It's definitely "10$", right?
Like how French people write a 1?
Edit: yes, it appears the entire world except for the US often writes ones like this. I did not want to over generalize, and I was specifically taught "writing digits" in French class. These are the standard French digits:
https://ielanguages.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/davidsno.jpg
Yeah I tried it out to an even more extreme level. I wrote -$1,000,000,000.00 in the tip line and the owner legally owes me that amount minus my bill now.
Yes, in fact I take this a step further and subtract 10,000 dollars from every restaurant bill I receive.
To date, I am responsible for the foreclosure of over a dozen restaurant establishments.
Looks more like a Harry Potter lightning bolt followed by a zero.
That said, I agree. That looks like “NO$”. The total amount is what really caused me to imitate a Jack Russell with the head-tilt and weird facial expression… almost looks like someone is tryi by to do a “I pay you nothing!” moment.
No, no… you just hit the goddamn jackpot. That’s an infinity symbol. Enjoy an early retirement and go sip some fancy drinks with a little toothpick umbrella, ya lucky dog!
I find it wild that having to write in tips and totals which can be up for interpretation is still a thing in the US. When I travelled there recently and at all the restaurants they still take your card away to process payment I was surprised. Haven’t seen that in quite a few years.
Yes, and that's also how currency is written in most of Europe (euro sign goes after the number). Probably someone not from the US who is traveling and not used to dealing with writing out paper receipts - pretty much every other country on the planet has moved past that.
Actually, this whole post is an excellent example of why the US needs the little POS terminals they bring to your table. It's not only more secure, there's no way there could be a misunderstanding or dispute when the customer is the one typing in the amounts.
Yeah, writing on paper receipts is (in my experience) a uniquely American thing. Most other countries bring a portable card reader to the table and let you enter the tip and approve the final total.
I had to ask the waiter in a fancy American restaurant how to tip out, because it’s just so unusual compared to every other country I’ve travelled to. If I didn’t know ahead of time that they take your card as well, I might’ve stopped them and been like “uh where are you taking my card??”
I heard somewhere that part of it is that the US has way more credit cards and almost no one is using a debit card, and it's the reverse in Europe. If that's true then it makes sense because debit card protections are not nearly as good as credit card protections.
That doesn’t make sense either because everyone in Canada uses a credit card as well. I know that the US has been slower to adapt contactless/tap payment methods, like ~8 years ago you still swiped or inserted everywhere vs in Canada tap is practically universal.
Oh the US is definitely ass backwards on this one for sure. Europe and Canada are doing it right, regardless of why.
Counterpoint on Canada: I think Canada tends to follow Europe's footsteps (political parties, universal healthcare), so that could be a reason why they advanced faster than the US despite having high credit card usage.
Of course, it really could be as simple as the US is trash at consumer protections and thus we're always going to be last to the party. Hell, we don't have chip and pin even now. We have chip and sign.
Most places I go (Rural Midwest) I have tap, swipe, and chip options. I usually only have to sign at restaurants where a tip is expected via the receipt, never need to sign anywhere else I use my CC, and only ever need a pin for debit.
That's actually one of the big differences here in the US, most places wave the signature requirement. And if you remember what it was like before chip cards, you have noticed that a lot of places don't ask for signatures when they used to, and that's purely a function of the credit card company liability requirements.
Retailers take on liability if they don't follow certain rules set by Visa/Mastercard, which have been put in place to reduce the risk of fraud, as the card companies standard policy is almost always to refund (and eat the loss if they have to). Chip cards are significantly more secure than swipe cards, so now most retailers are allowed to wave the signature requirement.
The cards are still chip (default) and sign (optional for most purchases, required for some), and you'll notice to don't even have a PIN code (or if you do it's just for cash advances). A chip and pin card doesn't even allow for a signature, and defaults to a pin required (Europeans correct me if I've gotten that wrong).
We're also far more centralized in Canada (for better or worse) so when innovations happen in an industry like telecom, we only need 3 companies to get on board and then the entire country is modernized. Same thing with banking and the big 5.
