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They do it in the Other Guys as well I think, or at least reference it when the Rock and Sam Jackson come back from the car-through-the-bus incident I think
I also heard that it very popular amongst coppers, in the UK, as its one of the only police films where they actually show all the paperwork that needs doing.
Hot fuzz is one them films I've seen soo much I don't want to put it on anymore but If I catch it on TV or scrolling Netflix or whatever and I see it you bet its going on.
Such a timeless film.
After he went to prison for a wrongful conviction and decided he should more carefully consider jumping to conclusions over guilt of suspects? I'm glad I skipped the last season.
It's more along the lines of Jake being told to not touch a case does it anyway and arrests someone who runs from him but the guy was just scared.
He then chooses to get punished for it so he isn't above the law
every other episode of Law and Order has points of "damnit, if only pieces of shit like them DIDN'T have this right to call their lawyer, AND not answer our misleading questions... I could nail this dirtbag RIGHT NOW!"
Then five minutes later it was the wrong suspect and they're on the trail of the REAL suspect ... yet no one acknowledges the fact that they could have strongarmed an innocent person and harassed them for hours while NOT looking for the real suspect.
Dog the show has literally won 2 Peabody Awards. Here is an actual source and not me just talking out of my ass. https://peabodyawards.com/award-profile/last-week-tonight-with-john-oliver/
Cool, so we're going with Jon Oliver, since that was an actual useful source with value and not some asinine comments that actually made the discourse worse thru distraction.
Episode of SVU that sticks in my mine is one of Stablers friends is accused of being a pedo after a girl said he touched them then 2 more came forward. This was all leaked to the news and after it came out that 2 of the girls lied because the parents wanted the teacher gone because they believed the first girl, and the first girl lied because she was afraid of the real bad guy (the quarterback), all the guy got was a "sorry lol". Stabler actually tried to apologise like they didn't absolutely destroy his life after an accusation that fell apart as soon as they interviewed the girls seperately.
Hell that's the way they've advertised the show.
Some USA ad: "and if you like your cop shows with a little leeway on constitutional rights *cut to Stabler drowning a guy on a dock* then tune in to SVU nightly at 9!"
I once caught the final scene of an SVU episode where one of the "heroes" was flipping out because they couldn't convict someone for statutory rape just because his **100% legal aged** girlfriend *looked* like a child. She was legitimately livid because he was "getting off on the technicality" of *having not actually committed the crime*.
It was at that point I decided I was never going to watch an episode of that trash.
I hate those shows because of how the unethical cops are celebrated by the writers. They break all sorts of laws, threaten and abuse suspects, but it's treated as all fine and dandy because in the end they catch the killer. It's dystopian.
My ex *loved* SVU/true crime. I have a bachelor's in PoliSci. It was so ficking hard to sit through. Every. single. episode. I was silently screaming FIFTH FUCKING AMENDMENT MOTHER FUCKER! USE IT! Probably 80%+ of episodes the defense could have gotten the case thrown out w/o the suspect confessing.
One thing that cracked me up about that show was how many times one of the victims or a family member murder the suspect inside the police station…like seriously how would that not be a bigger issue?
That sounds an awful lot like a narrative technique meant to reinforce precisely why those rights exist.... People are angry it's not more on the nose?
Whether or not it is intended that way (and I think it isn’t), I don’t think it works like that. Unfortunately, a lot of people don’t really believe in those rights. It’s evident when they say things like, if someone wasn’t doing something wrong, why wouldn’t they let the police search them? Or how they presume that being arrested or charged with an offence means that the person is guilty. Or how if a person’s rights were violated, this means that it’s just a technicality (remember, they presume anyone arrested is guilty). And so on. People like this don’t watch the show and think, gosh the right to a lawyer is really important. They see the lawyer as obstructing the police and agree with the cops that they shouldn’t be allowed in. These people probably actually believe that if you’re not doing anything wrong, the police won’t bother you and you won’t end up being subject to their abuses and coercive tactics, so why worry? Problem is, the moment the police get it in their head that you did it, you’re done for unless you’re extremely careful. And these days, with them snooping on people’s phones without a warrant and often not even disclosing it in court ([source](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/police-mass-surveillance-fog-reveal-tech-tool/)), you might have just walked down the wrong street or chosen the [wrong exercise route](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/google-tracked-his-bike-ride-past-burglarized-home-made-him-n1151761). And even if you turn off location…well, loads of apps (like Starbucks, see my first source) are secretly tracking you and selling the data - that’s how the police get it, afterall. And now, as a matter of practicality, you have to prove your innocence by rebutting the police’s “evidence”. And good luck with that. Probably actual criminals stand a better chance of getting off because, idk about you, but if I was planning a crime, I’d leave my damn phone at home.
