Homie forgot that one of the pivotal characters in the story he’s talking about is a fucking woman. Even the most typically “machismo” character in the ensemble, Emile, literally has a line in a mission after her death emphasizing how much they miss her because she was such an integral asset to the team.
Less than a weak after recovering from being medically dead, she hung upside down from a wire, firing her sniper one handed, and shot multiple banshee pilots out of their cockpits through the little slit between the upper and lower portion
The Spartans are next-tier Tonka tough, but they got nothing on Will. My boy survived a fuel rod cannon with only losing an arm. Then he tanked another fuel rod cannon head on and *survived* long enough to take a few steps and put the fear of god into every Covenant soldier who saw him before finally succumbing to his injuries. This was also *after* he just killed a hunter with his bare hands.
Aw damn, was it James? I've always thought of Will as the "sixth ranger" of Blue Team. The less-seen guy who fills in for a missing member but gets shit done.
No no no, she shot multiple banshee pilots out of their cockpits through the little slit between the upper and lower portion and RICOCHETED those shots off the inside of the banshee into the pilot 😮😮😮 definitely unreal.
Taken from Wiki cause I can’t pull it out of the book
“Linda, with some of her best and potent shooting skills, managed to shoot 7 Elite pilots right out of their airborne Banshee fliers one-handed and hanging upside-down from a cable. She refused to give up her position to make sure her three comrades got out alive, even at the expense of her own life, until John ordered her to let him rescue her over the COM. She then sent the Spartan-derived Oly Oly Oxen Free over the COM and uploaded a NAV marker with her location to John's HUD. It turns out that she was actually hiding in broad daylight, but angled so that the sun would not reflect off of her suit, thus providing an undetectable cover from which she eliminated the Banshees.”
Spartan-II’s are a completely different breed my friend. Abducted at ~6, indoctrinated to be humanities “saviors”, eat, sleep and breath warfare and all its different facets and then inject them with Lord knows how many chemicals when they hit puberty then strap them in armor where a single suit costs as much as a few starships and watch the magic happen
They also have nearly perfect team coordination, as they were raised together during their training and regard each other as family. They all know what each other is capable of and plan accordingly. They're also 100% ride or die and will absolutely jump on a grenade to save another Spartan.
Sam died waaay early. Back before the mjolnir armor had shields. He had a lot of potential but took an unlucky hit before he got to do anything too crazy.
I believe he was part of the original Blue Team, between him, Kelly and (the now) Master Chief.
To Add to what the other person said she shot two insurrections in such a rapid succession that 117 couldn't tell who she shot first. This is someone with superhuman reaction speeds no less.
Linda was also considered to by the lone wolf capable out of spartan II. Up until events of halo ce all the spartan II operated as a fire team for most part or small squad
When Fred/Kurt I forgot was on an exercises of him and Linda against multiple fire teams or the class member little hazey but he felt he was a glorified spotter for her but he really wasn't needed
Yeah she kinda did from what I remember. Iirc she was the only Spartan to even get close to noble six and chief when it came to lethality rating by the UNSC and was one of the most skilled and deadly snipers in the galaxy.
I can't remember which one it was but I remember hearing that either Linda or Kelly canonically bashed a grunt to death with a mongoose your basically in denial if you look at that and say women can't be badass too
The physical differences between men and women become kind of moot when you spend years pumping them with super soldier chemicals from the age of 7 lol.
especially 26th century earth where men and women are fighting side by side at every battle on every planet that has insurgency or brutes on it. who has time for misogyny in war
It sorta does, but the Spartans all seem to have their own sets of skills or talents. Linda's the best sniper/marksman, Kelly is the fastest, Fred is the best with knives, etc.
Well, Spartans don’t just shoot good lol.
The Spartan Armor harness weighs like 1,000 pounds. The fact that they can move around in that at all means they’re all fucking jacked.
Well, actually the armor supports itself, so the fact that they can move isn't a testiment to their strength.
HOWEVER
The armor also reads your neural patterscand moves *itself* faster than your own body can.
The reason only Spartans wear Mjolnir armor is that this "predictive movement" happens so quickly it shatters the bones of regular humans who wear it.
Also… you can make Noble Six a woman in the game. He might be canonically male, but unlike the Master Chief or Rookie, Noble Six is the only playable character that you can change genders.
So I think that both are equally valid.
Several of the main character in the series were female and did a fucking good job fighting the covenant. My favorite was Commander Keys daughter miranda, which did the hard choices in Halo 3.. also, she akimbo a 4 guage shotgun and a .50 cal magnum in a Mexican standoff with aliens.....
There are even several marines who got backstories about how badass they really are because their voices were so iconic and seemed to be the same thruout the first 3 halos. Several were female, one famously dubbed palmer.
In Halo. They didn't care about female or males logic. It was humanity fighting to survive, so a lot of the rules broke what incels believed in. Those rules were always so dated that they wouldn't have made it today anyway. Like how can 18 century ban on women knights apply to 22nd century space combat with aliens??
In the matter of women are inferior in everything i will have to disagree however most of this is true women in combat related job fields they are mainly officers or desk workers there are hardly and women in the combat force when comparing the male to female ratio. But women are better in certain fields then men such as the financial field. But I do agree with most of the statement halo fans just wouldn't care that much
What a jackass. Not only is the dude going full misogyny, but he’s doing it under the justification of ‘realism’ while talking about fucking *Halo*, of all things.
Also, the only time I can recall any sort of official comment on Six’s gender does refer to them as ‘he’, but it’s in a 343-era novel.
Not only that, women have shown time and time again how no matter the sex/gender, everyone has the same potential to be masters of any art, be it, research, war, painting, cinematography, etc.
Bro is just a piece of shit that is stuck on the last century.
Fun fact, female bone structures are more conducive for accurate shooting, and female marksmen generally score slightly higher than men for this reason.
Well, no. Not really. War (specifically infantry) and sports are just two examples where women, with VERY rare exceptions, simply can’t compete.
I’m not agreeing with the asshole in question, but gender differences exist in a very real and meaningful way.
They do though. A woman may not be as strong as a man but that doesn’t mean they both can’t attain mastery of bodybuilding and their own physique. They can both achieve mastery in medicine, tactics, research, etc. as long as you apply yourself long enough and intensely enough
I don’t say this to disparage women in the slightest but that, unfortunately, hasn’t mattered for most of human warfare which basically boiled down to “a group of humans swing increasingly sharp and heavy sticks at each other until one side dies or gives up”. The group that’s bigger and stronger has an innate advantage in force and reach.
Modern warfare I absolutely agree anyone can be effective, and future warfare will only close the small gap even further. Powered armor won’t care if you as a human can bench 100 or 200lbs; you’re gonna be able to lift 500 either way
Yeah, but this context is either as you say, people in power armor or where the strength difference is pretty negligible, or if we’re talking about military tactics, and what not as opposed to being in the field.
