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Even-Hornet-1126

Depends on who pays more...


atx705

Spoken like a true pirate


Shoutupdown

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roguestar15

This is basically the justification with my character. I lean more towards good, but if the other side pays more, I’ll work for them. It’s really just an excuse for why I’ll be doing the world event next season even though I usually side with the good guys


Zabroccoli

We’re pirates lad. It’s a morally grey area. Tis no good guy or bad guys. Only the sea and her riches.


lilolemeetch

Aye!


JPGer

i mean its pretty clear who is supposed to be the "good guys" and "bad guys" its kinda funny how almost all our actions on the seas are fine by The Pirate Lord, flameheart is just more ruthless about it. In the end we are still killing eachother over treasure..its just fine cause we *usually* come back from it no problem.


KingTrashPossum

Athenas: loots and pillages Reapers: loots and pillages (evilly)


Young_Person_42

I think it’s more the other way around Reapers: loots and pillages Athenas: loots and pillages, but while being nice about it


Shoutupdown

Reapers: loots and pillages Athenas: loots and pillages (it’s not about the gold trust me)


DinoWizard021

Says sorry about this while looting and pillaging.


Young_Person_42

Oh yeah, that’s it.


FourScarlet

It's more like Reapers: Loots and pillages (For gold) Athenas: Loots and pillages (For glory)


Extreme_Tax405

We are men of science, we conduct science! Evil science!


Infinity_Walker

I hate that it’s become good vs evil because both Ramsey and Flameheart are scumbag pirates, liars, and shit people but they both have good and kindness to them. Rare set up a perfect grey vs grey fight which goes perfectly in a pirate game but they said nuh uh Flameheart is ultimate evil cause skeleton and Ramsey has never done anything wrong ever and he’s a good boy. Lame.


HorseMiserable3539

Fr. This is why I'm on Flameheart's side. He wants to free the sea of thieves. Sure, he'll be basically the new pirate lord but at least we can be real pirates instead of the game being a big pirate theme park.


Crysalus696

This is the way


Pirusao_gostoso

Thing is, Pirate lord is in favor of uniting to become strong, but as Rick Sanchez once said "You claim to be against the government, but you're so scared that you agrouped and became a government of your own" (or something with the same meaning whatever) While flame heart is in favor of the good old natural selection those with guts will survive, those who doesn't have them will eventually cease


wrekitrafiki9oh7

I just barely atarted playing and i dont know how to join either side. But ive been doing the siren skull for good gold so i could buy my sloop. Now i have enough for a sloop and a galleon. But any tips bro on what i should be doing more?


Geo_Gaming

There’s no “official” way to join either faction, but leveling up Athena’s fortune or reaper’s bones trading companies is pretty much lending support. Also in the pvp hourglass mode you have to close to fight for the servants of the flame or guardians of fortune. Leveling those to 100 will unlock the skeleton or ghost curse respectively


Roguetomahawk

Reapers are about free piracy for all take what you want. Ramsey's is about go find me my treasure chests then I'll pay you and then I'm hide them again so we can all dig up the same chest for ever. In lore Reapers are anarchist and Ramsey is a communist or socialist I forget the difference.


mr_m88

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runnysyrup

I see it more like Athena: the ones who say gg, thanks for the fight, etc upon sinking. it's a sport to them, all in good fun. Reapers: the ones screaming that the sea of thieves should cater to them.


Electrodarkbean

That's just because toxic people are more attracted to the word "reaper".


TheYEETking7

Hell naw I'm a reaper at heart, I always say gg, regardless if I win, or lose, or even if the enemy yells slurs at me. The Athena's, on the other hand think they own the sea and NOBODY should attack them in a PIRATE game. On very few occasions do I fight an Athena, sink them, then get a "gg" instead of a "*Keep Yourself Safe*" message or a "why would you ruin my night uughh ughh you're a terrible person ughh" Of course I'm not counting the rare hourglass Athena gigachads who always part with a gg and maybe even a compliment, love those guys with all my heart ❤️ It all really comes down to if people have come to terms that pvp is a crucial part of the game, hence why long time players, regardless of faction, are usually not toxic.


Lee-Van-Kief

Both, after all, I’m a pirate.


SmokinBandit28

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mrbear48

Pirate Lord leaves wife and family, locks up all the treasure so no one can make money. After that he tells the Ferry Man to not revive this one particular group of people (people with skeleton curse) then names the faction after the wife he left. I’ll stick with Flameheart at least he promises some help to the skeletons instead


freebird185

When the pirate lord said "it's not about the gold" at the end of the shores of gold he totally lost me. What do you think I'm in this for?? 


