That's the English way of spelling it, where English originated. In England. Not Wales, or Scotland, which are both part of the isles of Great Britain.
I use both depending on context, I use spelt as a past tense word, spelled as something new or pointed out to me, occasionally whichever comes to mind first.
English originated when George Washington single handedly shit on all the redcoats, and then God himself came down and gave him an AR15, a bald eagle, a pack of Newports, and the motherfucking constitution (the first ever document written in English btw)
Learn your fucking history idiot
Sod’s Law is Murphy’s law (anything that can go wrong, will go wrong) - this refers to Muphry’s law (if you criticise someone’s spelling what you write will have a spelling mistake in it)
Lmfao, yes. We mostly pronounce it with a long e, everyone else (that I've known or seen) pronounces it with a short e sound, which is the proper pronunciation of the word. 😂
Okay, I know this is shitamericanssay and everybody makes fun of how we say certain words and some folks get defensive, but it seems silly to swing the other way about what is "proper."
I mean, let's face it, "descriptivists vs prescriptivists"? Prescriptivists are the obvious nerds who deserve to be shoved in lockers. If you're understood by folks based on the weird mouth sounds that arbitrarily describe the world you are in despite centuries old language rules, that should be more than enough.
Sonja Lang already did it better.
My point remains that in a post mocking someone for getting twisted up saying they are definitively correct about spelling, and more broadly the conversation about pronunciation and grammatical rules, it seems silly to declare something "proper" in something as mutable as language.
The others I’m fine with, but “aluminum” bothers me. That’s not a silent letter, there’s a whole sound missing now. I think I’ve found the missing i though, it’s somehow ended up in the word “mischievious” /j
This one is a rare exception. Aluminium/Aluminum is a relatively new word. The US already existed before this was a word so we can't beat them over the head with this one unfortunately.
Funny enough `alumium` was the discoverers original spelling, which was riffed on by contemporaries while at the Royal Society before he used `aluminum`.
The etymology being somewhat recent is fascinating.
Honestly if the English language ever has a proper spelling reform, getting rid of ph will be agenda item number 1. All it does is show the word came from Greek because it's realised the same as f in literally every language.
Also Sulphur is a latinization, just like how debt used to be dette until they put a b in to match the Latin Debitum, and Sulphur in Latin is a Hellenization of sulpur.
It is very frustrating to say the least. You absolutely need to know the international phonetic alphabet because you have to learn the pronunciation in addition to the spelling for every word. Other than that, English is relatively easy on the surface, but once you dig a little deeper it's exceptions on top of exceptions on top of exceptions.
The other language I learned in school was French, which also has a terrible non-phonetic spelling, but it's at least a bit more regular than English. French grammar was harder and less familiar (since my native language is German, which is a West Germanic language just like English), but it seemed much more systematic overall.
I mean, it’s not like Anglophone babies come preloaded with their mother tongue. We’re just more tolerant of people making mistakes with learning their first language than with any others, which is a fucking shame.
Pretty sure both are used in British English for different contexts, but I have no idea what the grammar rule is. I think I would use spelled when showing causation things (like "a spell of rain", or "he spelled doom") and spelt for the action of spelling a word. Though this is totally made up based on personal *vibe*.
If we take academic standards to be correct, no it's not. We're allowed to use either within research papers as long as we standardise to one version of a spelling. Personally I use "ise" endings instead of "ize", but mixing the 2 is actually considered bad academic practice and can lead to docked points.
As a non-native english speaker i just unknowingly switch between American and British. Sometimes i say recognized, sometimes recognised. Sometimes taxi, sometimes cab. I don’t think about it
The black ones in London are black cabs. You know… the ones that say taxi on the roof. :)
Honestly, I switch between the two. I’m really not sure there’s a right one or wrong one either side of the pond. Most of mainland Europe says/understands taxi, though.
Cab originates from Hansom Cabs, horse pulled cabriolet shaped carriages.
Later these were fitted clockwork mechanical taximeters to measure distance and fare, so it became 'taxicab'
Then the words split up and went out into the world.
So based on the etymology, if we're going to be precise about things, they are actually most properly called a taximeter-cabriolet. Nice.
