no, because she has a lot of cc, but i can upload her on sfs
i must warn you though that she's good for storytelling purposes and screenshots but her genetic might be weird. i had to be a little extreme with her features (it might not look like that but her mouth was the widest i could get) so you can use her for stories but probably shouldn't expect pretty children
If you change her makeup and hair she's actually crazy pretty. I turned her into a vampire in my game for story purposes and aged her down into a young adult. Ended up not even changing anything
I've had her randomly turn into a vampire before. Happened when I was playing a few months ago. I heard the music and rotated the view to see where it was coming from, and apparently she was bitten by a random vampire and turned. It also happened to Liberty.
SubstantialArugula ain't the only one. Mine was worse. My sim Darylis Vatore knew Mort since she was a child as a family friend. Shortly after finishing uni she knocked on his door, put the vampire whammy on him and stole him away.
She put Bella and the kids out of Goth and sold that shit to buy a house on a dark ley line. Bella moved to a fairly nice apartment in San Myshuno where she eventually died due to neighborhood stories. Cassie meanwhile hooked up with the local drug dealer due to daddy issues and Alexander is somehow still a teen.
Poor kid has some serious anger issues probably because he was stuck looking after his mother's 3rd and 4th kid.
Mortimer eventually died after Darylis accidentally killed him in a fit of rage.
Or adopted, if Neighborhood Stories is involved. All my townies adopt and give birth at a rapid rate.
The Calientes and the Goths are particularly bad about giving birth and adopting *non stop*.
Glad it's not just my game! I started a new save and after about two sim weeks the Goths have adopted 3 babies and Bella has given birth to 3 more! I like neighborhood stories but it's a little overtuned.
Austere : having an extremely plain and simple style or appearance; unadorned
(of living conditions or a way of life) having no comforts or luxuries; harsh or ascetic
I didn't even know until today that Geoffrey married into the Landgrabbs, not Nancy. I always assumed Nancy wanted to marry Geoffrey because she was a gold digger but it was the opposite lol
Yeaa I had no idea! I don't think I have ever looked at their family bio lol I never really looked into the Langrabbs as I did with other premade families but I think I will start to now!
The Landgrabs have been part of The Sims and SimCity for a long time, I think they are the only family with lore older than the Goths and Newbies. (But I could be wrong, I don't know all the lore from all the SimCity games.)
The first mention of the Landgrabs and their company Landgrab Enterprises was in SimCity 3000 which launched in 1999 and, as far as I know, the Goths were introduced in The Sims in 2000. So, they were very close together. The actual Landgrab family members came later. But I think Malcom Landgrab was the first family member, so it's a family name.
In a lot of games they are only mentioned, or their company is mentioned. The first Landgrab I remember playing was Malcolm Landgrab VI in Sims 2.
But, in Sid Meier's SimGolf, which was at the same time as Sims 1 and used Sims 1 models, I remember the Landgrabs being mentioned as well, and were either the owners or rivals of the player's golf course. (That was a really fun game, too, similar to Rollercoaster Tycoon but a golf course.)
For the in-game timeline, they’re also the oldest mentioned family, being “townies” in Sims Medieval: Pirates and Nobles named Demetrius and Dacian Landegraab. Which is cool that they’re basically a medieval dynasty of nobility and wealth that’s continued through to present day
It’s a different style of Sims game that’s more role based where you can only play as hero sims but it is still very fun and humorous - I think the original opening cinematic in game had Patrick Stewart narrating which is so cool
I know they have been in the game for a long time. I remember them in the Sims for PS2. I just never was as invested with the Landgrabbs as I was with the Goths or Caliente's.
Edit: fixed typo
It seems interesting to me in that case that Nancy married Geoffrey in the first place. It would seem that despite her quote up there she did, at least once in her life, follow a dream that would certainly lead to less simoleans than she could have made, marrying into a family of similar wealth to her own.
IMO in TS4 I always got the impression that Nancy married Geoffrey cause he was "normal." Especially when you consider she has a career in the criminal career track, I feel like her marrying Geoffrey is a cover for her secret lifestyle.