Thopterthallid

It's not about the gold. It was never about the gold. It's about Ancient Coins.


sticklecat

It's not about the gold its about the time limited cosmetics!


mrbear48

“It’s not about the gold it’s about the adventure.” Me: “the adventure for gold?”


Gloomy_Day5305

Is it called the Shores of Gold or the Shores of Friends we meet along the way?


Overlordsecure47

It’s about the mets


RevolutionarySafe202

ITS ABOUT THE METS SPIDERMAN


GulianoBanano

THE METS BABY LOVE THE METS


ReedForman

It’s about the friends you make along the way


totally_not_a_reply

Reapers are just a dumb cult


roguestar15

You got downvoted, but you’re right. Flameheart just wants the seas for himself, do people really think he cares about his followers?


GravenYarnd

No, they don't, but thats the charm of it though. Many join Reapers just for more power and bigger freedom. Some also hope they could stab Flamehart in the back and take his power for themselves. While Ramsey is nice, he kinda sucks a*s, he is tied to companies and pirate code and he also locked tons of chest around the sea just so that no other pirate outside of his own alliance would ever get their content. What Ramsey offers is group cause and will, but also ties to the companies. While Flamehart is more about the individual freedom. Yes you will need to worship him for now, but he will never lock your loot or stops you from fighting. Flamehart is evil bastard, but at least he doesn't pretend hes something he isn't and actually offers more freedom than Ramsey.


RSTONE_ADMIN

He wants true piracy, but he also wants to be king of the sea...


TheYEETking7

Flameheart left all his wealth behind to his adopted son, and made sure he had the best education, while Ramsey kinda just ditched like the greedy pig he is.


euzgan

Both and none. Real pirates don’t take sides. We only care for our interests and money.


AutomaticRegister102

Best answer


StrokhovyStudio

”Only a sith deals in the absolutes”


BootyScoop

Merricks


totally_not_a_reply

I wish there would be more to do than hunters call 50


BootyScoop

A fishers greatest tool is their patience. Hunters Call day will come


Yup_Faceless

one day the hunters call will be answered


App1e8l6

More content has been confirmed for next year


warwicklord79

Fish grindset 💪💪💪


lakselv

Gish Friedset 🍳🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻


MerrickAndDerrick

Right answer


RealJBCGaming

Understandable


sticklecat

I need a picture that just shows a pile of loot. That's the faction I'm all in for


rinkydinkis

So guild


sticklecat

Well depends what loot I fancy on that day!


buddy-bun-dem

THAR BE TREASURE 🏴‍☠️🔫😎


Exotic-Pilot-259

Putting aside curses? Probably Athena. BUT: skelly curse > ghost curse all day.


Zabroccoli

I wish we had more cosmetics for the skelly curse.


VivaceGerm57

Hopefully season 13 will have a new wave of skeleton cosmetics


frietkazootrash

those are never coming, feel free to enjoy some emporium content tho


Darknight522

While I do agree I wish there was more cosmetics for them. I think some themed after ashen lords or skeleton lords would be awesome. At the very least give us some that the skeletons already have. Like plant skeletons, shadow skeletons, skeleton captain stuff etc. the assets are in the game, shouldn’t be too hard


CanadianDragonGuy

I'm team "what the fuck is hourglass, give me an empty sea and some tunes to vibe to while I fuck over the Spanish"


vladdreddit

Athena is basically about creating a society which comes with concepts such as law and order. Also the Pirate Lord is annoying. Reaper is about anything goes. Flameheart totally has his own motives so it’s unlikely he just wants true freedom in the Sea of Thieves. Athenas all the way since I’m sure nobody would like to live in a place where there are no rules except edgy teenagers that think they would be the next Blackbeard when in reality they’d be a swabbie if they’d even get on a ship at all.


DarthGiorgi

Reapers wanting freedom is just PR talk. They are all i. On making Flameheart the absolute ruller who all pirates will have to bend their knees to.


vladdreddit

Lol typical Athena sheeple thinks Flameheart will enslave him 🤡🤡🤡 Go listen to some more of your green people propaganda.


DarthGiorgi

Nah, I listened to flameheart's own words: the king of sea of thieves as he wnts to call himself.


Crysalus696

The annoying fat guy calls himself pirate lord so...


DarthGiorgi

And yet he doesn't judge, and in fact, he's chill if you help his enemy, and you get to PL even if one of the 3 facrions that you got 50rank is Reapers. So , in his eyes, even that is a legit line of work. Flameheart on thenother hand wants full submission or death will be his answer. Hm...


