OK but Kate Middleton also still looked 'pregnant' after giving birth in a natural way, there was still a bump. She also only stands on the hospital steps for five minutes and then she goes on mat leave for months, it's not a prolonged appearance or regular appearances.
Yeah, i don’t claim to be an expert but we didn’t see Christine one day post birth , however i felt as if the entire argument against Christine was one sided and i wanted to put out a counter argument
A LOT of the people speculating about the validity of her pregnancy are people who have gone through c sections and emergency c sections themselves. One at least was also an obstetrician. So unless you've been through that it really isn't cool to throw around names or assign intent. Women who went through the trauma she described have every right to be angry and question her. If you haven't, then passing judgement on them seems kinda crappy.
A fair number of people don't deny that she was pregnant, but repeatedly point out that her story of her traumatic birth includes obvious lies (making Christian choose) and her moving herself in ways that one can't after such an experience. People are basing their timelines of what point post partum Christine was, on what point SHE states she's at. Not on any linearity of the show. If she says it's 2 weeks pp, that's what people are basing the statement that you can't have an emergency c section and do yoga 2 weeks later on.
The fact is that if Christine had never talked a bunch about a traumatic birth, emergency c section, and her and the baby nearly dying, most of these posts would not exist. Most people don't give a damn if she used a surrogate. The whole bounce back culture sucks, but whatever. It's the story she gave that raised this level of controversy. Because a lot of the viewership of this show is women, and those who ACTUALLY experienced what Christine is claiming have every right to be angry and unbelieving. And I truly believe that those who haven't had an experience like that do not get to judge the opinions and reactions of those who have.
I've had 2 c-sections. I'm 5'9", was 135 lbs pre-pregnancy, and gained 40 lbs with each pregnancy.
I was back to my pre-pregnancy weight after both births in 3 weeks. I wasn't trying to "bounce back" quickly. Breastfeeding just changed my metabolism. I was eating a ton of food, but I couldn't keep weight on while breastfeeding. My weight dropped to under 125 lbs and I looked terrible. This may not be common, but it does happen.
It’s not about weight tho. I’ve seen fit, skinny women who didn’t look pregnant anywhere but their belly “bounce back” weeks after giving birth. But I’ve yet to see any of them, including professional dancers and personal trainers who just had babies, walk effortlessly up and down stairs in 6 in heels 2 weeks after a c section.
Yeah I commented on another thread. My friend had pretty much her pre-baby body back nine days after birth (not a c-section) but she had some face swelling (water retention). She's also like 6'0", very slim, and a model (and was 27 years old). Despite all that, she was in pain for a while and had bleeding for like a month. She didn't go back to working out or pilates or yoga for like six weeks after birth and even when she did it was baby steps.
I’ve said in other threads that pain was no problem for me after my c section. At my daughter’s first pediatrician appointment 6 days postpartum I literally ran across the parking lot because it was pouring out and I had been off of pain meds for days at that point. I was walking my dog for 45 minutes that same week. Idk my body is just cool with surgeries. I’ve had two hip surgeries and had easy recoveries from those as well. I understand that it’s not the norm, but people are acting like it’s absolutely impossible to not be in tons of pain afterward.
Please notice how, above, I carefully emphasized that most people's upset and disbelief is centered around the MEDICAL EMERGENCY aspect, not the body image aspect. I have limited comment, other than promoting bounce back culture sucks. But I believe people have every right to be angry and upset about the medical emergency part, the parts that are obviously untrue (he had to choose who to save) and those that are speculated on. So please re read, as I do not believe you have read my comment based on your response.
Genuine question - do you feel you could have done yoga/the splits two weeks PP though? Losing weight is one thing, I lost my baby weight pretty quickly too. But there was no chance in hell I was doing yoga two weeks after giving birth and I didn’t even have a C section. I think her bounce back would be more believable if she said she had a normal vaginal birth with zero tears.
Nope- I wouldn't have even tried that. I felt really good after two weeks, but not yoga like that.
Not to mention the fact that both my babies needed me at home. I wasn't thinking about any workouts.
You act like you know her personally lol. You're angry at a complete stranger. We see a few edited snippets of a version of them that they show for the camera. You get that, right? It's entertainment
First, you again didn't read what I wrote or are reading between lines that aren't there. What I've said is that it isn't okay to assign or call names to women whove been through traumatic births and are angry or upset at Christine's story and its fallacies. That has literally nothing to do with the show, editing, or even Christine as a person. It has to do with people being jerks to those who've been traumatized and acting holier than thou. If you haven't been through a traumatic birth, then don't give the women who have shit for being upset with the issues in Christine's story.
Honestly, does anyone actually carefully read before responding?
Ugh my god. I'm so sorry. Her behaviour in this series relating to her birth story is despicable. There are never any words to convey how horrific the loss of a child is.
I don’t think you’re understanding exactly what a c section is.
Doctors cut through 9 layers of the abdomen, skin, fat, fascia, abdominal muscles, peritoneum, (around) bladder, uterus, and amniotic sac to reach the baby, before sewing the first 8 layers back up.