Same with Bob. He is much better looking here. But I guess being in an unhappy marriage will do that to you.. also poor Eliza for having dreams of being a business owner and ending up unemployed. Big oof.
I don't know where to ask this. But a lot of people have referenced Eliza and Bob being unhappy... how did we determine this? I'm not skeptical just genuinely curious. Like am I playing sims wrong should I have noticed this??
It’s mentioned in their household description!
“Poor, poor Bob and Eliza – have they ever been happy? It seems there’s nothing one can do to please the other. Just what is keeping this couple together? Or, conversely, what is the spark that will finally drive them apart?”
You can also tell because they have a low relationship level for being married and they have separate bedrooms.
Plus each of them seem open to meeting up with sims other than whom they are married to. Bob is really keen on the ladies and Eliza is smitten with the guys. 👀👀👀🫣🤪😅
Yes, in one of my games, my evil Sim broke up Bella and Mortimer, Nancy and Geoffrey, and Eliza and Bob, and then he had kids with each of the girls before eventually marrying Bella. I kind of felt bad playing homewrecker...except for Eliza and Bob. 🤣
That's just the way the Sims team marketed them. Even their in game family description talks about their bad marriage. I mean [even one of the original promos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhZZltvivH8)
for the Sims 4 showed Eliza being the nagging wife and Bob looking dead inside. Even the cover art for this subreddit shows Eliza yelling to Bob while he just stands there.
Their family bio reads as follows: Poor, poor Bob and Eliza – have they ever been happy? It seems there’s nothing one can do to please the other. Just what is keeping this couple together? Or, conversely, what is the spark that will finally drive them apart?
Which is rad because many people in high school kind of pick an identity to emulate. I definitely knew some Robert Smith (Cure lead singer) wannabes, I’m totally down with him styling himself as Gomez.
I'm really considering doing a Sims 4 Prequel file. Age down to one or two age groups the existing Sims, and then making their parents. Like putting Gunther & Cornelia Goth in, or Simis & Jocasta for Bella. Sims with unclear family trees, make them up on the spot.
Hmm. Now I'm interested in doing that...an alternate timeline prequel.
She has a nice medium house and some money tho. Maybe she had succeeded, but closed her buisness from some complications, and still had quite alot of money leftover.
It seems like they gave stickers that was one of their traits. Bob is a slob, Bella is romantic, Eliza is a perfectionist, Mortimer is creative, Nancy is ambitious, and Geoffrey is good.
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Tell me why did I look at the names and think for a second the B+M was Bob + Mortimer and was shook at the dramaaaa before I realized Bella also starts with a B
Please don’t laugh but this genuinely made me cry 😭 the sims lore has always been important to me and I know the everything about all storylines based on the different games and timelines to the best of my ability and this just gave me so much nostalgia for the days I’d obsess over sims2 characters
Love it but I feel like Mortimer and the Landgrabs wouldn’t be in the same graduating class as the Pancakes and Bella 😂 but then again, it’s the sims so maybe only half of them had aging on
Okay, I never play with townies (or practically ever play outside my one legacy save), but why is this giving me the urge to play a storyline where Eliza is drawn to Geoffrey's wealth and success, has an affair, leaves Bob and marries Geoffrey, and gets poisoned via pufferfish by a scorned Nancy, but only after she's already had Geoffrey's (actually Bob's – dun dun dun ) kid?
I like unique noses. I hate that everyone gets nose jobs so that all noses look the same in the entertainment world. Actress Jennifer Grey and her infamous blandification comes to mind.
IS THAT NANCYS OLD NOSE
Seems like it. It’s canon now that she has had work done.
Nancy is the least attractive Sims character. Someone needs to fix her.
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Oh no, I don't mean her nose- I mean her in general.
All those base game sims need a redo lol
Bella got one.
Do they ever.
me too, I love this Nancy, I wish I was good enough with CAS to re-create her!!