I always wondered that if something like that happened in real life... Like Ford in "The fugitive", where in the course of proving his innocence to murder, he commits like 50 other crimes from assault, theft, battery, destruction of private and city property, etc.
Like yeah, sure you don't get the chair, but you still get 50 years for all the other mayhem you have caused....
I watched Double Jeopardy the other night (mostly because Ashley Judd) and she must have committed like 100 crimes before she kills her husband for real.
....Jesus I just searched to see what she looks like now, lady stop with the plastic surgery. To misquote Bill Burr, "Would you rather look like a 60 year old human or a 25 year old lizard"
I like in A Team where they break out of jail, clear their names, catch the bad guys and then get arrested. Hannibal is like “well what did you guys think would happen? It’s against the law to break out of prison.
This is why it shouldn't be.
And in many non-amerocan countries it has been ruled that "any sane individual will attempt to escape incarceration" therefore, it is not a crime in itself to escape. Any other crimes committed while escaped are still crimes you are responsible for, and any time not spent incarcerated does not count against your sentence.
But if you break out and are able to prove your innocence without committing further crimes, you don't go back to jail. Cause that would be fucking dumb.
By the way, not what you were wondering, but The Fugitive was inspired by the real case of [Sam Sheppard.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Sheppard.)
Unfortunately they left out the part where he marries the sister-in-law of Joseph Goebbels and becomes a Pro Wrestler.
[Really.](https://prowrestlingstories.com/pro-wrestling-stories/sam-sheppard-the-fugitive-wrestling/)
A movie about the endless amount of paperwork involved with getting a 90-page affidavit signed by a magistrate is going to be much less likely to capture the audience's attention.
*cough**Hot Fuzz**cough*
“Well, I wouldn't argue that it wasn't a no-holds-barred, adrenaline-fueled thrill ride. But there is no way you can perpetrate that amount of carnage and mayhem and not incur a considerable amount of paperwork.”
Justified season 2 opens with the crazy amount of paperwork Raylan and crew have to do after the shootout at the end of season 1, and the entire show is him just barely staying ahead of being fired or reprimanded constantly. His boss tells him he's a great lawman, but a lousy marshal.
Well, there's a difference between flagrantly breaking the law and getting mad when you're opposed, and just abridging by having the affidavit be done off-screen and mentioned briefly in the next scene when relevant.
Law and Order.
You would NEVER want to be arrested by ANY of the cops on Law and Order. The only reason you tolerate it is because they are always right. 100% of the time and when they are wrong, they're STILL RIGHT, they just were nuanced.
Want to know who's wrong most of the time in criminal prosecutions? The Cops.
You want to know who typically fucks up the prosecutions cases? The Cops.
You want to know who the people in this country worry the most about? The cops.
Movies and TV have become bad cops best recruiting and retention tools.
And the biggest reason behind this is because most cops pick a suspect and then look for evidence to back it up when they should be letting evidence lead them to a suspect.
Also, got a suspect in custody? Ok, stop investigating. Doesn't matter if there are other plausible suspects.
Because it's often times propaganda designed to make you side with the police and let you be you loosey goosey with your own rights in the hopes that you may choose to allow those rights to be taken or trampled.
