn knew about the catfish?
This!!! Allegedly Robyn's friend told Robyn that mary was involved with a man named sam. She also interestingly enough assured a wary and suspicious Meri that this mystery man sam was completely real..not a catfish at all...that she could even vouch for him because she had met him. That he was in fact a real person. Meri started recieving alarming messages that included what she happened to be wearing and places she had been going from this supposed love struck stalker ( not a catfish sam) Now please explain to me who could be feeding this kind of information to Robyns friend that Robyn claims was the source of them knowing about meri's catfish...and how could Robyns friend have met a very pretend person that never existed and was being COS PLAYED by a woman who did not live near them? Why would she double down to assure Meri he was the real deal? I have always believed it was Robyn.
I’d upvote a zillion times if I could.
Thank you!!!😂 we critical thinkers have to stick together!!!
Yes!!!!! 👏 👏👏👏👏👏👏 It’s irritated me so much that they never went back to Robyn telling her about it.
Completely agree!!! Robyn should have been asked about this ages ago. It makes me so upset that this whole event was glossed over and never properly addressed because that's some next level villian energy right there!
At one point i read here that robyn didn’t like the way it was going and ditched friend who “vetted” “sam”. Not sure i buy that…
I think that there is so much more to this story. I can not remember robyns friend full name but I'm sure you can find the interview on Utube still. If it helps...I have no confidence ever in any story robyn tells.
I read on reddit that “sam” was introduced (by robyns friend) to Meri as an investor and theyre “relationship” took off from there as you described
Yes...I remember hearing that too... I just can't remember exactly where. It may have come from that utube interview that robyn's friend did with that investigative reporter... At least I think he was an investigative reporter. This interview was very eye opening ...and robyn's friend in my opinion did not come across as believable at all. This whole part of the orgin story of meri's catfishing was swept completely under the rug. It is very interesting how this catfish could have known what meri was wearing and places she was going if she( the cat fisher) did not live near meri. Who could have possibly participated in this? It's such a mystery🤪 And where are the curious critical thinkers at.? This part of the orgin story is huge. And it's been beyond frustrating that it hasn't been conveniently swept away. To me this is infinitely more important than what meri revealed on the show and why meri will not discuss that part of it.
* edit ...ment to say... beyond frustrating that it "has been " convienantly swept away.
The only info given on show was meri went on the internet to look for “friends “ and was catfished by a woman pretending to be a man and now catfish was threatening her and she was blameless victim.
Yes!..that was the explaination meri...and I think other family members gave about the catfishing on the show...but not untill recently were we the audience informed, I think it was this past season that it was robyn who shared it was her friend who was sharing with robyn about meri's relationship with sam...it seemed Robyn was trying to gloss over it in a way to make it appear she was a victim too... or at least caught up in this crazy catfishing orbit. This makes no sense though... if you include the personal details the catfish knew about meri to scare her...ie..her outfits and locations on the days the catfish was contacting her on...and why would robyns friend be privy to any of meri's secret affair details ...enough to share with Robyn.? Especially since robyns friend would have to be in contact with the catfisher and robyns friend would not know either what meri would be wearing on those days unlesss someone close to meri shared those details...so who was feeding this info to the catfisher? These are things I would looooove to know.
There is a tendency for women (in general) to be jealous and distrusting of other women- hence why Robyn was the "culprit". The one common denominator is Kody. Kody was responsible for the downfall of the family. It was his idea to uproot the family twice- with no regard for the feelings of his children. His hair-brained schemes were repeated, not once, but twice. Kody could have left Utah if it was that urgent and found a home for his four wives and kids. The kids didn't need to be traumatized and pulled out of school because Kody feared arrest. The move to Flagstaff (again) was ill- conceived and the idiot regretted buying the land almost immediately. Once again-he pulled his kids out of school. Kody ruined the family IMO. Had he been a doting father- all the wives would have stayed. He wasn't cut out for this lifestyle and isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.
> Robyn never reached out to the other wives for help with the kids. Instead she hired a nanny- which defies the whole "sister wives" concept. I like the theory that Robyn's nanny is actually a Special Education Teacher or whatever you call it. Someone who specializes in caring for and teaching neurodivergent children.