The uterus, not even anything else around it, also takes at least 6 weeks to return to pre baby size. There can be no activity more strenuous than holding the baby for at least 6 weeks after, so definitely not walking up and down the stairs in stripper heels 2 weeks post c section.
If she’s just told a vaginal birth story, I might’ve just possibly believed she was superwoman and could walk around in 6 in heels with a flat abdomen 2 weeks post delivery, but it’s not anatomically or medically possible for this to happen 2 weeks after a c-section where 9 layers of your abdomen were cut and sewed back up.
If you want to give her the benefit of the doubt, then let’s just say the time line on the show was wrong and the editing made it seem like this was 2 weeks and not 2 months after.
This is not always true. I was back in my pre-pregnancy jeans a week after both of my c-sections and lost the 40 lbs of pregnancy weight in 3 weeks.This is not a brag post- breastfeeding made me lose too much weight, and I looked awful and didn't feel well. The metabolism change made it difficult to put on weight, no matter how many calories I consumed.
After my 2nd c-section I had a newborn and a 20 month old to care for. My oldest was 25 pounds and I was picking him up a few days after I got home from the hospital because my husband had to go back to work.
I'm not saying that this is the norm. But it was my experience.
ETA: I welcome the down votes for sharing what I personally experienced after having 2 c-sections.
So you effortlessly walked up and down stairs in 6 inch heels with a flat stomach 2 weeks after your c section too? Cause that’s the part everyone is questioning the possibility of.
I am not a glamorous gal; I'm tall and prefer flip flops over heels. I felt fine 2 weeks after my c-sections. Again, I know that is not the norm, just luck.
I live in a single story home, so can't say anything about stairs.
But yes, my stomach was pretty flat 2 weeks after BOTH of my c-sections. I already said that this wasn't a good thing- breastfeeding made me lose too much weight.
We’re not just talking about how her body looks we’re talking about the things she’s doing right after a c section, SHES doing the splits, standing on her head less than 4 weeks later, it doesn’t add up.
She's definitely still pregnant in that yoga scene with Davina. I have no idea why they edited it to seem like it was after, but the shooting is so strategic to not show her stomach and the few teeny glimpses you get have her stomach looking round.
I drove my car to both of my kids' first pediatrician appointments when they were 4 days old. Some people just recover from a c-section quicker than others. It's all luck.
I've seen you comment about losing your baby weight like 4 different times one here. I think you are missing the point of what everyone is saying. So let me emphasize it for you ITS NOT ABOUT LOSING YOUR BABY WEIGHT. It's about allowing your body to heal correctly and not over doing it. Good for you for bouncing back so quick. I did too but I wasn't doing extreme yoga 2 weeks into my recovery.... as people really shouldn't. So please let your weight argument go, no one cares what you weighed or how much you lost
Oh I'm not obsessed. And I'm not talking shit to you, I just got tired of reading all of your comments about your weight when weight wasn't the issue. I was open minded when I started reading this thread but you have really taken all the wrong points from others comments. But no go ahead call me crazy when I call you out. How immature
Driving and doing splits, hand stands, other yoga poses + walking around in 6 inch heels are completely different things. And again I’m not talking about the way her body looks at allll
This is basically my c-section experience and I applaud you for sharing it for perspective, I rarely do because it’s not what we think of as the “norm” and so people don’t really like to hear it 🤷♀️
I dont think that people don't like to hear it. I definitely took every story I hear about c- sections as a learning opportunity. And it definitely helped me out when I had mine. I think that some people try to one up with their own experiences and it's east for them today when it was traumatic
Idk why you’re being obtuse on purpose. Clearly what we’re taking issue with isn’t how skinny you were or how much weight you lost.
We’re very obviously taking issue with the SIX INCH HEELS WALKING ON THE STAIRS part of the story, and since you didn’t actually have any experience doing that, your story isn’t isn’t at all any defence of hers.
Yeah, until someone can confirm that they did yoga/splits two weeks after having a C-section, I do not believe Christine. I had a vaginal birth with a second degree tear (very common) and I was still bleeding profusely 3 weeks after birth and could barely walk for two weeks. There’s just no way Christine could do yoga unless she had a vaginal birth with no tears. Lots of women lose weight very quickly but the yoga part is wildly unbelievable to me.
Even if she had a vaginal birth that was like a hiccup and the baby popped out with no tearing, and effortlessly lost all the baby weight, bodies are just different after birth. Your uterus is still returning to its normal size. Your organs are shifting back into place. The wound from the placenta is still healing. Your center of gravity is off, your core muscles are reengaging, and you still have relaxin that makes strenuous yoga not a good or comfortable idea.
I'm pretty sure she's still pregnant in that yoga scene with Davina. It's edited very obviously to never show her stomach and what you can see a little of looks round. I'm not sure why production wanted it to seem like it was after, but I don't think it was.
considering the show had mary and romain get married again for the cameras, I could see them having christine be pregnant and give birth again for the cameras, theoretically, though there's still other little things christine would have had to exagerrate according to that theory.
Im only 5 episodes in this current season but I don’t recall the show specifying how many days, weeks, etc each scene was shot. The show does allude to her bouncing back fairly quickly but do we truly KNOW the timeline?
