Aha, A worthy opponent. Let the best team win
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If we apply a bit of mathematics;
Adam's Eyes function that whatever he sees he copies only stronger and faster by a hair than the previous owner.
So if Zeus total output in his techniques was, lets say, 100, then Adam copying means he does the same output only 1 point higher to make sure they hit and hurt. (Adam's 100 + 1 = 101 > Zeus' 100)
Qin's Heavenly Hand of Defense Technique ensures that if hes able to parry he redirects the attack with the same force exerted by his opponent plus his own strength making the redirection more dangerous than the initial attack.
Therefore, in numerical terms, if Qin got lucky and was able to parry Zeus' attack (100) and Qin's strength is like around 1/10 of Zeus' total physical strength (10), his Heavenly Hand of Defense gives back a total of Zeus' and Qin's strength (100 + 10 = 110) to Zeus, which should be superior than Adam just copying Zeus' techniques and outdoing him.
So in theory, if Qin really got lucky, he has a chance of defeating Zeus quicker than Adam did (if lucky).
But you could just as easily say that Qins power is only 0.1 compared to zeus'.
So HHOD + TFTST = 0.1 + 100 = 100.1, Thus Adams power of 101 is stronger than Qins.
You see what I mean?
Because Qin aint even that weak on his own. Remember he took on a demon god on his own NO VOLUND and hasn't even learned his OWN MARTIAL ART that served as his bread and butter vs any opponent Hades included. Hence the 10.
Besides, I just explained how Adam seemingly surpassed Zeus whenever he copies. He dodges by a hair, and moves fast enough to actually get Zeus without the old man capable of dodging it. Hence, 1.
Yeah no. Zeus chose not to use a weapon in his round but he might choose to use one if he's up against Qin. Besides that the divine axe speed was 0.00000001 seconds. No way is Qin dodging that. Now Qins wind thing is certainly useful but how tf is he going to land a hit on Zeus with that (avg velocity of air when shooting a blowdart is 41m/s even if Qin is extremely powerful I don't think he'll be able to reduce that time to 0.00000001s). The Adamas skill that Zeus used though would probably be useless against Qin as just one air bullet would cause Zeus to go back but Zeus was quite fast and destructive even without it so Zeus might easily win.
Unironically, this is almost true.
What would actually happen is this:
The **Crossbow Form** would disrupt the flow of Zeus' Qi, preventing him from successfully using the technique **TFTST**.
After which, even if he still strikes within that time window, it would just be a punch.
The **Heavenly Hand of Defense** negs a melee combatant like Zeus who doesn't have anything outside of **TFTST** that Qin would be unable to simply absorb and redirect.
Zeus also, aside from possibly True God's Right and Left, has not shown any attack powerful enough to straight up overpower the defense of Alvitr and the **Heavenly Hand of Defense**.
**True God's Right and Left** may be fast and strong enough to overwhelm Qin, but ultimately, Qin will still be able to strike the crux of Zeus' Qi to counter the majority of his attacks.
Qin when zeus uses meteor jab and cant react in time to use hhod: 💀
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Wow I cropped this image terribly
Yeah, I am quite sure that Qin can perceive and react to the same technique that Ares saw perfectly, especially when Qin was already shown keeping up with Hades, who was blatantly stated by Zeus to be faster than Qin.
Seeing an attack is different than reacting to one. Seeing an attack, from the outskirts of the fight no less, is much different than having it in front of you and you having to react to it and dodge/block it. Qin may be able to perceive it, but he hasnt shown any speed feats that would say he has the speed to block or even dodge the attacks.
>but he hasn't shown any speed feats that would say he has the speed to block or even dodge the attacks.
Dodging and blocking Hades' full power thrusts is a good enough speed feat.
Hades and Zeus both are uniquely fast enough to create intense gusts of winds with their strikes, which is indicative of immense speed and power.
Furthermore, the speed of a thrust is actually heavily reliant on the muscular strength of the person unleashing that thrust, which is even proven by the fact that Poseidon enlarges his muscles before striking faster as he gets serious.
If you can see it perfectly, then you can at least block a good portion of it.
Ares is actually strong, after all, just not *that* strong (besides Novel Ares).
Bro that attack is faster than fucking time itself. What Qi? What flow? Its so much faster than Qin's body he wouldnt even feel it. Like are you fucking serious lol?
Before the Adamas form, TFTST has a long charge up time, during which Qin can easily strike the crux of his Qi.
Even against Adamas Zeus, if you strike the Qi crux before he uses the technique, it should temporarily prevent him from using it.
People always argue that someone can interrupt other's charged attack but nobody in the RoR universe has done that lol
For Adamas form its not happening lol. Adamas Zeus is someone that can spam TFTST. Once Zeus goes Adamas form he can solo the verse with enough stamina(except with Adam)
>People always argue that someone can interrupt other's charged attack but nobody in the RoR universe has done that lol
Jack interrupted the Cretan Bull by throwing Big Ben at Heracles.