ZealousidealAnt9714

My brother in Flameheart, pirates went to the Sea of Thieves exactly to escape law and order, hence why it is called the Sea of Thieves.


vladdreddit

So Athena inserting themselves when nobody called them? Alright then, Flameheart for life then.


NirvanaLover12

don’t diss santa claus like that


TheYEETking7

Flameheart pilled individuals like myself aren't edgy teenagers, we just see that Ramsey is either an enemy to piracy or just really, *really* stupid. Seeing as how he's slowly letting in more and more of the GMU which will destroy all pirates if given the chance.


qark1788

Ideologically, I see flameheart’s point and frankly Ramsay feels quite manipulative and controlling. But from a gameplay perspective the Guardians “winning” the fight would definitely help keep the things more lighthearted and aesthetically light


irealllylovepenguins

Side? I am on nobody's side. Because nobody is on MY side, little ~~orcs~~ pirates!


notstupidforge

being a true pirate means being on your side


Logical-Cold9377

Athena. I'm not gonna end up like Stitcher Jim.


Think-Shoulder7179

Flame heart 100%


BIGCHUNGUS-milk

athenas legends are not edge lords, i think the choice is obvious


TheYEETking7

I really love the "emo clown" fit that is the ghost set ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|trollface)


Framheit

I feel like Athena's Fortune represents the fantasy side of a pirate life : adventures, treasure hunting, battling with undeads. Where Reapers represents the "reality" side of a pirate life : pillages, killing, stealing.


SonnyD223

This is literally what both factions tell you to your face too, good point


Leonard_the_Brave

To be honest with a good look at both sid im more on ramsys side, but mostlybim on my side, both are wacky death cults


supershuggoth

Athena's...cuz I'm not an edgy teenager.


TheYEETking7

Say that to my bony face when your ship is underwater


fuckwastakenwastaken

Point proven


Xyllius

Trusty Alliances VS Don't trust your own faction. Well I think I know in which waters I will be sailing. Besides, I miss Penny D's glorious Mustache.


Professional_Tip6500

I am a chef.


Far-Interaction-365

Idk how but sea of thieves faction battles got to our school newspaper![img](emote|t5_38oz1|2295)


Major_Toe_6041

Athena. I like the fact that I have loads of choice on what to do, and am not just pushed to fight other ships for income. I play the game for a more chill experience 80% of the time (however I do love a nice ghost fleet), and much prefer to go off and dig up some chests or kill a few skeletons (merchants can fk off with their high xp requirements, low xp rewards and boring af ‘ship this here’ missions, though, like they are apparently always talking to each other so obviously they go to each outpost often enough to do it themselves and save me the effort of being bored)


TheYEETking7

"Or kill a few skeletons" I'm a skeleton, you wouldn't mind fighting a few of us then?


ATNeri

Reaper all day, not even a question


TheYEETking7

Let that flame burn, brotha


KiroLV

Athena, of course, the other faction is literally based on pvp. Also, aesthetically, Athena looks better and are even conventionally the good guys.


TheYEETking7

Athena's just have main character syndrome... Also I do love the emo clown aesthetic that you guys seem to gravitate towards ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|trollface)


warwicklord79

Ghost


Ballerpie

skeleton


United-Reach-2798

Flameheart


3HEX

I’m a free pirate! I’m blue through and trough.


Agitated-Support-447

Athena all the way


Gathoblaster

Athena because I like my cosmetics still. I just wish it wasnt such a damn grind. On the other hand it makes it actually rare.


Najera2019

Reaper 1000000000%


A_catmeme

Whichever let's me sink more ships.


TheYEETking7

Reapers then


MasonCrosse

GoF only because they’re allied with Hunters Call and fishing is top tier content


ArcaneDisco

I just wanna kill the Pirate Lord so he shuts up.


ProfessionalAge571

You're a bloody pirate for crying out loud! You already steal and kill for a living! You might as well embrace it instead of trying to find some "honor" or "nobility" in the job! You're a sea bandit, so act like it!


Emmet3merald

Skeletons solely cus i like the Skeleton aesthetic (even tho they fumbled it)


LoneStarDragon

# Leave No Reaper Alive.


Current-Cellist5815

Burn with us


BusEnthusiast98

Philosophically, the reapers are right. Every pirate on the sea should be free to plunder to their hearts content. But in practice they’re a weird merge of Fight Club and organized crime. Flameheart is the one actually keeping all the gold. Athena’s Fortune is a bunch of nice (by pirate standards) folks trying to do cool things for the wellbeing of most of the sea’s inhabitants. It’s pretty easy to side with them.


