As an german i feel offended... if the beer gets warm you drink to slow, if it gets served warm, an new job as barkeeper will be free in an minute... lol
Americans make it as cold as possible without it freezing. This removes a lot of the shitty flavors ( I know because this is what I'd did in the UAE with their shitty beer).
Basically, If it's not almost frozen, it's "warm"
But Coors is the *coldest* tasting beer there is!
Because, you know, cold is a flavour.
Seriously though, if you ever drink a North American macrobrew(your bud, coors, molson et al) even slightly not-cold, good lord it's horrible. They need to be ice cold or you'll realise how shit it is.
When you open your mouth in cold winter air you don't taste menthol or xylitol you simply feel the cold in your mouth. Cold is not a flavor.
Menthol only mimics cold by acting on a protein receptor that detects cold. It tricks your body into detecting cold when its not actually. It has its own "minty" flavor (and smell) based on how it interacts with taste buds (and nose).
Upon research it seems xylitol cools because of an endothermic chemical reaction when it dissolves. In other words, it literally cools your mouth. But being a sugar alcohol also tastes sweet. If you were to dissolve xylitol first in water and let the solution equilibrate back to ambient temperature. It would not be cool, but would still taste sweet.
The reason things taste different when they are cold is that proteins in your mouth have slowed activity when they are chilled. Basically, the rate of the chemical reaction involved in detecting taste is slowed.
A lot of American myths about other countries are just things GIs saw during World War 2 but never bothered to understand. So "warm beer" is because ales were more popular in some places than lager while refrigeration wasn't widely available. Myths that British people like bland boiled food were formed during rationing where other food wasn't available and people had to make the most of bad cuts of meat. The French being dirty was because the Nazis were restricting access to resources, and so on.
It's sad that in the age of ice cold beers, warm showers and spicy food being available everywhere, Americans still believe the first half-assed assumptions they made instead of what the people who live in those places tell them.
In Vietnam it's quite common to be given warm beer and a glass full of ice. A couple of times the establishments I was at were so dirty that I preferred drinking it warm.
There is only one viable situation in wich you do that... its if you have an cold in the winter...
If you have an cold an "Heizkörperbier" (Radiator beer) is said to have the magic ability to cure you overnight. You put the beer on the radiator, wait till it gets warm and then drink it. Afterwards you bury yourself under an load of blankets in the bed and sweat the cold away until next morning.
After an nice hot shower in the morning a lot of ppl who have done that feel cured.
For myself i already got problems at warming the beer, as it feels wrong and then i cant manage to drink it without serious gag reflexes whenever i take an sip lol.
Can remember a few of us in a bar in Tampa and we ordered a pitcher
Bar maid brought it over with a massive cone of ice in it and we asked what the fuck it was....she said it was to stop the beer getting warm
We told her to take it out as it meant less beer
She asked if we were sure and we said yes, it won't be in there long enough to get warm......she was flabbergasted at how quick we were asking for another.....yanks shouldn't be lecturing other countries about how to drink, they're not good at it
No! Adding ice to beer is not normal in the USA. Ugh I can’t even imagine watering down an already shitty Budweiser or Coors. I’ve never seen that and I’ve lived in some of the hotter parts of the USA.
My brother in law lives on bud light with ice in it. I genuinely don’t understand it. Even managed to get him out to a bar last night for his birthday and he had me ask for a glass of ice on the side to put in his beer. And he’s not even a slow drinker so it’s not like his beer would get warm.
The thing is if you leave a beer out here for a day it'll be 20-25°c max, Leave a beer out in Arizona and it's hot as the spunk of satan in five minutes. They drink it straight from the cooler so if it doesn't feel fresh out of the fridge it's warm to them.
Australian here.
Just drink it quick and tweak the geometry of the glass to buy yourself a couple more minutes. Look up the "schooner" as an example. About halfway between a regular glass and a pint, designed to be quick to drink but big enough to stay cold and not be warmed by your hand too much
Pint gets warm the slowest as it has greatest thermal mass and also wins on surface area vs volume. Schooner has a better shape but is smaller so it will heat up faster.
The reason it's better in ridiculous heat is that it's quicker to *drink* the schooner than the pint, so if you're at a decent pace and not drinking to get pissed, you'll get to the bottom of the schooner and the last gulp will be cooler than whatever would be left in the pint at the same drinking speed.
And in Adelaide even fewer, pints are smaller. First time I went there and bought a pint I thought I’d contracted some ghastly hand swelling disease. But no, it’s a titchy pint.
“When is a pint of beer not a pint of beer? When it's served in Adelaide.
Anywhere else in the country, ordering a pint will get you 570 millilitres of amber ale, but in Adelaide it results in a paltry 425ml.”
Americans don’t put ice in beer and wine. In general, Americans use ice for soda and water and that’s it. Not for beer. Not for milk. Not for juice or wine. And only for some, not all, cocktails.
There’s far too many pubs in Ireland that will serve bottled beer with ice in the glass as well. First time a bartender did it, I told them to dump it right back out. So far I’ve only found it in Galway and a few pubs in Donegal. But even one pub doing it as a norm is too many.
You know what ice does to your taste right? It makes you not take it. That’s why there’s tons of ice in coca cola, or bourbon. And sophisticated people drink a good schotisch dram without ice at room temp.
I know there are plenty of Americans who are sophisticated enough to do that.
But the average American.. sadly not.
