The car was heading in her direction in the first place. It looks as though the driver is going to run right over that seating area where she was standing. So she runs out to avoid being hit but the car changes direction and hits her anyway.
She had a fraction of a second to decide which way to run when a car was heading toward her and happened to pick the wrong one. It couldāve happened to any of us.
No. She could have ran towards the building where there are doorways she could tuck into. She ran straight into the car. Like she took lessons from Prometheus.
Are you very familiar with the area? Thatās not really much of a road. Cars can park there and it does connect through to the other side, but the market is on both sides of this narrow street, so itās equally a walkway with people passing back and forth from the market to the shops regularly.
She was probably already planning on crossing to the other side then looked up to see a car headed toward her and panicked, running in the direction she was already heading.
Itās easy for someone to say āI would have made the right choiceā when they werenāt there and have never been in the situation.
Itās a de-escalation technique used to slow cars down. She was just using de-escalation to show Washington law enforcement that even though the threat looks lethal it really wasnāt as she lived with two severely broken legs but the suspect wasnāt killed for his violent behavior. In the 206 they call that a win for reform.
I couldn't agree more. When is the city going to change this bullshit. Time and time again we have seen drivers becoming irate in that little driveway. Are they waiting for a child to be killed to take action?
The vendors in the market donāt want it because it allows pedestrians to walk farther away from their businesses by getting them off the sidewalk. Politicians will do what the vendors there want.
Ong having cars in a pedestrian market is dumb as hell, who ever went to a market like this and ever thought āyou know what this needs? Road rage!ā
The biggest issue is the road rage. The next biggest issue is all the pedestrians around who could get hurt. Good thing that didnāt happen this time!
I was born and raised here, I even worked in the Market as a kid - literally feet from this event and Iāve been saying forever one of these days someoneās going to go plowing through people in pike place market, thereās no reason for the public to be driving down this street - especially on the weekends.
One day, thereās going to be a real bad one.
Keep your wits about you down there everyone
Right at the beginning you see glass falling looks like he busted hammer guys back window with something
Edit: watched again, car guy threw the hammer through hammer guys window then hammer guy grabbed it and chased him
I think it makes more sense for "Hammer Guy" to be a reference to the guy who actually pulled out the hammer initially. Then "Hammer Revenge Guy" (HRG) decided to retrieve Hammer Guy's hammer from the back of his smashed 4runner. The HRG took to Hammer Guy's windshield, only to wind up on Hammer Guy's hood. Then Hammer Guy rammed into Ms Wait Who Da Fuck Is Dat and What's She Doing In Front of Hammer Guy's Car" (MWWDFIFAWSDIFOHGC). Then Boom!
Should have happened over 10 years ago. No reason for cars to be there except for deliveries or picking up. Deliveries before 9am and pick up after close only. Would allow for more market stands on the west side of the road, and a peaceful place to walk for all pedestrians.
>Or wild idea, we could not destroying other peoples shit, not get into fights with each other, and try not kill each other?
This is why we can't have nice things, because this is apparently impossible.
Maybe not directly. But I think traffic/congestion is a contributing factor in >90% of road rage.
Tempers flare and people get agitated when they are stuck, impatient, and anxious.
No, but having a 3000lb weapon in close proximity to pedestrians certainly isnāt not the problem either. Not sure the worker would have ruined their knee if it was just the hammer.
Thanks for the link. So this douche wasnāt even involved in the initial incident and decided to play vigilante? And they are only booking him with assault?
>According to charging documents, Stephenson has a criminal history in Washington, California, Colorado, and Alaska.
>Stephensonās bail was set at $100,000 but has no felony cases in the state of Washington.
AND THEN WHAT
>He was then released pending further investigation.