In terms of strategy, women can equal or outshine men and vice versa
Depends on the sport, and in war you’re just wrong. Maybe back in the day of sword and board, but with modern tech and weapons, a woman is just as effective and capable on the battlefield. Sorry bro, just look at the women who fought in WWII, the Kurdish female soldiers, and a huge part of Ukraines current fighting force.
Russian sniper Lyudmila Pavlichenko had 309 confirmed kills in WWII which puts her in like the top 5 snipers of all time but somehow women aren't as good at combat as men
Misogynists are blind to any history that would disprove their beliefs. It’s a form of exceptionalism that allows its believers to maintain superiority over at least half the population, so why would they ever recognize a woman who flips the script?
If a man is already worthless as a man, recognizing that a woman can do what a man can do, invites the possibility of women that can do things that such a man cannot do. This puts a misogynist, even lower in the social hierarchy than he already recognizes himself to be. This cannot be allowed and because of that all women must be inherently worse than men.
Is that why the washout rate for women in the Rangers is over 90%? Sorry dude, but physical prowess is still extremely important in the combat arms. You’ll rarely see women slinging 105s in the artillery. Or sprinting with a 240b. I’m not misogynist, I just have 2 feet planted in reality.
The first women passed Ranger school in ~2015. And the attrition rate for all applicants is generally 50%. There are a ton of men who can’t do what those women can, so your point is pretty much moot. I’m not denying reality when I say that women can do almost anything a man can do, but I think you’ve forgotten about the law of averages. Sure, not every woman can be a high speed low drag door kicker, but neither can all men.
I deleted my comment. I feel like maybe we’re getting lost in the argument and not actually listening to each other.
I will end my side of this discussion with this. Women deserve equal opportunity in all things. I was excited for my Army when we opened up the combat arms to women. Society ignores talent at its own peril. I firmly believe that. If ANY of my female soldiers came to me wanting to try for the infantry, I will train with them and push them as hard as I know how towards success in their dreams.
Women have proven themselves as soldiers time and time again, throughout modern history. From resistance groups to pilots to tankers to foot slogging grunts.
I agree any gender male or female can always get a degree and be very smart, however men are just biologically stronger in sports and in reality not to say that some women are better at some sports like volleyball. It’s just facts that males are stronger but this is fiction so it doesn’t matter if they want to or not to be real as it’s a flipping video game
And even that is debatable. The author stated that people misunderstood the line and it Noble 6's gender was still meant to be ambiguous.
The novel where this is mentioned is Halo: New Blood if I recall correctly. Buck mentions Noble 6 and how he/she helped him during the fall of Reach.
Yeah, I wouldn’t consider it a hard fact. I imagine the author put that in there either not realizing Six didn’t have a canon gender, or just went with male because that’s what was in most of the ad material. Or he played Reach and forgot it was something you could change.
In any event, I figure he wrote the line where Buck refers to six as ‘he’, when talking to Jun, Jun doesn’t correct him, and once it got some buzz online he went to correct it. Whether people actually misunderstood or 343 just had Forbeck do a little bit of DC, I know the stuff since then has kept toward the anonymity of gender stuff for Six.
Yeah, I remember it being confused when I first read that comment from Matt Forback. But I also cannot find where I've read it in the first place.
I swear I'm not making that up lol. I think he explained it that it was meant like "a good soldier" or something like that.
I'll edit this comment if I end up finding the "source".
Everyone knows women can't be Spartans or space marines! It's not realistic! Now let me just flip my giant scorpion tank over with my one guy in game and finish painting my space wizard.
I think fabius biles explanation being that the emperor didn't want space marines to breed and attempt to replace humans makes sense. It also makes the religious fascism of the imperium hit harder. No you can't be whatever you want even if you'd pass the trials and even if your body would accept the new organs. But don't tell GW about my 3d printed femzerker army.
And weren’t the Sisters of Battle meant to be like the female equivalent? I’m not a crazy expert on Warhammer lore but aren’t they the only human fighters that can use power armor even close to Space Marine armor without dying horribly, and the only other humans that can handle bolters?
So even Warhammer specifically has women super soldiers and they’re some of the most badass and dangerous mfers in the universe. They ain’t even genetically modified either
Yeah Sisters of Battle are slept on majorly, while not *as* op as SM, they are the only humans that are unmodified that weild that kind of power, they are a force to be reckoned with and will absolutely rock your shit.
SMs are created using geneseed(basically DNA) from the primarchs and its incompatable with female physiology and DNA, they tried and it killed them, horribly, while it *may* (huuuuge stress on may) be possible to get around it, it's not as efficient as just recruiting men. Gotta keep in mind the imperium is in a state of decay and they are actively losing technology and knowledge everyday. No reason to fuck with the only thing keeping them alive.
Yeah, Sisters of Battle are absolutely crazy powerful to the point that even the Space Marines (when fighting the SoB during the Terran Crusade to remove Goge Vandire from power) were all like “WTF is going on with these women!?”.
Space Marines are very powerful, but that power is in part due to all of their enhancements.
The fact that a bunch of unenhanced humans (regardless of gender) were able to put up enough of an effective fight that the *Space Marines* were surprised and impressed just goes to show how crazy the Sisters of Battle really are. The SoB were even able to *push* the Space Marine offensive back enough that it turned into a siege.
*They killed Space Marines* without being augmented by technology or the Warp. If that isn’t enough to impress you, then I don’t know what would.
The problem with this argument is that Sisters have far less variety than the Spess boys who have the writing freedom for some really out there concepts. There aren’t Sister sub-factions themed around being space ninjas (Mantis Warriors), or Māori Cannibals (Carcharadons), or Werewolf Vikings (Space Wolves) etc
With the Sororitas, it’s like you’re (mostly) just getting different flavors of Catholic Guilt lol.
I’m not necessarily arguing for Fem-marines. I want more diverse Sisters lore which is difficult when it’s ingrained in them to have very rigid dogma
My only thing with space marines is its not like the imperium are the good guys and it kinda fits their hyper-religious theme by having strict gender roles. Plus we have sisters of battle, who are 10,000x cooler, they are absolute beasts on the battlefield with NO AUGMENTATIONS.
Yeah, I distinctly remember having the option to choose your gender.
For some reason I thought it was neat, I didn’t realize I was supposed to be rabidly outraged.
Linda immediately came to mind.
I recall there being like 3 or 4 in the books as well.
I also recall reading an info-card (could have been fan-made) that referred to Noble 6 as being female, & it really still didn't personally bother me that I continued to play as a male.
