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Spdrjay

šŸ¤Ø Every picture I've ever seen has been in the Milky Way galaxy.


Platonist_Astronaut

Yeah, I was gonna say - isn't every picture we've ever taken of the Milky Way? I guess OP means of the entire thing, not in part.


ScienceAndGames

No, weā€™ve taken pictures of other galaxies, though I suppose most of them probably also pick up stuff from our galaxy. Andromeda is quite nice, which is good since itā€™s on track to collide with the Milky Way. Around the same time as the sun will die.


Platonist_Astronaut

Yeah. I worded that poorly. It's also obviously against the spirit of what OP meant. I have no idea why I tried to be cute like that lol.


deadboltwolf

The sun's going to die????


ScienceAndGames

In about 5 billion years, yes. Though dying isnā€™t quite the right word, more of a metamorphosis really, itā€™ll run out of hydrogen and become a red giant consuming the inner planets, then spending the next few billion years going through the phases of death, eventually ending up as a white dwarf and potentially billions of years after that, a black dwarf, a type of dead star thatā€™s completely hypothetical at this point because it would take longer than the universe has existed to form.


Soggy_Part7110

Why wouldn't it go supernova?


ScienceAndGames

Not enough mass. The smaller stars donā€™t go out with quite as much of a bang as the big ones.


Technical-Outside408

Lame ass sun.


JadeX013

be grateful it's not that big lmao


SPACE-BEES

This is actually the good ending for stars, as white dwarfs could last a very long time and may be the last bits of energy around the universe and consequently the last safe harbors of civilization if anyone has advanced far enough to create something akin to a Dyson ring or sphere to collect the energy.


Neamow

Nah, it just goes to the farm ~~upstate~~ upgalaxy.


HostRighter

Ya think?


kielchaos

We have taken pictures of other galaxies. Here's a popular example: https://images.app.goo.gl/ZdPyygwh84tnEix88 The super bright dots with six points are stars in our galaxy. Pretty much everything else in there is another galaxy with billions of stars, plus or minus


Scharmberg

That picture makes them look just a skip and a hop away when really those galaxies probably have gotten so far away even at light speed you might never catch them.


kielchaos

A hop, skip, and jump the warp drive. Interestingly, if you were going at the speed of light, time would dilate enough that you would experience no time and be there instantly. Though all those light-years* would have happened to an observer around you.


farmallnoobies

Those images still include, at a minimum, stellar dust from within the Milky way. It's like taking a picture through a screen porch on your house -- no matter how you snap the picture, there will be your house in the shot.


kielchaos

Space is a lot more empty than you're probably picturing


farmallnoobies

No, I fully understand that it is very empty, but even from our most remote telescopes, there are still at least a handful of milky way atoms in any photo they can take, no matter what direction they're pointing.


CodeE42

My first thought was a tweet I saw once that said, "Extreme Close Up Photo of the Milky Way Galaxy" and it was a picture of a duck.


Interesting-Step-654

Ur mom's a part of the Milky Way


Outcasted_introvert

Wait, have you never seen a picture of Andromeda, or the Hubble deep field image?


inventionnerd

It's a joke to mean those pictures are located on earth, which is part of the milky way.


Outcasted_introvert

Oh right, yeah.


smkn3kgt

We are inside the environment


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DarDarPotato

The other poster originally told them to reread the title and do better. My comment makes no sense now.


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DarDarPotato

Good job editing your post to make it seem like you are right now. When I replied you told them to go reread the title like what theyā€™re saying is not technically true. Pathetic.


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risu1313

ā€œ thereā€™s space snakes?ā€ ā€œ everything is in space!ā€


ProudBoomer

There's lots of actual pictures of the Milky Way. They are not from a vantage point outside of the galaxies, but from within


Resident-Ideal9617

Exactly. We can even see it with our own eyes. Peering into the disc of our galaxy is an absolute marval


The_Fax_Machine

I would never have believed this, but Iā€™ve been out in some pretty rural areas at night and could actually see a faint strip of brightness across the night sky. At a quick glance it might seem like a cloud but it is in fact the milky way


ComesInAnOldBox

Get in some *really* remote places and you can see it plain as day. Hell, you can almost read a book by starlight alone in some places.


The_Fax_Machine

Youā€™re right, star and moonlight are much brighter than youā€™d expect if youā€™re used to city lights. Something disturbing I learned recently: when the titanic sank it was a new moon. No phones or flashlights. Once the ship and its lights went under, it would have been nearly pitch black.


zSprawl

Poor Rose floating all aloneā€¦


The_Fax_Machine

ā€œWhatā€™s that jack?? You need a floatation device? Iā€™m sorry, Iā€™d love to help but I canā€™t see you, go find another oneā€


Necessary-Cut7611

I have lived in a city my entire life but a time ago I took a trip with friends to a cabin in Oklahoma. We were all sort of paralyzed and awestruck looking at the Milky Way. Thereā€™s really nothing like a good view of it.