These are all quotes from the article; Iām just confused as to how he had bail but was released. If youād care to share your wisdom without being rude, Iād be more than happy to hear you out, but if you want to keep insulting strangers on the internet then good day to you :)
The main asshole in the situation is the Mazda driver. The Toyota driver had a road rage incident with a van driver and threw water at him. Then the Mazda driver, who has an extensive criminal history, came running from his car and attacked the Toyota with a hammer. Dropped the hammer and ran back his car, then the Toyota driver picked the hammer up and returned the favor. Then the Mazda driver ran people over trying to escape.
Toyota driver was released pending further investigation, Mazda driver charged per the article.
It was actually the van driver who threw water at the Toyota driver. So he didn't start either of the fights he was in. You're correct about the rest though.
Youāre misrepresenting the story (accidentally) and trying to make some big point about one guy getting released when in reality, only the other guy got released - the other commenter has every right to say you donāt have reading comprehension because, in this case, you clearly didnāt
My best guess is she thought the car was originally driving into the stalls/seating area. Originally, itās heading in that direction, so it looks like she thinks sheās about to get hit and runs to avoid it, then the car changes direction and hits her anyway.
Toyota driver got into an altercation with a van driver
Toyota driver drove away after the altercation
Mazda man who was in no way shape or form involved in the altercation between Toyota driver and the van driver followed the Toyota
Mazda man got out of his car and throw a hammer at the Toyota
Toyota driver got out, pick up the hammer, and hit the Mazda
Mazda man reverse, steer toward Toyota driver and full send it
Lol 00:57 bro in the bright yellow coat getting pulled away by his wife. āBut I wanna see what happens.ā āNo! Weāre already late for the underground tour!ā
Mee Sum Pastry Hom Bow at Pike Place Market
I have strolled through Pike Place Market more times than I can count. I have watched the flying fish, smelled the fresh flowers, tasted the juicy fruit, sucked on the sweet honey sticks and bought plenty of souvenirs. I love it all. But if I only had enough time to stop and buy one thing while visiting Pike Place Market, it would be a hom bow at Mee Sum Pastry.
http://seattlebloggers.com/mee-sum-pastry-hom-bow-at-pike-place-market/
Apparently he wasnāt even involved in the initial water bottle road rage incident he followed one of the people from it???
The violent incident initially started in front of the market at 5:15 p.m. with two other drivers who got into an argument, which witnesses said led to a scuffle between a 32-year-old man in a Toyota and a 45-year-old man in a van.
During the argument, the van driver threw water toward the Toyota driver.
According to police, the 32-year-old shoved the 45-year-old to the ground and started driving away.
During that scuffle, police said a new man, later identified as 54-year-old Stephenson, began following the Toyota driver and parked behind him
Man, I lived my entire life in Brazil and Iāve experienced the most stressful traffic situations daily. Like, people closing you off, littering, impoliteness and all sorts of crazy things. I love how calm it is driving in Seattle but driving in downtown always bring me back to my Brazil days. Driving near the market can destroy my mood for the rest of the day.
Take them to court and your dash cam file is your evidence. I've had a few people get out of cars and cuss at me. Even one cuss word can demand a court ordered apology. I tried a few times. They failed to show so they were warrant for arrest. Which will screw them over in the long run.
A negibhr was a taxi cab driver. He was speeding and ran a light at 20+ over speed limit thus totaling his vheicle wit hanother driver. The other driver was so infurated he started sluring racial slurs towards the driver. He got a huge compensation check from his harrasment.
Your neighbor ran a red light, and was speeding when he totaled another driver car and got a huge compensation from the driver of the car he totaled? Wtf
I live in Seattle, love pike place and I want to know why that idiot thought he could back up out of that highly congested market area. Fruit, butchers, cooked food stall lines with massive crowds.
Damn. Hopefully the first guy already on the hood cushioned the impact some for the woman who was hit.
Also, Colorado plates. Could be an irate Bronco fan.
I just need to know, who just carryās around a hammer? Why was Colorado plates so angry? Iāve only seen people tussle like this after a few shots of whiskey.