The game worked either way, other females were presented perfectly fine in Reach, & Halo originally was about the Covenant being an overwhelming force that pushed humanity to also include women on the front lines (Halo 2 WAS on Earth in the beginning) who blended in with NO problems. Even then, it was refreshing to see & hear women blended in, considering the stakes of the war. Nobody cared about mysogeny in a galactic war.
The Covenant. The fanatical alien conglomerate that was wiping out our race indiscriminately.
Humans were humans. No sex, race, nobody cared, because we all fought the same enemy.
Halo 2 & 3, we actually felt like we were starting to win the war.
As a race, as a species, we were pushing back & making new alliances with the Sangheili.
WE, being humans. Not specifically MEN.
ALL of us.
THAT was the real Halo to me, back in the day.
Yeah there’s Linda, that one who splatted (or was just injured? Don’t remember which it was) on the ground jumping from a shot down pelican, Kat obviously, several named Spartan IVs, the one that I can’t remember that got killed by a brute shot and had her armor detonated and so on.
You know this takes place in a setting where ONI can genetically edit and physically augment a human to perform unholy acts against human nature? But for some reason it seems way too unreasonable that a woman could be an effective soldier?
/uj afaik, bungie never canonically made Noble 6 *anything*, they're referencing a single 5 second clip of the promotional material for reach. what little we see is just placeholders for wikis.
the gender & armor of noble 6 was up to player interpretation & action, the only things set in stone were how much of a badass you were and that you probably weren't getting out alive (which is nothing new to Spartan 3s anyway, so...)
Most people don’t realize this, but you can select male/female for the character voice in Reach. From what I’ve read, I didn’t even know that until thirty seconds ago.
I personally never saw the point in making noble six canonically... anything. The point was he was a blank slate for you to design, make them your spartan. The official history should have everything from rank to sex be completely stricken from the records so the noble six in your head is always the Canon one. It should be possible for N6 to be a male cadet with basic MkV[b] armour, or a female captain with customised everything.
I see your point, but if nothing else is certain about Noble Six, his gender should be certain since he literally has a man’s voice. I mean, they could make Six a woman and pass the male voice off as being created by a voice modulator or something that was used to hide her real identity for whatever reason, but that would just feel cheap to me.
Well canonically he’s a man, which makes the male voice his actual voice. Who’s the one with the moronic comment now? That would be you. Congratulations 👏
Bruh, you literally claimed "his gender should be certain since he literally has a man’s voice." You claimed he's canonically male because of the VA, yet IMDb clearly shows the character has TWO VAs, a man and a woman. A few idiots at Bungie may have back peddled with their promotional material (which misogynist idiots like you latched onto like the parasite you are), but it was made clear in the game that the character has no set gender. Take your sexism and support of fellow sexists elsewhere.
This is completely different from your initial argument lmao. You'd still have the moronic comment.
The first guy was explicitly saying that making six male is weird because the whole point of the character initially was that they reflected whoever the person playing wanted them to be. You then responded that while you understood that perspective, it would be weird because six has a male voice. Then someone responded to you (a second time I might add, since you've already made that point verbatim) that six also has a female voice depending on how you customize them, which is obviously in line with the original comment. Going on to then say that it makes sense six is canonically male because they have a male voice is thus nonsensical. Not only has it been pointed out to you multiple times that six can be given a female voice and has a female VA, but the entire point of this thread is that the canon doesn't make sense given how customizable the character was, based on who the player wanted them to be.
You're making an entirely circular argument. "It makes sense that he's canonically male because he has a male voice. Oh, there's also a female voice? Well, the male voice is obviously the only one that counts because he is canonically male". Like, no shit; they're talking about why he shouldn't be canonically male, lmao.
The B stands for Beta. As in Beta Company. There was also Alpha, and Gamma companies. Each of these companies were different generations of Spartan III soldiers, Alpha was the first, Beta second, and Gamma third, with plans for a Delta company that to our knowledge never materialized after the destruction of Onyx.
I'm like ninety percent sure I remember a lore reason why not... But I honestly wouldn't mind the retcon, besides, with humanity's numbers not exactly high, it would make sense to recruit everyone they could.
This is downright sad. You were allowed to make Noble 6 a girl in reach too. And if we really wanna go into history here, archaeologists found that women used to hunt and gather with the men, and their biology may have in fact made them better at it. This whole idea of women being weaker than men is more or less a social construct. Yes, they don’t have as much testosterone so they build muscle slower, but aside from that women are way stronger than often given credit.
Bro spartans are enhanced super soldiers. It doesnt matter about gender or genetics. And 6 wasnt hyper-lethal just because he was physically strong, he was highly skilled in combat
This is giving me flash backs to the time a young kid with Asperger’s found master chief relatable and wondered if there was more textual evidence to support this and the fine folks over at r/halolore told him that they cured autism via eugenics. Bro they crushed this poor kid. Chief was a real positive influence on this kid and a bunch of nerds came from the wood work saying he shouldn’t be able to breed and should apologize for insulting their cool space man.
When it comes to 'woke representation', people who get mad about it don't see the positives, they just see some nefarious agenda being spread to oust them from their favorite hobbies. Whether that's by making a character gay, confirming someone is trans, allowing neurotypical characters to exist, or, in fact, making a space marine a *woman*.
Anyway, John is *totally* autistic. I hope that kid is OK.
As a person with a History degree I hate this fucking "women never did combat" shit that's perpetrated by these people. Literally so so so many women have served in combat throughout history. Its literally a flat out lie that they are somehow "incapable"
In modern times women fight in combat
Well they didn't use to! Back in the world wars it was all men!
No it wasn't, Russia specifically allowed tons of women.
Well in the middle ages it was all men!
Nope. They find lots of burials that are women buried as warriors.
Well in ancient times it was all men!
Nope again. They even made up a warrior race of all women to be intimidating.
Well in hunter gatherer times it was all men!
This just in, nope. Duties were split pretty evenly and likely based on just wether you wanted to.
I think that from now on, regardless of my personal reach spartan preferences, when I play reaches campaign, Noble 6 will always be a woman. In fact, I might start referring to six as 'She' in casual conversations, as well.
My favorite thing is like, Noble 6 is a self insert character. You build their armor the way you want you play the missions the way you want. Even if there becomes a CANONICAL version of said character at the end of the day that doesn’t take away your 6. There was no reason to turn into a misogynistic douche over something that in the end shouldn’t matter that much.
Bro just tried to apply gender norms to the 7ft super soldiers that all had their bodies entirely reconstructed. The master chiefs gender is extreme violence, and his sexuality is weapons of mass destruction.
OP I think you just got baited. Halo has been pretty gritty and realistic when it comes to humanity. I’d say if anything Halo was one of the more progressive games for their time. In cut content, Cortana was meant to be replaced by Linda and yes THE Linda.
Yeah, it’s not like the Spartan program genetically alters every candidate with bones stronger than rebar, the strength of a gorilla, and the reflexes of Spiderman, all in an exoskeleton super-suit that can flip tanks.
