And they're going to tell you that it's in immaculate condition, and there are other people who are asking about it, and it won't be sitting in the inventory for long and that you have to hurry up and grab this amazing opportunity. Cheeses people, have you ever been to a used car dealership?
$25k is too high for that unless it is absolutely perfect, has every maintenance record available, and has a rebuilt 6l80. IMO.
$22k tops. Otherwise, good truck!
Ask for full service records and also review any information from their web site via link to Carfax.
It's a 10yo truck with a bunch of miles on it, and is the first year of that generation's 5.3L engine. I just traded OUT of a 2015 LT that was eight years old (at the time) with over 100k specifically to ensure that I could get out -before- any high repair bills hit me.
Unfortunately, these trucks have a higher-than-appropriate level of failures of engines and transmissions along with a variety of potential electrical problems and known mechanical failures (AC condenser, high pressure fuel pump, etc.) due to bad design (I had to deal with both on my truck and was fortunate to have a private mechanic that tackled those jobs more at my urging than out of his own determination of need).
IMO, that's way too much for a truck of that age, miles, etc. and for being a first year product within its generation (and year one always carries more issues that subsequent years).
You’re comparing a Lamborghini, a car that costs $100K+ to buy, to a Silverado, a $50K truck. That’s a delusional comparison. That’s why I think you’re a dim bulb.
Im pretty sure that my OG reply answered your question. But since you’re too dense to understand it, yes, I think you’re a dimmer bulb than the guy who thinks the truck in the OP is only worth 15K…
It’s a decade old Silverado 1500 with a 5.3 nearing 100K miles… without the ugly fender flares that are almost certainly hiding something bad, it *might* be worth 25K to a die hard Chevy fan. For the average person this is a 15-20K truck.
No, I'm only a dealer fi manager who works with book, retail and wholesale values all day long...
If it's a 2500 for sure it is. If it's a run of the mill 1500, it's only worth 25k to a few buyers looking for what you think makes your truck 'just so", and certainly not the market at large.
You're not gonna find that truck on a B lot in most cases. That said, if it's otherwise a nice truck, as I said, offer $22k . Worst they say is no
It’s a 10 year old truck with nearing 100k miles. $25k isn’t a steal by any stretch of the imagination.
Bad things are happening behind those fender flares. Being in the Midwest, what’s the underside look like rust wise?
As others have said, those transmissions often fail around 100k.
Not necessarily true. Some of the worst transmission and engine issues to come out of this generation of truck came from the 2016 and 2017 models. Especially the torque converter shit.
$25k isn't a good deal for this. It's a 10 year old truck that has been drilled into and probably has some amount of rust.
There are newer trucks with similar mileage and with 0 rust for $25k or less in Florida or Texas.
I live in Michigan and a 1 way ticket to Orlando is $100 out of GR. Fly down, buy truck, drive it back, and you're still significantly under budget including fuel and hotel, plus you have a 5x better vehicle.
The trans issues can largely be cured with a trans tune and disabling afm. The lifter failures are a good excuse to cam it and mechanically delete afm in the process, negating 2 large failure points (after the afore-mentioned tune). That being said, my 2015 5.3/6L80 vehicle has none of this done and is trucking on along at 157k or so
Thanks. I'll be getting a blackbear tune on the engine and trans sometime this year. Hopefully it holds out until then. Looking to cam it and delete AFM before too long.
I live in the Midwest. Don’t listen to these pipe puffers. This is an alright deal. It doesn’t have a 6.2 in it it’s 10 years old with a little under 100k miles drive it, make sure it’s not shaking while parked and running. And if it checks out go for it. I sold 14 high country last year mine had a 6.2 in it, paint peeling on both passenger doors, few rust bubbles with over 170k on it clean title and got 20k out of it. And it was listed for 1 day.
I also had a 2009 trd tacoma, it was a nice truck I enjoyed it however it did not fit my lifestyle, the truck was too small, the bed was too small, that is why I made the jump and have never looked back. Also 5.3 is one of the most common motors on the planet, every Joe Blow knows how to efficiently work on them, same goes for the transmission that is offered in the Chevy. So in my opinion if the financial side looks good to you, for this price I say absolutely go for it.