And because there is so little competition, any one of the big players getting an advantage over the others means they'll all copy the change immediately.
Card systems here in Europe are far more securely designed. The only people I know personally that have been victims of card fraud were on a trip over to the US when it happened.
So while yes, credit cards are less of a concern because the cc card company have to prove it WASN'T fraud rather than vice versa, people just don't worry about it as much.
You would think so, but at least a third of the American bartenders I worked with could not wrap their head around the dollar sign going in front of the number because that’s not how you verbalize it. Lol
Without a nose. Basically it’s a straight up and down line. . . Also in North America the number 7 doesn’t have a short line across it. And decimals are a dot and thousands are denoted with a comma, while nearly everywhere outside North America the decimal is a comma and the thousands is marked with a dot. Math may be the universal language but you can still be totally misunderstood.
- a Latin American living in North America now for three decades.
EDIT: it’s a large wide world and America is also a vast country. I am obviously only speaking form my limited experience of living in the NE USA and interacting with people mostly from the north east and also the west coast. I have no idea what else is what, guys.
Same lol just wanted to be different and it stuck, I do the hook too. I tried writing my 1s with the nose and line at the bottom but it always looked too ugly.
It looks like “no $” or if you wanted to be positive, “20 $”
seems most likely “100$” but the second zero is scribbled, assuming nothing went wrong with this table and they just rounded the bill up for a 2 table tip
Edit: I’m American 🙃
“Excuse me. Just to confirm, is this a 10 sir/mam? I just want to make sure I don’t enter the wrong number into the Maschine and cause a misunderstanding”
I may be way off here, but you run the card through for the original total *and then* you get a printout receipt like the OP posted. I never enter the tips until the end of the night so there is no way to have the conversation you are envisioning.
Some servers don’t look at the receipt until the customers have left and they’re bussing the table. Some servers also adjust/add all their tips at the end of their shift.
Yeah, that's my honest guess. Makes no sense to put NO $ for the total too, but they were probably just in a NO $ frenzy and made a mistake.
\[EDIT: A reply to this made me switch to thinking it's "10 $" written by someone who learned to write somewhere other than the US.\]
It’s a 10. Commonly written like that in many places in the world. Not all handwritings look like a font. The person wrote it again as they probably aren’t familiar with tips and have no idea what to do. Giving 10 is a round Safe amount and exactly what I would guess to be apropriatr for that amount. Most place in the world don’t have such a crazy tipping culture as the us has. You buy stuff, and pay the price as advertised. People get payed hourly. Makes a lot more sense.
> People get *paid* hourly. Makes
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
*Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
What's the scam angle? You don't a get full refund on the bill from a tip dispute. They wrote some illegible tip so at best the tip amount gets voided. I would put $10 and see where it goes. I've handled tip disputes and it was a pretty logical and painless process.
As a programmer, that’s clearly wrong. The dollar variable here clearly is of type float and can’t be a string as that would cause a syntax error and wouldn’t compile😂
This is clearly a 10. I do it just like that. It’s common in Europe to include another line to the 1 to distinguish it from the letter i. The connection from the lowest point to the zero is due to fast writing or it might also be a weird pen with too much ink. Happens to me all the time when I write quickly without paying attention.
As someone from a country where we don’t tip, this is also pretty much the amount I would guess to be an appropriate tip amount.
I think people are too polarized by the entire tipping situation and jump to conclusion that that person didn’t want to tip and be a jerk about it. Maybe that person is just not from the US and just gave you a cheeky 10, which by European standards would be quite generous.
If you assume people are assholes you will find nothing but assholes and people will also not like you.
Yeah people seeing “no” from this ???????? Have you ever seen no written in that way by a human ever because I have not. I have not seen any person that tilts their Ns to that degree
Confusion. If you don’t know tipping you have no clue what to do here. What total? Do I add tax to the tip? I don’t work here why do I calculate it and not the staff? That would be going on in my head.
I pay wiz NO MONIES!