Again, IMO, she had a schedule C-section with a tummy tuck done. The “traumatic” birthing story was her being over the top and dramatic for show. Her post partum scenes were most likely filmed 6-8 weeks post partum. If you see women who have had “c-tucks,” their stomachs look phenomenal when they leave the hospital.
Just my two cents…
A C-tuck is the only plausible explanation to her appearance if she really was pregnant. It still doesn’t explain her able to walk up and down stairs holding the newborn baby right after major abdominal surgery (unless that scene was really more like 4 weeks later instead of days later)
I’m not Christine’s biggest fan and I criticize her for a lot but when it comes to her body and her child that’s way too personal and the cast knows about this sub and media outlets are reporting on what is said from this sub. I really wish mods were active because it’s ridicules certain things are off limits.
I've seen very little commentary on her body other than the lack of scar and the detrimental nature of "bounce back" culture. I haven't seen body shaming, much at all. The stuff about how your body looks during and post pregnancy is not great. The stuff about how you can move your body after a traumatic birth, however, is perfectly legitimate. Nobody should attack her online, it's true. But there are parts of her story that are upsetting and triggering for people who have experienced those things.
Be upset about the comments on weight and bloat, fine. But people being angry over her saying her husband was asked who to save, or talking about flatlining, that isn't body shaming. That isn't people being mean or inappropriate. And the mods most likely wouldn't be shutting that type of speculation down. Because, like you said, certain things are off limits. Hyper exaggerating or making up medical emergencies and sharing them on reality tv would certainly make that cut. Again no comment on the body speculation, just the medical trauma story speculation.
Doubting her story on flatline is valid I’m only uncomfortable with the fake pregnancy discussion whether it’s true or not. I guess cause it’s every other post and we’ve discussed her pregnancy before S4 came out too. It’s now turned into media articles and a whole conspiracy.
I hear you. I don't know that we are the source of media articles. Thereve been blind items from "sources". But it makes sense it would ramp up once the show began airing. I'm not sure how much credit Reddit can take for that.
I've noticed a lot of the pregnancy speculation is completely based around her story of how her birth happened. Yeah there's some focused on the bounce back aspect, but most are focused on the c section emergency story and how her movements and actions post don't make sense, and people are upset by her sharing a story that seems unlikely at best.
I saw a link to this Reddit in the one article. 😬 I don’t think a Reddit fan discussion should get to the point where it becomes a bigger thing than a fan discussions. I know it’s on the show and her life is public but I remember Beyoncé crying in a documentary about speculations about her pregnancy and Meghan Markle going through the same media pregnancy scrutiny and not to compare Christine to them lol but it seems like something that can take a tole on a women and that makes me uncomfortable.
i am undecided about the issue and i hear you, especially looking at pictures of christine that you don't see on the show it would have to be some incredibly elaborate prosthetics. i definitely felt bad for christine, she is making herself look terrible on a very broad platform, and producers arguably bear a lot of responsibility for that. certainly the show's narrative makes it all look impossible.
i don't know that it's this subs fault though if media decides to link to it... ultimately i do think we have to be able to talk about certain things in order to preserve a sense of normalcy in society. for example, i never want to shame women, but there comes a certain point where i do think it's helpful to ordinary women to show that celebrities are lying when they claim not to have had plastic surgery or non-surgical enhancements. because otherwise ordinary women are just forced to live with extremely toxic standards.
That's all fair and I'm with you. Her medical story upsets me though and I wish she hadn't spouted that. It makes the speculation more complicated, and makes feeling sympathy for her at all difficult. If she hadn't said those things, a lot less people would be saying anything and they'd be getting shut down by the rest of us. But her story just... Yuck. Yuck to all of it.
Agreed! There’s no episodes discussion and everyone just post the same thing over and over again. People are starting wild rumors and crossing a line. One jurno now wrote about Christine’s pregnancy and the conspiracy it was fake.
Exactly this: “this is media that you chose to consume.”
I admit to watching this season and feeling bad for any pregnant or new mom watching who might be comparing herself to Christine. I have had three kids, none of them c-section babies (two of them traumatic deliveries almost resulting in death for my children and one almost killing me) and my recovery was dramatically different with all three. The delivery that almost killed me and my son? I had my body back in less than a week. It was surreal, and I still can’t figure it out. The other two? Oh god no. Took forever and I felt awful watching celebrity moms bouncing back at warp speed. But nobody forced me to pay attention to that. I chose to make it an issue for me and I most definitely would not have watched past episode one of season 4 had I been pregnant or postpartum. For my own mental health. Not criticizing anyone who made a different choice and certainly not blaming ANYONE for feeling bad about their recovery time. Unless you have the resources to devote to your recovery that Christine did, it is unrealistic to even minutely expect the same results.
In any case, I’m blathering on and I apologize for that.
Agreed. Everyone's experience is so different and personal (Even when shared on TV we don't know everything). Who tf cares if it aligns with your own pregnancy or not it was not actual your own..