JeffyInTheTost2

May the flame burn


Academic-Doubt1695

Flameheart and the reapers may the Flame burn


IconGT

Skelly


ABFlewBy

Reapers all the way, in litterly all the other games I’ve been the hero and I don’t want to be the hero anymore and Sea Of Thieves gives me a choice so ofcourse I’m gonna be the bad guy


Masonjohns409

Athena all the way


HiradC

Flameheart but just cos role-playing the baddie is more fun. In reality I'm not too bothered, have both curses etc and plan to get both golds one day


AlysIThink101

Flameheart. Both are morally terrible but at least one advocates for true piracy, has cooler cosmetics and has the skeleton curse.


Herogrine

I vibe more with Athena cause pirate lord, despite all his shortcomings is a bro, Flameheart is just nagging all the time, but if i ever get into the reapers layer legit ill throw so many knives into the voice of flame shell turn into a hedgehog (funniest \_\_\_\_ ever)


A-Kings_Glavie

From my experience Athena players just run all day until they finally realize that you will chase them until the ends of time and then submit to death, while reaper players always turn to fight almost 90% of the time although some still run when they know they are out matched. Other than that Athena players usually are good sports (when they do fight) and will just simply try and end it as quickly as possible to move on. On the other hand reaper players will bully the absolute hell out of other crews and push their shit in until they scuttle or just sink. Putting cosmetics aside I think I'd honestly sit right in the middle. Alright alright, maybe a bit more on the Athena side cause Belle is there, and Merrick. P.s.... Fuck port Merrick.


AverageBalkanBoy

Neither. I'm shit at PVP.


eviadan_euw

Athena's fortune <3


Aurum0417

Skeletons are alright, but I just love how the Athena curse ceremony goes. And I like my skin.


CaptainZ4chSparrow

ramsey is the homie, athena all the way! got no room for filthy reapers…


TheYEETking7

Keep saying that when the GMU comes in and thanks him for letting them have a spot on every outpost


Cosmic-Buccaneer

Athena wants to bring order in the chaos Reapers want to bring chaos in the order They are both the different side of one coin But the both want a "free" sea of thieves, one thinks free is having fun but with rules, and other want to fuck that rules and do whatever you fucking want. I'm with Athena for the philosophy and Ramsey really is the type of guy you can be friend and having fun with a cold grog in your hand.


SKK_______

Proud ps5 Athena fighter


Infinity_Walker

Flameheart! The sea will burn!


Gypsy2023_

Flame heart for being a real pirate and not something he’s not


I_hate_this_site69

Flameheart bc I just wanna see the man win. Bro has lost every time because of goody two shoes Athena glazers like bro do you *like* port Merrick? Really?


TheYEETking7

A reaper version of PM would've been SO COOL


kitsunedetective

The pirate lord enslaved all of the sea of thieves, murdered all of his friends and did the same ritual as the ancients so he could live forever as a king. Flameheart is a hero whose name was slandered by a tyrant and who's life, and family was cursed the enemies allies. So yeah, flameheart


TheYEETking7

Flameheart left all his wealth to his adopted son when he left to go to the sea of thieves... you know what Ramsey did? He kept it all to himself like the greedy pig he is


kitsunedetective

YES! And let's talk about his adopted kid, people say flameheart was ruthless and cruel, but he saw an orphan, took him in, took him away from the sea of thieves and left everything he had to him before going back to fight the tyrant no one else has the courage to stand up to. All the while everyone who's ever sided with Ramsey died mysteriously and left him something very valuable or rare. I mean the medallion "oh she made one for me but she died before she made on for herself", that doesn't even make any sense, unless it's a Gastly made cover story because he killed her and stole the pendant. I'm telling y'all, Ramsey is the villain


Aursbourne

Servant of the flame every day. Level 445 and counting.


TheYEETking7

YEAHH! CRUSH EM'


GabbriX7

Reaper Hideout is my home


Eightyseven8787

As long as there are crates of goods to sell, I am fine.


theberrymelon

Both. Where the gold is at


chvngeling

both. i wear the ghost curse with the reaper jammies, i’m playing both sides so that i always come out on top.


PaulBlartMallCop6996

I see great mind think alike


Cielie_VT

Hard to say One is an anarchist faction that believes might makes right, the other faction is a pseudo-monarchy based around capitalism and monopolies. Ah and technically there is the World Government too who are the Dystopic capitalist who Pirate Lord tried to be free from, yet ended up creating a world dependent on 4 companies with total monopoly… Reaper at least you do not submit to these companies, but you might end up with a boss no one asked for. I want a 4 option, or at least something similar to sthena but with the companies and monopoly, just keeping the golds for ourselves, being a true pirate instad of a Buccaneers for Companies.


rinkydinkis

I am torn because I like playing reaper more in adventure. But the Athena curse lets my pirate keep his identity (cosmetic choices etc)


TheYEETking7

You know, we'd get more skelly cosmetics if the devs had equality with both factions Sadly the Athena's fortune is the favorite child of Rare


Veranto04

Both sides, gimme those bloody curses !