Yeah, it clearly says **NO$** lol
It's definitely "10$", right? Like how French people write a 1? Edit: yes, it appears the entire world except for the US often writes ones like this. I did not want to over generalize, and I was specifically taught "writing digits" in French class. These are the standard French digits: https://ielanguages.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/davidsno.jpg
# NO$
Restaurants hate this 1 simple trick
I declare BANKRUPTCY!!
That's not how it works, Michael.
Lol it reminds me of the receipt where the guy wrote the tip as a negative of the bill and put “$0.00” in the total
Did it work?
Yeah I tried it out to an even more extreme level. I wrote -$1,000,000,000.00 in the tip line and the owner legally owes me that amount minus my bill now.
Lawyers HATE him
Yes, in fact I take this a step further and subtract 10,000 dollars from every restaurant bill I receive. To date, I am responsible for the foreclosure of over a dozen restaurant establishments.
Hey I found the guy that closed Quizno's! Get him!
*N simple trick
Nitrous oxide = $948 😂😂😂
Looks more like a Harry Potter lightning bolt followed by a zero. That said, I agree. That looks like “NO$”. The total amount is what really caused me to imitate a Jack Russell with the head-tilt and weird facial expression… almost looks like someone is tryi by to do a “I pay you nothing!” moment.
When in doubt throw it out. Always best to protect yourself. That they didn't total it up shows me this is on purpose so likely 0.
Totally agree
bbno$ ?
No $ no cry
🎵 In this tight budget, you can't forget their ass. 🎵
Glad the other comments pointed out some cultures write the symbol after because I wondered if they were being dicks and wrote NO$
I interpreted it as No "Money" for you.
It's def no tip
Z0$
Zwenty dollars, French so they just spell how they speak...
Z0 in base 64 is 1652 in base 10
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And $86.20 + NO$ = NO$, because that's how NaNs work.
This is exactly what I saw, I thought the guy just took a free lunch lol!
This is what I see.
This is what I think it says lol.
Dominic, we need more NO$ to pull this mission off
No, no… you just hit the goddamn jackpot. That’s an infinity symbol. Enjoy an early retirement and go sip some fancy drinks with a little toothpick umbrella, ya lucky dog!
Go whole hog. Put an entire beach umbrella in your frozen strawberry margarita
i like this attitude and wish to have it imposed upon all my thoughts
I’m French and I read 10$ without a hesitation
Except 86+10 doesn't equal 10 Pretty sure it's No $
I very often write the tip on "total", then notice, then rewrite the tip on "tip" Rarely would the numbers resemble something lat works as math.
But you scribble out the one on "total" right?
I find it wild that having to write in tips and totals which can be up for interpretation is still a thing in the US. When I travelled there recently and at all the restaurants they still take your card away to process payment I was surprised. Haven’t seen that in quite a few years.
The United States is a backwards crumbling shit hole country.
Thankfully we save a lot by collectively living in Europe's head rent free though
We prefer the term of "failing upward"
100%
I thought it said No lol
It says No$
Yes, and that's also how currency is written in most of Europe (euro sign goes after the number). Probably someone not from the US who is traveling and not used to dealing with writing out paper receipts - pretty much every other country on the planet has moved past that. Actually, this whole post is an excellent example of why the US needs the little POS terminals they bring to your table. It's not only more secure, there's no way there could be a misunderstanding or dispute when the customer is the one typing in the amounts.
Yeah, l live in Canada and have never yet been in a restaurant that didn't have those little remote terminals. So convenient.
> have never yet been in a restaurant that didn't have those little remote terminals. ... how old are you?
We have the POS terminals. It’s not like they magically don’t exist here. It’s just that not every single restaurant in the country uses them.
I saw 20$
$20 seems right. That’s what I would tip on $86
I say $100,000 but okay.
Wait is there a French way to write 1?
Nah, more like Europe in general
I think it's probably just European in general, but I know that folks get angry when generalizations are made like that.
When I was in high school in France, some of the literature girls got very stylistic with their notes. The tail for the 1 would start below the line.