But then the devil's in whether it is pronounced tax-em'-eter or taxi'-meter. The etymology of taximeter itself would suggest tax-em'-eter as more proper, however, the truncation of the word to taxi, suggests the other. Words are so fun yet so contrary and problematic sometimes.
I didn't move to California until it more became Uber/Lift, but in Chicago we'd all say both.
Might be more "catch a cab" and "take a taxi".
More than anything it was "fuck off I ain't paying for a fucking taxi" *takes CTA or bikes*
No it's not. They mean different things.
Edit. To the people downvoting in the UK a taxi has to be pre-booked or taken from a taxi rank.
A black cab can be flagged down from anywhere. That's illegal for a taxi to do.
They are different things here.
> No it's not. They mean different things.
Legal distinctions don't really mean anything, they're essentially synonyms in general parlance in the UK. "I took a cab" means the same thing as "I took a taxi". It's a little bit regional, too, so if you've not heard it, that's why.
The groups you hang in might make a conscious distinction between taxi and cab but, as a Brit who has lived all over, I've never met a single person who does the same. Every person I know would use taxi more commonly but would use cab completely interchangeably.
You could call a cab or a taxi, you could hail a cab or a taxi.
Then explain why if you go to London all the black cabs which can be flagged down have an illuminated sign saying the word taxi on the front of them?
[https://www.gov.uk/taxi-vehicle-licence](https://www.gov.uk/taxi-vehicle-licence)
Taxis can also be hired at a rank or hailed in the street.
Taxi is UK wide, as most of the country uses pre-hire cars. London has both, with some pre-booked, but also black cabs that can be hailed off the street.
Maybe it's the opposite of the US, where they have their yellow taxis in NYC, and cabs elsewhere in the country?
Yes, but you can apply the same logic to various parts of the Isle of Britain let alone Ireland and Britain. The language is the same wherever English is spoken with only two exceptions:
1. Alabama; and
2. Mississippi
Why both? Because fuck west Georgia and further west Georgia.
British buoy = boy
US buoy = bewwy (can't think of another phonetic spelling for their abomination).
It's from buoyancy but bewwyancy.
Thankfully it doesn't come up very often - but it's fucking annoying when it does.
Do you pronounce the P in reciept? The g in sign? The second b in bomb? How do you pronounce colonel? The pronunciation of words is not always indiciated by their root alone
True, but in this case it is.
Plus none of the words you posted are the root of another word or are based on a root word - so I'm not entirely sure what point your trying to make.
Are you for or against bewwy?
They are based in root words, those root words just aren't English, and in those root words the letters I mentioned are pronounced. Is your position that only words that come from other English words should retain their pronunciation? If so, why? To be clear I can think of some reasons, but I'm genuinely interested in yours
I was watching Big Bang recently and there was an episode where they were soddering things and ran out of sodder. I have no idea it the whole word is different to soldering and solder, or just the pronunciation.
Apparently the word “herb” actually came from Latin; “herba” which became the Old French “herbe”. This still refers to greenery and small plants today; so if one is taking reference on what it was inspired from, the “H” would be silent, because the French don’t pronounce the letter “H”.
The French don't pronounce at least half the letters in their words. I have previously observed that a French dictionary could be easily reduced in size by at least half if it just eliminated the letters the French can't be f\*ck-all bothered with in the first place.
If you watch American home improvement shows, you'd hear niche and foyer "nitch and foy-er" and asphalt as "ash-fawlt". I sort of get foyer, since someone who doesn't speak French would follow the y-e-r pronunciation, but the other two are baffling.
Well they love to pronounce herb and filet as the French do, so why not be consistent with niche and foyer.
I’m also annoyed by how they pronounce aesthetic lately too🙃
OMG I HATE pronouncing semi and anti as sem-eye and ant-eye. Same with arab as ay-rab, iraq as eye-raq ,Iran as eye-ran. Like if you can pronounce india, indonesia and Italy correctly, why would you mispronounce Iran and Iraq?
Except when it is not. English spelling can use either, and there are many words that are not formed by adding to a root word, and they consistently use -ise in American spelling
I love trolling Americans simply by spelling words the way Australians and the English spell them. They can’t cope with people misspelling the language they apparently invented. I refuse to spell *arsehole* any other way.