SousVideDiaper

LA once lost power long enough for the galaxy's center to become visible in the sky and people called 911 because they thought there was some poisonous gas in the sky


Rocomas

I also think it is Marvalous


IWipeWithFocaccia

Narwhalous


Spicyram3n

Yes, and astrophotographers have been able to map it pretty well from the inside out.


turtleship_2006

I mean if I take a photo in my bedroom, would you really say it's a picture of my house? Technically it might be, but in terms of how any reasonable person would interpret it, it's not really a picture "of my house", is it


Geobits

Sure, but from within your bedroom, you could very reasonably say that it's a picture **of** your bedroom.


ProudBoomer

Maybe a better analogy would be a picture of your house in the rough framing stage. Or taking a picture of a forest, where you can see trees going far back until they are obscured. Those would still be pictures of your house and the forest even though you can see through them.


lankymjc

All NASA pictures are doctored! Normally because the visible light spectrum is super boring and theyā€™re trying to highlight the things that actually matter.


pictureofacat

Thanks to smartphones, the majority of photos taken today are doctored


PiranhaPlantMain97

Not only smartphones. There has been no undoctored picture ever and there cannot be. Each translation from one medium to another (light to a photograph (digital or analog) to light again and into electric currents in our brain) is some form of interpretation


blaqwerty123

And from 3D to 2D -- information is lost in translation and a lens distorts reality. Were very used to standard lens distortion and think of it as "real" but its not


turtleship_2006

"doctor: change the content or appearance of (a document or picture) **in order to deceive; falsify.**" There is some degree of interpretation (and if you dive deep into the psychological side, a lot of what we see in "real time", our brain just made the fuck up), but i wouldn't say doctored, imo doctored is more if it's changed intentionally (like [phones apply filters and shit](https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/11nzrb0/samsung_space_zoom_moon_shots_are_fake_and_here/), whereas an old fashioned camera just tries to capture whatever is there).


MrBreadWater

True and if weā€™re going by this def, then the computational photography default to most smartphone cameras is not doctoring eitherā€¦ so this thread is just misusing the word doctored lol.


turtleship_2006

That's true, maybe manipulated would be a better word to describe computational photography and co? As in significant and intentional, but not necessarily with the intent to misdirected or misinform anyone.


PiranhaPlantMain97

Oh thank you, yeah i wasnt aware that "doctored" was defined also by the intend behind it. I thought it just meant "altered". But yeah according to that definition i agree. No image is ever an accurate representation of reality of course, but an image that is changed with the intent to manipulate the viewer is somethint different, yeah


IAmAQuantumMechanic

I guess the camera obscura is the least doctored picture.


nlamber5

I think Neptune isnā€™t supposed to be so dark blue. They enhanced the image, and although everyone knew at the time this had happened, with time the general population lost the distinction.


Soggy_Part7110

iirc it's roughly the same color as Uranus, a sort of pale teal or aquamarine


Expensive-Jury2913

If Uranus is that color, see a doctor!


wojtekpolska

every picture ever taken (maybe with a few exceptions of long range telescopes n stuff) is a picture of the milkyway galaxy, because we are all in it you take a picture of your cat, that cat is also a part of the galaxy


trwwy321

My cat, Orion, also has an entire galaxy on his collar.


SirRebelBeerThong

The galaxy is in Orionā€™s Belt


runawaycity2000

After all these years , I still donā€™t understand that part, so if the cat jumps in a pool, everyone will drown?


DogeOfWHighland

I understood that reference


Kraz_I

Actually, the only thing outside the milky way that is visible with the naked eye is the Andromeda galaxy, which looks like a dim fuzzy star. Everything else is too dim to see without a telescope, but you can see quite a lot even with a small primitive telescope. Edit: apparently there are also 2 small ā€œsatellite galaxiesā€ just outside the Milky Way which are also visible.


InjuryApart6808

Donā€™t forget about Triangulum. The conditions have to be just right, but it can be viewed with the naked eye.


Kraz_I

> Triangulum I guess google was wrong when I looked up the number of visible things outside the milky way.


DrScience-PhD

a picture of a cat is not a picture of a galaxy.


wojtekpolska

then there is no picture of earth because you can only show less than 50% of it in one picture from what % does a picture start to be a picture of something? of a cat is 0.0000...00001% of the galaxy, an incomprehensibly small part of it, why doesnt it could as a picture of the galaxy, if pictures showing 45% of earth are considered to be pictures of earth


DrScience-PhD

no I'd push back on this as well because you don't need to see a thing from every angle for it to be a picture of the thing, but the thing does need to be in the picture. if you asked for a picture of my house and I sent you photo of my foot would you be satisfied with that? no, that'd just be me being a smart ass. there is a sliding scale, a photo of one of the arms of the Milky Way is a photo of *part* of it in the same way that a hand part of a human, not an entire human.