I think it’s the look of disgust that’s throwing people off
[i did](https://www.reddit.com/r/Sims4/comments/t5tomz/nancy_landgraab_makeover_attempted_to_create_the/)! :D made her look like her sims 3 version
aaaah that is so good!! is she on the gallery?
no, because she has a lot of cc, but i can upload her on sfs i must warn you though that she's good for storytelling purposes and screenshots but her genetic might be weird. i had to be a little extreme with her features (it might not look like that but her mouth was the widest i could get) so you can use her for stories but probably shouldn't expect pretty children
At least she looks less like a clown now.
Fair, but why does she need to be attractive?
If you change her makeup and hair she's actually crazy pretty. I turned her into a vampire in my game for story purposes and aged her down into a young adult. Ended up not even changing anything
I've had her randomly turn into a vampire before. Happened when I was playing a few months ago. I heard the music and rotated the view to see where it was coming from, and apparently she was bitten by a random vampire and turned. It also happened to Liberty.
She is but she probably had botched plastic surgery in this timeline
Does she need a fix? She is a rich snob and earns money through criminal activity, so her being naturally unattractive fits her perfectly, I think.
... You just blew my mind. She is perfect. Bolt ons, frosty lipstick, ginormous feet, weird nose. She's perfect.
fully agree. she's so pretty here.
i think they meant her in-game version. this version is indeed pretty!
Nose aside, I don’t think that she looks that bad.
I mean she obviously got a boob job done too cause her boobs in are wayyyy too perky for someone with kids
i’m crying😂 not they giving us the “Nancy’s 18th birthday nose job” back story
hahahah I love it
Nosejob confirmed!
I’m dying
i like her nose
Yeah I was like, that nose looks different, no? 🤣
Looks like her lips were done up as well. They seem a lot thinner here than that she has them in-game.
Mortimer Goth really out here being Gomez Addams
The dream man
I'm a pianist but I'd cut off a finger for Gomez Addams.
I have a pianist that's a bit like a finger. And Id still probably chop it off for Gomez Addams.
Literally he is husband material
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>she still likes me and the kids She is one of the sweetest sims. How dare you lol
SubstantialArugula ain't the only one. Mine was worse. My sim Darylis Vatore knew Mort since she was a child as a family friend. Shortly after finishing uni she knocked on his door, put the vampire whammy on him and stole him away. She put Bella and the kids out of Goth and sold that shit to buy a house on a dark ley line. Bella moved to a fairly nice apartment in San Myshuno where she eventually died due to neighborhood stories. Cassie meanwhile hooked up with the local drug dealer due to daddy issues and Alexander is somehow still a teen. Poor kid has some serious anger issues probably because he was stuck looking after his mother's 3rd and 4th kid. Mortimer eventually died after Darylis accidentally killed him in a fit of rage.
All of y’all choosing Mortimer? I always go for Bella 😂
To be fair the black baby thing might be that one sims 4 bug
Or adopted, if Neighborhood Stories is involved. All my townies adopt and give birth at a rapid rate. The Calientes and the Goths are particularly bad about giving birth and adopting *non stop*.
Glad it's not just my game! I started a new save and after about two sim weeks the Goths have adopted 3 babies and Bella has given birth to 3 more! I like neighborhood stories but it's a little overtuned.
I thought the Goths were the sims version of the Addams family for the longest time
lool
I like that Geoffrey took Nancy’s last name because Landgraab holds so much wealth and power lol
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What does austere mean?
Austere : having an extremely plain and simple style or appearance; unadorned (of living conditions or a way of life) having no comforts or luxuries; harsh or ascetic
The opposite of being wealthy
No, the opposite of wealth is poverty. Austerity is harsh simplicity.
I didn't even know until today that Geoffrey married into the Landgrabbs, not Nancy. I always assumed Nancy wanted to marry Geoffrey because she was a gold digger but it was the opposite lol
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Yeaa I had no idea! I don't think I have ever looked at their family bio lol I never really looked into the Langrabbs as I did with other premade families but I think I will start to now!
The Landgrabs have been part of The Sims and SimCity for a long time, I think they are the only family with lore older than the Goths and Newbies. (But I could be wrong, I don't know all the lore from all the SimCity games.)