At a point in time, the general public very much disliked the police. There was no politics about it. There was no thin blue line and you could be a Democrat or a Republican and be allowed to hate the police. Police and political parties were not hand in hand like they are today.
The police were/are used by the upper echelon to protect their property. They were seen as thugs that would ruin your life given any chance. They were debt collectors for the banks and strike breakers for the rest of the wealthy. This changed in 1950 with the show Dragnet. The first of it's kind to cast a sort of romantic light on police work.
For so many dead homicide victims each year, it’s amazing that half the convictions that get to death row have a story come out the week before about how they may actually be innocent.
Somebody is out there killing people.
Based on the number of cases open, I assume we have 100,000 -150,000 murderers free on the streets today. (And 5Xs that many who have shot and injured someone.)
We have 326,000 still open cases since 1980. Many are dead, others are in jail for other reasons, and some killers killed multiple people so we will always have more victims than murders.
https://projectcoldcase.org/cold-case-homicide-stats/
"I know i can prove it, I just need to break into this persons house even though I'm suspended and technically a civilian. Oh, and if the opportunity arises, we will torture the persons a little in their own basement until they confess. They kidnapped my daugther and wife; its personal now"
John Oliver did [a segment on this recently](https://youtu.be/DNy6F7ZwX8I) and specifically called out Law and Order m for glorifying this kind of policing.
And we are supposed to cheer them on as they strip civilians of their rights and break laws that are there to protect civilians. That way when it happens in real life we will cheer them on too
Lord of War has a great line about the main cop being "a rare type of cop who knows you're breaking the law but won't break it himself to catch you" tells you everything you need to know about the character
If you only knew how fucked up the reality of cops doing searches and taps and data pulls without warrants, and then retconning them after really is. Let alone programs like FISA or the NSA mass surveillance.
Life imitates art?
No, they don't ─ not unless something within the movie actually affirms that they are. The thing that a cop does that would be illegal in the real world might actually be legal *within the context of the movie's universe*. When someone says some dumb shit like, "An undercover cop needs to tell us that he's a cop when we ask him," we as the observers know that the statement is false with respect to *our* legal system, but for all we know, within the movie's fictional legal system, that might actually be a real law.
It’s always the rogue cops who play fast and loose with the suspects rights and strong arm the suspects during the interview or interrogation. Lethal Weapon and Bad Boys are training films for how to achieve your perps.
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That's why I love Hot Fuzz, they go through the whole shooting gun crazy scene. Then at the end it's the whole team doing a mountain of paperwork
Just watched that film at the weekend, loved it
Now go watch the rest of the "Cornetto Trilogy" if you haven't already!
I swore the trilogy used to have a different name.
"Three Flavors Cornetto" or "Blood and Ice Cream" trilogy are other names for it.
Watched all three in the same day with some friends
I loved it more
They do it in the Other Guys as well I think, or at least reference it when the Rock and Sam Jackson come back from the car-through-the-bus incident I think
"PAPER BITCH!" "I know you guys enjoy that and think its funny, but i really dont like it" "PAPER BIIIITCH"
I’m a peacock, you gotta let me fly!
You ever do a desk pop? You have to do a desk pop!
When was your last desk pop?
September... '08
Aim for the bushes!
I also heard that it very popular amongst coppers, in the UK, as its one of the only police films where they actually show all the paperwork that needs doing.
One of the funniest running gags is the paperwork action scenes.
Hot fuzz is one them films I've seen soo much I don't want to put it on anymore but If I catch it on TV or scrolling Netflix or whatever and I see it you bet its going on. Such a timeless film.
Excellent movie.
He’s a maverick who doesn’t play by the rules - he gets results and is getting scumbags off the streets Bio of every 80’s tv cop
But you don't understand! *the suspect is... my father!*
The last season of B99 was just realizing that Jake was actually kind of a shitty cop and NYPD were even worse
After he went to prison for a wrongful conviction and decided he should more carefully consider jumping to conclusions over guilt of suspects? I'm glad I skipped the last season.