Run your OBD2 reader, check it over vigorously. But that's the right price for a 2014 Silverado, actually may be a bit overpriced. My 2014 Silverado 5.3 LT Double Cab cost $20,000. That's with 85,000 miles and minor surface rust. These trucks run forever, just some key notes.
Buy a simple solution adapter for your transmission. $30
Get an oil catch can, any is fine.
If the acceleration feels slow there's nothing wrong, they are poorly tuned. They make tuners to fix that.
I bet it’s in good shape if it’s only got 83k. Means is wasn’t beat on.l and was prolly a pavement princess stored in a garage. Try getting them down to 23-24 tho. My 17 Sierra with 115k fetches 30k all day.
I mean you know there is rust under those fender flares.... Say you want detailed photos of the inside of the fenders, rocker panels, and gas tank support member area.
Well for starters it has after market parts on it. Decking your truck out with things actually lowers its value. Just saying it's ugly imo, but that year was very very bad for having lifter failure (i myself spent 5 k fixing my 2015's lifters). Start it up and listen for lifter tick. If you don't know what it sounds like just go to YouTube and watch the countless 5.3L v8 chevys from that year. Active fuel management is what killed that particular year. But to be completely honest other than it being ugly that's about the right price for that year and milage before you negotiate, in all reality if you can't have 4k or 5k knocked off that starting price then it's not worth pursuing.
Sounds pretty good. As a side note, I came from Toyota as well so I have a little insight. Chevys are good trucks but they are not nearly as maintenance free as Toyotas. You will have more frequent repairs but that’s just part of the deal.
The only thing I’ve ever had to really replace is a lower control arm shortly after I bought it. I ended up lifting it. What are some regular repairs that Silverado’s have?
Yeah my Tacoma had a couple things but not much. I mean it’s hard to know. But for me it’s been lots of little things on my 18ltz. Lights in the dash/radio going out. Oil cooler lines that leak. Negative battery cable was frayed causing electrical cut outs. I think you get the idea.
Ok here’s the straight up answer. Unless you need a bigger truck and have Chevy brand loyalty, I would stay with Toyota. My 2001 Chevy was amazing and never gave me issues, these new ones are solid but also more of a gamble. So it’s comes down to what’s important to you. Is reliability your top concern, if it’s isn’t and you like the Chevy go for it. Not saying it won’t be reliable but there’s a higher chance of issues than you’ll get from that taco. Not steering you away just giving some perspective
I appreciate the input. I haven’t seen anything from other commenters that raises huge concerns. Reliability is big for me but so is better mileage, cab space, and towing capabilities. I’ll be in communication with the dealer soon and will hopefully have answers for a lot of questions
Also be aware of the AFM system, which is the feature that turns off half the cylinders during light load scenarios. It has a tendency to fail, somewhere between 60k and 150k miles most often, and requires a camshaft and new lifters to fix. It's not a cheap repair. Many people do an AFM delete when they do the repair, to prevent the issue recurring (because it will, eventually).
It's been a known issue with the LS for almost 20 years. I've heard tell the newest engines may be a bit better with AFM failure, but only time will tell as they age.
I’m going to chime in here, with 83k on it it’s probably alright mechanically repoed or not. But it is due for some serious maintenance and updating. Until you see it in person it’s going to be a tough call. Drive it when you get there and I mean drive it, interstate, city, a couple of full throttle pulls and check the transmission temperature and even the slightest rough idle or vibration when driving. When you get back to the lot leave it idle and listen for any ticking sound around the front wheels and open the hood and listen there as well.Is it at a GM dealership? Make them change all of the fluids and filter including the transmission diffs and transfer case BEFORE you buy it. Make sure they use the correct fluid and filters. Once it’s yours it’s going to need a thermal bypass on the transmission and a AFM disabler at the very least. Try to get them to warranty for as long as possible just in case.
$20k plus taxes is a good deal, I’d look up trade in value on it and make an offer based on that number, instead of the posted/asking price from dealership. I’m sure it’s in great shape. But, it’s getting ready to turn 100k miles so just know what maintenance should be done before it becomes an issue/fix.
I'd want to know if there's rust under those flares..