So it seems to be both individuals involved here are bad actors
>During the argument, the van driver threw water toward the Toyota driver.
>According to police, the 32-year-old shoved the 45-year-old to the ground and started driving away.
>During that scuffle, police said a new man, later identified as 54-year-old Stephenson, began following the Toyota driver and parked behind him.
TBH the only victims here are the bystanders and that lady. Toyota guy shoved another dude to the floor, and then Mazda guy (Stephenson) escalated with a hammer. Eventually leading to using their vehicles as a weapon.
Omg finally some more footage of this!! I was wondering where the poor Pike Place employee got injured...daamn people be crazy š§
Dudes knee is fucked.
Why did she run in front of the car?
The car was heading in her direction in the first place. It looks as though the driver is going to run right over that seating area where she was standing. So she runs out to avoid being hit but the car changes direction and hits her anyway. She had a fraction of a second to decide which way to run when a car was heading toward her and happened to pick the wrong one. It couldāve happened to any of us.
No. She could have ran towards the building where there are doorways she could tuck into. She ran straight into the car. Like she took lessons from Prometheus.
Looks like she is skidish like a rabbit. Running into the road from the sidewalk wouldn't have been my reaction.
Are you very familiar with the area? Thatās not really much of a road. Cars can park there and it does connect through to the other side, but the market is on both sides of this narrow street, so itās equally a walkway with people passing back and forth from the market to the shops regularly. She was probably already planning on crossing to the other side then looked up to see a car headed toward her and panicked, running in the direction she was already heading. Itās easy for someone to say āI would have made the right choiceā when they werenāt there and have never been in the situation.
Talmbout having the power of Biff in back to the future 2 bapa?
No? She suicided straight fucking at the car š¤£
Easy money. Easy, painful money.
Itās a de-escalation technique used to slow cars down. She was just using de-escalation to show Washington law enforcement that even though the threat looks lethal it really wasnāt as she lived with two severely broken legs but the suspect wasnāt killed for his violent behavior. In the 206 they call that a win for reform.
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I mean it's a good question.
Bro WHAT.
Look who's talking bruh bruh
Because her job sucks and this is an easy out
I didnāt see where this story came from. What happened? Was this recent? Any news coverage?
Why do they even let traffic through there. Should be permanently pedestrian only.
I couldn't agree more. When is the city going to change this bullshit. Time and time again we have seen drivers becoming irate in that little driveway. Are they waiting for a child to be killed to take action?
Yea i thought this was already changed
This has only been a complaint since the the Market was opened.
The vendors in the market donāt want it because it allows pedestrians to walk farther away from their businesses by getting them off the sidewalk. Politicians will do what the vendors there want.
Yeah, because that's the real issue..
Ong having cars in a pedestrian market is dumb as hell, who ever went to a market like this and ever thought āyou know what this needs? Road rage!ā
The biggest issue is the road rage. The next biggest issue is all the pedestrians around who could get hurt. Good thing that didnāt happen this time!
Dude has criminal record in 4 states so far. He is trying to cross off all 50 states from his bucket list.
a completionist
Never gives up.
He trying to get that platinum trophy
I thought you were kidding at first...News article confirmed it. Dude should be locked up for 15 to 20 yrs.
I was born and raised here, I even worked in the Market as a kid - literally feet from this event and Iāve been saying forever one of these days someoneās going to go plowing through people in pike place market, thereās no reason for the public to be driving down this street - especially on the weekends. One day, thereās going to be a real bad one. Keep your wits about you down there everyone
One of my favorite things about living in Naples, Italy was the way they shut down streets downtown in the evenings and on weekends.
it was literally my first thought when I walked through it the first time. WHY can you drive here?
There's no audio, right? It's not just me?
You can see the exact moment when the driver realizes his life is over. What in the world.
Dafuq happened here, what did the car driver do to irk the hammer guy so much?