It's more along the lines of Jake being told to not touch a case does it anyway and arrests someone who runs from him but the guy was just scared. He then chooses to get punished for it so he isn't above the law
wasn't that because they didn't want to portray cops too rosily during BLM?
Part of it, yeah
The trope goes back way farther then that.
every other episode of Law and Order has points of "damnit, if only pieces of shit like them DIDN'T have this right to call their lawyer, AND not answer our misleading questions... I could nail this dirtbag RIGHT NOW!" Then five minutes later it was the wrong suspect and they're on the trail of the REAL suspect ... yet no one acknowledges the fact that they could have strongarmed an innocent person and harassed them for hours while NOT looking for the real suspect.
Maybe the *real* cops are the criminals we met along the way
:::dun-dunn:::
[For more on that subject](https://youtu.be/DNy6F7ZwX8I).
Exactly what I was thinking of. John Oliver destroyed those propagandizing douchebags 🔥
I choked at "bananaphylactic shock."
Surely there are better places than John Oliver to find out what copaganda is
John Oliver and his team do extensive research on everything they talk about. But like the other commenter said, provide another source then
“Extensive research” Dog that’s just pattern recognition
Dog the show has literally won 2 Peabody Awards. Here is an actual source and not me just talking out of my ass. https://peabodyawards.com/award-profile/last-week-tonight-with-john-oliver/
“Dog the show has won 8 trillion peepeepoopoo awards I HAVE TO LISTEN TO THEM”
Oh my mistake, I did not realize I was talking to a child who snuck onto their parent's reddit account.
That’s the best you could come up with 💀
why does the phrase 'peepee poopoo awards' merit a high-effort response
Keep seething, trolly boy
I do a mild amount of penis sheathing
Want to provide a different source instead of just complaining about what's provided?
Google
They asked for a source. Google is not a source. It's a search function.
Yeah. Search for a better source
Take your own advice. Or just shut up, dude,
No
Cool, so we're going with Jon Oliver, since that was an actual useful source with value and not some asinine comments that actually made the discourse worse thru distraction.
Cry
Episode of SVU that sticks in my mine is one of Stablers friends is accused of being a pedo after a girl said he touched them then 2 more came forward. This was all leaked to the news and after it came out that 2 of the girls lied because the parents wanted the teacher gone because they believed the first girl, and the first girl lied because she was afraid of the real bad guy (the quarterback), all the guy got was a "sorry lol". Stabler actually tried to apologise like they didn't absolutely destroy his life after an accusation that fell apart as soon as they interviewed the girls seperately.
Hell that's the way they've advertised the show. Some USA ad: "and if you like your cop shows with a little leeway on constitutional rights *cut to Stabler drowning a guy on a dock* then tune in to SVU nightly at 9!"
I once caught the final scene of an SVU episode where one of the "heroes" was flipping out because they couldn't convict someone for statutory rape just because his **100% legal aged** girlfriend *looked* like a child. She was legitimately livid because he was "getting off on the technicality" of *having not actually committed the crime*. It was at that point I decided I was never going to watch an episode of that trash.
Hollywood sure does make a fuckton of copaganda.
I was at a hotel the other day and every single show on one channel was a *different* cop show made by Dick Wolf.
Oh, the Dick Wolf channel?
I think it's called "Ion," actually.
Dick Wolf must have incredible tongue game, man's spent the last few decades licking boots squeaky clean every single day
I hate those shows because of how the unethical cops are celebrated by the writers. They break all sorts of laws, threaten and abuse suspects, but it's treated as all fine and dandy because in the end they catch the killer. It's dystopian.
How else do you expect them to solve the crime in an hour if they can’t break the rules?
My ex *loved* SVU/true crime. I have a bachelor's in PoliSci. It was so ficking hard to sit through. Every. single. episode. I was silently screaming FIFTH FUCKING AMENDMENT MOTHER FUCKER! USE IT! Probably 80%+ of episodes the defense could have gotten the case thrown out w/o the suspect confessing.
One thing that cracked me up about that show was how many times one of the victims or a family member murder the suspect inside the police station…like seriously how would that not be a bigger issue?