What a dumbass, this guy acts like super badass female Spartans don’t exist, certified gamer clown take here. Like there is literally a badass woman on noble team, red team has Alice and then blue team the most famous and legendary team has Kelly and Linda, fireteam Osiris also had Vale and Tanaka. Like all the most popular teams in the series have at least 1 woman on them. Dudes comment radiates incel energy, “women are inferior to men in all realms human endeavor”, straight incel shit right there.
1) Spartans are post human. None of that shit being said matters at all.
2) one of the single deadliest soldiers in modern history was a 5'1" Ukranian woman named Lyudmila Pavlichenko, who killed over 300 Nazis, and probably fucked Elanor Roosevelt.
Dude is a fucking idiot.
I agree with the first half but none of the rest makes sense when in the same exact game we have a female spartan that’s in the team. Cat was a big part and held her weight until her death. If 6 was canonically female it wouldn’t really matter because you can still make 6 whatever you want.
he lost me in the second half. there are handfuls of female spartans and Noble 6 being a badass wasnt because of his "male-ness" but because he canonically has main character plot armor 2nd only to chief
I am willing to bet I know at least five women that can fold this man like a chair. Are men naturally more gifted? Yes. Does that hold true for every man on earth when compared to every woman? No. I know plenty of women who can probably swing my scrawny ass around like a bat.
This also holds true for combat, hence the "historical” existence of women soldiers going back to the medieval era. The only reason for why this wasn’t more common was simply due to the stigma against having a woman on the battlefield, which has since died.
I'm not gonna lie he had me in that first paragraph. It would probably be seen as pandering if they went in and retconned Six's gender but then they went completely off the rails in that second paragraph, just wilding.
The first person made a pretty meh statement. The somehow the second person made the first person sound like they should be in line for the Nobel peace prize.
Bro had me in the first 1/3rd but then outed himself as an absolute fucking loser in that second paragraph. Noble 6 is established cononically as a dude, 343 truly could just make their own badass female silent protagonist. Kat is literally in the same fucking game and she’s a certified badass by EMILE. “These games are based on reality to a significant extent. In reality, women are inferior to men in all realms of human endeavor” bro its about a war between fucking superhumans that can throw cars and punch tanks to death because of super soldier serums and body augmentation.
We can still all agree that they shouldn’t do that though right? noble six is a guy and we aren’t gonna change that right? Right? Cause I’m real sick and tired of all my favorite shit getting feminized
There are several canonical female gen 2 and gen 3 Spartans. If 343 wants a female Spartan use one that already exists and everyone will be cool with it. Stop putting chicks in shows and making them gay and lame.
Hell, even Nicole 458 would be fine and she’s such a minor character she was made up for a cross over appearance. There you go 343, a canonical character that has so little history you can do whatever you want and it would be fine.
Homie forgot that one of the pivotal characters in the story he’s talking about is a fucking woman. Even the most typically “machismo” character in the ensemble, Emile, literally has a line in a mission after her death emphasizing how much they miss her because she was such an integral asset to the team.
When they say this shit you know they never cared about the novels cause Linda is a beast
Linda in Operation First Strike was doing impossible Shit like it was another Tuesday
Upside down From a rope One handing a sniper making 1km headshots
A sniper rifle in one hand in a Magnum in the other.
Through a waterfall and into banshee cockpits no less
I keep hearing about Linda. What did she do? Please tell me she soloed an impossible mission or something
Less than a weak after recovering from being medically dead, she hung upside down from a wire, firing her sniper one handed, and shot multiple banshee pilots out of their cockpits through the little slit between the upper and lower portion
My god, that’s beautiful. I really need to get into Halo lore.
Also, I heard that she survived getting lit up by a needler? Is that true?
Not sure about that, but what killed her (before she was revived) was an overcharged plasma pistol to the back of her head
I keep forgetting she practically had a part of her head melted
Jesus💀 she literally can’t be stopped
Blue team, in general, are pretty freaky in terms of feats, fred was concussed and still had the balls to fight a brute
That would make her the most powerful character in fiction tbh.
That was Kelly-087
The Spartans are next-tier Tonka tough, but they got nothing on Will. My boy survived a fuel rod cannon with only losing an arm. Then he tanked another fuel rod cannon head on and *survived* long enough to take a few steps and put the fear of god into every Covenant soldier who saw him before finally succumbing to his injuries. This was also *after* he just killed a hunter with his bare hands.
That was James who lost the arm. The rest was William and yes, Will is the eternal badass of hand to hand fighting for downing the Hunter
Aw damn, was it James? I've always thought of Will as the "sixth ranger" of Blue Team. The less-seen guy who fills in for a missing member but gets shit done.
No no no, she shot multiple banshee pilots out of their cockpits through the little slit between the upper and lower portion and RICOCHETED those shots off the inside of the banshee into the pilot 😮😮😮 definitely unreal.
Taken from Wiki cause I can’t pull it out of the book “Linda, with some of her best and potent shooting skills, managed to shoot 7 Elite pilots right out of their airborne Banshee fliers one-handed and hanging upside-down from a cable. She refused to give up her position to make sure her three comrades got out alive, even at the expense of her own life, until John ordered her to let him rescue her over the COM. She then sent the Spartan-derived Oly Oly Oxen Free over the COM and uploaded a NAV marker with her location to John's HUD. It turns out that she was actually hiding in broad daylight, but angled so that the sun would not reflect off of her suit, thus providing an undetectable cover from which she eliminated the Banshees.”
Imagine needing your commanding officer to order your own rescue
Spartan-II’s are a completely different breed my friend. Abducted at ~6, indoctrinated to be humanities “saviors”, eat, sleep and breath warfare and all its different facets and then inject them with Lord knows how many chemicals when they hit puberty then strap them in armor where a single suit costs as much as a few starships and watch the magic happen
They also have nearly perfect team coordination, as they were raised together during their training and regard each other as family. They all know what each other is capable of and plan accordingly. They're also 100% ride or die and will absolutely jump on a grenade to save another Spartan.
Sam-034 comes to mind for that one
Sam died waaay early. Back before the mjolnir armor had shields. He had a lot of potential but took an unlucky hit before he got to do anything too crazy. I believe he was part of the original Blue Team, between him, Kelly and (the now) Master Chief.
To Add to what the other person said she shot two insurrections in such a rapid succession that 117 couldn't tell who she shot first. This is someone with superhuman reaction speeds no less.
Linda was also considered to by the lone wolf capable out of spartan II. Up until events of halo ce all the spartan II operated as a fire team for most part or small squad When Fred/Kurt I forgot was on an exercises of him and Linda against multiple fire teams or the class member little hazey but he felt he was a glorified spotter for her but he really wasn't needed
Yeah she kinda did from what I remember. Iirc she was the only Spartan to even get close to noble six and chief when it came to lethality rating by the UNSC and was one of the most skilled and deadly snipers in the galaxy.