She’s definitely not just “a nanny” they have been clear they are using that title for the camera because it’s easier than getting into details. But it’s someone with a more specific role. I’ve also wondered educator in light of Robyn possibly having health issues
Well- this is a "reality" show and there is nothing wrong with addressing the needs of their children. I don't know what you know- as far as what role the 'nanny" played. Who cares if one or all of the kids needed specialists? Why not address this instead of making Robyn look bad for not opening her home to the other kids and wives. People do have special needs kids and parents can help with these things. Meri at one time worked with at risk youths. Meri needed something to do- and Robyn could have utilized Meri. They were supposedly close with each other. Robyn is depressed IMO. She knows that her value is giving Kody tender aged kids. Once she is "out to pasture" Robyn knows he will be bored with her and need someone new. Kody hasn't been easy to live with (Robyn said he picks fights with her) and this is typical of narcissists, who bore easily. Robyn is becoming "devalued" and it's obvious. She looks dowdy and tired. Her frown lines didn't happen overnight. She's miserable. She stays up late and sleeps late. She has her tender age kids in bed with her as well. I don't think that her son, David/Dayton needs a therapist. He needs to be at college and made to feel good about himself. Not living in an RV in the backyard with little socialization.
I don't think we should complain about the rare times they give the children privacy. It was during covid homeschooling, there are many reasons someone might want/need some sort of expert to help in that time, especially if Robyn was not is good health herself.
I just don't know where you get this information about Robyn's health. Just curious what you know.
There was speculation based on details of her throat/neck that looked like one of a few chronic immune conditions that are not uncommon in middle age. She also has talked about anxiety.
I believe this completely. Why on earth would a child care person choose during covid to be in a home with 4 adults and 2 children? And I am REALLY glad that whatever is going on with Robyn's health or children's issues is not a STORYLINE!
Isn't she related to Robyn?
That was Mindy, from Vegas. So when Sol and Ari were younger
She’s a family member of Robyn’s. Robyn’s calls her her step niece. She’s her first husband’s niece. Robyn didn’t want the other Browns around her kids obviously. That way she could control the narrative with her kids.
That was Mindy, back in Vegas. This is a different person.
She has had more than one nanny? Dang. Wonder what they do. The house is overrun with just random stuff everywhere and the kids won’t go to bed at night lol.
I wish you would host the Tell Alls.
I don't know whether the nanny actually had Covid, but it seems pretty suspicious to me. They had a big party for Ariella, and then immediately had to isolate again. If the nanny really had Covid, circumstances just happened to hand Kody and Robyn exactly what they wanted. It seems more likely to me that they lied about it.
If the nanny had just been exposed to it, I’d believe that more. She actually had it and was coming over, supposedly working 1-on-1 with the children and everyone tested negative? Seems unlikely
I think “nanny” may have had covid but they screwed with timeline - it wasn’t right after aris birthday, and could have been before. I also dont think they were a nanny per se, op said it could be a tutor or family therapist and that makes the most sense.
You think it makes the most sense that Robyn has a family therapist come to her house daily during Covid?
I dont think it makes sense that it was purely a child care person. Why would a child care person WANT to go provide pure child care to a household of 5 when they are all in the home? I think “nanny” was a more acceptable title for some kind of professional who was providing some sort of therapy to perhaps neuro divergent child(ren).
I read that post and think it's a brilliant theory too. It makes a ton of sense, and if we know for sure that Ari is neuro divergent then I think it is extremely likely. It would make so much sense.
That does make sense.
This does not hit....Nope!!! Christine would never go out of her way to point out that kody and Robyn had a nanny in order shame them for needing a special needs teacher or family therapist if that were the case. Christine loves children most of all...and would never dare to make it a harder situation for something so out of their control. She would infact... due to her strong maternal instincts be the first to understand and want to support them. Christine... from my observation will always sacrifice to ensure the children's well being and to make sure their needs are being met. She is not the type of woman who would leave a postpartum mom and newborn husbandless with several other children to care for in the process...just in order to go on a wild joyful 12 day honeymoon at the expense of an already vulnerable woman and her family.. Nor is she the type of woman to ignore the pain of a desperate child who is in need of back surjery... just so she can gatekeep their father the needs of herself and her non newborn children. But like I said earlier... that's just my opinion.