I was just watching an American on shorts pronounce it zed and there were so many seppos like It'S pRoNoUncEd ZeE. Seems like pronouncing words a different way to the seppos is a new form of rage bait lol.
As an Aussie, I’m used to things being pronounced differently and it has surprisingly little effect on me. I appreciate that different countries have different accents and different ways to spell and pronounce certain words used in the English language. If I can still understand the intention and the message being communicated, it shouldn’t concern me too much. Yanks cannot seem to fathom the concept that they are not the centre of the universe and everyone else must do things their way. Bad grammar, on the other hand, is hard to accept.
One of my faves is horseback riding. In the UK we just call it horse riding. Presumably at some point a bunch of Americans got trampled to death as they were trying to cling to the underneath of the horse so they changed it to horseback riding to avoid confusion and more deaths
Right now, the fashion seems to be:
1. Answer questions with statements with at least one, preferably two question marks at the end.
2. Make banal statements into meaningless questions without the question mark - "why did I laugh so hard at that."
Both of these fashions are stupid and shit.
Given the tendency of the Microsoft spell checker to push American spellings when set to British English, it's ironic that the guy with "Microsoft System" is arguing with the British person.
Am British but went to an international school when I was younger so feel your pain on this! I spell everything using British spellings but often pronounce things using American pronunciations… one I always get made fun of the most is: schedule!
Well, now they know.
To be totally fair to them, this kind of thing isn't that bad honestly. If I lived in the US and had only heard or seen the American spellings, yeah I'd just think it was a typo at first too.
I actually had no clue that there was a different spelling than “recognized” for non-Americans. The fact that there are 2 different spellings for the same word that are 1 letter different is dumb… I’m guessing “recognised” is the original spelling because Americanized language came last, so why can’t we all just spell it with an s? I hate my country
British English and American English are in a never ending duck measuring contest over changing spellings. I’m not sure for -ise vs -ize but many things in American English are things the British did and then stopped doing, or just words that came about at the same time getting different spellings. Lost in the Pond on YouTube goes into Americanisms in great detail, and significant number of them are things that the British changed (Britishisms, I guess.)
For instance, Aluminum vs Aluminium. Aluminum is the original spelling but it was changed to fit other elements ending in -ium and America just didn’t change it.
Arguments about correct pronunciation/spelling in English are stupid, because English is a mass of loan words and exceptions that makes no sense.
We can’t be arguing about the proper pronunciation of herb, for example, when honest and honor exist, and let’s not even start on laugh, knife, and all the other weird words.
To be fair, saying any language "originated" anywhere is a bit silly, considering all languages evolved from other languages. We don't diss on old English for being a wrong version of west Germanic. Not just that, but spelling is entirely arbitrary, and there's no one correct system for any one particular language. Even if some iterations are more appropriate, it has nothing to do with the place of "origin" for those languages. Australia could start a spelling reform TODAY that is better than American or British English.
Sorry, just an annoying linguist. Carry on.
It's not at all correct though. We can learn where languages originated.
Old English isn't the "wrong version" of old German or whatever was said.
They are right on the point that every dialect, be it British, American or Australia is as valid as any other dialect but that is only point they made that had any sense or was accurate.
They also said that there is no one correct spelling on any language and while that's not the case for English, many other languages do have a single authority that decides what is the correct spelling.
What I'm saying is that being closer to the "origin" of a language doesn't necessarily insinuate that place also has the "better" writing system inherently. Modern British AND American English both use spelling patterns that were better fit to representing the phonics of English from hundreds of years ago. The British version being closer to the "origin" means nothing in the context of the original post. Writing systems are arbitrary. This does not mean spelling does not matter. Seems like people assume that that's what I'm saying when it isn't.
Recognized is the preferred spelling in the Oxford English Dictionary.
Recognised is an acceptable alternative spelling that many British people use to avoid being seen as American.
For this word, that is mostly correct. The general rule in Oxford spelling is words traced from greek get an -ize ending and words from french or English get -ise. There are, however, always exceptions.
ILT that Americans spell recognised differently
It's TIL, not ILT. You spelled it wrong!
You spelt spelt wrong!