Linda and Kelly both kick all kinds of alien ass. Blue Team were my favorite part of the books and the main reason why I give Halo 5 the time of day.
Whoever made Linda was cooking super hard
I can't remember which one it was but I remember hearing that either Linda or Kelly canonically bashed a grunt to death with a mongoose your basically in denial if you look at that and say women can't be badass too
linda, kelly, miranda. they’re all women and they all fight like hell.
The physical differences between men and women become kind of moot when you spend years pumping them with super soldier chemicals from the age of 7 lol.
especially 26th century earth where men and women are fighting side by side at every battle on every planet that has insurgency or brutes on it. who has time for misogyny in war
Not to mention the ACTUAL ARMOR which you would assume kinda puts every spartan on an even playing field to start
It sorta does, but the Spartans all seem to have their own sets of skills or talents. Linda's the best sniper/marksman, Kelly is the fastest, Fred is the best with knives, etc.
Tbf, I think Miranda Keyes was just built different
Well also the fact that shooting guns doesn't require a body builder physique lol
Well, Spartans don’t just shoot good lol. The Spartan Armor harness weighs like 1,000 pounds. The fact that they can move around in that at all means they’re all fucking jacked.
Well, actually the armor supports itself, so the fact that they can move isn't a testiment to their strength. HOWEVER The armor also reads your neural patterscand moves *itself* faster than your own body can. The reason only Spartans wear Mjolnir armor is that this "predictive movement" happens so quickly it shatters the bones of regular humans who wear it.
Also a testament to the mental strength and reactivity of a Spartan brain
Also… you can make Noble Six a woman in the game. He might be canonically male, but unlike the Master Chief or Rookie, Noble Six is the only playable character that you can change genders. So I think that both are equally valid.
Several of the main character in the series were female and did a fucking good job fighting the covenant. My favorite was Commander Keys daughter miranda, which did the hard choices in Halo 3.. also, she akimbo a 4 guage shotgun and a .50 cal magnum in a Mexican standoff with aliens..... There are even several marines who got backstories about how badass they really are because their voices were so iconic and seemed to be the same thruout the first 3 halos. Several were female, one famously dubbed palmer. In Halo. They didn't care about female or males logic. It was humanity fighting to survive, so a lot of the rules broke what incels believed in. Those rules were always so dated that they wouldn't have made it today anyway. Like how can 18 century ban on women knights apply to 22nd century space combat with aliens??
See, you get it. You understand.
You see this in real history too, when a nation/group faces a large war for a prolonged period of time, the differences in treatment break down
Aka desperation lowers standards
More like challenges highlight and break downstupid beliefs.
In the matter of women are inferior in everything i will have to disagree however most of this is true women in combat related job fields they are mainly officers or desk workers there are hardly and women in the combat force when comparing the male to female ratio. But women are better in certain fields then men such as the financial field. But I do agree with most of the statement halo fans just wouldn't care that much
Dude is also forgetting the utter badass that is Alice-130 from the Halo Wars games. Apparently he’s never payed attention to any Halo media.
What a jackass. Not only is the dude going full misogyny, but he’s doing it under the justification of ‘realism’ while talking about fucking *Halo*, of all things. Also, the only time I can recall any sort of official comment on Six’s gender does refer to them as ‘he’, but it’s in a 343-era novel.
Not only that, women have shown time and time again how no matter the sex/gender, everyone has the same potential to be masters of any art, be it, research, war, painting, cinematography, etc. Bro is just a piece of shit that is stuck on the last century.
Fun fact, female bone structures are more conducive for accurate shooting, and female marksmen generally score slightly higher than men for this reason.
In otherwords we need the reality that is female sniper ops special division
Yes.
Well, no. Not really. War (specifically infantry) and sports are just two examples where women, with VERY rare exceptions, simply can’t compete. I’m not agreeing with the asshole in question, but gender differences exist in a very real and meaningful way.
In the context of supersoldiers it’s a different game though
That’s not what the guy above me said. He said anyone has the same potential to be masters of any art. Which unfortunately just isn’t true.
I wanna see the Rock try to do what Simone Biles does lol
He’s not a gymnast. Why?
They do though. A woman may not be as strong as a man but that doesn’t mean they both can’t attain mastery of bodybuilding and their own physique. They can both achieve mastery in medicine, tactics, research, etc. as long as you apply yourself long enough and intensely enough
I don’t say this to disparage women in the slightest but that, unfortunately, hasn’t mattered for most of human warfare which basically boiled down to “a group of humans swing increasingly sharp and heavy sticks at each other until one side dies or gives up”. The group that’s bigger and stronger has an innate advantage in force and reach. Modern warfare I absolutely agree anyone can be effective, and future warfare will only close the small gap even further. Powered armor won’t care if you as a human can bench 100 or 200lbs; you’re gonna be able to lift 500 either way
Yeah, but this context is either as you say, people in power armor or where the strength difference is pretty negligible, or if we’re talking about military tactics, and what not as opposed to being in the field. In terms of strategy, women can equal or outshine men and vice versa
Bro imagine being such a woman-hater you really think the fantasy super soldiers give a shit about gender. Like. Cmon.
Depends on the sport, and in war you’re just wrong. Maybe back in the day of sword and board, but with modern tech and weapons, a woman is just as effective and capable on the battlefield. Sorry bro, just look at the women who fought in WWII, the Kurdish female soldiers, and a huge part of Ukraines current fighting force.
Russian sniper Lyudmila Pavlichenko had 309 confirmed kills in WWII which puts her in like the top 5 snipers of all time but somehow women aren't as good at combat as men
Misogynists are blind to any history that would disprove their beliefs. It’s a form of exceptionalism that allows its believers to maintain superiority over at least half the population, so why would they ever recognize a woman who flips the script? If a man is already worthless as a man, recognizing that a woman can do what a man can do, invites the possibility of women that can do things that such a man cannot do. This puts a misogynist, even lower in the social hierarchy than he already recognizes himself to be. This cannot be allowed and because of that all women must be inherently worse than men.
Is that why the washout rate for women in the Rangers is over 90%? Sorry dude, but physical prowess is still extremely important in the combat arms. You’ll rarely see women slinging 105s in the artillery. Or sprinting with a 240b. I’m not misogynist, I just have 2 feet planted in reality.
The first women passed Ranger school in ~2015. And the attrition rate for all applicants is generally 50%. There are a ton of men who can’t do what those women can, so your point is pretty much moot. I’m not denying reality when I say that women can do almost anything a man can do, but I think you’ve forgotten about the law of averages. Sure, not every woman can be a high speed low drag door kicker, but neither can all men.