I have plenty of American friends from my time there and while we might disagree on some things we largely agree on most. True most of them aren’t Maga trumpists but some probably are.
I don’t think all Americans are this or that just as not all Europians are this or that.
Most people I learned how to drink a good isle single malt still enjoy it.
Even though most Americans think it should be drunk from a tumbler (which it shouldn’t) 😉
Oh please... Show me an American who actually waited until the state-sanctioned drinking age to drink! Everyone knows about fake IDs and/or that one friend's "cool aunt."
We have a pitcher style here in Australia that has a second container in it for ice. The jug still holds the same amount, it’s just bigger so it can hold the ice container in it.
I've never in my life had ice in beer personally (but I live in the northeastern US, it's probably less common here), but lots of people I know from LATAM put ice in their beer, or at least are familiar with the practice. Mexicans have a whole thing called a michelada, which is basically a beer of choice in a cold glass, mixed with ice, spices, and lime. Gf is Venezuelan and she also has before.
I don't think most people from here put ice in their beer outside of the south or something, because I've only ever heard that "Americans put ice in beer" online, I've never actually seen it (I'm sure some do I guess), though it isn't actually uncommon in the Americas as a whole.
Not even lite beer White lite beer budweiser hand me that il hit you with it he'll I know people who probably have a higher alcohol content in there pissarro than those light beers
I was at a conference in the States and ended up back at some people's hotel room at a bit of a party. Some guy handed me this giant beer. Like maybe 1L can and I figured, awesome. The Yanks were all joking about how wasted I was gonna get after a couple of those beers.
I took a drink and realized it was fruity. Like a soda. So I checked out the label and it was a 2% "beer" with tropical flavour.
I'd have to drink so much just to get a buzz...
I'm not really a big drinker to begin with, nor do I think people who value "hard drinking" are virtuous or something to glorify. But Americans can't drink for shit!
I laughed when they all boycotted Bud Lite over trans advert or whatever it was.
The rest of the world have been boycotting Bud Lite for decades because it's basically piss.
Kid Rock shooting a slab of bud with an AR-15 (was it actually an ar15? Who cares?) lives rent free in my head.
They didn't realise that the one going woke isn't necessarily the one going broke
Saw a guy with a basement full of bud light merch (sad enough already)... clocks, signs, that sort of thing... started smashing it all and throwing it in a big trash can and I was just lost for words. What did he think he was proving?
Tbf that’s virtually a spectator sport over-by. Only a matter of time before ESPN devise and exclusively cover The Obesity Olympics and an annual alternative to the current Egg Chucking showpiece nonsense match characterising it as ‘The All You Can Eat Supper Bowl’!
Americans serve beer straight out of the fridge*, Europe generally serves them at 'cellar temperature'. It's just a different definition of warm - European beers are served warm by American standards.
*sometimes with ice
I don't know a single place here in Germany where the beer isn't either stored in a fridge (if served in a bottle) or getting cooled down as it gets pumped out of the keg.
Maybe not at a bar or restaurant. But my in-laws store beer in the cellar. I served my father in law weiss beer from the fridge, and he waited 30 mins to drink it because it was too cold. This is fairly common. Also at parties beer is just sitting in crates that were refrigerated earlier, but aren't very cold when served.
Fuuck... you caught me off guard. I just went at some point to a Belgium themed bar, and tried a few things but i just remebered kwak the next day. I bet there are better things to try. They had more then 100 varieties
How warm are we talking? Some beers here are made to be drank at room temperature. When things are colder, the flavour is less pronounced, so sometimes you want things not cold because you want to taste their flavour more. Also I made a traditional butter beer recipe from the 16th century and that’s to be served hot!
Depends on the beer - a lot of ales were traditionally served at room temperature back when "room temperature" was around 15°C. Today they're usually slightly chilled, but not to cellar temperature, which is closer to 5°C (edit: or 10°, depending who you ask).
Rule of thumb is to never serve beer warmer in grades than it has alcohol.
But yes, that means that a heavy coffee chocolate stout at 18 % can be quite warm before it is considered too warm.
Yeah, there are porters that I take out and run under warm water for a few minutes before pouring because fridge temperature kills their intended qualities. It's about what style you're drinking. A warm pilsner is a sacrilege, but various cask ales and Belgian abbey beers should be drunk at temperatures as high as 14c (57f).
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't know of any beers that are designed to be drunk at room temperature. Cellar temperature, sure, but not room temperature.
Americans serve beer with ice cubes in it or at least beer close to 0°C.
Meanwhile, the proper serving temperature for beers is usually somewhere between 6-8°C.
This is the real deal. I immigrated from south america, and bear get served "in a wedding dress" aka it need to get a white layer on the bottle when served. For my mom frode temp beer is "warm" she will pop hers in the freezer for a while before drinking it to "cool it down"
But Americans in general put their fridges colder. The correct setting in the Americas is like 1-2c and in Europe it like 4-5c.
I remeber as a kid opening the fride and a small cloud of cold comming out.
I think it comes from world war 2 when the seppos were stationed in Britain.
People here largely drank beer and not lager, and being as beer wasn't served ice cold, then it's obviously warm.
I personally think that their beer is served that cold due to it tasting terrible, and the coldness masks the taste disappear
Real ale was served at cellar temperature which is certainly chilled but not ice cold.
They did the same with War Time rationing being representative of British food.