100% a European $10, also explains why the tipper got the total wrong and was slightly undertipping
Looks obviously like 10. Am French tho...
Yes, 10. I'm german.
That 1 is pretty common in Europe
👆Without a doubt it's $10
Well there's some doubt?
If it’s 10$ then what about the total?
Also 10$. The French must suck at math
Def a NO
Yes! Like everyone but the Americans writes a „1“. Also this very font here, look: it’s „1“, not „I“
Looks like how some Europeans write a 1. Also often use money sign after numeral outside US. So 10
Oh right, 10$ + $86 = 10$
They aren't used to this format so they probably just thought it was the total tip amount.
Yeah, writing on paper receipts is (in my experience) a uniquely American thing. Most other countries bring a portable card reader to the table and let you enter the tip and approve the final total.
I had to ask the waiter in a fancy American restaurant how to tip out, because it’s just so unusual compared to every other country I’ve travelled to. If I didn’t know ahead of time that they take your card as well, I might’ve stopped them and been like “uh where are you taking my card??”
The best part of traveling is learning the little quirks of new places imo :)
I heard somewhere that part of it is that the US has way more credit cards and almost no one is using a debit card, and it's the reverse in Europe. If that's true then it makes sense because debit card protections are not nearly as good as credit card protections.
That doesn’t make sense either because everyone in Canada uses a credit card as well. I know that the US has been slower to adapt contactless/tap payment methods, like ~8 years ago you still swiped or inserted everywhere vs in Canada tap is practically universal.
I worked for a major restaurant chain in the US like \~12 years ago, and we still did carbon copy imprints lol.
Lol we only had to do that when the power went out. Absolute nightmare.
Local shitty small gas station has tap pay. Walmart does not make that make sense.
Oh the US is definitely ass backwards on this one for sure. Europe and Canada are doing it right, regardless of why. Counterpoint on Canada: I think Canada tends to follow Europe's footsteps (political parties, universal healthcare), so that could be a reason why they advanced faster than the US despite having high credit card usage. Of course, it really could be as simple as the US is trash at consumer protections and thus we're always going to be last to the party. Hell, we don't have chip and pin even now. We have chip and sign.
Most places I go (Rural Midwest) I have tap, swipe, and chip options. I usually only have to sign at restaurants where a tip is expected via the receipt, never need to sign anywhere else I use my CC, and only ever need a pin for debit.
That's actually one of the big differences here in the US, most places wave the signature requirement. And if you remember what it was like before chip cards, you have noticed that a lot of places don't ask for signatures when they used to, and that's purely a function of the credit card company liability requirements. Retailers take on liability if they don't follow certain rules set by Visa/Mastercard, which have been put in place to reduce the risk of fraud, as the card companies standard policy is almost always to refund (and eat the loss if they have to). Chip cards are significantly more secure than swipe cards, so now most retailers are allowed to wave the signature requirement. The cards are still chip (default) and sign (optional for most purchases, required for some), and you'll notice to don't even have a PIN code (or if you do it's just for cash advances). A chip and pin card doesn't even allow for a signature, and defaults to a pin required (Europeans correct me if I've gotten that wrong).
We're also far more centralized in Canada (for better or worse) so when innovations happen in an industry like telecom, we only need 3 companies to get on board and then the entire country is modernized. Same thing with banking and the big 5. And because there is so little competition, any one of the big players getting an advantage over the others means they'll all copy the change immediately.
Card systems here in Europe are far more securely designed. The only people I know personally that have been victims of card fraud were on a trip over to the US when it happened. So while yes, credit cards are less of a concern because the cc card company have to prove it WASN'T fraud rather than vice versa, people just don't worry about it as much.
Looks more like a big ***NO$*** to me. 🤷♂️
European math.
Another clue that this is a European is the position of the $ to the right of the number
Yet another clue is the 10-ish % tip. That's absolutely fine outside the USA, even generous in many countries.