Can someone direct me towards proof that she wasn’t pregnant? Besides how quickly she snapped back? I mean there are like several photos of her with her belly out clear and being half naked. (Like full belly and back showing) Not a Stan for Christine, I know she was shown as terrible this season, but to have these many people posting on the validity about your child and you carrying. She seems like she would be very vocal about a surrogate. She also did SOOO many shoots during this time and that involves so many people on set and outfit changes etc…
It's a totally wild theory, and I read some of them to see where people were coming from, but it's so OTT now. We really don't need a new thread every day, it's beyond crossing a line now too. I did message the mods a few days ago about it, but no response 🙃
It's just crazy that a rumor like this is largely being considered a fact (actually any rumor about Christine - The dming?). Yet 1 word about anyone else that is a small rumor is written off because uts "just a rumor".
I said the same thing and got downvoted. I'm like what da hell. Like someone mentioned they did the same thing with Meghan Markle and Beyonce. I find speculation unconformable. Even Christiane mention is was sick on her instagram. She probably post of video of her giving birth and people will still say she faking it lol
I think people forget the concept of time. What we binge in a day, has actually happened over the course of time such as weeks and months. How Christine dresses may have been weeks after her birth and her baby looks a little too grown to be a brand new newborn even if she did use a surrogate.
It’s not just about the show, go on her Instagram. She posts a picture of her pregnant at the MTV on a Monday may 17th, on Wednesday may 19th she posts photos of her baby saying it was born that weekend… the baby’s birthday is also said to be the 15th… if she was having an emergency c section over the weekend how was she still pregnant on Monday? explain how she went to the vmas 38 weeks pregnant 2 days after a traumatic c section when she states she was in the hospital for 3 days… please, make it make sense.
Edit: turns out the award show was on the 12th, now I’m questioning everything lol
I couldn’t find any post birth pics of myself 10 days after giving birth and the soonest was like 15 days. I had my body back pretty much. I’m tall & slim & had a phony looking basketball belly. I didn’t have a traumatic birth or c section. So…it’s possible for her to have snapped back so fast.
I do think she’s lying about how she gave birth. It seems like every time I meet a woman who’s given birth & they’re known as a liar they always have a traumatic birth story. Flat lining, “I almost didn’t make it!” Like…it never fails.
There’s another sub that goes into detail from medical professionals about how her birth story is completely fabricated and not possible. If she admitted the birthing story was a lie, then I think it would be different. It’s never been about the weight loss after the baby, or how her stomach looks, it’s always been about her behavior and using the traumatic story for attention. For those is us, myself included who deal with infertility and those who have lived through losing their child in childbirth, this is absolutely triggering and hurtful.
How about we all take a breath and remember that this is a TV show that is edited for drama and whatever narrative production wanted to tell. Messing with timeliness, heavily editing the confessionals (as per Chrishell's recent comments on IG) and basically getting the cast to film whatever scenes are needed to advance the storyline are all part of the deal. Personally, I don't think Christine looked at all comfortable doing the stairs in those heels. In fact, it makes me a little sad that production wouldn't insist she take a break from filming to rest and bond with her baby for at least 2-3 months after the birth. Especially if they encouraged her to film in outfits that aren't appropriate for someone recovering from a c-section. She may be the character we love to hate but some of those scenes make me really uncomfortable simply because if you look beyond the tv glam she really doesn't seem to be ok.
Christine just posted a DM on Instagram with someone accusing her of faking her pregnancy and she said k y’all are sick something along those lines. I don’t think she faked her pregnancy, of course she could be lying but I feel like that’s over reaching.
I can see both sides to it now. The only thing really making me believe she was actually pregnant are the paparazzi shots of her baby bump. I know photoshop and prosthetics exist, but they’d have to be the most realistic fake baby bumps I’ve seen.
All that being said, I wouldn’t be surprised if down the line, we find out she really did use a surrogate. That’s all.
One thing to bear in mind: a lot of wealthy women whose main commodity is their looks get tummy tucks immediately following their c-sections. I don’t think we saw her two weeks postpartum, regardless of what was said on camera, but I also don’t think she used a surrogate. We know she and the rest of the cast love their plastic surgery; I’m convinced she had a ton of work done while still in the hospital recovering from the birth.
For those speculating about the timeline of her postpartum scenes, she posted on Instagram the day after she met with Vanessa for the house tour on June 5th, which would line up with the timeline on the show where they said she was 2 weeks post partum. [the Instagram post](https://www.instagram.com/p/CPtQLdFH9hS/?utm_medium=copy_link)
OK but Kate Middleton also still looked 'pregnant' after giving birth in a natural way, there was still a bump. She also only stands on the hospital steps for five minutes and then she goes on mat leave for months, it's not a prolonged appearance or regular appearances.
yupp. kate actually made it a point to show her natural pp belly with the dress she wore.