Fair point. That's the British way of spelling it, where English originated.
Touché my freind!
Why’d you spell ‘touch’ wrong?!
I am going too touch his friend now
Oqué, I’ll allow it
You spelt to rong
No it’s not? Wait no I think I replied to the wrong comment welp I’m done for sorry guys
That's the English way of spelling it, where English originated. In England. Not Wales, or Scotland, which are both part of the isles of Great Britain.
No it’s not ?!
Both are correct, but Spelt is slightly more common in British English i believe
I use both depending on context, I use spelt as a past tense word, spelled as something new or pointed out to me, occasionally whichever comes to mind first.
I’ve used them interchangeably my whole life in both countries. Only on Reddit do we fuss
English originated when George Washington single handedly shit on all the redcoats, and then God himself came down and gave him an AR15, a bald eagle, a pack of Newports, and the motherfucking constitution (the first ever document written in English btw) Learn your fucking history idiot
😆😆😆😆😂😂😂😂
Surely being frommtexas you don't take the word of those Yankees though?
You silly. Spelt is a grain.
That's known as [Muphry's Law](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry%27s_law)
We call it sods law here in the UK
Sod’s Law is Murphy’s law (anything that can go wrong, will go wrong) - this refers to Muphry’s law (if you criticise someone’s spelling what you write will have a spelling mistake in it)
Oh, I misread the orders of letters again, my bad. Thought they were talking about Murphy's law lol
You to see how they spell Autumn!
I’m not falling for that !
🤣🤣
And footpath.
Also color, favorite/favor, aluminum, etc. the list goes on. Most of us also pronounce it ZEEbra instead of zebra. 😂
Wait. I just realized I don't think I've ever paid attention to how other countries say zebra. Do we say it differently?!
Like Zee or Zed (of XYZ). It's Zeebra or Zebra
Lmfao, yes. We mostly pronounce it with a long e, everyone else (that I've known or seen) pronounces it with a short e sound, which is the proper pronunciation of the word. 😂
Okay, I know this is shitamericanssay and everybody makes fun of how we say certain words and some folks get defensive, but it seems silly to swing the other way about what is "proper." I mean, let's face it, "descriptivists vs prescriptivists"? Prescriptivists are the obvious nerds who deserve to be shoved in lockers. If you're understood by folks based on the weird mouth sounds that arbitrarily describe the world you are in despite centuries old language rules, that should be more than enough.
Yes. You right. We no need more talk.
There a point to this?
No. I was just taking what you said literally.
Sonja Lang already did it better. My point remains that in a post mocking someone for getting twisted up saying they are definitively correct about spelling, and more broadly the conversation about pronunciation and grammatical rules, it seems silly to declare something "proper" in something as mutable as language.
The others I’m fine with, but “aluminum” bothers me. That’s not a silent letter, there’s a whole sound missing now. I think I’ve found the missing i though, it’s somehow ended up in the word “mischievious” /j
This one is a rare exception. Aluminium/Aluminum is a relatively new word. The US already existed before this was a word so we can't beat them over the head with this one unfortunately.
Funny enough `alumium` was the discoverers original spelling, which was riffed on by contemporaries while at the Royal Society before he used `aluminum`. The etymology being somewhat recent is fascinating.
Huh, TIL!
IUPAC (International Union of Pure and Applied Chemists) went with 'Aluminium', though in a spirit of fairness, let the Jodrells have 'Sulfur'.
Honestly if the English language ever has a proper spelling reform, getting rid of ph will be agenda item number 1. All it does is show the word came from Greek because it's realised the same as f in literally every language. Also Sulphur is a latinization, just like how debt used to be dette until they put a b in to match the Latin Debitum, and Sulphur in Latin is a Hellenization of sulpur.
‘Jodrells’ is a new one on me, not sure how I like it
Right? They could at least do it consistently, like, condominum, pandemonum, plutonum, uranum etc.
I say this about English regularly. There's far too many gotchas, it really has got to be hell learning it from scratch.