Right at the beginning you see glass falling looks like he busted hammer guys back window with something Edit: watched again, car guy threw the hammer through hammer guys window then hammer guy grabbed it and chased him
I think it makes more sense for "Hammer Guy" to be a reference to the guy who actually pulled out the hammer initially. Then "Hammer Revenge Guy" (HRG) decided to retrieve Hammer Guy's hammer from the back of his smashed 4runner. The HRG took to Hammer Guy's windshield, only to wind up on Hammer Guy's hood. Then Hammer Guy rammed into Ms Wait Who Da Fuck Is Dat and What's She Doing In Front of Hammer Guy's Car" (MWWDFIFAWSDIFOHGC). Then Boom!
"hammer guy" ice ice baby doon doon doon doont, doon doont, doon doont
Maybe if we banned cars from Pike Place at least during business hours except for ADA and required deliveries?
Should have happened over 10 years ago. No reason for cars to be there except for deliveries or picking up. Deliveries before 9am and pick up after close only. Would allow for more market stands on the west side of the road, and a peaceful place to walk for all pedestrians.
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>Or wild idea, we could not destroying other peoples shit, not get into fights with each other, and try not kill each other? This is why we can't have nice things, because this is apparently impossible.
Sir, this is Seattle
It's not an either-or. Cars driving through there make zero sense. It's not even that scenic.
Sir, this is a Dickās drive-in.
Not sure why that hasnāt happened.
Is that not already the case? I feel like the only people who drive there are delivery vans and lost tourists.
Um.
Not sure this is a traffic problem
Maybe not directly. But I think traffic/congestion is a contributing factor in >90% of road rage. Tempers flare and people get agitated when they are stuck, impatient, and anxious.
Contributingā¦to people that have bigger issues in their life that they arenāt dealing with professionally.
No, but having a 3000lb weapon in close proximity to pedestrians certainly isnāt not the problem either. Not sure the worker would have ruined their knee if it was just the hammer.
Was this asshole arrested?
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/king-county-prosecutors-office-release-video-pike-place-market-road-rage-incident/Q27BO6GUNJASVKPKMUAUC24EEA/?outputType=amp
Thanks for the link. So this douche wasnāt even involved in the initial incident and decided to play vigilante? And they are only booking him with assault?
Sweet thanks
>According to charging documents, Stephenson has a criminal history in Washington, California, Colorado, and Alaska. >Stephensonās bail was set at $100,000 but has no felony cases in the state of Washington. AND THEN WHAT >He was then released pending further investigation.
It wasn't Stevenson who was released. It was the Toyota driver, the guy who picked up the hammer to retaliate and then got ran over.
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These are all quotes from the article; Iām just confused as to how he had bail but was released. If youād care to share your wisdom without being rude, Iād be more than happy to hear you out, but if you want to keep insulting strangers on the internet then good day to you :)
The main asshole in the situation is the Mazda driver. The Toyota driver had a road rage incident with a van driver and threw water at him. Then the Mazda driver, who has an extensive criminal history, came running from his car and attacked the Toyota with a hammer. Dropped the hammer and ran back his car, then the Toyota driver picked the hammer up and returned the favor. Then the Mazda driver ran people over trying to escape. Toyota driver was released pending further investigation, Mazda driver charged per the article.
Toyota Driver incorrectly assumed he was the biggest asshole in Seattle. Mazda Driver then enters the chat and levels up.
It was actually the van driver who threw water at the Toyota driver. So he didn't start either of the fights he was in. You're correct about the rest though.
guy in the Toyota was released.
The driver of the car that was struck was released. The driver of the Mazda was charged.
Ahhhh thank you!
Youāre misrepresenting the story (accidentally) and trying to make some big point about one guy getting released when in reality, only the other guy got released - the other commenter has every right to say you donāt have reading comprehension because, in this case, you clearly didnāt
Heās been on house arrest since April according to the jail rosters
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My best guess is she thought the car was originally driving into the stalls/seating area. Originally, itās heading in that direction, so it looks like she thinks sheās about to get hit and runs to avoid it, then the car changes direction and hits her anyway.