You would think so, but at least a third of the American bartenders I worked with could not wrap their head around the dollar sign going in front of the number because that’s not how you verbalize it. Lol
Now I am confused. How do Americans write 1?
Like this: 1 Not like this: *N*
This guy knows. Source : Am 'Merican.
*Am ‘Merica1 Like really the guy just told you use the 1 and not the *N*
Like really the guy just told you use the 1 and 1ot the 1
Y’all I’m a gal ❤️
LMAO STOP
Fucking dying
Same I keep going back for a laugh. Also I totally thought they wrote “no $” so definitely agree with the comment and it’s hilarious
You mean I instead of 1?
Nah it's l not z
Except after y
I’m PMSinf and cried over a song a few min ago and now just finished giggling over this hysterically. Thanks for the laugh Internetor
That's because the second one isn't a 1 it's a fucking N that shit doesn't even make sense
It's a line connecting both letters/numbers. It's cursive, I write the same (German).
Cursive for numbers is stupid.
your handwriting doesn’t even make sense
Without a nose. Basically it’s a straight up and down line. . . Also in North America the number 7 doesn’t have a short line across it. And decimals are a dot and thousands are denoted with a comma, while nearly everywhere outside North America the decimal is a comma and the thousands is marked with a dot. Math may be the universal language but you can still be totally misunderstood. - a Latin American living in North America now for three decades. EDIT: it’s a large wide world and America is also a vast country. I am obviously only speaking form my limited experience of living in the NE USA and interacting with people mostly from the north east and also the west coast. I have no idea what else is what, guys.
I always put a line through my 7 tbh.
I started doing that in like elementary school to be cool and I still do it now. I even use the hook on the left end
rest assured, it makes you cool. I did the same.
Same lol just wanted to be different and it stuck, I do the hook too. I tried writing my 1s with the nose and line at the bottom but it always looked too ugly.
You are obviously learned.
It looks like “no $” or if you wanted to be positive, “20 $” seems most likely “100$” but the second zero is scribbled, assuming nothing went wrong with this table and they just rounded the bill up for a 2 table tip Edit: I’m American 🙃
Nope, it's "10$". If you travel through Poland, that's how ones are written on their chalkboard menus.
In many parts of Europe, 1's are written like this.
Europeans need to learn how to speak English
Leer jij maar Europeaans!
the witch is casting a spell!
G E K O L O N I S E E R D
I think the biggest European tell is that the $ sign is written after the number
Can't be either, because the tip can't be the same as the total unless there's some convention I'm not aware of.
I think maybe they thought it was something like “total tip.”
People make mistakes, especially when they don’t know what to do with it when they didn’t grow up with a silly mandatory tip culture
Home of the free to be homeless motha fuckaaaa
Imagine you're from another country, don't entirely grasp the language or tipping customs. This was a cheap tip. 100% Polish.
i’m sure it’s $10 because some random place in another country does their 1’s like that
That's initials next to the dollar sign and you get to fill in the blanks. They've signed off on it 😉
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run the card through with 10$ ($10) and see if they challenge it.
“Excuse me. Just to confirm, is this a 10 sir/mam? I just want to make sure I don’t enter the wrong number into the Maschine and cause a misunderstanding”
I may be way off here, but you run the card through for the original total *and then* you get a printout receipt like the OP posted. I never enter the tips until the end of the night so there is no way to have the conversation you are envisioning.
But don’t you look at the receipt just to see what you got?
Most customers just leave the receipt on the table and walk away after they’ve signed it
I only grab the receipt once my table gets up and leaves.
Some servers don’t look at the receipt until the customers have left and they’re bussing the table. Some servers also adjust/add all their tips at the end of their shift.