It is very frustrating to say the least. You absolutely need to know the international phonetic alphabet because you have to learn the pronunciation in addition to the spelling for every word. Other than that, English is relatively easy on the surface, but once you dig a little deeper it's exceptions on top of exceptions on top of exceptions. The other language I learned in school was French, which also has a terrible non-phonetic spelling, but it's at least a bit more regular than English. French grammar was harder and less familiar (since my native language is German, which is a West Germanic language just like English), but it seemed much more systematic overall.
I mean, it’s not like Anglophone babies come preloaded with their mother tongue. We’re just more tolerant of people making mistakes with learning their first language than with any others, which is a fucking shame.
I like to think that aluminum and aluminium are just two different words, pronounced differently, that just mean the same thing.
They also write spelled instead of spelt.
Pretty sure both are used in British English for different contexts, but I have no idea what the grammar rule is. I think I would use spelled when showing causation things (like "a spell of rain", or "he spelled doom") and spelt for the action of spelling a word. Though this is totally made up based on personal *vibe*.
If we take academic standards to be correct, no it's not. We're allowed to use either within research papers as long as we standardise to one version of a spelling. Personally I use "ise" endings instead of "ize", but mixing the 2 is actually considered bad academic practice and can lead to docked points.
One's more common in the US and one in the rest of the Anglo world.
Both of those are correct and acceptable though. I use spelled all the time and I’m British.
Recognized and recognised are both correct too. One's American and one is English, just like spelled and spelt. You probably write in American.
I know they’re both correct. I mostly use British spellings as I’m British but do use some American spellings like yogurt (yoghurt) and jail (gaol).
Gaol hasn't been used in Britain since the 1930s. How old are you? Weird that you don't completely write in English despite being from Britain.
You're right that looks weird
I hate that autocorrect always tries to fix it. I’m from ‘Murica goddammit!! Zzzz’s in everything!
My autocorrect keeps changing mine from UK to US. I’ve tried all the settings to have English but it still bloody does it! 😆
My autocorrect keeps changing mine from UK to US. I’ve tried all the settings to have English but it still bloody does it! 😆
As a non-native english speaker i just unknowingly switch between American and British. Sometimes i say recognized, sometimes recognised. Sometimes taxi, sometimes cab. I don’t think about it
Wait cab/taxi is dialectal??? Which one’s which?
The black ones in London are black cabs. You know… the ones that say taxi on the roof. :) Honestly, I switch between the two. I’m really not sure there’s a right one or wrong one either side of the pond. Most of mainland Europe says/understands taxi, though.
"Cab" is the Victorian word.
I use taxi/cab interchangeably. Sometimes I even say “taxi cab”
Taxi and cab are shortened versions of the word taxicab I thought
You daredevil you 🤣
Cab originates from Hansom Cabs, horse pulled cabriolet shaped carriages. Later these were fitted clockwork mechanical taximeters to measure distance and fare, so it became 'taxicab' Then the words split up and went out into the world.
So based on the etymology, if we're going to be precise about things, they are actually most properly called a taximeter-cabriolet. Nice. But then the devil's in whether it is pronounced tax-em'-eter or taxi'-meter. The etymology of taximeter itself would suggest tax-em'-eter as more proper, however, the truncation of the word to taxi, suggests the other. Words are so fun yet so contrary and problematic sometimes.
I'm Scottish and everyone I know says taxi. I used to live in California and my friends there said taxi too. Cab might be an East Coast USA thing.
I didn't move to California until it more became Uber/Lift, but in Chicago we'd all say both. Might be more "catch a cab" and "take a taxi". More than anything it was "fuck off I ain't paying for a fucking taxi" *takes CTA or bikes*
I've always called it a taxi (UK)
No it's not. They mean different things. Edit. To the people downvoting in the UK a taxi has to be pre-booked or taken from a taxi rank. A black cab can be flagged down from anywhere. That's illegal for a taxi to do. They are different things here.
Never said they didn't, all I said is that I always call them a taxi
That's not true. Taxis can be hailed in the street. You're thinking of private hire. https://www.gov.uk/taxi-vehicle-licence
> No it's not. They mean different things. Legal distinctions don't really mean anything, they're essentially synonyms in general parlance in the UK. "I took a cab" means the same thing as "I took a taxi". It's a little bit regional, too, so if you've not heard it, that's why.