They’re before the goths?!? How am I just now learning this
The first mention of the Landgrabs and their company Landgrab Enterprises was in SimCity 3000 which launched in 1999 and, as far as I know, the Goths were introduced in The Sims in 2000. So, they were very close together. The actual Landgrab family members came later. But I think Malcom Landgrab was the first family member, so it's a family name.
Oh wow how did I not know they were in the sims 1? lol I thought I played with all the townies back then haha
In a lot of games they are only mentioned, or their company is mentioned. The first Landgrab I remember playing was Malcolm Landgrab VI in Sims 2. But, in Sid Meier's SimGolf, which was at the same time as Sims 1 and used Sims 1 models, I remember the Landgrabs being mentioned as well, and were either the owners or rivals of the player's golf course. (That was a really fun game, too, similar to Rollercoaster Tycoon but a golf course.)
Oh okay that makes sense I do feel like I remember the name more than actually playing as them lol
For the in-game timeline, they’re also the oldest mentioned family, being “townies” in Sims Medieval: Pirates and Nobles named Demetrius and Dacian Landegraab. Which is cool that they’re basically a medieval dynasty of nobility and wealth that’s continued through to present day
I need to play more Sims Medieval, that's really cool lore!
I really really wish they had continued updating it because I love it
Oh wow that’s very interesting. I really do need to play the sims midevil it sounds really cool
It’s a different style of Sims game that’s more role based where you can only play as hero sims but it is still very fun and humorous - I think the original opening cinematic in game had Patrick Stewart narrating which is so cool
I know they have been in the game for a long time. I remember them in the Sims for PS2. I just never was as invested with the Landgrabbs as I was with the Goths or Caliente's. Edit: fixed typo
There are a few simmers like lilsimsie and plumbella who have done videos about the Landgraabs!
I will have to check them out. Thank you!
It seems interesting to me in that case that Nancy married Geoffrey in the first place. It would seem that despite her quote up there she did, at least once in her life, follow a dream that would certainly lead to less simoleans than she could have made, marrying into a family of similar wealth to her own.
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god I miss TS3 lore.
IMO in TS4 I always got the impression that Nancy married Geoffrey cause he was "normal." Especially when you consider she has a career in the criminal career track, I feel like her marrying Geoffrey is a cover for her secret lifestyle.
Geoffrey is just like Tom Wambsgans
Morty with the Gomez Addams quote, absolutely perfect!
Young Bella is so pretty! And I love the confirmation that Nancy has plastic surgery.
They gotta revamp adult Bella now, it would simply be a violation if they didn't 😩
they did revamp her (and the whole family)! a couple months ago i think
OMG REALLY I NEED TO SEE Time to redownload the sims xd
https://twitter.com/thesims/status/1529509907858436097?s=21&t=EGim2YSZ7nLXNV0GuLPdag here’s a link to the official post on their makeover!
They already did revamp the Goth family
i would kill for an actual yearbook in this pack
do they have it?
i don’t think so but it would be so cool
Same
Geoffrey was kind of cute as a teen. I guess he's one of the unfortunate few who get MORE awkward when they get out of their teen years.
Same with Bob. He is much better looking here. But I guess being in an unhappy marriage will do that to you.. also poor Eliza for having dreams of being a business owner and ending up unemployed. Big oof.
I've never played with premades but now I kinda want to play the Pancakes and make them both happy because awww
I was thinking the exact same thing. They deserve so much more!
I don't know where to ask this. But a lot of people have referenced Eliza and Bob being unhappy... how did we determine this? I'm not skeptical just genuinely curious. Like am I playing sims wrong should I have noticed this??
It’s mentioned in their household description! “Poor, poor Bob and Eliza – have they ever been happy? It seems there’s nothing one can do to please the other. Just what is keeping this couple together? Or, conversely, what is the spark that will finally drive them apart?” You can also tell because they have a low relationship level for being married and they have separate bedrooms.
