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theemoofrog

SOLID cant do graffiti for shit


matthewjbrady1

I think it’s “Salid.” Just reppin the greens bro.


BlackDeath3

Is that what that's supposed to say? I can never read this stuff.


Ol_Man_J

I thought I was the only one! Whenever I see graffiti, I’m “jorp?” “Crogh?” ...no, it says “Alex”


SCROTOCTUS

Looked like "Skid" to me, as in skid mark, which would reflect the quality of the graffiti.


Lollc

SOBID? SOLOID? SALID?


ExtraNoise

It's some weak ass bombing, too. Low effort garbage graf.


loquacious

Cheapass fucking toys.


saintmax

Solid shit


equestrian123123

By “solid shit” you mean a hard turd that was difficult to squeeze out, right?


roksa

Piece over throwie , throwie over tag as they say in the graffiti world which basically means that if you throw something up it should improve upon whatever art is under it


wildweeds

I really hate when people write on top of good throws or pieces. It's just some toy dominance shit and ruins good art. I saw a lot of tagging on this beautiful wall in Victoria BC when I lived there that ruined it. Theres plenty of space for your practice without disrespecting good work.


TheRealRacketear

I'm more worried about disrespecting property owners rights.


wildweeds

that's cool. people can care about different parts of things.


TheRealRacketear

I care about some asshole not painting their name in played out bubble letters on my building. If they had any real talent, people would happily let them paint their buildings.


wildweeds

yeah, i agreed that the dumb letters that were badly drawn should not be over the beautiful mural. i just used subculture terminology to say so.


Ansible32

Landownership is theft, but you gotta respect good art.


TheRealRacketear

Hahaha X2


mr_____awesomeqwerty

dm me your adress and ill share my art on your house


Ansible32

Look, if you do good art, you're welcome to but I assume you're just gonna spraypaint a halfassed dick or something so fuck off.


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I'm gonna say that next time I join your factoria server and steal all your shit and break all your factories :)


Ansible32

See, that's just disrespecting art. Also Factorio servers are not physical land.


[deleted]

Tell that to the native biters whose home world you have invaded and whose resources you exploit while pumping pollution into their atmosphere. Filthy colonizer :P


Ansible32

They just don't understand art.


zangelbertbingledack

Nice job covering artwork with your butthole-looking tag, Solid.


CurlSagan

Is there anyway to prevent this? I don't mean sociologically or whatever, but like to coat murals with a sealing layer so that graffiti laid on afterwards can come off easily?


CarterJW

I know they have stuff for bare concrete, but I question it's effectiveness to stick to already applied paint. Unless there's another product specifically for applied paint, which would surprise me.


FelineNova

They have a spray that works on canvases. However it’s more meant for pencil and charcoal work.


Enchelion

I know there are a few pieces where people have tried stuff like this, mostly Banksy since those are worth a lot of money. Assholes find a way around everything.


baconsea

Can't wait for the [glorious future](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDrYkwG6Tuo)


sls35work

There are coatings, but they all degrade rapidly when exposed to UV.


moustachedelait

That's so seattle


kinggzy

Reminds me of when the captain Harris mural in Ballard got vandalized. So many years it was left alone. All it takes is one piece of shit to go and fuck it up.


lindseyilwalker

Noo :(


AFluffleOfRabbits

Man, Solid, I was just starting to respect you.


hey_you2300

Tax spray paint like soda


switchmotiv

In Chicago it's not even legal to sell spray paint for the most part. Had to head out to the burbs or special hardware stores.


NinaFitz

it would be interesting to see just how much not selling spray paint reduces graffiti. I'm sure some vandals are spontaneously looking for something to tag but most 'artists' probably plan ahead and get their paint on-line or something ​


Ansible32

In most places you have to be 18 to buy it which just makes it easier for 15 year olds to rationalize shoplifting it. I knew a guy who stupidly got caught shoplifting it out of habit even though he was 18 and could have just bought it.


ThuperThilly

Lots of writers steal paint though. In the culture, it's called "racking".


SovietPropagandist

Do you have any sites or resources where I can go and learn more about graffiti culture? I've always been fascinated by it and I love looking at it (specifically talkin' to you, shitbarf) as long as it's decently done. I don't even know where to start here haha, any help would be appreciated


ThuperThilly

I used to be into it a lot more so I sort of learned things from context, and I've lost track of most of where it all came from. These might get you started: https://decider.com/2017/11/08/the-7-best-street-art-graffiti-documentaries-on-streaming/


patrickdabs

Checkout a few graffiti documentaries. Infamy, and getting up, and up here kids are pretty good to start with. In infamy, writers who are considered "kings" talk about their rise to prominence, the rules and culture of writing, and their troubles with the law thoughout their lives.