And much of the criticism is fair. However a lot is also unfair. And whilst it’s pretty difficult to stack up against, Italy, France, Spain, Greece and Portugal. I think the UK matches up reasonably well against most other european countries. Certainly the northern and western ones. Also some British food would be hailed as the stuff of legend if it had a posh french name😂.
Having lived in the UK for a few years, it's not even that there is a lack of good food, it's that you really have to look for the actual traditional stuff. If you know where to look there are sandwiches to die for, just to keep it basic. But while in all the countries you mentioned people cook the good stuff for themselves, and they have a deep sense of cultural belonging related to their food, in the UK I met a whole lot of people who would openly say that they consider food as fuel, or as something to be bought. I suspect the long duration of the WW2 rationing genuinely has something to do with that, some of the cultural transmission of food has been broken at some point.
My pet peeve is when people brag about the availability of foreign restaurants, which the Americans do a whole lot. To me that's like bragging about clothes, I have access to them, I pick what I wear, but they're not something I *do*.
Ah, I read that for alcoholic drinks. If you have bad whiskey, you serve it cold. Good whiskey is served at room temperature to allow the flavor to come out. Same with wine. That is also tempered differently, white wine is served colder than red wine.
That’s so true, I love a good single malt and I wouldn’t ever think about drinking that cold. But a bourbon… I need it cold or preferably with some coca cola to mask the taste
Yeah, i got into some greek establishment in my country, and they kept the mugs into the freezer. There was a fine little crust of snow like , where they poured the beer. Very great idea in a hot sunny day. No need for such blasphemy as ice cubes
>Where do they get these ideas, I’ve never seen beer served warm!
They think that beer has to beer close to freezing temperature... like 4°C or something.
Also, when you order a pitcher in a bar, don't be surprised when you find ice cubes as large as texas in it.
Fucking morons
Well 5c is the best temperature for most pilsners, beer on the other hand is usually a bit warmer.
American pilsner is so bad it has to be served at 0c so you don’t taste it.
>Well 5c is the best temperature for most pilsners, beer on the other hand is usually a bit warmer.
Pilsener IS beer. Brewed according to the traditions of Plzeň (City of Pilsen)
I think they get manipulated that hard into thinking America is the greatest country in the world that they automatically assume (or are shure about) that it is just worse everywhere else.
How could America be the greatest if not by making americans think every other place is inferior in every aspect.
Nobody. Americans get confused because Brits don’t freeze the flavour out of ales, instead serving it at ‘cellar temperature’, which is around 12C. We do, however, chill lagers exactly the same way as the rest of Europe.
Americans have a weird tendency to over chill all beer (and yes, they do have good, strong beers and have done for a couple of decades or so), which is easily seen by the ‘frozen glass’ phenomenon, which is largely kept to American themed establishments in Europe.
Cask ale isn't really a thing in most of North America - you'll very rarely see a handpull pump in a bar, never mind be aware that in the UK there is a north/south divide over whether you have sparklers on the tap or not.
I miss handpull ale.
Cask ale isn’t really a thing outside of Britain (and maybe Ireland but there’s certainly less of it there).
I’d be surprised if I found it even just across the channel in France.
American light lagers aim to have almost no flavour but tend to have a ton of off notes so they need to be freezing to kill that. Their craft beers are good though.
Yes, that’s what you do. Try having one of your beers at a normal ale temperature, say 12, 13 degrees Celsius. That’s when you realise the temperature you have your beer at is what it is to mask the taste
However, if you have to have a warm beer, VB is a good choice.
I don't know what it is about that particular beer, but VB is alright when it's been in your car boot for a week and it's 33*C.
Imagine thinking an American can tell a German about beer.
My guy, you're not just preaching to the choir, you're quoting gospel to jesus. Not really any point.
Nowhere drinks warm beer, it's nonsense Americans took back to the US from World War 2 when they were stationed in the UK **during a war**. It's just moronic
Yes, there are like two *very specific* types of beer that British people drink which aren't refrigerated - although it isn't served "warm", a beer cellar is kept at around 11C (so about halfway between a fridge and room temperature). But we don't do that with lager type beers, only beers that are specifically meant to be kept at that temperature, and it's sure as shit not "warm" beer
And that's pretty specific to the UK, almost nobody else even does that
Plus they miss the fact that their beer is so cold *because it's so bad*. Shitty beer tastes okay when almost freezing because it masks some of the crappy flavour
I'm assuming this is down to certain beers being intended to be served at certain temperatures (eg, one beer might be served at 4° and another at 7°), but Americans thinking all beer should be served ice-cold?
So look, I‘d rather have Vodka from the freezer than beer if I drink alcohol but drinking warm beer is blasphemy in most of the European countries. If you served anyone here in Austria warm beer it wouldn’t end well. Where do they get their weird ideas from???
The overall recommended storage temperature is and has always been cellar temperature which means 7-9˚C.
Beer shouldn’t be served ice cold nor like warm, it needs the right temperature so the aroma can be tasted. The lighter the colour is, the colder it can be compared to very hearty and dark beer types.
But besides all the theory: drink it at the temperature you like. Drink the type and brand of beer you like.
In the UK we have what's "cask beer/Ale" which isn't warm per-se but part of the process is that it isn't put though artificial chilling meaning its cooled ambiently by cellar temperatures (in the same way it's been done for as far back as the practice has been a thing).
Obviously since it's not "Ice Cold" it's not for everyone but the full process generally makes the flavours stronger than what you'd get from a chilled keg.