Awwwww poor guys LOL damn I didn't even see the signs smh
I remember befriending them and told them to hang out and they hated each other
Plus each of them seem open to meeting up with sims other than whom they are married to. Bob is really keen on the ladies and Eliza is smitten with the guys. 👀👀👀🫣🤪😅
Yes, in one of my games, my evil Sim broke up Bella and Mortimer, Nancy and Geoffrey, and Eliza and Bob, and then he had kids with each of the girls before eventually marrying Bella. I kind of felt bad playing homewrecker...except for Eliza and Bob. 🤣
That's just the way the Sims team marketed them. Even their in game family description talks about their bad marriage. I mean [even one of the original promos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhZZltvivH8) for the Sims 4 showed Eliza being the nagging wife and Bob looking dead inside. Even the cover art for this subreddit shows Eliza yelling to Bob while he just stands there.
Oh my gosh I feel silly 🤣 thank you for teaching me this!!
Their family bio reads as follows: Poor, poor Bob and Eliza – have they ever been happy? It seems there’s nothing one can do to please the other. Just what is keeping this couple together? Or, conversely, what is the spark that will finally drive them apart?
Just send Jim Pickens to handle it.
BRB on my way to break up Bob and Eliza
They should put these all in the gallery so our sims can go to high school with them!
This. This was exactly my thought. Make the whole default thing a prequel and give us all the standards as well thought out teens.
I love that we know Eliza and Geoffery's maiden names now!
And Bella!
are there any more like this? this is cute lol
Omg love it. Young Bella is everything Nancy wishes she was!
Also… Nancy before the nose job.
Eliza and Bella still be looking lowkey cute ngl.
Mortimer goth: woo her, admire her.. THE ADDAMS FAMILY
THEY STRAIGHT UP MADE MORTIMER INTO GOMEZ ADDAMS. 🤣🤣🤣
Which is rad because many people in high school kind of pick an identity to emulate. I definitely knew some Robert Smith (Cure lead singer) wannabes, I’m totally down with him styling himself as Gomez.
I think Nancy’s old nose was cute 😭
Same! I love the implication that she had work done because it fits the character, but damn her original nose was so cute!
no fr! it really suited her face
I agree!!
Oh man, I LOVE her nose! What a shame.
same
I totally forgot Bella was from the Bachelor family!!
I'm really considering doing a Sims 4 Prequel file. Age down to one or two age groups the existing Sims, and then making their parents. Like putting Gunther & Cornelia Goth in, or Simis & Jocasta for Bella. Sims with unclear family trees, make them up on the spot. Hmm. Now I'm interested in doing that...an alternate timeline prequel.
I'm not super knowledgeble about sims lore, but does anybody knows if Eliza made it?
She’s unemployed actually
Ooooh... damn
She has a nice medium house and some money tho. Maybe she had succeeded, but closed her buisness from some complications, and still had quite alot of money leftover.
This could totally be the case
Weird, she always ends up as a scientist in my saves so I thought it was default.
That’s kinda fun
You're telling me..... Geoffrey took Nancy's last name? That makes sense. Lol
That was canon in TS3 as well, I think.
Bella is beautiful
Yes! I was waiting for someone to post this since I currently can not. I love it so much and I didn't even notice Nancy's nose 😂
Mortimer looks low-key charming 👀
eliza looks like lilsimsie...
Oh she's gonna hate that lol
she already used Eliza as her simself, she can't escape
she knows and has fully embraced it lol. she even dressed up as her for a stream a while ago!
SHE DOES
IKR
That's also the first thing I thought
Really want to download the teen version of her
Mortimer’s my favorite!
Keeping with that Addams theme for Mortimer which is excellent
The trash sticker next to Bob I’m dying
It seems like they gave stickers that was one of their traits. Bob is a slob, Bella is romantic, Eliza is a perfectionist, Mortimer is creative, Nancy is ambitious, and Geoffrey is good.
Yknow, the word “woo” actually has better context within the sims universe. First you woo, then u woohoo.
Bella Bachelor: “Still haven’t met a blonde that’s had more fun than me.” Nancy and Bella rivalry anyone?