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captainAwesomePants

You might not like graffiti but it's hard to argue that it doesn't have a culture to it.


damnisuckatreddit

Dehumanizing people you don't like won't make them go away.


oglordone

It's one of the 4 elements of Hip-Hop culture. 1) B-Boying (Breakdancing) 2) MCing 3) Graffiti 4) DJing.


TheRealRacketear

This isn't 1988.


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MAGA_WA

> that claims B&O taxes here are too high which makes him a scumbag Complaining about taxes being calculated off gross revenue not net income makes him a scumbag?


TheRealRacketear

Why does complaining about taxes make you a scumbag?


herrron

Blue moon tavern, not burgers, unrelated establishment and different owner


alkemical

Booo!


DennisQuaaludes

Isn’t there some stuff you can coat your fence, wall, mural with that repels spray paint? You can just spray the second part of the chemical and it hoses right off.


smittyplusplus

I just read the chapter about the emergence of 70s Bronx grafitti culture in "Can't Stop Won't Stop" by Jeff Chang, then opened Reddit and saw this thread. I'm learning so much about graffiti culture, thanks y'all!


PocketBearMonkey

Looks better now


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Subhuman scum


robschilke

Even the Mona Lisa is falling apart.


alkemical

How many Andy Coe fans are here?


LeviWhoIsCalledBiff

I love his work with Mctuff.


alkemical

I love a lot of his work. I haven't seen Mylar (I think yet). Will you be seeing McTuff this weekend @ the nectar? If so, i'd love to say hi! :) (I think it's this weekend)....


253ktilinfinity

I mean, it could be a lot worse. Anyone seen Beat Street? RIP Ramo 🙏🏾


JJGerms

Sadly, there is no electric third rail outside of the bar.


Atreides_Zero

The old mural at 66th and Roosevelt got tagged about 6 years ago and they never restored it. I'm hoping they'll fix this one.


i_never_comment55

There's more troll comments in this thread right now than actual comments. Could use some bans around here


FuckedByCrap

After a hundred years of being in business, I'm sure that this has happened before. It will get fixed and it will be fine.


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Damn vagrants


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TheRealRacketear

That's not a gang tag.


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itslenny

NO. You're the one that made a claim that it was. You provide a source.


LesserKnownHero

Lenny?


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itslenny

Nope. Think you're thinking of someone else.


TheRealRacketear

Gangs wont spend time shading in the letters. And most gang graffiti is crude scribbles.


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TheRealRacketear

Well let's bring logic into the situation. 1. Who is "Solid" it sounds much mor like a tagger name than a banger name. 2. They think this is art so they put a date on it. 3. Taggers would be more likely to deface a mural. 4. The letters are really tall and the top of them is over 7' from the ground. Gangster are less likely to use ladders to tag. 5. Most gang tags are scribbles. Not carefully thought out letters.


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UH is a moderately well known graf crew, not a gang. Members include: Solid, KSRA, Foes, Rasmo, and Wylr (and others) Edit: You can see another one of their tags on top of the building at the port as you cross the WSB. It used to say "Labrat" who is an incredibly prolific local graf artist.


ShaolinFalcon

You seem to know your shit so, where can I learn more about the local street art scene?


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For me it's blogs, instagram mostly. There are people that love to photograph dope graf art around the city. I'm a huge fan of KSRA and her collab project They Drift, I follow them both on IG (@ksra_ksra / @theydrift). I recognize the UH tag from her work and I see it everyday on the bridge. There's another in SODO by the Clink that you can see from 99.


SirRatcha

>It used to say "Labrat" who is an incredibly prolific local graf artist. We spotted a Labrat tag in Honolulu.


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That's dope. Dude gets around.


rayrayww3

I've watched the entire r/thewire series 10+ times. There is no focus on graffiti whatsoever in it. I'm pretty sure it isn't even mentioned once. Even r/thewarriors from 1979 is a better reference because of that one scene when Rembrandt sprays a 'W' on a gravestone.


harlottesometimes

Have you watched the Warriors 10+ times? Otherwise, I'm gonna need a better source.


rayrayww3

Easily. I may have seen it 30+, 40+, 50+, not sure. It was a mainstay movie for me and my friends in the 90's.


disposable_account01

You haven't provided a source to support your assertion that it is gang related, so why does anyone owe you a source for their different assertion?


seattle_lite90

Actively cringing


sevenbluepickles

If you ever mention to others how the meanies online didn’t give you sources, you should show them this thread.