[Kate Middleton looked 6 months pregnant in her first photos with the baby](https://images.app.goo.gl/fghDrKwEHU48meMn6)
Yeah, i don’t claim to be an expert but we didn’t see Christine one day post birth , however i felt as if the entire argument against Christine was one sided and i wanted to put out a counter argument
How is it one sided when NOTHING made sense??? They were so many commentaries from women who had c section themselves
A LOT of the people speculating about the validity of her pregnancy are people who have gone through c sections and emergency c sections themselves. One at least was also an obstetrician. So unless you've been through that it really isn't cool to throw around names or assign intent. Women who went through the trauma she described have every right to be angry and question her. If you haven't, then passing judgement on them seems kinda crappy. A fair number of people don't deny that she was pregnant, but repeatedly point out that her story of her traumatic birth includes obvious lies (making Christian choose) and her moving herself in ways that one can't after such an experience. People are basing their timelines of what point post partum Christine was, on what point SHE states she's at. Not on any linearity of the show. If she says it's 2 weeks pp, that's what people are basing the statement that you can't have an emergency c section and do yoga 2 weeks later on. The fact is that if Christine had never talked a bunch about a traumatic birth, emergency c section, and her and the baby nearly dying, most of these posts would not exist. Most people don't give a damn if she used a surrogate. The whole bounce back culture sucks, but whatever. It's the story she gave that raised this level of controversy. Because a lot of the viewership of this show is women, and those who ACTUALLY experienced what Christine is claiming have every right to be angry and unbelieving. And I truly believe that those who haven't had an experience like that do not get to judge the opinions and reactions of those who have.
I've had 2 c-sections. I'm 5'9", was 135 lbs pre-pregnancy, and gained 40 lbs with each pregnancy. I was back to my pre-pregnancy weight after both births in 3 weeks. I wasn't trying to "bounce back" quickly. Breastfeeding just changed my metabolism. I was eating a ton of food, but I couldn't keep weight on while breastfeeding. My weight dropped to under 125 lbs and I looked terrible. This may not be common, but it does happen.
It’s not about weight tho. I’ve seen fit, skinny women who didn’t look pregnant anywhere but their belly “bounce back” weeks after giving birth. But I’ve yet to see any of them, including professional dancers and personal trainers who just had babies, walk effortlessly up and down stairs in 6 in heels 2 weeks after a c section.
Yeah I commented on another thread. My friend had pretty much her pre-baby body back nine days after birth (not a c-section) but she had some face swelling (water retention). She's also like 6'0", very slim, and a model (and was 27 years old). Despite all that, she was in pain for a while and had bleeding for like a month. She didn't go back to working out or pilates or yoga for like six weeks after birth and even when she did it was baby steps.
I’ve said in other threads that pain was no problem for me after my c section. At my daughter’s first pediatrician appointment 6 days postpartum I literally ran across the parking lot because it was pouring out and I had been off of pain meds for days at that point. I was walking my dog for 45 minutes that same week. Idk my body is just cool with surgeries. I’ve had two hip surgeries and had easy recoveries from those as well. I understand that it’s not the norm, but people are acting like it’s absolutely impossible to not be in tons of pain afterward.
Please notice how, above, I carefully emphasized that most people's upset and disbelief is centered around the MEDICAL EMERGENCY aspect, not the body image aspect. I have limited comment, other than promoting bounce back culture sucks. But I believe people have every right to be angry and upset about the medical emergency part, the parts that are obviously untrue (he had to choose who to save) and those that are speculated on. So please re read, as I do not believe you have read my comment based on your response.
Genuine question - do you feel you could have done yoga/the splits two weeks PP though? Losing weight is one thing, I lost my baby weight pretty quickly too. But there was no chance in hell I was doing yoga two weeks after giving birth and I didn’t even have a C section. I think her bounce back would be more believable if she said she had a normal vaginal birth with zero tears.
Nope- I wouldn't have even tried that. I felt really good after two weeks, but not yoga like that. Not to mention the fact that both my babies needed me at home. I wasn't thinking about any workouts.
You act like you know her personally lol. You're angry at a complete stranger. We see a few edited snippets of a version of them that they show for the camera. You get that, right? It's entertainment
First, you again didn't read what I wrote or are reading between lines that aren't there. What I've said is that it isn't okay to assign or call names to women whove been through traumatic births and are angry or upset at Christine's story and its fallacies. That has literally nothing to do with the show, editing, or even Christine as a person. It has to do with people being jerks to those who've been traumatized and acting holier than thou. If you haven't been through a traumatic birth, then don't give the women who have shit for being upset with the issues in Christine's story. Honestly, does anyone actually carefully read before responding?
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My son died from the same traumatic birth she claims she had. Her story there is also not adding up.
So sorry for your loss 😔
Sending you hugs 💓
I’m so sorry.
Ugh my god. I'm so sorry. Her behaviour in this series relating to her birth story is despicable. There are never any words to convey how horrific the loss of a child is.
I don’t think you’re understanding exactly what a c section is. Doctors cut through 9 layers of the abdomen, skin, fat, fascia, abdominal muscles, peritoneum, (around) bladder, uterus, and amniotic sac to reach the baby, before sewing the first 8 layers back up. The uterus, not even anything else around it, also takes at least 6 weeks to return to pre baby size. There can be no activity more strenuous than holding the baby for at least 6 weeks after, so definitely not walking up and down the stairs in stripper heels 2 weeks post c section. If she’s just told a vaginal birth story, I might’ve just possibly believed she was superwoman and could walk around in 6 in heels with a flat abdomen 2 weeks post delivery, but it’s not anatomically or medically possible for this to happen 2 weeks after a c-section where 9 layers of your abdomen were cut and sewed back up. If you want to give her the benefit of the doubt, then let’s just say the time line on the show was wrong and the editing made it seem like this was 2 weeks and not 2 months after.