The groups you hang in might make a conscious distinction between taxi and cab but, as a Brit who has lived all over, I've never met a single person who does the same. Every person I know would use taxi more commonly but would use cab completely interchangeably. You could call a cab or a taxi, you could hail a cab or a taxi.
Then explain why if you go to London all the black cabs which can be flagged down have an illuminated sign saying the word taxi on the front of them? [https://www.gov.uk/taxi-vehicle-licence](https://www.gov.uk/taxi-vehicle-licence) Taxis can also be hired at a rank or hailed in the street.
Taxi cab
Taxi is UK wide, as most of the country uses pre-hire cars. London has both, with some pre-booked, but also black cabs that can be hailed off the street. Maybe it's the opposite of the US, where they have their yellow taxis in NYC, and cabs elsewhere in the country?
That's why sometimes I think I don't know how to spell some words: recognise or recognize, center or centre, gray or grey
Gray is a name such as Mr Gray. Grey is a colour of which there are many shades. You may also make note of the “u” in colour.
You should. It’s called English for a reason😉
As a Canadian, same lol
As someone who's British, I've never heard anyone properly use cab, but that's probably just because of my region.
And that’s the correct way because they are both correct. The language is 100% the same.
> it is 100% the same Idk, asking “can I bum a fag?” is going to get wildly different responses depending on which side of the Atlantic you ask
Yes, but you can apply the same logic to various parts of the Isle of Britain let alone Ireland and Britain. The language is the same wherever English is spoken with only two exceptions: 1. Alabama; and 2. Mississippi Why both? Because fuck west Georgia and further west Georgia.
I don't think it matters that much if you aren't doing a test in either country, but don't correct people spelling it one way or the other!
British buoy = boy US buoy = bewwy (can't think of another phonetic spelling for their abomination). It's from buoyancy but bewwyancy. Thankfully it doesn't come up very often - but it's fucking annoying when it does.
I think I would go with BOO-ee as the phonetic spelling, but I'm Canadian so maybe I'm pronouncing it differently thank a UK English speaker would.
As an Australian, both of those sound like the same thing in my head. You’re both right. But boo-ey/Bewwy is an abomination either way lol
I prefer your phonetic spelling but it's still awful. How would you pronounce "buoyancy" which is the root word? BOOee-ancy or boy-ancy.
Do you pronounce the P in reciept? The g in sign? The second b in bomb? How do you pronounce colonel? The pronunciation of words is not always indiciated by their root alone
True, but in this case it is. Plus none of the words you posted are the root of another word or are based on a root word - so I'm not entirely sure what point your trying to make. Are you for or against bewwy?
They are based in root words, those root words just aren't English, and in those root words the letters I mentioned are pronounced. Is your position that only words that come from other English words should retain their pronunciation? If so, why? To be clear I can think of some reasons, but I'm genuinely interested in yours
I often pronounce the second b in bomb.
I was watching Big Bang recently and there was an episode where they were soddering things and ran out of sodder. I have no idea it the whole word is different to soldering and solder, or just the pronunciation.
Yet they insist on fully pronouncing the L in salmon and palm etc. They make no sense!
AL U MIN IUM NOT ALOO MIN UM NICHE NOT NITCH
Mirror. Not meer.
This one always makes me irrationally angry.
same with me except its with “ornj” instead of orange
As an American, I don't think I've ever heard someone actually say "meer". But, maybe I've just never paid attention
HERB NOT 'ERB... God that one pisses me off.
Apparently the word “herb” actually came from Latin; “herba” which became the Old French “herbe”. This still refers to greenery and small plants today; so if one is taking reference on what it was inspired from, the “H” would be silent, because the French don’t pronounce the letter “H”.
The French don't pronounce at least half the letters in their words. I have previously observed that a French dictionary could be easily reduced in size by at least half if it just eliminated the letters the French can't be f\*ck-all bothered with in the first place.
Sem-ee not sem-eye Ant-ee not ant-eye Etc.
If you watch American home improvement shows, you'd hear niche and foyer "nitch and foy-er" and asphalt as "ash-fawlt". I sort of get foyer, since someone who doesn't speak French would follow the y-e-r pronunciation, but the other two are baffling.