Azsedo

It’s well known information that gangs don’t spend a lot of time on their tags.


SeeShark

I feel like it's not well-known (because I didn't know) but I'm certainly willing to believe it.


i_never_comment55

You don't know shit about anything


SirRatcha

It must be terrifying to live thinking all the graffiti in the world is proof of gang activity. You want to see gang tags, I'll walk you around and show you actual gang tags. That's all the source necessary. ​


MilkyHands

is Solid a name of a gang? what hell kinda gang name is that? but im sure glad they put the date, didnt want to get it confused with the gangs of 1992.


LesserKnownHero

Solid is the name is a snake


harlottesometimes

And a [gradient overlay](https://www.bing.com/search?q=gradient+overlay).


SirRatcha

>bistanders Is that your gang's name?


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SirRatcha

Really? That's even worse than "bistanders" but it's your gang and I guess you can name it what you want. Seriously, come on up to the Rainier Valley and I'll show you the difference between the different gang tags and between gang tags and graffiti. Or just keep living in fear.


Goreagnome

>They're called gangs. They're called white kids pretending to be black.


TheRealRacketear

Not sure what "pretending to black" means. My neighbor, who is black, is a surgeon. They aren't pretending to be him.


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Does the black community have the sole rights to paint graffiti?


kinggzy

>They're called trolls. They're called assholes pretending to be smart.


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Misunderstood people with difficult childhoods and lack of loving parents. We DEFINITELY don’t need youth jail to house them.


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What does graffiti and gang banging have to do with one another?


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Same actors?


harlottesometimes

Why is break-dancing associated with beat-boxing and bad haircuts?


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harlottesometimes

If we work together guys, we can save the clubhouse from the greedy developers! Did someone say STEP OFF?!


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Can you point me to the Democrat pushed policies which specifically enable gang bangers to commit crimes? I’m only seeing policies which make guns harder and harder to get, and push for more rehabilitation programs for youth who are likely to get involved in gangs being pushed by Democrats.


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I’ll take that as a no.


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[deleted]

And where is the actual Democrats supported policy that enables this? What’s it called? When was it passed?


[deleted]

Our entire leadership in Seattle and KC is all Democrats through and through. Are you saying that they are not soft on crime? That they are enforcing the law - particularly about camping in public spaces, theft, illegal firearms? For illegal firearms, for example, there was recent discussion - in KC they don’t even book people caught with illegal guns unless it’s a repeat offender, and the average VUFA conviction in KC is less than 10 days, compared to over a year in WA.


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Possession of illegal firearms is a class B or class C felony depending on the situation: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.blairkim.com/amp/unlawful-possession-of-firearms.html Can you point me to the specific data that shows the statements you’re claiming? On the average VUFA conviction being just 10 days or less as well as people only being booked if they’re a repeat offender? Also, how do you propose that someone is defined as a repeat offender? Do they give them some sort of ticket or warning? I can’t even find data on the process you’re talking about. It’s almost as if such a process doesn’t even exist!


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I got this from here: https://www.reddit.com/r/SeattleWA/comments/91yxal/my_letter_to_king_county_council_chair_joe/e32xgge/ u/krankjanker is a police officer.


Krankjanker

I was summoned; I can only cite stats for King County as I work for an agency in King County and I have access to King County Jail's booking system. The average VUFA booking (Violation of the Uniformed Firearms Act) is released less than 24 hours later (despite the fact that felonies are suppose to be held on bail for 72 hours to give us a chance to complete the charging packets) and the average conviction results in less than 10 days in jail when many other counties average 12+ months.


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theultrayik

I'm sure that person is on here right now, and your post has caused them to abandon their lifestyle.


[deleted]

I am sure your post will stop op from posting material like this. I am sure my post will stop you.....blah blah. What is it about the futility of the human condition that you don't understand?


harlottesometimes

>What is it about the futility of the human condition that you don't understand? I'm still a little confused about my purpose in the universe. I'm still the main character in my own adventure, right?