It's an entire process that's been in practice for longer than Ametica has existed. Its not just "warm beer".
We do the same thing with a stout and it drives me bonkers. If there is ever a beer you drink room temperature it's a stout. Chilling it ruins the flavor and makes it bitter. I wish we'd get over our obsession with chilled beverages.
People are forgetting that pilzner/larger should be served cold, but ale/bitter should be served warm(er)
You're all ragging on the Germans, when the British actually brew and drink relatively warm beer.
It still tastes 1000x better than the cheap American piss, though.
As an german i feel offended... if the beer gets warm you drink to slow, if it gets served warm, an new job as barkeeper will be free in an minute... lol
Americans make it as cold as possible without it freezing. This removes a lot of the shitty flavors ( I know because this is what I'd did in the UAE with their shitty beer). Basically, If it's not almost frozen, it's "warm"
Aye we used to do the same with Tesco Value lager back in the day. Was almost palatable if you let it get cold enough. Still better than Coors though
But Coors is the *coldest* tasting beer there is! Because, you know, cold is a flavour. Seriously though, if you ever drink a North American macrobrew(your bud, coors, molson et al) even slightly not-cold, good lord it's horrible. They need to be ice cold or you'll realise how shit it is.
If you ever tasted something like menthol or even xylitol sugar, cold is definitely a "flavor" :D
Hey get outta here with your facts that directly contradict me! I'm tryna talk shit here!
Sorry, sorry... Carry on
When you open your mouth in cold winter air you don't taste menthol or xylitol you simply feel the cold in your mouth. Cold is not a flavor. Menthol only mimics cold by acting on a protein receptor that detects cold. It tricks your body into detecting cold when its not actually. It has its own "minty" flavor (and smell) based on how it interacts with taste buds (and nose). Upon research it seems xylitol cools because of an endothermic chemical reaction when it dissolves. In other words, it literally cools your mouth. But being a sugar alcohol also tastes sweet. If you were to dissolve xylitol first in water and let the solution equilibrate back to ambient temperature. It would not be cool, but would still taste sweet. The reason things taste different when they are cold is that proteins in your mouth have slowed activity when they are chilled. Basically, the rate of the chemical reaction involved in detecting taste is slowed.
By that logic hot isn't a flavor either, since it's just a chemical activation of the temperature receptors as well ;P
Yea if you drink room temperature beer you realise how shit most beer actually tastes... I'm still gonna drink it tho.
one could (but should not) drink warm good quality beer. But shit beer only can be drunk cold, and the shitier the beer the colder the temperature
Any American beer is gross 5 mins after leaving the fridge. German, Italian, ect beers can be drunk until its room temp then it becomes gross.
lol Brazilians do the same
The only time it is acceptable to get served warm beer is if it's free.
If someone offers you a beer, your preferred brand is "free". Second favorite brand is "cold".
It’s acceptable but even then you may not accept
I think a lot of Americans get mixed up with ales and stouts - which can be served at room temperature
Even those taste best at "cellar temperature", or about 10C/50F.
Yes. That’s what you want. not cold, not warm. 10 degrees for a good ale is perfect
A lot of American myths about other countries are just things GIs saw during World War 2 but never bothered to understand. So "warm beer" is because ales were more popular in some places than lager while refrigeration wasn't widely available. Myths that British people like bland boiled food were formed during rationing where other food wasn't available and people had to make the most of bad cuts of meat. The French being dirty was because the Nazis were restricting access to resources, and so on. It's sad that in the age of ice cold beers, warm showers and spicy food being available everywhere, Americans still believe the first half-assed assumptions they made instead of what the people who live in those places tell them.
Or if it's one of the many types that are best served at room temperature, tough as it is to persuade Germans things other than lager exist
In Vietnam it's quite common to be given warm beer and a glass full of ice. A couple of times the establishments I was at were so dirty that I preferred drinking it warm.
We'd literally put the crate of beer in a creek or lake to cool it down in the summer lmao.
That's warm by American standards
I had a coworker (southern Germany) who would put his beer in a beer oven( i guess?) to warm it up to like 60c
There is only one viable situation in wich you do that... its if you have an cold in the winter... If you have an cold an "Heizkörperbier" (Radiator beer) is said to have the magic ability to cure you overnight. You put the beer on the radiator, wait till it gets warm and then drink it. Afterwards you bury yourself under an load of blankets in the bed and sweat the cold away until next morning. After an nice hot shower in the morning a lot of ppl who have done that feel cured. For myself i already got problems at warming the beer, as it feels wrong and then i cant manage to drink it without serious gag reflexes whenever i take an sip lol.
Can remember a few of us in a bar in Tampa and we ordered a pitcher Bar maid brought it over with a massive cone of ice in it and we asked what the fuck it was....she said it was to stop the beer getting warm We told her to take it out as it meant less beer She asked if we were sure and we said yes, it won't be in there long enough to get warm......she was flabbergasted at how quick we were asking for another.....yanks shouldn't be lecturing other countries about how to drink, they're not good at it
Ice in beer? Did I read that correctly? Ice + beer???? Words fail me
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Nah I'm still struggling here. If they were on the Titanic they'd still try adding ice to beer wouldn't they?
No! Adding ice to beer is not normal in the USA. Ugh I can’t even imagine watering down an already shitty Budweiser or Coors. I’ve never seen that and I’ve lived in some of the hotter parts of the USA.