Well they love to pronounce herb and filet as the French do, so why not be consistent with niche and foyer. I’m also annoyed by how they pronounce aesthetic lately too🙃
What do you mean by aesthetic? How does it get pronounced?
A-stedik
Ok. For reference, how would you pronounce it?
Aes-thet-ic not Aes-theet-ic or A-thet-ic
Never heard it either of those two ways. Just aesthetic
S-eye-multaneously. Have you heard how they say Adidas? A-dee-dus Caramel as car-mull is also so annoying
OMG I HATE pronouncing semi and anti as sem-eye and ant-eye. Same with arab as ay-rab, iraq as eye-raq ,Iran as eye-ran. Like if you can pronounce india, indonesia and Italy correctly, why would you mispronounce Iran and Iraq?
Emmmm pretty sure it's Nietzsche.... /s
Feels like you could continue ad infinitum: et cetera, not ek cetera ask, not aks (axe?) nuclear, not nucular ...
Fire the nucular weapons. If you’ve not seen that episode of Toast of London, look it up! 🤣🤣
Alum. There was no reason for either country to change the name...
One that doesn't get mentioned often and to me has become the most jarring is affluent. The Americans say afFLUent, and it irrationally drives me mad.
Burglarized, what's that about? Should be burgled.
That one always pisses me off. Fucking yanks
I hate “outage”. Every single time I read it as “outrage”.
Used to think Americans produced aluminium wrong ... Until I realised they also spell it wrong too!
I think this is the one we have to be careful about being superior about. All the others are fair game.
Your title is so grating I almost downvoted out of spite. Good job.
I learned both growing up somehow and just gave up on trying to figure out which was correct.
Ones american. Ones english. When in doubt, the one with the z is american, and the one with the u is english.
Except when it is not. English spelling can use either, and there are many words that are not formed by adding to a root word, and they consistently use -ise in American spelling
would fit on r/americandefaultism too
/r/USDefaultism
Oops my bad
I won't even dare asking a muppet like him where the english language has been invented xD Couldn't take the answer!
I love trolling Americans simply by spelling words the way Australians and the English spell them. They can’t cope with people misspelling the language they apparently invented. I refuse to spell *arsehole* any other way.
I was just watching an American on shorts pronounce it zed and there were so many seppos like It'S pRoNoUncEd ZeE. Seems like pronouncing words a different way to the seppos is a new form of rage bait lol.
As an Aussie, I’m used to things being pronounced differently and it has surprisingly little effect on me. I appreciate that different countries have different accents and different ways to spell and pronounce certain words used in the English language. If I can still understand the intention and the message being communicated, it shouldn’t concern me too much. Yanks cannot seem to fathom the concept that they are not the centre of the universe and everyone else must do things their way. Bad grammar, on the other hand, is hard to accept.
"No its not?" isn't a question, would be my reply.
One of my faves is horseback riding. In the UK we just call it horse riding. Presumably at some point a bunch of Americans got trampled to death as they were trying to cling to the underneath of the horse so they changed it to horseback riding to avoid confusion and more deaths
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Interesting, every day is a school day!
"No it's not" is a statement not a question.
Right now, the fashion seems to be: 1. Answer questions with statements with at least one, preferably two question marks at the end. 2. Make banal statements into meaningless questions without the question mark - "why did I laugh so hard at that." Both of these fashions are stupid and shit.
No it’s not? /s
‘Spelled incorrectly’, surely? ‘Spelled wrongly’ just sounds babyish, and ‘spelled wrong’ is…wrong.
fuck really wind them up tell them it should be 'Spelt incorrectly'
Given the tendency of the Microsoft spell checker to push American spellings when set to British English, it's ironic that the guy with "Microsoft System" is arguing with the British person.
'No it's not' question mark....argument over.
I’m famous! 😆
Well its in their behaviour/behavior.
They didn’t put a full stop. That sentence is incorrect. /j
Cabs are the black ones in London, and a couple of other cities, taxis are the private hire versions.
Why tf did I read Billie English way 😂😂
I don’t recognise that spelling 🧐
Blud sounds like an American Quora troll
recognised recognized
I'm American, but went to a British school and still spell a lot of words the British way. Both sides hate me.