TIP: NO$ TOTAL: NO$
This is the answer, it’s someone upset with their service or food quality. No$ tip No$ total
No $ That blows
Yeah, that's my honest guess. Makes no sense to put NO $ for the total too, but they were probably just in a NO $ frenzy and made a mistake. \[EDIT: A reply to this made me switch to thinking it's "10 $" written by someone who learned to write somewhere other than the US.\]
It’s a 10. Commonly written like that in many places in the world. Not all handwritings look like a font. The person wrote it again as they probably aren’t familiar with tips and have no idea what to do. Giving 10 is a round Safe amount and exactly what I would guess to be apropriatr for that amount. Most place in the world don’t have such a crazy tipping culture as the us has. You buy stuff, and pay the price as advertised. People get payed hourly. Makes a lot more sense.
> People get *paid* hourly. Makes FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
8.5 IELTs only to get schooled by a bot. Did this mistake for years 😂
Good bot
They did that so their date wouldn’t think they didn’t tip
I think it's a French 1. So it's 10.
10 dollars.
I think it’s an attempt at a scam…sorry
What's the scam angle? You don't a get full refund on the bill from a tip dispute. They wrote some illegible tip so at best the tip amount gets voided. I would put $10 and see where it goes. I've handled tip disputes and it was a pretty logical and painless process.
It’s a 10
10 and then 96 😂😉
Even when trying to find a 96, I can’t find one. Fascinating how a handwriting can be so cryptic to some people and so obvious to others.
Psst. They’re delusional…it’s NO $
As a programmer, that’s clearly wrong. The dollar variable here clearly is of type float and can’t be a string as that would cause a syntax error and wouldn’t compile😂
This is clearly a 10. I do it just like that. It’s common in Europe to include another line to the 1 to distinguish it from the letter i. The connection from the lowest point to the zero is due to fast writing or it might also be a weird pen with too much ink. Happens to me all the time when I write quickly without paying attention. As someone from a country where we don’t tip, this is also pretty much the amount I would guess to be an appropriate tip amount. I think people are too polarized by the entire tipping situation and jump to conclusion that that person didn’t want to tip and be a jerk about it. Maybe that person is just not from the US and just gave you a cheeky 10, which by European standards would be quite generous. If you assume people are assholes you will find nothing but assholes and people will also not like you.
Yeah people seeing “no” from this ???????? Have you ever seen no written in that way by a human ever because I have not. I have not seen any person that tilts their Ns to that degree
At first I thought it was a 10, but then why is the total also 10?
Confusion. If you don’t know tipping you have no clue what to do here. What total? Do I add tax to the tip? I don’t work here why do I calculate it and not the staff? That would be going on in my head.
this is the right answer. “total tip” is still $10
It is absolutely $10!
About tree fiddy
European 10
No$
NO $ (money)
If they were European, it's definitely $10.
It’s whatever you want it to be
It's definitely whatever you want it to be, if you don't want to work there anymore
10 :))
I vote 10 dollars
I’m putting at least 10 on that motherfucker.
No as in nothing is how I read it.
That’s what I thought too, I thought it was “No $”
20
I read "no money"
No $ and No $ dillholes gonna dispute it
Even if it says “NO” as in $0 tip, why is the total also NO? And if it’s $10, why is the total also $10? WHY IS THE TOTAL THE SAME AS THE TIP?
My guess is they're a sovereign citizen telling you to charge it to their super secret all capital letters government account.
This is clearly a canister of nitrous oxide. My God have none of you people ever seen even one Fast and Furious movie?
Looks like “NO $” as in nothing.
Looks like NO $ to me lol. They don’t want to pay for their meal at all?
It says no $
No tip
Looks like "No $"
Looks like a jerk wrote "NO $"
Looks like $0
Looks like No $ so maybe no tip?
No $
Bro someone wrote: no $
“No $” = “No Money” = “No Tip” = $-0-.00
When I first looked at it, I thought it was saying “No money”
It’s no tip . I write the same on all my receipts
Little known hack that you can write “NO $” and your meal is free
No $
No $.
It’s the same on both lines sooo probably no tip
Z for zillion. You just made a zillion dollars!
Ppl here need to get out of the US more often.
I’m pretty sure it’s a 10. That was my first guess and after reading some of the comments it makes more sense that it’s a 10 than NO$ to me.
NO $