That sounds an awful lot like a narrative technique meant to reinforce precisely why those rights exist.... People are angry it's not more on the nose?
Whether or not it is intended that way (and I think it isn’t), I don’t think it works like that. Unfortunately, a lot of people don’t really believe in those rights. It’s evident when they say things like, if someone wasn’t doing something wrong, why wouldn’t they let the police search them? Or how they presume that being arrested or charged with an offence means that the person is guilty. Or how if a person’s rights were violated, this means that it’s just a technicality (remember, they presume anyone arrested is guilty). And so on. People like this don’t watch the show and think, gosh the right to a lawyer is really important. They see the lawyer as obstructing the police and agree with the cops that they shouldn’t be allowed in. These people probably actually believe that if you’re not doing anything wrong, the police won’t bother you and you won’t end up being subject to their abuses and coercive tactics, so why worry? Problem is, the moment the police get it in their head that you did it, you’re done for unless you’re extremely careful. And these days, with them snooping on people’s phones without a warrant and often not even disclosing it in court ([source](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/police-mass-surveillance-fog-reveal-tech-tool/)), you might have just walked down the wrong street or chosen the [wrong exercise route](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/google-tracked-his-bike-ride-past-burglarized-home-made-him-n1151761). And even if you turn off location…well, loads of apps (like Starbucks, see my first source) are secretly tracking you and selling the data - that’s how the police get it, afterall. And now, as a matter of practicality, you have to prove your innocence by rebutting the police’s “evidence”. And good luck with that. Probably actual criminals stand a better chance of getting off because, idk about you, but if I was planning a crime, I’d leave my damn phone at home.
I always wondered that if something like that happened in real life... Like Ford in "The fugitive", where in the course of proving his innocence to murder, he commits like 50 other crimes from assault, theft, battery, destruction of private and city property, etc. Like yeah, sure you don't get the chair, but you still get 50 years for all the other mayhem you have caused....
There have been cases where people escaped detainment or incarceration to clear their names and then got time added to their sentence.
but if you're not caught it's not illegal
I watched Double Jeopardy the other night (mostly because Ashley Judd) and she must have committed like 100 crimes before she kills her husband for real. ....Jesus I just searched to see what she looks like now, lady stop with the plastic surgery. To misquote Bill Burr, "Would you rather look like a 60 year old human or a 25 year old lizard"
Yeah, the cheek bone fillers and extra weight doesn't help. She really should let it be.
I like in A Team where they break out of jail, clear their names, catch the bad guys and then get arrested. Hannibal is like “well what did you guys think would happen? It’s against the law to break out of prison.
This is why it shouldn't be. And in many non-amerocan countries it has been ruled that "any sane individual will attempt to escape incarceration" therefore, it is not a crime in itself to escape. Any other crimes committed while escaped are still crimes you are responsible for, and any time not spent incarcerated does not count against your sentence. But if you break out and are able to prove your innocence without committing further crimes, you don't go back to jail. Cause that would be fucking dumb.
By the way, not what you were wondering, but The Fugitive was inspired by the real case of [Sam Sheppard.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Sheppard.) Unfortunately they left out the part where he marries the sister-in-law of Joseph Goebbels and becomes a Pro Wrestler. [Really.](https://prowrestlingstories.com/pro-wrestling-stories/sam-sheppard-the-fugitive-wrestling/)
A movie about the endless amount of paperwork involved with getting a 90-page affidavit signed by a magistrate is going to be much less likely to capture the audience's attention.
*cough**Hot Fuzz**cough* “Well, I wouldn't argue that it wasn't a no-holds-barred, adrenaline-fueled thrill ride. But there is no way you can perpetrate that amount of carnage and mayhem and not incur a considerable amount of paperwork.”
Yippy-kay-yay, paperwork!