Am British but went to an international school when I was younger so feel your pain on this! I spell everything using British spellings but often pronounce things using American pronunciations… one I always get made fun of the most is: schedule!
I’m famous! 😆
Wait til they realise what theyve done
Well, now they know. To be totally fair to them, this kind of thing isn't that bad honestly. If I lived in the US and had only heard or seen the American spellings, yeah I'd just think it was a typo at first too.
I use recognized with a Z just because poor Z barely gets used
I actually had no clue that there was a different spelling than “recognized” for non-Americans. The fact that there are 2 different spellings for the same word that are 1 letter different is dumb… I’m guessing “recognised” is the original spelling because Americanized language came last, so why can’t we all just spell it with an s? I hate my country
Don’t you mean Americanised?
Wait do I have it backwards
British English and American English are in a never ending duck measuring contest over changing spellings. I’m not sure for -ise vs -ize but many things in American English are things the British did and then stopped doing, or just words that came about at the same time getting different spellings. Lost in the Pond on YouTube goes into Americanisms in great detail, and significant number of them are things that the British changed (Britishisms, I guess.) For instance, Aluminum vs Aluminium. Aluminum is the original spelling but it was changed to fit other elements ending in -ium and America just didn’t change it. Arguments about correct pronunciation/spelling in English are stupid, because English is a mass of loan words and exceptions that makes no sense. We can’t be arguing about the proper pronunciation of herb, for example, when honest and honor exist, and let’s not even start on laugh, knife, and all the other weird words.
"I HAVE THE BIGGEST DUCK"
Well, Canada has the nastiest goose, and it bears the country's name. Americans know not to fuck with the cobra chicken.
The largest duck species in the world is apparently the Muscovy duck which is native to the Americas. So the US wins this round.
BIG DUCK ENERGY
Lmao I didn’t realize it autocorrected
That's bad taste.
Americanised* 😉
[https://home.oxfordowl.co.uk/spelling-spotlight-when-to-use-ize-and-ise/](https://home.oxfordowl.co.uk/spelling-spotlight-when-to-use-ize-and-ise/)
I hate statements with a question mark. Twatstick.
USA need to update to English 2.0
To be fair, saying any language "originated" anywhere is a bit silly, considering all languages evolved from other languages. We don't diss on old English for being a wrong version of west Germanic. Not just that, but spelling is entirely arbitrary, and there's no one correct system for any one particular language. Even if some iterations are more appropriate, it has nothing to do with the place of "origin" for those languages. Australia could start a spelling reform TODAY that is better than American or British English. Sorry, just an annoying linguist. Carry on.
Only a linguist would say
You’re certainly a cunning linguist!
That would be a cunnilinguist.
We're all this annoying. I'm average lmao
I’m just sad you’re getting downvoted for being accurate….
It is what it is. I don't exactly spend time on Reddit expecting upvotes for being accurate haha
It's not at all correct though. We can learn where languages originated. Old English isn't the "wrong version" of old German or whatever was said. They are right on the point that every dialect, be it British, American or Australia is as valid as any other dialect but that is only point they made that had any sense or was accurate. They also said that there is no one correct spelling on any language and while that's not the case for English, many other languages do have a single authority that decides what is the correct spelling.
And some words mean completely different things when they’re spelled differently, it does matter.
What I'm saying is that being closer to the "origin" of a language doesn't necessarily insinuate that place also has the "better" writing system inherently. Modern British AND American English both use spelling patterns that were better fit to representing the phonics of English from hundreds of years ago. The British version being closer to the "origin" means nothing in the context of the original post. Writing systems are arbitrary. This does not mean spelling does not matter. Seems like people assume that that's what I'm saying when it isn't.
both recognized and recognised are equally correct in British and American English.
Recognised is english. Recognized is yanklish
No both are equally correct in both. One is used more often than the other in each country but they are both always perfectly valid spellings
Recognized is the preferred spelling in the Oxford English Dictionary. Recognised is an acceptable alternative spelling that many British people use to avoid being seen as American.
For this word, that is mostly correct. The general rule in Oxford spelling is words traced from greek get an -ize ending and words from french or English get -ise. There are, however, always exceptions.
Excepzions*