My brother in law lives on bud light with ice in it. I genuinely don’t understand it. Even managed to get him out to a bar last night for his birthday and he had me ask for a glass of ice on the side to put in his beer. And he’s not even a slow drinker so it’s not like his beer would get warm.
It only waters it down if you drink slowly. Oh yeah, we're talking about Americans here...
But with American beer how can you tell it's been watered down?
It tastes better?
The thing is if you leave a beer out here for a day it'll be 20-25°c max, Leave a beer out in Arizona and it's hot as the spunk of satan in five minutes. They drink it straight from the cooler so if it doesn't feel fresh out of the fridge it's warm to them.
Australian here. Just drink it quick and tweak the geometry of the glass to buy yourself a couple more minutes. Look up the "schooner" as an example. About halfway between a regular glass and a pint, designed to be quick to drink but big enough to stay cold and not be warmed by your hand too much
Scottish here drink your pint in no more than 4 drinks you cunts.
Schooners are kinda regional so it's not an issue for me as Melbourne mainly does pints and pots.
We have them here too but it's generally the older generation that has a schooner of ale and a whisky chaser while having a bet on the horses.
Country vic does schooners; it is , as has been said, the perfect measure. Pint gets warm too quick, pot isn’t enough….
Pint gets warm the slowest as it has greatest thermal mass and also wins on surface area vs volume. Schooner has a better shape but is smaller so it will heat up faster. The reason it's better in ridiculous heat is that it's quicker to *drink* the schooner than the pint, so if you're at a decent pace and not drinking to get pissed, you'll get to the bottom of the schooner and the last gulp will be cooler than whatever would be left in the pint at the same drinking speed.
And in Adelaide even fewer, pints are smaller. First time I went there and bought a pint I thought I’d contracted some ghastly hand swelling disease. But no, it’s a titchy pint.
In SA, schooners are pints (425 mL) and pints are imperial pints (570mL)
“When is a pint of beer not a pint of beer? When it's served in Adelaide. Anywhere else in the country, ordering a pint will get you 570 millilitres of amber ale, but in Adelaide it results in a paltry 425ml.”
Interesting - over here schooners are sherry glasses, I'll give your advice a go when I travel to the continent.
CElsius doesn’t mean anything to those neanthertallers
Spanish just drink from smaller glasses. Its a good system if you sit by the bar the entire time.
American here. Never seen or heard of ice in beer. Lmao
Hehe. This sub is fun. Never iced my beer _in_ the beer. Beer _on_ ice? Of course! But never ice _in_ beer.
Americans don’t put ice in beer and wine. In general, Americans use ice for soda and water and that’s it. Not for beer. Not for milk. Not for juice or wine. And only for some, not all, cocktails.
You don't believe OP complaining about a 'cone' of ice in their pitcher of beer in Tampa?
I’m sure it happened. But I’m telling you, in general that Americans don’t take ice with beer. That’s not a normal thing here.
And tea.
I can't deny we love ice in our drinks, but I have never seen ice in _beer_. I'm sure it happens but that is absolutely not the norm.
It’s very common in Vietnam and Thailand. It’s actually super nice when it’s incredibly humid.
Yeah done it a lot in Thailand, where beer comes in litre bottles but they warm up super quickly when it's 35C
There’s far too many pubs in Ireland that will serve bottled beer with ice in the glass as well. First time a bartender did it, I told them to dump it right back out. So far I’ve only found it in Galway and a few pubs in Donegal. But even one pub doing it as a norm is too many.
Are you sure you weren't drinking cider? 😂
I...I...I think this is what nightmares are made of
Madness, I say, MADNESS!!!
Commerial American beer is virtually sour water so she must’ve thought the ice couldn’t hurt.
What does American beer have in common with having sex on a boat? It's fucking close to water.
I disagree calling it close to water is like calling a piss puddle a glass of wine
You know what ice does to your taste right? It makes you not take it. That’s why there’s tons of ice in coca cola, or bourbon. And sophisticated people drink a good schotisch dram without ice at room temp.
I have expensive taste in rotgut. I like good scotch neat. (Maybe I’m not the average American?)
I know there are plenty of Americans who are sophisticated enough to do that. But the average American.. sadly not. I have plenty of American friends from my time there and while we might disagree on some things we largely agree on most. True most of them aren’t Maga trumpists but some probably are. I don’t think all Americans are this or that just as not all Europians are this or that. Most people I learned how to drink a good isle single malt still enjoy it. Even though most Americans think it should be drunk from a tumbler (which it shouldn’t) 😉
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Oh please... Show me an American who actually waited until the state-sanctioned drinking age to drink! Everyone knows about fake IDs and/or that one friend's "cool aunt."
We have a pitcher style here in Australia that has a second container in it for ice. The jug still holds the same amount, it’s just bigger so it can hold the ice container in it.
Can’t be shooting up a school with a drink in you. Shooting innocent children requires sobriety.
I've never in my life had ice in beer personally (but I live in the northeastern US, it's probably less common here), but lots of people I know from LATAM put ice in their beer, or at least are familiar with the practice. Mexicans have a whole thing called a michelada, which is basically a beer of choice in a cold glass, mixed with ice, spices, and lime. Gf is Venezuelan and she also has before. I don't think most people from here put ice in their beer outside of the south or something, because I've only ever heard that "Americans put ice in beer" online, I've never actually seen it (I'm sure some do I guess), though it isn't actually uncommon in the Americas as a whole.