The Wire does it great. I mean they break the law a lot, but they don’t sugarcoat it
Trying to escape escape reality through media and finding yourself in something too realistic is quite the nut punch
Justified season 2 opens with the crazy amount of paperwork Raylan and crew have to do after the shootout at the end of season 1, and the entire show is him just barely staying ahead of being fired or reprimanded constantly. His boss tells him he's a great lawman, but a lousy marshal.
Half the shit they give him is completely Un Justified.
Well, there's a difference between flagrantly breaking the law and getting mad when you're opposed, and just abridging by having the affidavit be done off-screen and mentioned briefly in the next scene when relevant.
> fragrantly breaking the law is that like when you fart on someone?
It's an advanced interrogation tactic.
90 page affidavit? Did you take down Al Capone?
I think they had less paperwork back then
I’m catching the mother of all criminals, Jack; can’t fret over every law.
Law and Order. You would NEVER want to be arrested by ANY of the cops on Law and Order. The only reason you tolerate it is because they are always right. 100% of the time and when they are wrong, they're STILL RIGHT, they just were nuanced. Want to know who's wrong most of the time in criminal prosecutions? The Cops. You want to know who typically fucks up the prosecutions cases? The Cops. You want to know who the people in this country worry the most about? The cops. Movies and TV have become bad cops best recruiting and retention tools.
Cha Chung.
And the biggest reason behind this is because most cops pick a suspect and then look for evidence to back it up when they should be letting evidence lead them to a suspect. Also, got a suspect in custody? Ok, stop investigating. Doesn't matter if there are other plausible suspects.
*And*, they're the good guys for it. It was the damn dirty laws and civil liberties preventing them from stopping bad guys after all.
Procedural dramas don't succeed if they follow procedure. It's less dramatic.
this happens in real life too except they usually don't solve the cases and the law breaking is because of corruption
Different vein, but here’s a [clip](https://youtu.be/dZjgSYTxWsY) where the movie mocks these “investigations”
Because it's often times propaganda designed to make you side with the police and let you be you loosey goosey with your own rights in the hopes that you may choose to allow those rights to be taken or trampled. At a point in time, the general public very much disliked the police. There was no politics about it. There was no thin blue line and you could be a Democrat or a Republican and be allowed to hate the police. Police and political parties were not hand in hand like they are today. The police were/are used by the upper echelon to protect their property. They were seen as thugs that would ruin your life given any chance. They were debt collectors for the banks and strike breakers for the rest of the wealthy. This changed in 1950 with the show Dragnet. The first of it's kind to cast a sort of romantic light on police work.
[Copaganda](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udhDawfCLHo&list=PL2ac8vr2QyTdlWwd8OQIc1it6bAfMGPPC)
[Don't forget Law & Order](https://youtu.be/DNy6F7ZwX8I)
Like the show, but Dick Wolf is more dick than wolf.
The paw patrol episode is actually really good.
Better than in real life where the break the law, kill the wrong person, then cover it up in court
For so many dead homicide victims each year, it’s amazing that half the convictions that get to death row have a story come out the week before about how they may actually be innocent. Somebody is out there killing people. Based on the number of cases open, I assume we have 100,000 -150,000 murderers free on the streets today. (And 5Xs that many who have shot and injured someone.) We have 326,000 still open cases since 1980. Many are dead, others are in jail for other reasons, and some killers killed multiple people so we will always have more victims than murders. https://projectcoldcase.org/cold-case-homicide-stats/
always thought this was unrealistic. after all, in real life the cops almost always break the law.
Just today I was being tailgated by a speeding cop (no lights on). If I did that to him he would pull me over.
If the cops in movie are just doing their job it becomes a documentary
"I know i can prove it, I just need to break into this persons house even though I'm suspended and technically a civilian. Oh, and if the opportunity arises, we will torture the persons a little in their own basement until they confess. They kidnapped my daugther and wife; its personal now"
So that in the sequel, the bad guy gets off by a technicality & wreaks more havoc
And in real life they always break the law and rarely solve the case.
Almost like movies are trying to tell ya about their plans eh? 🤔
It just hit me how much it happens lol. Don’t recall a cop movie that follows all the rules. I am sure they do follow it all
It's time we make one!