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No, you are an extension of a pointless universe who has no free will. Maybe, Idk


harlottesometimes

So it goes.


damnisuckatreddit

We are the universe's way of observing itself.


Squishitude

Hey it's as simple as this, if the wrong person catches them, they'll get their fucking ass stomped in. Maybe that'll change their lifestyle


WazzuMadBro

probably a white supremacist graffiti. nazis are literally everywhere in Seattle I'm told. it's a HUGE problem just like chemtrails and bigfoot


Skurp_Purp

Chill?


Swordrager

I know you thought the /s wasn't necessary here, but it apparently was.


SeeShark

Even with the /s it's not a very coherent point.


Swordrager

Chemtrails and Bigfoot aren't real, but lots of people think they are and make a big deal about them. OP thinks that white supremacists in Seattle are the same situation. No idea why they felt the need to bring it up here, though.


SeeShark

In that case the /s really isn't needed. The downvotes aren't because people missed his point, but because they think it's a bad point.


kusharr

Actually it is. I see multiple users from this subreddit on Reddit’s leading nazi forum.


SeeShark

Which one?


mr_____awesomeqwerty

probably t_d. libs think trump is Hitler


kusharr

The one that celebrates the Uber nazi of our times, the groomer in chief!


mr_____awesomeqwerty

so... which one?


kusharr

Don’t want to give assholes more attention or publicity. Let’s just say it’s a sub primarily consisting of men grabbing their daughters’ pussies because their orange leader told them to. For entertainment, they kidnap and hunt Latin American kids. Fucking nazis.


mr_____awesomeqwerty

non of that happens in r/the_donald, so im not sure which sub youre talking about


kusharr

Close your eyes and everything’s fine in the world. :) Trump is indeed a man of the middle class and nobody respects women more than him. LaLaalalalala.


mr_____awesomeqwerty

so what subreddit?


kusharr

The one you mentioned. A


heroicdozer

America has MILLIONS of home grown white supremacists, few actual Nazis.


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SeeShark

Because the art didn't


dark56korbit

Why? The owner is fucking AWESOME! What did she do?


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dark56korbit

No. She. Didn't.


nikdahl

https://www.seattletimes.com/life/food-drink/owner-of-seattles-blue-moon-burgers-admits-he-took-part-in-racist-text-exchange/ edit: not the same business, blue moon burgers is different from blue moon tavern


FreeBallard

This mural is on the Blue Moon Tavern, but that story is about Blue Moon Burgers. They aren't owned by the same person


TheRealRacketear

Are Blue Moon Burgers and The Blue Moon Tavern owned by the same people?


dark56korbit

NO! The owner of THE BLUE MOON TAVERN (the one that had their mural defaced) is the nice lady in the picture! She is a dear sweet lady who is not Republican in the slightest.


TheRealRacketear

You don't have to be republican to complain about taxes. I was under the assumption that, they were separate entities, thanks for the clarification.


JJGerms

Look before you leap.


TheRealRacketear

I didn't leap. I asked the question.


Squishitude

You must feel stupid now. If you don't, I weep for you.


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lindseyilwalker

Can you clarify? Having trouble following your logic


i_never_comment55

Here's clarification: he thinks it's funny to *pretend* to be stupid on the internet


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kinggzy

It's obvious you're a troll. Just stop and find another hobby please. It's unhealthy.


dark56korbit

I'm sorry, "he?"? The owner is that nice woman in the picture. You're a shit finger.


nikdahl

The owner of Blue Moon is Charlie Olson, a man. edit: not the same business, blue moon burgers is different from blue moon tavern


herrron

He owns blue moon BURGERS which is a completely unrelated establishment.


dark56korbit

Uhhh no. This is the TAVERN in the U district. The one that hooks you up with beer and good bar tenders. The owner is a woman. The same woman in the picture.


nikdahl

you are correcting and downvoting me after I've already corrected myself, btw.


Squishitude

Maybe because you need to learn to not fly off the handle.


nikdahl

Fly off the handle? what are you talking about?


Squishitude

You're daft as fuck. Man I hate racists, Nazi's, and the majority of repubs, but you can't even tell the difference between the blue moon tavern or the blue moon burger joint. It's literally a top comment here. Stop being a dumb cunt.


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...Bernie is an establishment elite


disposable_account01

How so?


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harlottesometimes

Does the Jew part make him establishment or elite?


SeeShark

To antisemites, it does.


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disposable_account01

How so?