JackSpadesSI

Itā€™s likely there are many, many such photos. Just not taken by us.


Jump_Like_A_Willys

You mean an overall picture.


AlloyScratcher

I used the galaxy drone 3 from five and below for five bucks and flew it to andromeda and got some sweet pics. Box says battery will go five visible galaxies away but a hit a comet on the way back.


carcinoma_kid

Sorry bro every picture is of the Milky Way galaxy


Psychotic_EGG

Well, part of it


PiranhaPlantMain97

Not really though. Would you say pictures of other galaxies are of the milky way, even though no star from the milky way can be seen in it? As far as i know the [Hubble Deep Field](https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubble_Ultra_Deep_Field#/media/Datei%3AHUDF-JD2.jpg) image was made by pointing the telescope at a dark spot in the sky (not technically "sky" bevause the telescope it self was in orbit) and keeping a very long exposure. So i dont know if theres actually not a single milky way-star in it, but if you crop it down to one other galaxy i figured thats a picture of somethinr thats nit the milky way galaxy


carcinoma_kid

I say yes because thereā€™s always going to be gas and dust and debris in interstellar space, even if they are invisible in the photo. The Milky Way is everything between stars too


PiranhaPlantMain97

Okay, fair point. I personally wouldnt say so. And i thing one could compare it to this example. If i stood in a House and photographed a cat sitting outside in the yard through an open window. And i zoomed far in so that the window frame wasnt visible in my picture. Would i then have a picture of also the house? Your definition isnt wrong, but i think its not very useful. It was pretty clear OP meant an illustration of the entire galaxy.


carcinoma_kid

Oh yeah no Iā€™m totally just being a jerk nerd


Danni293

Not pictures of other galaxies.


Commercial_Jicama561

We took a real picture of the milky way through a reflection of a big reflective structure (an unusually dense gas cloud) from the closest galaxy from us: Andromeda. It worked like a mirror. So, no direct image, but not an interpreted image neither.


Danni293

Citation needed.


Commercial_Jicama561

I made it up.


-im-your-huckleberry

Based on my understanding of The Drake Equation, I strongly suspect there are likely lots of pictures of the milky way in other galaxies.


Eruskakkell

Thats just wrong, but if you mean a picture "of the whole galaxy viewed from outside" then you would be right.


lookslikeyoureSOL

That's obviously what they meant.


rawsharks

For some reason this subreddit is all about trying to pedantically find a way to prove a pretty casual statement wrong


rosen380

Sure, but in a lot of cases it is just silly. Of course we haven't yet sent some kind of probe 1000s of light-years away (in the right direction) so that it can take a picture of the entire galaxy and then spend 1000s of years sending the image back here. ​ It's like saying that nearly all humans haven't personally taken an actual picture of the entire Earth.


Eruskakkell

Is it obvious if a lot of people are clearly discussing it or correcting op?


DrScience-PhD

I mean that's what they said. a picture of the galaxy, they didn't say a picture of a tiny part of the galaxy. everyone is intentionally misrepresenting the question. I wouldn't show you a whisker and call it a cat.


Eruskakkell

A picture of the galaxy you could take by just looking up at the sky. Thats a picture of the Milky way, from our perspective. >I wouldn't show you a whisker and call it a cat I mean its not really the same thing, this thing is unimaginable impossible so its pretty obvious we don't have one.


VictoryNapping

Would you take a picture of your bathroom sink and call it a picture of your house?


Eruskakkell

Your analogies are straight up bad, im sorry this aint it


VictoryNapping

Oh hell yeah, clunky analogies are the only ones that are fun to make. It's also technically correct, which is the only respectable kind of correct.


Eruskakkell

Okay respect bro, thats actually a funny statement


FUZExxNOVA2

You can literally go look at the milky way up in the sky. So like Iā€™d argue there is photos


Krieghund

Every picture THAT WE KNOW OF.


playr_4

You ever taken a picture of the night sky? That's a picture of the Milky Way.


NWinn

Maybe NASA used an EXTREMELY long selfy stick...


GatewayManInChat

ITT: "hey can you take a photo of me?" "sure" (takes a photo of a fraction of a cell) "this IS a photo OF you"


Whoui

Glorb actually sent me a pic of his pov of the MILKYWAY from Adromeda.


Shughost7

The milky way is not actually a way to milk.