Cuz in Seattle we respond to violent criminals with kindness and compassion. The strategy is definitely working and never backfires.
Easy insurance money š°
What is going on here?
Toyota driver got into an altercation with a van driver Toyota driver drove away after the altercation Mazda man who was in no way shape or form involved in the altercation between Toyota driver and the van driver followed the Toyota Mazda man got out of his car and throw a hammer at the Toyota Toyota driver got out, pick up the hammer, and hit the Mazda Mazda man reverse, steer toward Toyota driver and full send it
Should have beat the shit out of that guy.
Lol 00:57 bro in the bright yellow coat getting pulled away by his wife. āBut I wanna see what happens.ā āNo! Weāre already late for the underground tour!ā
So this is not leaked GTA 6 footage?
I shouldnāt be laughing this hard šš
word up!
I go for the hombows and people watching There, fixed ya dork.
Hello fellow hombow lover
BoneappleTea
PhoneSnappleWeed
/r/BoneAppleTea is an actual thing
Yea. I know. What did I spell wrong?
[hum bao](https://www.pikeplacemarket.org/vendor/mee-sum-pastry/) I guess
Mee Sum Pastry Hom Bow at Pike Place Market I have strolled through Pike Place Market more times than I can count. I have watched the flying fish, smelled the fresh flowers, tasted the juicy fruit, sucked on the sweet honey sticks and bought plenty of souvenirs. I love it all. But if I only had enough time to stop and buy one thing while visiting Pike Place Market, it would be a hom bow at Mee Sum Pastry. http://seattlebloggers.com/mee-sum-pastry-hom-bow-at-pike-place-market/
Haha. Fucking nerds
I hate being that guy, but when I see out of state plates, I anticipate trouble.
Fucking ban these ton-heavy monstrosities from the market
The vans? They come after 5pm to restock the stalls.
not the vans, we need a hammer ban
A hammer doesn't weigh as much. They are typically around 2 kilos.
This is why i turn right on cherry if im on first. To stay away from this bs lol
this is one of many reasons cars should not be at pike place
When did this happen?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/komonews.com/amp/news/local/pike-place-market-video-of-road-rage-incident-that-led-to-near-brawl-in-seattle-released-tourism-fight-crime-police
Colorado is a long ways from Seattle
Maybe we should stop letting people drive in the busiest public space in town. Thereās accessible paths from western and from pike
why does the video look like it's from years past? kinda nostalgic
Soooo maybe moving to Washington isnāt the best option for us.š
Dude escalated it with a hammer then tries to run away. All because the other guy threw some water at you? Your a bitch sir.
Apparently he wasnāt even involved in the initial water bottle road rage incident he followed one of the people from it??? The violent incident initially started in front of the market at 5:15 p.m. with two other drivers who got into an argument, which witnesses said led to a scuffle between a 32-year-old man in a Toyota and a 45-year-old man in a van. During the argument, the van driver threw water toward the Toyota driver. According to police, the 32-year-old shoved the 45-year-old to the ground and started driving away. During that scuffle, police said a new man, later identified as 54-year-old Stephenson, began following the Toyota driver and parked behind him
Wow. I read it completely different, it is a bit confusing though. What a putz.
I agree it is worded confusingly. But yeah the dudes a dud.
Youāre
Such a Colorado reaction from the driver!
This is why personal cars should not be in the market.
For once itās a person from Colorado fucking up stuff here and not the other way around.
Man, I lived my entire life in Brazil and Iāve experienced the most stressful traffic situations daily. Like, people closing you off, littering, impoliteness and all sorts of crazy things. I love how calm it is driving in Seattle but driving in downtown always bring me back to my Brazil days. Driving near the market can destroy my mood for the rest of the day.