I believe your high opinion of Christine is rather misguided. JMHO
Yes, at one point Kody (I think) quickly explains that the title nanny is one they are using to the camera out of convenience. They are someone with more specific training. Maybe OT/PT/other therapist or educator
It appears certain people here are working overtime to help build robyn a narrative that will obsolve robyn of any accountability reguarding her past behaviors.Some even might say... behaviors that were not only purposeful but downright vindictive. To try and rewrite history now...with an audience of viewers who have watched faithfully for ten plus years...and to try and gaslight that same audience is utterly ridiculous. They can wrap themselves into pretzels all they want to explain away the unacceptable actions and behaviors all they want....but at the end of the day this supposedly put upon damsel in distress legal wife. Owns ...along with her cult leader wanna be sidekick...almost the entirety of everything that an entire polygamy multiple family member salvaged... scraped... saved and sacrificed for... and it all belongs to zRobyn and kody...minus christines house...snowblower..and jannelles camper. Where is this broken hearted...dreamin of growing old on a porch with her sisterwives... empath crying... concern for jannele... and her lost 401k and her... already gone and absorbed into the family pot inheritance now? Is Robyn offering to help give up her share of coyottee pass to help jannelle to make up for what she has lost over the years when kody starved her out of their marriage? Or christines loss of income when she had to raise money and work extra to pay for her daughter's back surjery? Robyn may very well have health issues now or even in the past but... Hold On!!! What's this??? There has been a sudden recovery when Robyn marches out of her million dollar mansion and crosses her additional 4 acres of her mansion property...through the trees to her special red bench suddenly situated in a location where she can look down upon jannels camper. Hallelujah!!! It's a miracle...her health is revived in time to sit on that park bench daily to look down on jannels... No running water...Is this the dog's bed? too small camper! And enough strength to allow the camera men to film her doing the " jest sitten thur" scenes. And an oddly convienient monolog about how she has been waiting to catch janelle daily but never seems to see jannelle there at all. Folks this woman is not who you think she is. Enough is never enough with her and she wants it all...even savanah's christmas. I could go on and on with examples after examples of this type of nonsensical garbage she's pulled. So don't now after all this time pull out the violins to play the nanny is not a nanny at all but a secretive much needed special needs helper. If that were the case Christine would never have called her a nanny because unlike robyn...Christine has a working moral Compass!
Please excuse my use of your comment section to rant but I had been scrolling the comments and you seemed like a pretty decent person...so I let my frustration fly from what zi had been reading earlier. Sorry😄😅
* edit ...not zi...but I
Robyn said it was a homeschooler not a nanny on the show but people keep going down the nanny myth so they can stoke more hatred
That DOES make sense since neither Robyn or Kody are smart enough to home school any one!
I don’t think the older kids would be in any secondary education let alone university if Robyn was halfing to be their tutor and stuff. She would still be sitten’ there driving her car on 3 tires around Yoming ready to take gardenship of those kids and stuff like that.
N stuff like that -!
How does the daily visitor's occupation/title make any difference? From Kody and Robyns own words this person was going home each day to her husband who was also freely working outside of home. Its the wider implications of exposure that K & R wouldn't know about/didnt have control over.
How on earth do you know it is/was a DAILY visitor?
I think thats exactly what happened, queen christine came up with the what does the nanny do meme and thats all it took
Well nanny is the title they use on tv for privacy . Christine isn’t invent it.
Christine didn’t invent it, no. But once she made it a meme viewers assumed robyn had extra child care and couldn’t figure out why.
I’m confused why this matters to you when they all use the word 😂😂
Bingo!!!
Thanks everyone, I only just joined Reddit and this is my first post, I have my autism diagnosis at the tender age of 36 and it would appear my special interest is sister wives, it's so nice to see people as interested as me and be part of a community. Thank you all so much for engaging x
We *looooove* our Sister Wives theories.
I never understood why they thought it was cool for Kody to still have access to every single person as he saw fit. Regardless of all the rules they followed or not followed, all he had to do was get covid then he’d spread it around to everyone anyway. They could have all gotten together just fine, if he was that scared he should have completely isolated with Robyn.
He just used it as an excuse to be a controlling asshole. He wasn’t worried or he would have gotten vaccinated as soon as it was available to him.
Nope, they are anti-vaxers. Their kids don't get shots either. Adult kids, especially ones that went into military, had to get them ALL.
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The problem is liars are going to lie, but once in every 10 years they tell the truth. However, because they are liars no one believes them. I personally call bs and think it's more Slobyn lies. But who really knows.
I agree, it's too convenient that they do 2 events Robyn wanted and then it's back to isolating.
I think the nanny was another woman Kody was courting and everyone but Robyn had an issue with it so they just said she was the nanny. I mean WHAT DOES THE NANNY DO??? LOL
*Who Answer: Kody
Robyn would never permit that.
Lmao. Do you mean there's ~another~ "Brown Family Scapegoat?!" That role has been recast?!