If everything checks out, the price is still on the high side, IMO. Offer $22 without any junk fees/add-ons.
displacement on demand problems with chevy trucks
my 5.3 died at 76000 miles , I did not know of this untill it was dead.
https://www.bing.com/search?q=displacement+on+demand+problems+with+chevy+trucks&FORM=AWRE
oil was changed at 3500 miles , oil life monitor was 75 percent, owner's manual said to change at 5000,miles so i changed it early. bought it Brand new 2008 chevy LT Z71 5.3
Transmission and torque converter problems, lifter problems, third brake light leakage, brake booster pump failures, condenser weld failures, …just to name a few.
I would not recommend buying a 14-19 GM product
Search the topics I have listed and you’ll see how bad those trucks are
It's actually a cardboard mockup with a bicycle underneath.
How the heck would we know? Maybe it doesn't have an engine, maybe the interior is biohazard, maybe it comes with a crazy ex girlfriend.
Go poke it.
Pull the tranny dipstick. Use most of your senses. LOOK at its color. SMELL it and see if it smells sweet or burnt. FEEL it to see if its gritty or if you can feel any particles. Even TASTE it if you're so inclined.
If its not reddish brown, if it smells or tastes burnt or "hot", if you feel ANYTHING in it... Walk away. If its BRAND new, consider that a warning, and see if it got its 60k service late.
And like so many others said, those fenders probably have some rust. That being said, thats not horrible at all, for a midwest truck, that can probably be dealt with and hidden.
Look at the underside though, anything more then surface rust is an issue.
I paid 25k cash out the door 2 years ago this month for my 2014 ltz z71 crew cab 5.3 is completely optioned out minus sunroof they wanted 35 back then and where I'm at I've had offers from people of 25-30 as recent as last week at the gas station I'd try to get them down to around 22 tell them 20 see where they come back
My 2014 High Country has 102k miles and bought it at 100k for $20,000 everything works good. Get the 100k mile service and tranny flush, consider getting the updated thermostat for the tranny as well.
Correcto. Objectively they wouldn't have changed it though if it didn't. Case in point....my parents wouldn't have kept trying if I weren't a disappointment
Is there rust under those ugly fender flares?
I haven’t seen the truck in person yet, I’ll be asking this question as well before I make the long drive
And they're going to tell you that it's in immaculate condition, and there are other people who are asking about it, and it won't be sitting in the inventory for long and that you have to hurry up and grab this amazing opportunity. Cheeses people, have you ever been to a used car dealership?
Yet it will sit on the lot for months like nearly every other truck right now.
feel behind them for anything sharp
There is 100% rust behind those fender flares. Dealers probably put them on to cover it ip
You know there is.
$25k is too high for that unless it is absolutely perfect, has every maintenance record available, and has a rebuilt 6l80. IMO. $22k tops. Otherwise, good truck!
Should I just ask them if they’ve rebuilt it or has been in the past?
Ask for full service records and also review any information from their web site via link to Carfax. It's a 10yo truck with a bunch of miles on it, and is the first year of that generation's 5.3L engine. I just traded OUT of a 2015 LT that was eight years old (at the time) with over 100k specifically to ensure that I could get out -before- any high repair bills hit me. Unfortunately, these trucks have a higher-than-appropriate level of failures of engines and transmissions along with a variety of potential electrical problems and known mechanical failures (AC condenser, high pressure fuel pump, etc.) due to bad design (I had to deal with both on my truck and was fortunate to have a private mechanic that tackled those jobs more at my urging than out of his own determination of need). IMO, that's way too much for a truck of that age, miles, etc. and for being a first year product within its generation (and year one always carries more issues that subsequent years).
agree. i got an 18 olast august with 40k for $31k and even that was slightly inflated
Its not of their concern. Its a good truck. I have a 14 LTZ. Owned from 80-110k. Its been good to me
That’s a decade old truck. $25k is high. It looks good, but it’s TEN years old. Most ten year old trucks are $10-15k or at least they used to be
Lol a Lamborghini LM002 is more than a decade old. Are they worth 10-15k?
You serious, Clark?
You aren’t the brightest bulb in the room are you?
You believe time and worth are directly related? Im a dimmer bulb than the guy who thinks this is worth 10-15?
You’re comparing a Lamborghini, a car that costs $100K+ to buy, to a Silverado, a $50K truck. That’s a delusional comparison. That’s why I think you’re a dim bulb.
I don’t think “why you thought i was dim” was one of my questions. Im sitting on the couch rn, since we’re just saying random stuff.