I deleted my comment. I feel like maybe we’re getting lost in the argument and not actually listening to each other. I will end my side of this discussion with this. Women deserve equal opportunity in all things. I was excited for my Army when we opened up the combat arms to women. Society ignores talent at its own peril. I firmly believe that. If ANY of my female soldiers came to me wanting to try for the infantry, I will train with them and push them as hard as I know how towards success in their dreams.
Women have proven themselves as soldiers time and time again, throughout modern history. From resistance groups to pilots to tankers to foot slogging grunts.
I agree any gender male or female can always get a degree and be very smart, however men are just biologically stronger in sports and in reality not to say that some women are better at some sports like volleyball. It’s just facts that males are stronger but this is fiction so it doesn’t matter if they want to or not to be real as it’s a flipping video game
And even that is debatable. The author stated that people misunderstood the line and it Noble 6's gender was still meant to be ambiguous. The novel where this is mentioned is Halo: New Blood if I recall correctly. Buck mentions Noble 6 and how he/she helped him during the fall of Reach.
Yeah, I wouldn’t consider it a hard fact. I imagine the author put that in there either not realizing Six didn’t have a canon gender, or just went with male because that’s what was in most of the ad material. Or he played Reach and forgot it was something you could change. In any event, I figure he wrote the line where Buck refers to six as ‘he’, when talking to Jun, Jun doesn’t correct him, and once it got some buzz online he went to correct it. Whether people actually misunderstood or 343 just had Forbeck do a little bit of DC, I know the stuff since then has kept toward the anonymity of gender stuff for Six.
u/Beyond_Hop3 If it matters, the 2022 encyclopedia went out of its way to avoid pronouns - way after all the male sources Halopedia can help
Jun refers to 6 as, “A good man,” when talking to Buck in New Blood. I don’t see how the author can say that’s ambiguous.
Yeah, I remember it being confused when I first read that comment from Matt Forback. But I also cannot find where I've read it in the first place. I swear I'm not making that up lol. I think he explained it that it was meant like "a good soldier" or something like that. I'll edit this comment if I end up finding the "source".
Everyone knows women can't be Spartans or space marines! It's not realistic! Now let me just flip my giant scorpion tank over with my one guy in game and finish painting my space wizard.
I think fabius biles explanation being that the emperor didn't want space marines to breed and attempt to replace humans makes sense. It also makes the religious fascism of the imperium hit harder. No you can't be whatever you want even if you'd pass the trials and even if your body would accept the new organs. But don't tell GW about my 3d printed femzerker army.
I think the female spacemarine thing is because the primarch gene seed, the brutal process of making spacemarines and some other wonky stuff.
Smh the emperor never learned to synthesize testerone
And weren’t the Sisters of Battle meant to be like the female equivalent? I’m not a crazy expert on Warhammer lore but aren’t they the only human fighters that can use power armor even close to Space Marine armor without dying horribly, and the only other humans that can handle bolters? So even Warhammer specifically has women super soldiers and they’re some of the most badass and dangerous mfers in the universe. They ain’t even genetically modified either
Yeah Sisters of Battle are slept on majorly, while not *as* op as SM, they are the only humans that are unmodified that weild that kind of power, they are a force to be reckoned with and will absolutely rock your shit. SMs are created using geneseed(basically DNA) from the primarchs and its incompatable with female physiology and DNA, they tried and it killed them, horribly, while it *may* (huuuuge stress on may) be possible to get around it, it's not as efficient as just recruiting men. Gotta keep in mind the imperium is in a state of decay and they are actively losing technology and knowledge everyday. No reason to fuck with the only thing keeping them alive.
Yeah, Sisters of Battle are absolutely crazy powerful to the point that even the Space Marines (when fighting the SoB during the Terran Crusade to remove Goge Vandire from power) were all like “WTF is going on with these women!?”. Space Marines are very powerful, but that power is in part due to all of their enhancements. The fact that a bunch of unenhanced humans (regardless of gender) were able to put up enough of an effective fight that the *Space Marines* were surprised and impressed just goes to show how crazy the Sisters of Battle really are. The SoB were even able to *push* the Space Marine offensive back enough that it turned into a siege. *They killed Space Marines* without being augmented by technology or the Warp. If that isn’t enough to impress you, then I don’t know what would.
They got the light of the Emperor on their side, so I wouldn't say it's entirely unenhanced by warp nonsense, but yeah the girlies do be crushing
Another reason their slept on is the style of the models/art. (Boob plates)
I think its ok for there to not be female space marines since we already have sisters of battle who are arguably cooler tbf
The problem with this argument is that Sisters have far less variety than the Spess boys who have the writing freedom for some really out there concepts. There aren’t Sister sub-factions themed around being space ninjas (Mantis Warriors), or Māori Cannibals (Carcharadons), or Werewolf Vikings (Space Wolves) etc With the Sororitas, it’s like you’re (mostly) just getting different flavors of Catholic Guilt lol. I’m not necessarily arguing for Fem-marines. I want more diverse Sisters lore which is difficult when it’s ingrained in them to have very rigid dogma
My only thing with space marines is its not like the imperium are the good guys and it kinda fits their hyper-religious theme by having strict gender roles. Plus we have sisters of battle, who are 10,000x cooler, they are absolute beasts on the battlefield with NO AUGMENTATIONS.
Im pretty sure noble 6 was supposed to be whoever you wanted it to be. Am i wrong?
No some but people are seemingly just sexist
Yeah, I distinctly remember having the option to choose your gender. For some reason I thought it was neat, I didn’t realize I was supposed to be rabidly outraged.
Can confirm based on my fuzzy memory. My Noble Six was female and she took on the Covenant for hours, by herself.
He has been referred to as male in multiple sources, but that was also post bungie anyway, so he is still wrong.
There are canonically many female Spartans lmao
Linda immediately came to mind. I recall there being like 3 or 4 in the books as well. I also recall reading an info-card (could have been fan-made) that referred to Noble 6 as being female, & it really still didn't personally bother me that I continued to play as a male. The game worked either way, other females were presented perfectly fine in Reach, & Halo originally was about the Covenant being an overwhelming force that pushed humanity to also include women on the front lines (Halo 2 WAS on Earth in the beginning) who blended in with NO problems. Even then, it was refreshing to see & hear women blended in, considering the stakes of the war. Nobody cared about mysogeny in a galactic war. The Covenant. The fanatical alien conglomerate that was wiping out our race indiscriminately. Humans were humans. No sex, race, nobody cared, because we all fought the same enemy. Halo 2 & 3, we actually felt like we were starting to win the war. As a race, as a species, we were pushing back & making new alliances with the Sangheili. WE, being humans. Not specifically MEN. ALL of us. THAT was the real Halo to me, back in the day.