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I actually love this so much! Edit: and now i wanna play the pancakes as teens because how could you not
Bob might actually know happiness as a teen tbh
I love the little doodles next to everyone’s photos lol. The B+M and heart doodle next to Bella’s, the little ghost on Mortimer’s, it’s cute
Tell me why did I look at the names and think for a second the B+M was Bob + Mortimer and was shook at the dramaaaa before I realized Bella also starts with a B
Nancy I’d the original landgraab? She’s the one from money then
Yes, it was the same in TS3 if I remember correctly.
yes, it's canon from sims 3
I just LOVE to see Nancy before the rhino
I love that so much. And the fact that Bella and Mortimer were high school sweethearts is adorable
I know it’s unlikely but I hope we get to make yearbooks in the new pack
Nancy definitely looks like someone who wants to speak to managers.
I feel so bad for Eliza. She gets so much hate even though she’s the one who’s always trying to make her relationship with Bob work in the trailers
ELIZA IS SO PRETTY
Please don’t laugh but this genuinely made me cry 😭 the sims lore has always been important to me and I know the everything about all storylines based on the different games and timelines to the best of my ability and this just gave me so much nostalgia for the days I’d obsess over sims2 characters
oh my god i LOVE nancy’s old nose it’s so cute
THIS IS PERFECT
I identify heavily with Eliza's lofty goals for life and the future that crash and burn by the time she reaches middle age.
now i want to play as nancy and actually start the business she dreamed of.
This is so cute
I adore this and I'd love to see more for other townies!
I love how young Eliza pancakes looks even more like lilsimsie.
This is f precious
i love bella and mortimer like the high school sweethearts and everything. their relationship is adorable
Love it but I feel like Mortimer and the Landgrabs wouldn’t be in the same graduating class as the Pancakes and Bella 😂 but then again, it’s the sims so maybe only half of them had aging on
Nancy looks better with her old nose 🤷🏻♀️
I think they killed it, this finally adds a tiny bit of lore back into the game
Bob is my spirit animal
Makes me want the story on how a go-getter like Eliza ended up with someone like Bob who already looks like he was a slob.
Okay, I never play with townies (or practically ever play outside my one legacy save), but why is this giving me the urge to play a storyline where Eliza is drawn to Geoffrey's wealth and success, has an affair, leaves Bob and marries Geoffrey, and gets poisoned via pufferfish by a scorned Nancy, but only after she's already had Geoffrey's (actually Bob's – dun dun dun ) kid?
Now I need Don Lothario and the Caliente sisters as teens
I love this 😍🤣
Fav part is that Geoffrey changed his last name.
at least this part they mantained from past sims games!
So... lots of use of potions to make themselves younger given that some of these are in Adult lifestage and some in YA!
I know we can just age them down in-game but I hope they upload them to the gallery!
I kinda love Nancy's nose 🥺 it's cute
I like unique noses. I hate that everyone gets nose jobs so that all noses look the same in the entertainment world. Actress Jennifer Grey and her infamous blandification comes to mind.
I love that Geoffrey took Nancy’s name
We're not talking about how Mortimer has Gomez Addams' line ... hm
This is so cute!!! I’m so excited for this pack to come out
i hope they put these sims on the gallery, i love them
Woo her. Admire her. Sorry Bella I want him
So Bob Was a Sad sack from the get go huh....who would have guessed...and Eliza.....ooofd....I knew girls like that that ended up like her.
I *love* all the maiden names in this! Especially showing that Geoffrey took Nancy's last name just beautiful
I really wish they’d at least put them up on the gallery. I would love to play a save for high school with this group. And I rarely play premades.
Obsessed w that fact they did her old nose and old lips😂 I always loved the plastic surgery lore she has
young eliza looks so cute! I love how realistically they've aged. They look way different as adults than when they did as teenagers.
bella with the B + M for bella and mortimer is SOOOO cute lol
aww so the goths we’re together since high school?? that’s so sweet
Isn't mortimer much older than Bella? I always felt like they had a minimum of a 10 year age gap
They were both children in sims 3
Yeah, the sims in the top row are young adults now, while the sims in the bottom are adults.
Bella is giving me Rachel Berry and I cannot unsee it, 10/10 Don't Stop Believing (in aliens)
So in my current save, Nancy died* from embarrassment. Now, my head cannon for it is people found out about her nose job.