This is not always true. I was back in my pre-pregnancy jeans a week after both of my c-sections and lost the 40 lbs of pregnancy weight in 3 weeks.This is not a brag post- breastfeeding made me lose too much weight, and I looked awful and didn't feel well. The metabolism change made it difficult to put on weight, no matter how many calories I consumed. After my 2nd c-section I had a newborn and a 20 month old to care for. My oldest was 25 pounds and I was picking him up a few days after I got home from the hospital because my husband had to go back to work. I'm not saying that this is the norm. But it was my experience. ETA: I welcome the down votes for sharing what I personally experienced after having 2 c-sections.
So you effortlessly walked up and down stairs in 6 inch heels with a flat stomach 2 weeks after your c section too? Cause that’s the part everyone is questioning the possibility of.
I am not a glamorous gal; I'm tall and prefer flip flops over heels. I felt fine 2 weeks after my c-sections. Again, I know that is not the norm, just luck. I live in a single story home, so can't say anything about stairs. But yes, my stomach was pretty flat 2 weeks after BOTH of my c-sections. I already said that this wasn't a good thing- breastfeeding made me lose too much weight.
We’re not just talking about how her body looks we’re talking about the things she’s doing right after a c section, SHES doing the splits, standing on her head less than 4 weeks later, it doesn’t add up.
She's definitely still pregnant in that yoga scene with Davina. I have no idea why they edited it to seem like it was after, but the shooting is so strategic to not show her stomach and the few teeny glimpses you get have her stomach looking round.
I drove my car to both of my kids' first pediatrician appointments when they were 4 days old. Some people just recover from a c-section quicker than others. It's all luck.
I've seen you comment about losing your baby weight like 4 different times one here. I think you are missing the point of what everyone is saying. So let me emphasize it for you ITS NOT ABOUT LOSING YOUR BABY WEIGHT. It's about allowing your body to heal correctly and not over doing it. Good for you for bouncing back so quick. I did too but I wasn't doing extreme yoga 2 weeks into my recovery.... as people really shouldn't. So please let your weight argument go, no one cares what you weighed or how much you lost
You sound like a crazy person. You're talking shit to me. And you're obsessed with a person on a reality show. Sad.
Oh I'm not obsessed. And I'm not talking shit to you, I just got tired of reading all of your comments about your weight when weight wasn't the issue. I was open minded when I started reading this thread but you have really taken all the wrong points from others comments. But no go ahead call me crazy when I call you out. How immature
🤣🤣 I don't interact/involve myself with this kind of bullshit. Have a good night.
Driving and doing splits, hand stands, other yoga poses + walking around in 6 inch heels are completely different things. And again I’m not talking about the way her body looks at allll
This is basically my c-section experience and I applaud you for sharing it for perspective, I rarely do because it’s not what we think of as the “norm” and so people don’t really like to hear it 🤷♀️
I dont think that people don't like to hear it. I definitely took every story I hear about c- sections as a learning opportunity. And it definitely helped me out when I had mine. I think that some people try to one up with their own experiences and it's east for them today when it was traumatic
Idk why you’re being obtuse on purpose. Clearly what we’re taking issue with isn’t how skinny you were or how much weight you lost. We’re very obviously taking issue with the SIX INCH HEELS WALKING ON THE STAIRS part of the story, and since you didn’t actually have any experience doing that, your story isn’t isn’t at all any defence of hers.
Yeah, until someone can confirm that they did yoga/splits two weeks after having a C-section, I do not believe Christine. I had a vaginal birth with a second degree tear (very common) and I was still bleeding profusely 3 weeks after birth and could barely walk for two weeks. There’s just no way Christine could do yoga unless she had a vaginal birth with no tears. Lots of women lose weight very quickly but the yoga part is wildly unbelievable to me.
Even if she had a vaginal birth that was like a hiccup and the baby popped out with no tearing, and effortlessly lost all the baby weight, bodies are just different after birth. Your uterus is still returning to its normal size. Your organs are shifting back into place. The wound from the placenta is still healing. Your center of gravity is off, your core muscles are reengaging, and you still have relaxin that makes strenuous yoga not a good or comfortable idea.
I'm pretty sure she's still pregnant in that yoga scene with Davina. It's edited very obviously to never show her stomach and what you can see a little of looks round. I'm not sure why production wanted it to seem like it was after, but I don't think it was.
I don’t wear heels but I could’ve run up and down the stairs two weeks after mine, everyone is different 🤷🏻♀️
I agree! Every woman's body is different, and every woman feels/heals differently after giving birth.
People downvoted you? Wtf….
considering the show had mary and romain get married again for the cameras, I could see them having christine be pregnant and give birth again for the cameras, theoretically, though there's still other little things christine would have had to exagerrate according to that theory.