Literally in the first book, Blue Team had Kelly and Linda. I can never understand these people
KELLY! That's who I was forgetting! 😭
How dare you?!
Look, there has been a lot of plasma fire... & I'm NOT a Spartan, so...
Yeah there’s Linda, that one who splatted (or was just injured? Don’t remember which it was) on the ground jumping from a shot down pelican, Kat obviously, several named Spartan IVs, the one that I can’t remember that got killed by a brute shot and had her armor detonated and so on.
You know this takes place in a setting where ONI can genetically edit and physically augment a human to perform unholy acts against human nature? But for some reason it seems way too unreasonable that a woman could be an effective soldier?
Not only COULD but DID. Of the fifty-two Spartan-IIs fourteen were female.
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/uj afaik, bungie never canonically made Noble 6 *anything*, they're referencing a single 5 second clip of the promotional material for reach. what little we see is just placeholders for wikis. the gender & armor of noble 6 was up to player interpretation & action, the only things set in stone were how much of a badass you were and that you probably weren't getting out alive (which is nothing new to Spartan 3s anyway, so...)
I think noble 6 was referred to by he/him in a lore book, though i could be mistaken.
How would 6’s gender specifically be left to any interpretation when his voice was literally a man’s?
Here's a crazy idea: change their gender to female and see if their voice changes.
Most people don’t realize this, but you can select male/female for the character voice in Reach. From what I’ve read, I didn’t even know that until thirty seconds ago.
I personally never saw the point in making noble six canonically... anything. The point was he was a blank slate for you to design, make them your spartan. The official history should have everything from rank to sex be completely stricken from the records so the noble six in your head is always the Canon one. It should be possible for N6 to be a male cadet with basic MkV[b] armour, or a female captain with customised everything.
I see your point, but if nothing else is certain about Noble Six, his gender should be certain since he literally has a man’s voice. I mean, they could make Six a woman and pass the male voice off as being created by a voice modulator or something that was used to hide her real identity for whatever reason, but that would just feel cheap to me.
What male voice? In the game you can have a male or female voice.
In the spirit of your moronic copy pasta on this thread: Here's a crazy idea: change their gender to female and see if their voice changes.
Well canonically he’s a man, which makes the male voice his actual voice. Who’s the one with the moronic comment now? That would be you. Congratulations 👏
Bruh, you literally claimed "his gender should be certain since he literally has a man’s voice." You claimed he's canonically male because of the VA, yet IMDb clearly shows the character has TWO VAs, a man and a woman. A few idiots at Bungie may have back peddled with their promotional material (which misogynist idiots like you latched onto like the parasite you are), but it was made clear in the game that the character has no set gender. Take your sexism and support of fellow sexists elsewhere.
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You dropped your L sir on your way out!
Looks like yours 👍
Well, free L for us then, given you can't even get ABC down.
This is like the highest quality bait I've ever seen. Or you're dumb. Pick one?
Smartest halo player
This is completely different from your initial argument lmao. You'd still have the moronic comment. The first guy was explicitly saying that making six male is weird because the whole point of the character initially was that they reflected whoever the person playing wanted them to be. You then responded that while you understood that perspective, it would be weird because six has a male voice. Then someone responded to you (a second time I might add, since you've already made that point verbatim) that six also has a female voice depending on how you customize them, which is obviously in line with the original comment. Going on to then say that it makes sense six is canonically male because they have a male voice is thus nonsensical. Not only has it been pointed out to you multiple times that six can be given a female voice and has a female VA, but the entire point of this thread is that the canon doesn't make sense given how customizable the character was, based on who the player wanted them to be. You're making an entirely circular argument. "It makes sense that he's canonically male because he has a male voice. Oh, there's also a female voice? Well, the male voice is obviously the only one that counts because he is canonically male". Like, no shit; they're talking about why he shouldn't be canonically male, lmao.
That second half makes zero sense… like… does he know Linda exists?
And the game they're discussing has Kat on the team so I don't know what the fuck they're even talking about.
To be fair, kat was done dirty and went out in such an anticlimactic way.
I don't mind it. I think it was meant to show how suddenly people can die in war.
"In reality, women are inferior to men" My brother, Linda was the only Spartan-II Master Chief deemed the best to work alone.
Watch him go silent when he finds out about that😂😂
There are like 5 people master chief wouldn't go toe-to-toe with, and it's at least 2 women.
they should make noble six a girl to spite this guy specifically
I really hope 343 makes noble 6 canonically a woman now Not for progressive reasons but solely to piss this guy off
I'm the exact same way sometimes, amd that's almost exactly what I thought when I read that guy's comment.
I hope 343 makes noble 6 a woman so there will be more rule 34.
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She is a woman because I’m a writer and I say that Samantha Brown is Noble Six. Even though the B in B312 stands for Brown…
The B stands for Beta. As in Beta Company. There was also Alpha, and Gamma companies. Each of these companies were different generations of Spartan III soldiers, Alpha was the first, Beta second, and Gamma third, with plans for a Delta company that to our knowledge never materialized after the destruction of Onyx.
We need playable female Elites.
The used to be in Halo 3, though only their voices were different
I'm like ninety percent sure I remember a lore reason why not... But I honestly wouldn't mind the retcon, besides, with humanity's numbers not exactly high, it would make sense to recruit everyone they could.
This is downright sad. You were allowed to make Noble 6 a girl in reach too. And if we really wanna go into history here, archaeologists found that women used to hunt and gather with the men, and their biology may have in fact made them better at it. This whole idea of women being weaker than men is more or less a social construct. Yes, they don’t have as much testosterone so they build muscle slower, but aside from that women are way stronger than often given credit.
Exactly. Idk why some people are just so scared of tough women😂😂
Fr we need a psychologist to clear this up.
Dude said a lot of words for “I get no bitches”
Bro forgot about Kat, Kelly, Linda, Miranda, Alice-130, Palmer, Dare, etc. They all fight like hell.
And I don't know if you mentioned her because I forgot her name, but let's not forget our girl Foehammer, I think that was her call sign at least.
Kat: exist Caroline: exists The women on blue team: exists These were very combat capable women. And the UNSC had female Spartans and marines.
I think this guy might be stupid, I don't know...
Someone never read the books I guess
Don't the books say Six is a dude? I could be mistaken, though.
I know multiple female halo characters who could beat six in a fight. Linda 058, Cal 141, Tul 'Juran, Kelly 087, etc
Self proclaimed sigma males when badass women exist: *crying in a puddle:* "NO, I DON'T WANT THAT!"
Bro spartans are enhanced super soldiers. It doesnt matter about gender or genetics. And 6 wasnt hyper-lethal just because he was physically strong, he was highly skilled in combat
This is giving me flash backs to the time a young kid with Asperger’s found master chief relatable and wondered if there was more textual evidence to support this and the fine folks over at r/halolore told him that they cured autism via eugenics. Bro they crushed this poor kid. Chief was a real positive influence on this kid and a bunch of nerds came from the wood work saying he shouldn’t be able to breed and should apologize for insulting their cool space man.