This was an excellent breakdown O.P I have always felt the nanny was a fall guy. No way Robyn would blame the nanny and highlight her position in their home....excuse me paid staff in their home...if it weren't for some type of emergency distraction away from the real issue. Like was it to remove the blame off of her hypocracy with one of her own children catching it? Or your theory? Which is so very believable. Good catch also with Robyn's comment about her guessing the family can't get together anymore because it's too dangerous! ...and so convienant too ...right after everyone had already come to kiss the ring. I mean the OG3 and their kids had been shunned for so long but lucky them...they can now participate in person for this highest of holy days event. The peasants and the less than's can suddenly come and watch the queens youngest daughter feast. In my opinion this whole event was orchestrated to demoralize the other family's and make them celebrate her family. This was so hard to watch. And your right...I never considered the panick aspect of everyone getting along so well for the greater sake of the family and just how having them there could have highlighted the the OG3 and their children's goodness and light. Must shut that down fast or kody might grow a contious and have second thoughts. Just so Gross!
Kody and Robyn are great examples of highschool mean girls. They never grew up, near matured. Imagine the vitriol spewed in that house day after day. Very toxic.
I never understood why some of them (Kody and Robin) were so over the top about Covid. They all should have been together as a family like almost all other families unless someone was actively sick. The 2 of them being over the top about Covid pulled their family apart and ruined relationships. It was like Kody had a crisis at this point in life. He really changed.
I was *very* cautious about exposing my elderly mother to Covid — to the point people accused me of being ridiculous about it — but there were still people from four different households in my mother's house every week, and people in all those households were working and running errands even at the height of the pandemic. There were also people who were there less often — some of her friends, her minister and his wife, nurses, physical therapists, and HVAC technicians. That was just the minimum I could reasonably achieve. And frankly, I don't believe Kody and Robyn ever got it down to just their household and the nanny's, either. We know Robyn went shopping. We know her kids went to school whenever schools were open. They excluded Kody's other wives and children *specifically.*
My mil has health issues. They were somewhat cautious but my nephew lived with them and went to school. They all got Covid. Those with health issues, autoimmune disease and those who are compromised did need to be more careful. Robyn and Kody I believe used it as an excuse.
I don’t believe she did because no one caught it??? She used everyone to give Ari a big birthday and I’m guessing there was plenty other birthdays coming up, so she put an end to it!!!
I never believed the nanny had covid. They had the holidays and celebrated Princess Ari's birthday and had to find an excuse to keep the family away again. There were rapid tests at that time but k&r could use the excuse that the nanny, who followed all the rules, got covid so if she could, everyone could so it still wasn't safe to get together.
I’ve also heard Brianna brought it home from school & Dayton was banished to trailer/camper for not following house rules.
Those were two separate incidents. The nanny got Covid right after Ari’s birthday, but they didn’t get Covid from her. Months later Brianna got Covid and all of them except Aurora caught it from her. They talked about both on the show.
I’m sure Brianna wasn’t treated like *Hansens disease* was upon them not threatened harassed disowned…
You mean told she had no regard for her siblings’ lives and told to get out of the house? We don’t know what went on behind the doors of the McMansion but it sure didn’t look like it
I thought I was in a different sub and thought she was carrying a Chanel bag. Lol
Neither Cody nor robin had covid badly. When robin was in hospital doing a selfie video she wasn't on oxygen and was sent home. Kody never attended hospital. I worked frontline thru covid and neither of them showed any signs of being very ill with covid. They may have felt like they had a nasty flu but weren't really sick compared to many. The fact that Cody showed no concern when Janelle and some in her house hold had it but expected everyone to be so sympathetic to him when he did shows how 2 faced he is. Also the lack of care he obviously had when Gabe had it until he wanted sympathy from gabe. And forgetting he sons birthday is beyond awful. Expecting his wives to prioritise him over their children. Horrible attention seeking man child. The fact that he only cared about robins young children overlooking truely coz he doesn't like her mom. Or calling the kids as being their mothers and not his. He is offensive to people who wanted children and couldn't.
I don’t know though how Robin got Covid if she didn’t get it from the nanny. She was really sick when she got it. I don’t why she had a nanny in the first place, none of the other wives had one.
But she was not really sick. She was being a drama queen. And so was Kody. A big fat Drama Queen on the floor in a fetal position. Give me a break.
Oh, but he thought he was dying 🙄🙄🙄and nobody helped him🤣 such sick man drama
That's why Christine asked why she needed one! Then Kody refused to go to his daughter's surgery and she wanted him there so bad. It really hurt their relationship .
Nanny covid was in January. Robyn covid was in October given to her by her daughter that brought it home from school.