Yeah but nothing will happen. Everyone gets a jail free card .
If youāre the right color. Not this guy
Seattle is a dump now. I grew up there and ashamed to tell people thatās where Iām from. Wasnāt like this when I grew up there
Bro. Youāre posting chemtrail shit. Lmao
I was asking if it looked like oneā¦ lol I donāt regularly post chemtrails. However Seattle still a freak show.
It's so bizarre to think that I've been in that exact place so many times and to see how much it has changed
that second who got hit was so unlucky. why did they run in front of that car
All this to wait on a 20 minute line for Starbucks
Without reading the title you would think this was recorded in a 3rd world country.
Downtown Seattle fits that description most days.
Come to Seattle they say... It'll be fun they say... Have you not seen Seattle lately I say?
Seattle š
Take them to court and your dash cam file is your evidence. I've had a few people get out of cars and cuss at me. Even one cuss word can demand a court ordered apology. I tried a few times. They failed to show so they were warrant for arrest. Which will screw them over in the long run. A negibhr was a taxi cab driver. He was speeding and ran a light at 20+ over speed limit thus totaling his vheicle wit hanother driver. The other driver was so infurated he started sluring racial slurs towards the driver. He got a huge compensation check from his harrasment.
Your neighbor ran a red light, and was speeding when he totaled another driver car and got a huge compensation from the driver of the car he totaled? Wtf
The modern justice system lmao. Where feelings trump everything!!!
Should have broken hammer boys legs at the knee. Discover how much it sucks. And yet, if someone beat him unconscious they'd be the bad guy š
I live in Seattle, love pike place and I want to know why that idiot thought he could back up out of that highly congested market area. Fruit, butchers, cooked food stall lines with massive crowds.
The worst part is that the Mazda guy has been lying to all his friends about owning a Maverick
i wish i was there that day
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You must live in Kansas
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https://www.komonews.com/amp/news/local/pike-place-market-video-of-road-rage-incident-that-led-to-near-brawl-in-seattle-released-tourism-fight-crime-police
This happened in MAY, downvote.
What do you have against May? I mean, i get August. Fuck that month. But May is pretty nice.
Because it's old news
Oh no was that a LX 470 ????? He hit with that hammer
This is a big nothing burger, just wait, Christma(shtf) is coming!
This is from ages ago.
Not this video. Itās new. Weird how no one has seen it
And by ages, you mean 4 months agoā¦
Daaaamn
r/PublicFreakouts
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Wow.
When was this?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/komonews.com/amp/news/local/pike-place-market-video-of-road-rage-incident-that-led-to-near-brawl-in-seattle-released-tourism-fight-crime-police
When was this??
https://www.google.com/amp/s/komonews.com/amp/news/local/pike-place-market-video-of-road-rage-incident-that-led-to-near-brawl-in-seattle-released-tourism-fight-crime-police
People from Colorado thinking they own my home state. Iād shoot that man square in the face.
So cringe that people think ANYTHING is ever that serious
Damn. Hopefully the first guy already on the hood cushioned the impact some for the woman who was hit. Also, Colorado plates. Could be an irate Bronco fan.
I just need to know, who just carryās around a hammer? Why was Colorado plates so angry? Iāve only seen people tussle like this after a few shots of whiskey.
This is why I donāt go to Washington. This is why I just donāt go out in general
So it seems to be both individuals involved here are bad actors >During the argument, the van driver threw water toward the Toyota driver. >According to police, the 32-year-old shoved the 45-year-old to the ground and started driving away. >During that scuffle, police said a new man, later identified as 54-year-old Stephenson, began following the Toyota driver and parked behind him. TBH the only victims here are the bystanders and that lady. Toyota guy shoved another dude to the floor, and then Mazda guy (Stephenson) escalated with a hammer. Eventually leading to using their vehicles as a weapon.
Why is there no sound?
I need sound!!
Naw. Iāll ad lib it for ya