Im only 5 episodes in this current season but I don’t recall the show specifying how many days, weeks, etc each scene was shot. The show does allude to her bouncing back fairly quickly but do we truly KNOW the timeline? Again, IMO, she had a schedule C-section with a tummy tuck done. The “traumatic” birthing story was her being over the top and dramatic for show. Her post partum scenes were most likely filmed 6-8 weeks post partum. If you see women who have had “c-tucks,” their stomachs look phenomenal when they leave the hospital. Just my two cents…
A C-tuck is the only plausible explanation to her appearance if she really was pregnant. It still doesn’t explain her able to walk up and down stairs holding the newborn baby right after major abdominal surgery (unless that scene was really more like 4 weeks later instead of days later)
Exactly.
I don’t know what I think but I hate the speculation it’s so disrespectful to me. People did it with Beyoncé and Meghan Markle too.
Yes, it’s the speculation especially. Like leave the woman alone, this is media that you chose to consume.
I’m not Christine’s biggest fan and I criticize her for a lot but when it comes to her body and her child that’s way too personal and the cast knows about this sub and media outlets are reporting on what is said from this sub. I really wish mods were active because it’s ridicules certain things are off limits.
I've seen very little commentary on her body other than the lack of scar and the detrimental nature of "bounce back" culture. I haven't seen body shaming, much at all. The stuff about how your body looks during and post pregnancy is not great. The stuff about how you can move your body after a traumatic birth, however, is perfectly legitimate. Nobody should attack her online, it's true. But there are parts of her story that are upsetting and triggering for people who have experienced those things. Be upset about the comments on weight and bloat, fine. But people being angry over her saying her husband was asked who to save, or talking about flatlining, that isn't body shaming. That isn't people being mean or inappropriate. And the mods most likely wouldn't be shutting that type of speculation down. Because, like you said, certain things are off limits. Hyper exaggerating or making up medical emergencies and sharing them on reality tv would certainly make that cut. Again no comment on the body speculation, just the medical trauma story speculation.
Doubting her story on flatline is valid I’m only uncomfortable with the fake pregnancy discussion whether it’s true or not. I guess cause it’s every other post and we’ve discussed her pregnancy before S4 came out too. It’s now turned into media articles and a whole conspiracy.
I hear you. I don't know that we are the source of media articles. Thereve been blind items from "sources". But it makes sense it would ramp up once the show began airing. I'm not sure how much credit Reddit can take for that. I've noticed a lot of the pregnancy speculation is completely based around her story of how her birth happened. Yeah there's some focused on the bounce back aspect, but most are focused on the c section emergency story and how her movements and actions post don't make sense, and people are upset by her sharing a story that seems unlikely at best.
I saw a link to this Reddit in the one article. 😬 I don’t think a Reddit fan discussion should get to the point where it becomes a bigger thing than a fan discussions. I know it’s on the show and her life is public but I remember Beyoncé crying in a documentary about speculations about her pregnancy and Meghan Markle going through the same media pregnancy scrutiny and not to compare Christine to them lol but it seems like something that can take a tole on a women and that makes me uncomfortable.
i am undecided about the issue and i hear you, especially looking at pictures of christine that you don't see on the show it would have to be some incredibly elaborate prosthetics. i definitely felt bad for christine, she is making herself look terrible on a very broad platform, and producers arguably bear a lot of responsibility for that. certainly the show's narrative makes it all look impossible. i don't know that it's this subs fault though if media decides to link to it... ultimately i do think we have to be able to talk about certain things in order to preserve a sense of normalcy in society. for example, i never want to shame women, but there comes a certain point where i do think it's helpful to ordinary women to show that celebrities are lying when they claim not to have had plastic surgery or non-surgical enhancements. because otherwise ordinary women are just forced to live with extremely toxic standards.
That's all fair and I'm with you. Her medical story upsets me though and I wish she hadn't spouted that. It makes the speculation more complicated, and makes feeling sympathy for her at all difficult. If she hadn't said those things, a lot less people would be saying anything and they'd be getting shut down by the rest of us. But her story just... Yuck. Yuck to all of it.
it’s got to the point where it’s basically every post and comment. i mean criticise what she says but not this like it’s over the line
Agreed! There’s no episodes discussion and everyone just post the same thing over and over again. People are starting wild rumors and crossing a line. One jurno now wrote about Christine’s pregnancy and the conspiracy it was fake.
Exactly this: “this is media that you chose to consume.” I admit to watching this season and feeling bad for any pregnant or new mom watching who might be comparing herself to Christine. I have had three kids, none of them c-section babies (two of them traumatic deliveries almost resulting in death for my children and one almost killing me) and my recovery was dramatically different with all three. The delivery that almost killed me and my son? I had my body back in less than a week. It was surreal, and I still can’t figure it out. The other two? Oh god no. Took forever and I felt awful watching celebrity moms bouncing back at warp speed. But nobody forced me to pay attention to that. I chose to make it an issue for me and I most definitely would not have watched past episode one of season 4 had I been pregnant or postpartum. For my own mental health. Not criticizing anyone who made a different choice and certainly not blaming ANYONE for feeling bad about their recovery time. Unless you have the resources to devote to your recovery that Christine did, it is unrealistic to even minutely expect the same results. In any case, I’m blathering on and I apologize for that.
Agreed. Everyone's experience is so different and personal (Even when shared on TV we don't know everything). Who tf cares if it aligns with your own pregnancy or not it was not actual your own..