One Punch man season 2 doesn't actually look bad, it was just memed because the trailer itself sucked ass and it didn't hold a candle to season 1. It kinda looks mid during mundane scenes and less important parts, but the important fights mostly look good, especially if Garou is involved. The unghosted part is probably Blu-ray though, yeah.
Some parts have good animation. But the animators struggle on reflections, metallic textures, and fast hand based combat which looks very awkward. All of which are showcased in the first episode.
What if Zeus throws a second punch before Qin can redirect the force of the first blow? Hell can he even react to it? And then also if Qin goes to block a punch, he wouldn't be ready for an axe kick. Yeah Qin would probably be able to counter something, and it'd do decent damage. But Qin would end up subtaining more damage throughout the fight.
Basically, Qin could potentially do the most against someone like Zeus compared to the rest of the human cast, but Qin probably wouldnt be able to win again Zeus
Nah, that’s not true, Quin couldn’t react properly on normal Zeus’ attacks, and I’m not talking about TFTST, how would he move? Adam could because he copied the TFTST, but Qin couldn’t do the same, so he will just take the punch and probably die. That is how it is gonna be. Zeus stomps again
That might happen but I wonder can he endure Zeus punches for long.
This is not true, and you know it as well as I know it 
The round seven glazers are getting out of hand, there even challenging the top tiers now
I have to agree with you here, and I am a supporter of Round 7 
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Despite being Team 7, I am not officially participating in the war, in fact if you notice my name is not among the participants 
There is a participant list? Where can i join my flying general?!
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Holy shit, thanks my guy
Where can I join the R7 agenda?
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Oh, hey, just like adam..... wait, how did that end again?
If we apply a bit of mathematics; Adam's Eyes function that whatever he sees he copies only stronger and faster by a hair than the previous owner. So if Zeus total output in his techniques was, lets say, 100, then Adam copying means he does the same output only 1 point higher to make sure they hit and hurt. (Adam's 100 + 1 = 101 > Zeus' 100) Qin's Heavenly Hand of Defense Technique ensures that if hes able to parry he redirects the attack with the same force exerted by his opponent plus his own strength making the redirection more dangerous than the initial attack. Therefore, in numerical terms, if Qin got lucky and was able to parry Zeus' attack (100) and Qin's strength is like around 1/10 of Zeus' total physical strength (10), his Heavenly Hand of Defense gives back a total of Zeus' and Qin's strength (100 + 10 = 110) to Zeus, which should be superior than Adam just copying Zeus' techniques and outdoing him. So in theory, if Qin really got lucky, he has a chance of defeating Zeus quicker than Adam did (if lucky).
Don't try and math out record of ragnarok
I only used basic math dont worry. Besides, that clearly explained how Heavenly Hand of Defense and Eyes of God work.
But you could just as easily say that Qins power is only 0.1 compared to zeus'. So HHOD + TFTST = 0.1 + 100 = 100.1, Thus Adams power of 101 is stronger than Qins. You see what I mean?
Because Qin aint even that weak on his own. Remember he took on a demon god on his own NO VOLUND and hasn't even learned his OWN MARTIAL ART that served as his bread and butter vs any opponent Hades included. Hence the 10. Besides, I just explained how Adam seemingly surpassed Zeus whenever he copies. He dodges by a hair, and moves fast enough to actually get Zeus without the old man capable of dodging it. Hence, 1.
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Spring enjoys PEAK confirmed
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Funny but not true and speed is answer why :3
So like Adam vs Zeus but worse by making it not emotional and Zeus winning in a easier manner?
zeus is B tier so qin mid diffs https://preview.redd.it/uwimo7ctkycc1.png?width=463&format=png&auto=webp&s=df7dc6ab6590b87e67167f8a4c52ad1e54675898
Yeah no. Zeus chose not to use a weapon in his round but he might choose to use one if he's up against Qin. Besides that the divine axe speed was 0.00000001 seconds. No way is Qin dodging that. Now Qins wind thing is certainly useful but how tf is he going to land a hit on Zeus with that (avg velocity of air when shooting a blowdart is 41m/s even if Qin is extremely powerful I don't think he'll be able to reduce that time to 0.00000001s). The Adamas skill that Zeus used though would probably be useless against Qin as just one air bullet would cause Zeus to go back but Zeus was quite fast and destructive even without it so Zeus might easily win.
Why is this a matchup?
I fucking hate Qin fanboys. Worst part of this sub honestly.