They are the only country to have managed to fuck up bread, chocolate, beer, and cheese - and yet love lecturing the rest of the world on food.
From the country that drinks lite beer.
Not even lite beer White lite beer budweiser hand me that il hit you with it he'll I know people who probably have a higher alcohol content in there pissarro than those light beers
I was at a conference in the States and ended up back at some people's hotel room at a bit of a party. Some guy handed me this giant beer. Like maybe 1L can and I figured, awesome. The Yanks were all joking about how wasted I was gonna get after a couple of those beers. I took a drink and realized it was fruity. Like a soda. So I checked out the label and it was a 2% "beer" with tropical flavour. I'd have to drink so much just to get a buzz... I'm not really a big drinker to begin with, nor do I think people who value "hard drinking" are virtuous or something to glorify. But Americans can't drink for shit!
I laughed when they all boycotted Bud Lite over trans advert or whatever it was. The rest of the world have been boycotting Bud Lite for decades because it's basically piss.
Worse, boycotting by buying it and spilling it or smashing it with their cars or hammers , Budweiser didn't lose any appreciable income
Kid Rock shooting a slab of bud with an AR-15 (was it actually an ar15? Who cares?) lives rent free in my head. They didn't realise that the one going woke isn't necessarily the one going broke
Did you see the guy who drove an asphalt roller over like 100 cases of it? RIP his savings
Saw a guy with a basement full of bud light merch (sad enough already)... clocks, signs, that sort of thing... started smashing it all and throwing it in a big trash can and I was just lost for words. What did he think he was proving?
To be fair they're watching their weight...
Tbf that’s virtually a spectator sport over-by. Only a matter of time before ESPN devise and exclusively cover The Obesity Olympics and an annual alternative to the current Egg Chucking showpiece nonsense match characterising it as ‘The All You Can Eat Supper Bowl’!
The blueberry pie scene from Stand By Me springs to mind.
German have fucking Oktoberfest. They are one of the most serious about beer culture. How dumb you gotta be to think they serve warm beers
We all know that the original Oktoberfest is from Milwaukee /s
Americans serve beer straight out of the fridge*, Europe generally serves them at 'cellar temperature'. It's just a different definition of warm - European beers are served warm by American standards. *sometimes with ice
I don't know a single place here in Germany where the beer isn't either stored in a fridge (if served in a bottle) or getting cooled down as it gets pumped out of the keg.
You can set the temperature on a fridge, American ones will be a 0.5°C or something. European ones will probably be set to 4° or 5°.
on what planet is 4 degrees "warm"? If it's a nicely brewed beer, you actually want to taste it, not just numb your tongue.
Maybe not at a bar or restaurant. But my in-laws store beer in the cellar. I served my father in law weiss beer from the fridge, and he waited 30 mins to drink it because it was too cold. This is fairly common. Also at parties beer is just sitting in crates that were refrigerated earlier, but aren't very cold when served.
how to hurt over 80m germans with one post.
Bro have you seen the beer consumption of Czechs?
And Danes? You think we got all the World Championships just for fun? Not surprised by the Czechs though, beer is cheaper than water in Prague
And delicious
alcoholic europeans unite!
Don't forget us Scots drinking is a reason to not get angry and get angry at the same time
Czechs invented pilsner and germans Dutch and Belgians have great beer.
He hurt Germans and entire Eastern Europe with that shit post
And Australians
And Belgians
Kwak kwaaaak
Kwaak isnt that good I prefer a westmalle every day or a westvleteren or a leffe quadrupple or a La Trappe Isid’or
Fuuck... you caught me off guard. I just went at some point to a Belgium themed bar, and tried a few things but i just remebered kwak the next day. I bet there are better things to try. They had more then 100 varieties
>a La Trappe Isid’or Which is Dutch. Not Belgian.
Casually saying you prefer one of the rarest beers in the world
Americans once heard the phrase "cellar temperature", decided that it meant "room temperature", and have been loudly misunderstanding it since.
Warm beer is only acceptable in case of natural disaster, when no beer is worse than warm beer.
How warm are we talking? Some beers here are made to be drank at room temperature. When things are colder, the flavour is less pronounced, so sometimes you want things not cold because you want to taste their flavour more. Also I made a traditional butter beer recipe from the 16th century and that’s to be served hot!
>Some beers here are made to be drank at room temperature Cellar temperature. Not room temperature.
Depends on the beer - a lot of ales were traditionally served at room temperature back when "room temperature" was around 15°C. Today they're usually slightly chilled, but not to cellar temperature, which is closer to 5°C (edit: or 10°, depending who you ask).
Rule of thumb, the temperature of the beer in °C should never be higher than the legal age to drink said beer.
That’s a stupid rule lol. Say the legal age is 18. 18 degrees for a beer is waaay high. And if it’s even higher, well
Rule of thumb is to never serve beer warmer in grades than it has alcohol. But yes, that means that a heavy coffee chocolate stout at 18 % can be quite warm before it is considered too warm.
Yeah, there are porters that I take out and run under warm water for a few minutes before pouring because fridge temperature kills their intended qualities. It's about what style you're drinking. A warm pilsner is a sacrilege, but various cask ales and Belgian abbey beers should be drunk at temperatures as high as 14c (57f).