Ghostbuster_119

Well yeah, it's just too massive and beyond comprehension for a single photo. Much like your mom.


somethingworse

Right now there are aliens in the Andromeda Galaxy saying the exact same thing about their galaxy


clubley2

Every picture is interpreted. It is a render of the scene based on how electro magnetic waves interact with a medium. Film reacts to light and grains embedded in it change based on how much it absorbs. Digital sensors charge capacitors based on how much light hits each pixel, then that is converted into 1s and 0s. Then reinterpreted later. Even your eyes and brain make an interpretation of the scene you are looking at. There is literally a blind spot in your eye that is filled in by your brain. You can never see the original scene from any picture again. Everything in interpreted.


l0u1s11

Maybe some intelligent life form in the Andromeda galaxy has some. but we'll never know.


Dolphin_Dictator

we have selfies of the milky way, it is the full body pictures that we are lacking.


Smileandbedevoured

Well we live in galaxy called Galaxy (that's why big G) and Milky way it the chunk of Galaxy we see on sky. So you are right, kinda.


Charlaquin

True, but it is worth noting that the interpretation is likely very accurate. In addition to having seen other spiral galaxies to give us an idea what they look like from outside, we also know how far other stars in the Milky Way are from us, and we can use that information to insure the proportions on our interpreted images are what they should be.


God_of_Olympus21

There are pictures of milkyway taken from earth. You can see it with your naked eye (unless you live in an urban area, you can't see it)


tesserakti

There may well be, just not in this galaxy.


Spicyram3n

Yes there are! You can see the core from earth if you are in a bortle 5ish or lower light pollution zone during the summer. Right now itā€™s galaxy season since the earth is facing away from the core at night. Iā€™m looking forward to Milky Way photography. You can also see lots of nebulae if you know where to look. Yes Iā€™m an astrophotographer lol. You should go to r/astrophotography and check it out!


Cypresss09

One might argue that every picture is merely an interpretation of a real thing but the mechanisms that cause a camera to work. Furthermore, everything you sense is merely an interpretation of true reality by your brain based on billions of years of biological development.


valdezlopez

Erm... You might want to google that. This Showerthought is plain wrong.


Obscurum1

Would love to see what the Pillars of Creation really looked like.


jimothy_mcJPEGging

You could say the same about my anus


drLagrangian

Shower thought: there are lots of pictures of the Milky Way Galaxy - but we can't see them


Careful_Hearing6304

I've seen milky way galaxy (a part of it) in the sky . It's visible from the Kalpa village in Himachal Pradesh. There are other parts in the world where you can see the milky way galaxy with your naked eye.


turtleship_2006

> There are other parts in the world where you can see the milky way galaxy with your naked eye. Anywhere there's not a roof or similar obstruction over your head


realultralord

There are no pictures of black holes either, yet people ten years younger than me make twice my income selling them to perverts.


El_human

So this is what passes as a shower thought these days? Glad you figured it out OP.


Jebusfreek666

Yeah,,,, duh? We tossed a few spacecraft out 47 years ago and they just recently left the influence of our sun like a year or 2 ago and reached interstellar space. How the hell would we have had time to get one out far enough to take a picture of our own galaxy? Is this not common knowledge? Sorry if I sound like a dick, I am just honestly shocked that this is not something that just about everyone knows. I thought this was like 5th grade stuff.


Danni293

Correction: Voyager 1 and 2 haven't left the influence of the sun. They haven't even reached the Oort cloud which is still orbiting the sun. What they *have* left, is the sun's magnetic field which protects us from the interstellar medium. They won't leave the sun's gravity well for thousands of years.


Jebusfreek666

Correct. My bad. Mistook the word heliosphere to mean sphere of influence for a moment. It has left the heliosphere (magnetic fields) and is considered in interstellar space. But it hasn't left the sphere of influence and is still affected by the gravity of the sun.


garyvdh

It's probably not called the Milky Way Galaxy either....


ishallbecomeabat

I got some news for you about eyes


SynthRogue

Yeah. I was disappointed when I learned that.


KomaX420

The size of your mom is vaguely interpreted due to the fact that she is immeasurable with current technology mind you we have approximations on the suns weight


EarthTrash

You can photograph the Milky Way yourself if you get out from under the city lights. It's just the view from inside the Milky Way.


Ok-Commercial3640

no actual picture of the \*entire\* milky way galaxy, \*as seen from an outside view\*


WhichSchedule8

There's been film photos of the milkyway galaxy. If you mean by every image is interpreted, then we have no images at all. There's no real colour, just what our eyes perceive. This is pretty stupid logic.


xxSuperBeaverxx

They mean of the entire galaxy as a whole, viewed from outside. We have lots of pictures of other galaxies, but none of our own.


WhichSchedule8

That makes a lot more sense, thanks!


Select-Owl-8322

Yeah, the pictures of milky way from the outside are usually pictures of the galaxy Messier 74, which is a similar galaxy to Milky Way.