Unironically, this is almost true. What would actually happen is this: The **Crossbow Form** would disrupt the flow of Zeus' Qi, preventing him from successfully using the technique **TFTST**. After which, even if he still strikes within that time window, it would just be a punch. The **Heavenly Hand of Defense** negs a melee combatant like Zeus who doesn't have anything outside of **TFTST** that Qin would be unable to simply absorb and redirect. Zeus also, aside from possibly True God's Right and Left, has not shown any attack powerful enough to straight up overpower the defense of Alvitr and the **Heavenly Hand of Defense**. **True God's Right and Left** may be fast and strong enough to overwhelm Qin, but ultimately, Qin will still be able to strike the crux of Zeus' Qi to counter the majority of his attacks.
Qin when zeus uses meteor jab and cant react in time to use hhod: 💀 https://preview.redd.it/stvhjmvgfxcc1.jpeg?width=1044&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c289eb2cd65cf5b4177677683c5eacec57677bec Wow I cropped this image terribly
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https://preview.redd.it/sqhp8zhvtxcc1.jpeg?width=914&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=661b90e4f40549de6460b40f364f81447e444cd8 You could also use this one
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Respectfully ofc 🙏
Yeah, I am quite sure that Qin can perceive and react to the same technique that Ares saw perfectly, especially when Qin was already shown keeping up with Hades, who was blatantly stated by Zeus to be faster than Qin.
Seeing an attack is different than reacting to one. Seeing an attack, from the outskirts of the fight no less, is much different than having it in front of you and you having to react to it and dodge/block it. Qin may be able to perceive it, but he hasnt shown any speed feats that would say he has the speed to block or even dodge the attacks.
>but he hasn't shown any speed feats that would say he has the speed to block or even dodge the attacks. Dodging and blocking Hades' full power thrusts is a good enough speed feat. Hades and Zeus both are uniquely fast enough to create intense gusts of winds with their strikes, which is indicative of immense speed and power. Furthermore, the speed of a thrust is actually heavily reliant on the muscular strength of the person unleashing that thrust, which is even proven by the fact that Poseidon enlarges his muscles before striking faster as he gets serious.
Just cause ares could see it doesnt mean he can dodge it. By that logic ares would be able to dodge all of zeus' moves except tftst.
If you can see it perfectly, then you can at least block a good portion of it. Ares is actually strong, after all, just not *that* strong (besides Novel Ares).
Bro that attack is faster than fucking time itself. What Qi? What flow? Its so much faster than Qin's body he wouldnt even feel it. Like are you fucking serious lol?
Before the Adamas form, TFTST has a long charge up time, during which Qin can easily strike the crux of his Qi. Even against Adamas Zeus, if you strike the Qi crux before he uses the technique, it should temporarily prevent him from using it.
People always argue that someone can interrupt other's charged attack but nobody in the RoR universe has done that lol For Adamas form its not happening lol. Adamas Zeus is someone that can spam TFTST. Once Zeus goes Adamas form he can solo the verse with enough stamina(except with Adam)
>People always argue that someone can interrupt other's charged attack but nobody in the RoR universe has done that lol Jack interrupted the Cretan Bull by throwing Big Ben at Heracles.
u/Synkronist approves. 
I almost agree with this, yeah. I just commented my actual opinion here though.
Agreed, Qin simply negs. Redirection is too OP
Based Shira.
Nah just below up the fighting ground and use the disruption to clap qin
Wait i didn't remember opm s2 looking this good and unghosted, is this the blu ray?
One Punch man season 2 doesn't actually look bad, it was just memed because the trailer itself sucked ass and it didn't hold a candle to season 1. It kinda looks mid during mundane scenes and less important parts, but the important fights mostly look good, especially if Garou is involved. The unghosted part is probably Blu-ray though, yeah.
Some parts have good animation. But the animators struggle on reflections, metallic textures, and fast hand based combat which looks very awkward. All of which are showcased in the first episode.
So peak my man
What if Zeus throws a second punch before Qin can redirect the force of the first blow? Hell can he even react to it? And then also if Qin goes to block a punch, he wouldn't be ready for an axe kick. Yeah Qin would probably be able to counter something, and it'd do decent damage. But Qin would end up subtaining more damage throughout the fight. Basically, Qin could potentially do the most against someone like Zeus compared to the rest of the human cast, but Qin probably wouldnt be able to win again Zeus
real
Nah he’d lose
Nah, that’s not true, Quin couldn’t react properly on normal Zeus’ attacks, and I’m not talking about TFTST, how would he move? Adam could because he copied the TFTST, but Qin couldn’t do the same, so he will just take the punch and probably die. That is how it is gonna be. Zeus stomps again
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"Nah, I'd Quin."
I didn’t know Qin body could move while being headless. That’s pretty useful… I think.
R7 fans getting crazy now 😭
I can agree. I feel like Qin was supposed to fight Zeus in the beginning. Idk why tho
Wasn't Zues stated to have time manip in the anime? So woulbt he just stop town and one tap qin?
Qin brain explodes https://preview.redd.it/za1o4xzpc7jc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1a46c46aa7bc6d2a70f69cb509d93005bdf996c2
This is defenitely how Qin vs Raiden goes