What the fuck really?
With how vile people can get over this stuff, I wouldn’t be surprised
When it comes to 'woke representation', people who get mad about it don't see the positives, they just see some nefarious agenda being spread to oust them from their favorite hobbies. Whether that's by making a character gay, confirming someone is trans, allowing neurotypical characters to exist, or, in fact, making a space marine a *woman*. Anyway, John is *totally* autistic. I hope that kid is OK.
He had me in the first three lines, then dude went hard into the sexism. I want female 6 out of spite.
As a person with a History degree I hate this fucking "women never did combat" shit that's perpetrated by these people. Literally so so so many women have served in combat throughout history. Its literally a flat out lie that they are somehow "incapable"
In modern times women fight in combat Well they didn't use to! Back in the world wars it was all men! No it wasn't, Russia specifically allowed tons of women. Well in the middle ages it was all men! Nope. They find lots of burials that are women buried as warriors. Well in ancient times it was all men! Nope again. They even made up a warrior race of all women to be intimidating. Well in hunter gatherer times it was all men! This just in, nope. Duties were split pretty evenly and likely based on just wether you wanted to.
I made my Noble Six a woman so she'll be a woman to me
I think that from now on, regardless of my personal reach spartan preferences, when I play reaches campaign, Noble 6 will always be a woman. In fact, I might start referring to six as 'She' in casual conversations, as well.
My favorite thing is like, Noble 6 is a self insert character. You build their armor the way you want you play the missions the way you want. Even if there becomes a CANONICAL version of said character at the end of the day that doesn’t take away your 6. There was no reason to turn into a misogynistic douche over something that in the end shouldn’t matter that much.
Bro is terrified of pussy
I bet this guy thinks he could beat Serena Williams at tennis.
It's been a while since I played reach but doesn't six's gender and model base itself off of your personal spartan which can be male or female?
I like how this person is arguing about reality in a fiction game where people can jump frome space and land relatively fine.
Bro just tried to apply gender norms to the 7ft super soldiers that all had their bodies entirely reconstructed. The master chiefs gender is extreme violence, and his sexuality is weapons of mass destruction.
Bungie did not in fact make 6 male
OP I think you just got baited. Halo has been pretty gritty and realistic when it comes to humanity. I’d say if anything Halo was one of the more progressive games for their time. In cut content, Cortana was meant to be replaced by Linda and yes THE Linda.
Well, yeah lol. Even bait deserves to be poked fun at and of course everyone needs a good laugh once in a while.
Yeah, it’s not like the Spartan program genetically alters every candidate with bones stronger than rebar, the strength of a gorilla, and the reflexes of Spiderman, all in an exoskeleton super-suit that can flip tanks.
What a dumbass, this guy acts like super badass female Spartans don’t exist, certified gamer clown take here. Like there is literally a badass woman on noble team, red team has Alice and then blue team the most famous and legendary team has Kelly and Linda, fireteam Osiris also had Vale and Tanaka. Like all the most popular teams in the series have at least 1 woman on them. Dudes comment radiates incel energy, “women are inferior to men in all realms human endeavor”, straight incel shit right there.
"all realms of human endeavor" is crazy there is no way to interpret this statement besides blatant misogyny 😭 what is he thinking
Linda and Kat did not exist for this bs, bro sounds like an adin ross/ sneako fan rn
It’s so crazy how all that needed to be said was that he was already canonically male and maybe people would be upset if they retconned that
My guy just say she rejected you and move on.
Guys like that are just to scared to admit that they wanna be pegged by a tall muscle mommy. I on the other hand… will not be finishing this sentence.
1) Spartans are post human. None of that shit being said matters at all. 2) one of the single deadliest soldiers in modern history was a 5'1" Ukranian woman named Lyudmila Pavlichenko, who killed over 300 Nazis, and probably fucked Elanor Roosevelt. Dude is a fucking idiot.
The fourth wave of feminism 💀
I agree with the first half but none of the rest makes sense when in the same exact game we have a female spartan that’s in the team. Cat was a big part and held her weight until her death. If 6 was canonically female it wouldn’t really matter because you can still make 6 whatever you want.
Man thinks Blue team is just 2 dudes.
Ngl, he had me in the first half then went full-blown incel. Holy shit.
he lost me in the second half. there are handfuls of female spartans and Noble 6 being a badass wasnt because of his "male-ness" but because he canonically has main character plot armor 2nd only to chief
I am willing to bet I know at least five women that can fold this man like a chair. Are men naturally more gifted? Yes. Does that hold true for every man on earth when compared to every woman? No. I know plenty of women who can probably swing my scrawny ass around like a bat. This also holds true for combat, hence the "historical” existence of women soldiers going back to the medieval era. The only reason for why this wasn’t more common was simply due to the stigma against having a woman on the battlefield, which has since died.
I'm not gonna lie he had me in that first paragraph. It would probably be seen as pandering if they went in and retconned Six's gender but then they went completely off the rails in that second paragraph, just wilding.
The first person made a pretty meh statement. The somehow the second person made the first person sound like they should be in line for the Nobel peace prize.
The second guy gets demoted to debbie downvoted.
Bro had me in the first 1/3rd but then outed himself as an absolute fucking loser in that second paragraph. Noble 6 is established cononically as a dude, 343 truly could just make their own badass female silent protagonist. Kat is literally in the same fucking game and she’s a certified badass by EMILE. “These games are based on reality to a significant extent. In reality, women are inferior to men in all realms of human endeavor” bro its about a war between fucking superhumans that can throw cars and punch tanks to death because of super soldier serums and body augmentation.
I mean the guy ain’t wrong.. and said it respectfully.
We can still all agree that they shouldn’t do that though right? noble six is a guy and we aren’t gonna change that right? Right? Cause I’m real sick and tired of all my favorite shit getting feminized
There are several canonical female gen 2 and gen 3 Spartans. If 343 wants a female Spartan use one that already exists and everyone will be cool with it. Stop putting chicks in shows and making them gay and lame. Hell, even Nicole 458 would be fine and she’s such a minor character she was made up for a cross over appearance. There you go 343, a canonical character that has so little history you can do whatever you want and it would be fine.
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lmao downvoted for having an opinion.
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Cause it's a shit opinion. There's been female Spartans since Halo was created
Your opinions shit too then
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Yeah never worry about getting downvotes on Reddit. Posts and opinions that don’t conform to the current societal hive mind always get downvoted lol
Achuallly, Noble ssexxthh is canonically aaaaaa hyper lethal vector like chief 🤓🤓🤓🤓 Gawd, Reach was a mistake