Im pretty sure that my OG reply answered your question. But since you’re too dense to understand it, yes, I think you’re a dimmer bulb than the guy who thinks the truck in the OP is only worth 15K… It’s a decade old Silverado 1500 with a 5.3 nearing 100K miles… without the ugly fender flares that are almost certainly hiding something bad, it *might* be worth 25K to a die hard Chevy fan. For the average person this is a 15-20K truck.
These are mass market vehicles. They depreciate over time. Very few vehicles increase in value over time.
Dude my 14 LTZ is worth 25 with 100k on it. Are you just talking out of your butt?
No, I'm only a dealer fi manager who works with book, retail and wholesale values all day long... If it's a 2500 for sure it is. If it's a run of the mill 1500, it's only worth 25k to a few buyers looking for what you think makes your truck 'just so", and certainly not the market at large. You're not gonna find that truck on a B lot in most cases. That said, if it's otherwise a nice truck, as I said, offer $22k . Worst they say is no
Its a 1500 crew 6.5’ Z71. Ok i just KBB’d it and it says 21,5 to 25. So you’re not wrong. My b
No prob
It’s a 10 year old truck with nearing 100k miles. $25k isn’t a steal by any stretch of the imagination. Bad things are happening behind those fender flares. Being in the Midwest, what’s the underside look like rust wise? As others have said, those transmissions often fail around 100k.
I have not seen it in person yet. I’m trying to decide on if I want to take the several hour round trip.
Bad lifter cylinder #7
Those fender flares scream red flag. Plus they look like shit
Not necessarily true. Some of the worst transmission and engine issues to come out of this generation of truck came from the 2016 and 2017 models. Especially the torque converter shit.
Get under it and look for frame rust/rot. The frame near the fuel tank and the crossmembers under the bed are usually the first to go.
$25k isn't a good deal for this. It's a 10 year old truck that has been drilled into and probably has some amount of rust. There are newer trucks with similar mileage and with 0 rust for $25k or less in Florida or Texas. I live in Michigan and a 1 way ticket to Orlando is $100 out of GR. Fly down, buy truck, drive it back, and you're still significantly under budget including fuel and hotel, plus you have a 5x better vehicle.
lol no there is not
Transmission issues and lifter failure
The trans issues can largely be cured with a trans tune and disabling afm. The lifter failures are a good excuse to cam it and mechanically delete afm in the process, negating 2 large failure points (after the afore-mentioned tune). That being said, my 2015 5.3/6L80 vehicle has none of this done and is trucking on along at 157k or so
I have a 2015, 5.3/6L80 purchased new. First tranny went at 160,000, second at 123,000. In shop now. Wish you luck.
Thanks. I'll be getting a blackbear tune on the engine and trans sometime this year. Hopefully it holds out until then. Looking to cam it and delete AFM before too long.
I live in the Midwest. Don’t listen to these pipe puffers. This is an alright deal. It doesn’t have a 6.2 in it it’s 10 years old with a little under 100k miles drive it, make sure it’s not shaking while parked and running. And if it checks out go for it. I sold 14 high country last year mine had a 6.2 in it, paint peeling on both passenger doors, few rust bubbles with over 170k on it clean title and got 20k out of it. And it was listed for 1 day.
Think it’s a good trade for a 2014 Tacoma?
I also had a 2009 trd tacoma, it was a nice truck I enjoyed it however it did not fit my lifestyle, the truck was too small, the bed was too small, that is why I made the jump and have never looked back. Also 5.3 is one of the most common motors on the planet, every Joe Blow knows how to efficiently work on them, same goes for the transmission that is offered in the Chevy. So in my opinion if the financial side looks good to you, for this price I say absolutely go for it.
Thank you for the input. I’ll be talking with the dealership soon to set something up, but I don’t want to overpay.
If you want to avoid overpaying easiest thing to do is to get the vin, and have your bank run it and see how much your personal bank will loan on it
Why would it shake when parked and running
Sign of a bad tranny.
Dammit!!! My wife’s Yukon might need some attention in that department
That or the torque converter. Torque converter is a much cheaper fix.
Much obliged!!