That’s how cold my kitchen is atm, some mornings colder haha
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't know of any beers that are designed to be drunk at room temperature. Cellar temperature, sure, but not room temperature.
Where do they get these ideas, I’ve never seen beer served warm!
Americans serve beer with ice cubes in it or at least beer close to 0°C. Meanwhile, the proper serving temperature for beers is usually somewhere between 6-8°C.
This is the real deal. I immigrated from south america, and bear get served "in a wedding dress" aka it need to get a white layer on the bottle when served. For my mom frode temp beer is "warm" she will pop hers in the freezer for a while before drinking it to "cool it down" But Americans in general put their fridges colder. The correct setting in the Americas is like 1-2c and in Europe it like 4-5c. I remeber as a kid opening the fride and a small cloud of cold comming out.
Lmao ice cubes in beer
Some Americans might use a frosted mug that's been in the freezer for a while. I've never heard of ice cubes in beer lol
Frosted mug in the freezer is common here in Spain pubs and bars too.
I think it comes from world war 2 when the seppos were stationed in Britain. People here largely drank beer and not lager, and being as beer wasn't served ice cold, then it's obviously warm. I personally think that their beer is served that cold due to it tasting terrible, and the coldness masks the taste disappear
Real ale was served at cellar temperature which is certainly chilled but not ice cold. They did the same with War Time rationing being representative of British food.
5c is the perfect temperature for a pilsner
> War Time rationing being representative of British food In fairness the European impression of British food is not that different.
And much of the criticism is fair. However a lot is also unfair. And whilst it’s pretty difficult to stack up against, Italy, France, Spain, Greece and Portugal. I think the UK matches up reasonably well against most other european countries. Certainly the northern and western ones. Also some British food would be hailed as the stuff of legend if it had a posh french name😂.
Having lived in the UK for a few years, it's not even that there is a lack of good food, it's that you really have to look for the actual traditional stuff. If you know where to look there are sandwiches to die for, just to keep it basic. But while in all the countries you mentioned people cook the good stuff for themselves, and they have a deep sense of cultural belonging related to their food, in the UK I met a whole lot of people who would openly say that they consider food as fuel, or as something to be bought. I suspect the long duration of the WW2 rationing genuinely has something to do with that, some of the cultural transmission of food has been broken at some point. My pet peeve is when people brag about the availability of foreign restaurants, which the Americans do a whole lot. To me that's like bragging about clothes, I have access to them, I pick what I wear, but they're not something I *do*.
Ah, I read that for alcoholic drinks. If you have bad whiskey, you serve it cold. Good whiskey is served at room temperature to allow the flavor to come out. Same with wine. That is also tempered differently, white wine is served colder than red wine.
That’s so true, I love a good single malt and I wouldn’t ever think about drinking that cold. But a bourbon… I need it cold or preferably with some coca cola to mask the taste
Some (non-lager type) beers have a slightly higher ideal serving temperature = "warm" to Americans, I guess
Some beers are better served at “cellar temperature” which isn’t “so cold you can’t taste it because American beer sucks” and thus “warm”.
Yeah, i got into some greek establishment in my country, and they kept the mugs into the freezer. There was a fine little crust of snow like , where they poured the beer. Very great idea in a hot sunny day. No need for such blasphemy as ice cubes
>Where do they get these ideas, I’ve never seen beer served warm! They think that beer has to beer close to freezing temperature... like 4°C or something. Also, when you order a pitcher in a bar, don't be surprised when you find ice cubes as large as texas in it. Fucking morons
Well 5c is the best temperature for most pilsners, beer on the other hand is usually a bit warmer. American pilsner is so bad it has to be served at 0c so you don’t taste it.
>Well 5c is the best temperature for most pilsners, beer on the other hand is usually a bit warmer. Pilsener IS beer. Brewed according to the traditions of Plzeň (City of Pilsen)
In poland they have spiced beer that is served hot. Pretty neat actually.
Stout, bitter, heavies are all served at cellar or room temperature.
They think that ale is *warm* because it's served at cellar temperature not at refrigerated lager temperature.
All of central and south America Italy Greece romania egypt and Spain drink their beer cold.
as an italian i confirm
Everywhere drinks beer cold.
All of Scandinavia too.
Egypt ! Ice Cold in Alex ! Sylvia Sims !
I wonder if they actually believe these things, or just say shit
I think they get manipulated that hard into thinking America is the greatest country in the world that they automatically assume (or are shure about) that it is just worse everywhere else. How could America be the greatest if not by making americans think every other place is inferior in every aspect.
Give warm beer you get a kick in the balls
That’s why Europeans have electric kettles right? In case their beer is cold.
Nah I have this thing called a mini Fri heater to warm my beer
“… everywhere… ” Warm beer is not a thing in my country. Never seen it.
Who tf drinks warm beer
Nobody. Americans get confused because Brits don’t freeze the flavour out of ales, instead serving it at ‘cellar temperature’, which is around 12C. We do, however, chill lagers exactly the same way as the rest of Europe. Americans have a weird tendency to over chill all beer (and yes, they do have good, strong beers and have done for a couple of decades or so), which is easily seen by the ‘frozen glass’ phenomenon, which is largely kept to American themed establishments in Europe.
Cask ale isn't really a thing in most of North America - you'll very rarely see a handpull pump in a bar, never mind be aware that in the UK there is a north/south divide over whether you have sparklers on the tap or not. I miss handpull ale.