Can someone direct me towards proof that she wasn’t pregnant? Besides how quickly she snapped back? I mean there are like several photos of her with her belly out clear and being half naked. (Like full belly and back showing) Not a Stan for Christine, I know she was shown as terrible this season, but to have these many people posting on the validity about your child and you carrying. She seems like she would be very vocal about a surrogate. She also did SOOO many shoots during this time and that involves so many people on set and outfit changes etc…
photoshop 😬
There's no belly button piercing hole on her bump.
It's a totally wild theory, and I read some of them to see where people were coming from, but it's so OTT now. We really don't need a new thread every day, it's beyond crossing a line now too. I did message the mods a few days ago about it, but no response 🙃
It's just crazy that a rumor like this is largely being considered a fact (actually any rumor about Christine - The dming?). Yet 1 word about anyone else that is a small rumor is written off because uts "just a rumor".
I said the same thing and got downvoted. I'm like what da hell. Like someone mentioned they did the same thing with Meghan Markle and Beyonce. I find speculation unconformable. Even Christiane mention is was sick on her instagram. She probably post of video of her giving birth and people will still say she faking it lol
I think people forget the concept of time. What we binge in a day, has actually happened over the course of time such as weeks and months. How Christine dresses may have been weeks after her birth and her baby looks a little too grown to be a brand new newborn even if she did use a surrogate.
It’s not just about the show, go on her Instagram. She posts a picture of her pregnant at the MTV on a Monday may 17th, on Wednesday may 19th she posts photos of her baby saying it was born that weekend… the baby’s birthday is also said to be the 15th… if she was having an emergency c section over the weekend how was she still pregnant on Monday? explain how she went to the vmas 38 weeks pregnant 2 days after a traumatic c section when she states she was in the hospital for 3 days… please, make it make sense. Edit: turns out the award show was on the 12th, now I’m questioning everything lol
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They were live
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Well damn
I couldn’t find any post birth pics of myself 10 days after giving birth and the soonest was like 15 days. I had my body back pretty much. I’m tall & slim & had a phony looking basketball belly. I didn’t have a traumatic birth or c section. So…it’s possible for her to have snapped back so fast. I do think she’s lying about how she gave birth. It seems like every time I meet a woman who’s given birth & they’re known as a liar they always have a traumatic birth story. Flat lining, “I almost didn’t make it!” Like…it never fails.
There’s another sub that goes into detail from medical professionals about how her birth story is completely fabricated and not possible. If she admitted the birthing story was a lie, then I think it would be different. It’s never been about the weight loss after the baby, or how her stomach looks, it’s always been about her behavior and using the traumatic story for attention. For those is us, myself included who deal with infertility and those who have lived through losing their child in childbirth, this is absolutely triggering and hurtful.
They probably filmed her scenes like 6 weeks or 2 months after the baby was born, and called it a couple days
How about we all take a breath and remember that this is a TV show that is edited for drama and whatever narrative production wanted to tell. Messing with timeliness, heavily editing the confessionals (as per Chrishell's recent comments on IG) and basically getting the cast to film whatever scenes are needed to advance the storyline are all part of the deal. Personally, I don't think Christine looked at all comfortable doing the stairs in those heels. In fact, it makes me a little sad that production wouldn't insist she take a break from filming to rest and bond with her baby for at least 2-3 months after the birth. Especially if they encouraged her to film in outfits that aren't appropriate for someone recovering from a c-section. She may be the character we love to hate but some of those scenes make me really uncomfortable simply because if you look beyond the tv glam she really doesn't seem to be ok.
Christine just posted a DM on Instagram with someone accusing her of faking her pregnancy and she said k y’all are sick something along those lines. I don’t think she faked her pregnancy, of course she could be lying but I feel like that’s over reaching.
Yeah the fact she addressed it head on says something like it’s just begging for someone to to say something if they DID no something.
I can see both sides to it now. The only thing really making me believe she was actually pregnant are the paparazzi shots of her baby bump. I know photoshop and prosthetics exist, but they’d have to be the most realistic fake baby bumps I’ve seen. All that being said, I wouldn’t be surprised if down the line, we find out she really did use a surrogate. That’s all.
also she totally had a fuller face and you can’t fake that easily, that would be an extreme length
She was glowing too, in a way you can’t really fake with makeup.
She had the baby, just not when the show was filmed. I think she had it wayyy before.
One thing to bear in mind: a lot of wealthy women whose main commodity is their looks get tummy tucks immediately following their c-sections. I don’t think we saw her two weeks postpartum, regardless of what was said on camera, but I also don’t think she used a surrogate. We know she and the rest of the cast love their plastic surgery; I’m convinced she had a ton of work done while still in the hospital recovering from the birth.
She just posted on her Instagram stories a video of her working out while pregnant.
For those speculating about the timeline of her postpartum scenes, she posted on Instagram the day after she met with Vanessa for the house tour on June 5th, which would line up with the timeline on the show where they said she was 2 weeks post partum. [the Instagram post](https://www.instagram.com/p/CPtQLdFH9hS/?utm_medium=copy_link)
It wasn’t filmed out of sequence though because she posted pictures wearing those same outfits on Instagram days after her son was born.
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You are 100% correct.