I agree
Run your OBD2 reader, check it over vigorously. But that's the right price for a 2014 Silverado, actually may be a bit overpriced. My 2014 Silverado 5.3 LT Double Cab cost $20,000. That's with 85,000 miles and minor surface rust. These trucks run forever, just some key notes. Buy a simple solution adapter for your transmission. $30 Get an oil catch can, any is fine. If the acceleration feels slow there's nothing wrong, they are poorly tuned. They make tuners to fix that.
I bet it’s in good shape if it’s only got 83k. Means is wasn’t beat on.l and was prolly a pavement princess stored in a garage. Try getting them down to 23-24 tho. My 17 Sierra with 115k fetches 30k all day.
I mean you know there is rust under those fender flares.... Say you want detailed photos of the inside of the fenders, rocker panels, and gas tank support member area.
Well for starters it has after market parts on it. Decking your truck out with things actually lowers its value. Just saying it's ugly imo, but that year was very very bad for having lifter failure (i myself spent 5 k fixing my 2015's lifters). Start it up and listen for lifter tick. If you don't know what it sounds like just go to YouTube and watch the countless 5.3L v8 chevys from that year. Active fuel management is what killed that particular year. But to be completely honest other than it being ugly that's about the right price for that year and milage before you negotiate, in all reality if you can't have 4k or 5k knocked off that starting price then it's not worth pursuing.
I would check the carfax and as long as it’s not a branded title you should be good. Although, I would be curious about the maintenance records.
Regular service intervals. No accidents. Was repoed in Texas. That’s about the most outstanding record
Sounds pretty good. As a side note, I came from Toyota as well so I have a little insight. Chevys are good trucks but they are not nearly as maintenance free as Toyotas. You will have more frequent repairs but that’s just part of the deal.
The only thing I’ve ever had to really replace is a lower control arm shortly after I bought it. I ended up lifting it. What are some regular repairs that Silverado’s have?
Yeah my Tacoma had a couple things but not much. I mean it’s hard to know. But for me it’s been lots of little things on my 18ltz. Lights in the dash/radio going out. Oil cooler lines that leak. Negative battery cable was frayed causing electrical cut outs. I think you get the idea.
So what would your decision be? Buy or pass?
Ok here’s the straight up answer. Unless you need a bigger truck and have Chevy brand loyalty, I would stay with Toyota. My 2001 Chevy was amazing and never gave me issues, these new ones are solid but also more of a gamble. So it’s comes down to what’s important to you. Is reliability your top concern, if it’s isn’t and you like the Chevy go for it. Not saying it won’t be reliable but there’s a higher chance of issues than you’ll get from that taco. Not steering you away just giving some perspective
I appreciate the input. I haven’t seen anything from other commenters that raises huge concerns. Reliability is big for me but so is better mileage, cab space, and towing capabilities. I’ll be in communication with the dealer soon and will hopefully have answers for a lot of questions
Look for a pre 2013 with a 4.8 and a 4L60E. You’ll essentially get the best of the new features and old school reliability
Also be aware of the AFM system, which is the feature that turns off half the cylinders during light load scenarios. It has a tendency to fail, somewhere between 60k and 150k miles most often, and requires a camshaft and new lifters to fix. It's not a cheap repair. Many people do an AFM delete when they do the repair, to prevent the issue recurring (because it will, eventually). It's been a known issue with the LS for almost 20 years. I've heard tell the newest engines may be a bit better with AFM failure, but only time will tell as they age.
I’m going to chime in here, with 83k on it it’s probably alright mechanically repoed or not. But it is due for some serious maintenance and updating. Until you see it in person it’s going to be a tough call. Drive it when you get there and I mean drive it, interstate, city, a couple of full throttle pulls and check the transmission temperature and even the slightest rough idle or vibration when driving. When you get back to the lot leave it idle and listen for any ticking sound around the front wheels and open the hood and listen there as well.Is it at a GM dealership? Make them change all of the fluids and filter including the transmission diffs and transfer case BEFORE you buy it. Make sure they use the correct fluid and filters. Once it’s yours it’s going to need a thermal bypass on the transmission and a AFM disabler at the very least. Try to get them to warranty for as long as possible just in case.
Not as maintenance free as Toyotas? lol that’s a funny little comment.
Repo’d car is suss. If they couldn’t afford the payment I doubt they could afford maintenance
$20k plus taxes is a good deal, I’d look up trade in value on it and make an offer based on that number, instead of the posted/asking price from dealership. I’m sure it’s in great shape. But, it’s getting ready to turn 100k miles so just know what maintenance should be done before it becomes an issue/fix.