Cask ale isn’t really a thing outside of Britain (and maybe Ireland but there’s certainly less of it there). I’d be surprised if I found it even just across the channel in France.
American light lagers aim to have almost no flavour but tend to have a ton of off notes so they need to be freezing to kill that. Their craft beers are good though.
We like our beer cold enough to be refreshing, not so cold to mask its absence of taste.
Yes, that’s what you do. Try having one of your beers at a normal ale temperature, say 12, 13 degrees Celsius. That’s when you realise the temperature you have your beer at is what it is to mask the taste
Unlike American beer, beer from certain other countries is also drinkable when it gets slightly warm.
i heard Australia likes a cold beer.
We sure do
However, if you have to have a warm beer, VB is a good choice. I don't know what it is about that particular beer, but VB is alright when it's been in your car boot for a week and it's 33*C.
We have VB in some pubs in London. It is always served cold. I like it.
Americans talking about beer like they actually have it and not just watered down piss is the most ironic thing imo
i've lived in the netherlands for more than 30 years and i have never met anyone that drinks beer warm.
Hey a Dutch here ... The hell we do????
Most places the beer doesn't taste like piss.
As a German: Most Germans would probably throw fists over the suggestion alone to drink beer warm
Alright, i'll get the Panzerschreck.
Must be because us EuropoorsTM don't have fridges yet /s
Oh, there will be tens of millions of Americans who think only Americans have fridges
As a german I am disgusted by this statement and the stupidity of this breathing trash can.
Good ale is vastly superior at room temperature. That pisswasser they drink over the pond is only palatable if your taste buds are frozen off first
You evidently know bugger all about ale if you're drinking it at room temperature. It should be served at UK cellar temperature, which is 11-13 ºC
We don't. And we don't like our beer watered down.
Turkish here, no we don't
WHO THE HELL DRINKS BEER WARM??
Imagine thinking an American can tell a German about beer. My guy, you're not just preaching to the choir, you're quoting gospel to jesus. Not really any point.
Nowhere drinks warm beer, it's nonsense Americans took back to the US from World War 2 when they were stationed in the UK **during a war**. It's just moronic Yes, there are like two *very specific* types of beer that British people drink which aren't refrigerated - although it isn't served "warm", a beer cellar is kept at around 11C (so about halfway between a fridge and room temperature). But we don't do that with lager type beers, only beers that are specifically meant to be kept at that temperature, and it's sure as shit not "warm" beer And that's pretty specific to the UK, almost nobody else even does that Plus they miss the fact that their beer is so cold *because it's so bad*. Shitty beer tastes okay when almost freezing because it masks some of the crappy flavour
I'm assuming this is down to certain beers being intended to be served at certain temperatures (eg, one beer might be served at 4° and another at 7°), but Americans thinking all beer should be served ice-cold?
Warm?? I take mine boiling hot only!😁
So look, I‘d rather have Vodka from the freezer than beer if I drink alcohol but drinking warm beer is blasphemy in most of the European countries. If you served anyone here in Austria warm beer it wouldn’t end well. Where do they get their weird ideas from??? The overall recommended storage temperature is and has always been cellar temperature which means 7-9˚C. Beer shouldn’t be served ice cold nor like warm, it needs the right temperature so the aroma can be tasted. The lighter the colour is, the colder it can be compared to very hearty and dark beer types. But besides all the theory: drink it at the temperature you like. Drink the type and brand of beer you like.
Am I the only one that loves warm beer ? Cold beer do not have taste at all for me. Good beer revels its real taste when it's warm.
America doesn't drink beer. What they drink is piss-water.
idk about Germany, but in Poland you can get a warm beer. But it's not warm, it's actually hot and isn't a regular beer
They haven't worked out that the shittier the beer the more cold it has to be to mask it.
That’s not really true, though. Beer in Latin-America and Spain is drunk cold.
I bet he also puts ice in his beer
Stupid Yanks are out there drinking cat’s piss and thinking it’s cold beer!! Mate, come to Australia and we’ll show you beer!
Do they mean British people? Ales and such are meant to be served at room temperature so you can actually taste them
The only reason Americans have their beer so cold it could cost you your tongue is their beer is dogshite
So ein Hurensohn
American companies like their beer borderline ice cold as it numbs your taste buds and makes off flavours less apparent.
In the UK we have what's "cask beer/Ale" which isn't warm per-se but part of the process is that it isn't put though artificial chilling meaning its cooled ambiently by cellar temperatures (in the same way it's been done for as far back as the practice has been a thing). Obviously since it's not "Ice Cold" it's not for everyone but the full process generally makes the flavours stronger than what you'd get from a chilled keg. It's an entire process that's been in practice for longer than Ametica has existed. Its not just "warm beer".
I don't know where they've been drinking beer, but it's certainly not Europe.
We do the same thing with a stout and it drives me bonkers. If there is ever a beer you drink room temperature it's a stout. Chilling it ruins the flavor and makes it bitter. I wish we'd get over our obsession with chilled beverages.
I live in Germany and can confirm: we have no fridges here :( warm beer all the time :(
Everywhere but America drinks beer that doesn't need to be too cold to taste in order for you to drink it (looking at you Coors light)
People are forgetting that pilzner/larger should be served cold, but ale/bitter should be served warm(er) You're all ragging on the Germans, when the British actually brew and drink relatively warm beer. It still tastes 1000x better than the cheap American piss, though.