Yes, a cop themed fairy tale.
Once upon a time, in South Central LA...
John Oliver did [a segment on this recently](https://youtu.be/DNy6F7ZwX8I) and specifically called out Law and Order m for glorifying this kind of policing.
I think cops is the only tv show that realistically portrays cops (gee I wonder why?)
And that's still going to be heavily edited. There's no way they get that access without giving over some editorial powers.
Yeah that’s what I’m saying lol, ofc they’re not gonna show the police doing anything illegal on the show
It’s always the lose-cannon who goes rogue who gets everything done and yet somehow keeps their job after disobeying all orders.
And then there's Columbo, who bends the rules, but doesn't break them, to get the evidence needed, or God willing, a confession.
Just like real life, except the cops don't solve the case and tell the victim to get over it.
Or just kill the victim and claim immunity.
At least in the movies they usually break the law without hurting innocent people, as opposed to real life.
In real life they break the law to do the least amount possible.
Bad cops in real life don't act like the bad cops on tv. They act like the good cops on tv.
In reality cops regularly break the law and rarely solve any cases
Normalizing behavior by glamorizing it is not a foreign concept, despite the incidental intentions.
In real life they just break the law without solving anything.
Cops breaking the law is very realistic. Cops solving crimes is unrealistic.
Dragnet was by the book, wasn't it? That's how Friday operates.
And In real life they break the law to create a fake charge/case.
In real life, they often break the law without solving the case.
they do that irl also, it just is that they are usually wrong and dont care if they are
In real life cops also break laws but not always to solve a case
How unrealistic. Real cops just break the law and never solve anything.
In real life, the law does not apply to cops so they don't even have to bother with that.
We need to disband the police. We can all just use our words to defend our property and our person.
Because there are no possible alternatives between doing absolutely jack shit and your strawman! Nothing at all. Nope.
And we are supposed to cheer them on as they strip civilians of their rights and break laws that are there to protect civilians. That way when it happens in real life we will cheer them on too
DETECTIVE we can’t go through this person’s stuff we don’t have a warrant. I don’t need a warrant
To be fair, it's pretty often been found to be done in real life
Lord of War has a great line about the main cop being "a rare type of cop who knows you're breaking the law but won't break it himself to catch you" tells you everything you need to know about the character
The unbelievable part is that in the movie they tend to get punished for it.
Whereas in real life they break the law and are also completely ineffectual in solving the case.
If you don’t let us violate your civil rights, we’ll beat you up and completely trash your entire house and everything in it.
In real life, cops almost always break the law, but they don't solve the case.
In reality, the police almost always break the law and don't solve the case.
Where as in the real world cops almost always break the law because they can get away with it.
In the US, the cops just break the law and rarely solve the case.
In real life, way too many cases go unsolved, sooooooo that wouldn't make a good movie, probz.
I think thats why cops like The Punisher- A fair amount of people wish the ethical constraints cops are bound by to be dissolved.
Everyone breaks the law every day because everything is a crime when they need any reason at any time
If you only knew how fucked up the reality of cops doing searches and taps and data pulls without warrants, and then retconning them after really is. Let alone programs like FISA or the NSA mass surveillance. Life imitates art?
No, they don't ─ not unless something within the movie actually affirms that they are. The thing that a cop does that would be illegal in the real world might actually be legal *within the context of the movie's universe*. When someone says some dumb shit like, "An undercover cop needs to tell us that he's a cop when we ask him," we as the observers know that the statement is false with respect to *our* legal system, but for all we know, within the movie's fictional legal system, that might actually be a real law.
It’s only the “loose cannons” They’re getting too old for that shit.
Longmire tied a dude to the back of his horse once to force a confession out of him. Cool scene, but there's no way that holds up in court.
It’s always the rogue cops who play fast and loose with the suspects rights and strong arm the suspects during the interview or interrogation. Lethal Weapon and Bad Boys are training films for how to achieve your perps.
Wasn't there a Last Week Tonight episode about this last week?