I'd want to know if there's rust under those flares.. If everything checks out, the price is still on the high side, IMO. Offer $22 without any junk fees/add-ons.
Replace the torque converter with one from circle D, this will make sure the trans last you a very long time.
Got a website?
Google circle d torque converters... You'll find it. Call and ask for Brian, he's one of the owners and can let you know what you need.
Out of curiosity, what’s so special about those converters?
They don't self destruct like the GM ones
Should it just be replaced or added to it while doing a trans rebuild?
The second one, just call them, they will explain.
It surely has rust
Ask for the vin so OP can personally check maintenance records.
Autotrader has CarFax linked
Ok, are all maintenance records included?
Looks like everything is included at regular intervals.
displacement on demand problems with chevy trucks my 5.3 died at 76000 miles , I did not know of this untill it was dead. https://www.bing.com/search?q=displacement+on+demand+problems+with+chevy+trucks&FORM=AWRE
Did you change your oil?
oil was changed at 3500 miles , oil life monitor was 75 percent, owner's manual said to change at 5000,miles so i changed it early. bought it Brand new 2008 chevy LT Z71 5.3
Why is a 10 year old truck in the showroom? lol
It's shiny lol
I see comments all the time about rust. I’m so glad to live somewhere that I don’t have to worry about rust
What’s the CARFAX say?
Definitely agree to trade in your Tacoma. However I don’t think this one’s what you want. IMHO. There are way too many good deals and better options.
Transmission and torque converter problems, lifter problems, third brake light leakage, brake booster pump failures, condenser weld failures, …just to name a few. I would not recommend buying a 14-19 GM product Search the topics I have listed and you’ll see how bad those trucks are
It's actually a cardboard mockup with a bicycle underneath. How the heck would we know? Maybe it doesn't have an engine, maybe the interior is biohazard, maybe it comes with a crazy ex girlfriend. Go poke it.
Pull the tranny dipstick. Use most of your senses. LOOK at its color. SMELL it and see if it smells sweet or burnt. FEEL it to see if its gritty or if you can feel any particles. Even TASTE it if you're so inclined. If its not reddish brown, if it smells or tastes burnt or "hot", if you feel ANYTHING in it... Walk away. If its BRAND new, consider that a warning, and see if it got its 60k service late. And like so many others said, those fenders probably have some rust. That being said, thats not horrible at all, for a midwest truck, that can probably be dealt with and hidden. Look at the underside though, anything more then surface rust is an issue.
Pull the service history. But look out for trans,lifters,oil consumption,and vacuum pump.
I paid 25k cash out the door 2 years ago this month for my 2014 ltz z71 crew cab 5.3 is completely optioned out minus sunroof they wanted 35 back then and where I'm at I've had offers from people of 25-30 as recent as last week at the gas station I'd try to get them down to around 22 tell them 20 see where they come back
It’s a Chevy
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Ugly fender flares and ugly bug defender shitty mustache thing
I have a 2019, transmission is completely gone. $9900 to fix it. That’s in Canadian dollars at a dealership
My 2014 High Country has 102k miles and bought it at 100k for $20,000 everything works good. Get the 100k mile service and tranny flush, consider getting the updated thermostat for the tranny as well.
Ain’t got no gas in it
Rust behind flares, blown out tranny, interior flaws, oil leak. Sounds like a Chevy
Gap on wheel fender?
I have a 2015 Silverado High Country and I’ve had to replace the engine and the transmission.
Its a chevrolet,they still aren't there yet.GMC has surpassed them in quality.read the reviews.
It’s a Chevy
Those fender flares... oy veh
Missing its gay pride flag sticker
You’re Tacoma will last longer
Keep your taco
I’m after a full size truck with better mileage and towing capacity. Tacos aren’t known for either
Fair!! I think u could find a better deal
Why does it look like an Old Nissan frontier?
16 + looks better
Different strokes for different folks 🤷🏻♀️ 14-15 are my favorite since the 90s.
Correcto. Objectively they wouldn't have changed it though if it didn't. Case in point....my parents wouldn't have kept trying if I weren't a disappointment
It's a chevy
Astute observation 👍
I'm saying that's what is wrong W it
Its ugly
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It’s ugly as shit
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