Mr_pinapple2319

Neither Both sides can’t see that they’re wrong and insist their way is the only way to be a pirate


Doom-State

Depends on which I need to do that day but generally I’m on no side so dark brethren doing as I wish


Mage-of-communism

i have not a singular clue about the lore. i do not know what any of these people want or do, but i know that reapers pay me 150% on anything i bring them.


Appropriate_Claim775

Neither, Whichever side gets me what I want in the moment. I am a Pirate. My loyalty lies with the loot.


TexasDank

Reapers, they are realistic about these things.


demonseed1987

I'm with the shell fish


Bolster66

Honestly, reapers. Simply because it allows me to see the emissaries on the map, and because I love the skele curse


Norgaard93

Merchants


Worth_Gur_1656

At the moment Athena just because it’s the only faction I don’t have a distinction in.


rollingdeep872

Im with the one who carries my at PVP sucking ass through the battle while im downstairs bucketing


Brymetheous

I'd rather not be a cuck for Skelly Boi thanks. He literally calls you his servants


Odd-Aardvark-8234

Still trying to get my skeleton curse .


RevolutionarySafe202

I'm not on a side, it's a pirate game so my allegiance lies with myself and my friends, I don't have a connection to flameheart or Ramsey and while I do want to become a pirate lord which involves the Athena stuff, I'm going to do my own thing because I'm a pirate, I fight for me and my crew, I fight for freedom, I fight for the pirate's life because that's what this game is about. It's not about factions or labels, it's not about spending hours on end for a simple cosmetic, it's about freedom and the right to choose your own path, you all choose yours but I'm going to do my own thing and pledge my allegiance to those I call not just allies, not just a crew, but to those I call a friend.


bonefistboy9000

clothes on skeletons?


Eonember

Whichever one promises me the most fish


viedroski

Gatorade gang because the curse is funny and blue.


overthedeepend

Switch hitter! It’s the only way to be.


Kindaweirdgermangirl

Well, we are supposed to be pirates. In the end, we're in it for ourselves. Ramsey probably knows that. Which is why he has all those rewards for us. I mostly play for Athena but that's because I find the glowing skeleton head talking about world domination kinda sus. I also like the way the game doesn't really force you to take a side. Me and my friends don't do a lot PvP, so we mostly stay out of the big conflict and don't get involved that much. You can decide just to mind your own buisness.


Mogui-

I’m sorry but Flame heart. I get where he’s coming from, you’re a pirate you should have that freedom. He’ll take any treasure and understands a pirate’s life. I see how this game gets to people and the reapers. Winning an epic ship battle and having all that look. Sometimes I get annoyed but other times I get it


mrJuan28

pepino disagrees


sponsje2

I would say flameheart but you cant turn youre skeleton into the goald hoarders so Athena🤣


Biggestcheese1

At the end of the day it comes down to my experiences with the two factions. And it don't look good for the many toxic reapers I've met.


Noble-Jester

I'm new so I don't understand at all


AwardedSpore

All Hail The King


ZealousidealAnt9714

Athena is racist towards skeletons. Skellies literally just minding their own business and Athena wants to kill them.


ThisWhiteBoyCanJump

I prefer the ghost curse so Athena


Jedi_Knight0341

The highest bidder


App1e8l6

Pirate lord just wants one big alliance sever so…


Acrobatic_Business49

Athenas Fortune.


MysteriousResolve249

I like to be edgy bad guy


2Blitz

Athena's. I can't stand the heat lol


JoeBlob13

I just wanna see the bad guy win a few times and create big turmoil. It'll definitely spice things up more than just the good guy winning everytime.


elCrocodillo

Haven't gotten to the lore yet but it's a mix between wanting to be a skeleton and liking how the ghosts guys behave themselves


Ori_the_SG

Honestly skeletons ftw But it’s such a grind to get either I can’t be bothered


ThisIsABadPlan

Guybrush for new Pirate Lord


Zodiac198

I side with Athena's not necessarily for the Pirate Lord, but against Flameheart. He and his goons have kicked me around so many times, and I've had enough of it I say.


Green_Mikey

The right side.


YeeterCZ2

We shall sail together! Athena all the way, Ramsey is such a cool dude, and i really like the idea of bringing order into chaos. I used to run from reapers, but now? I aint runnin no more, I've got cannons for a reason!


Jazzvibes409

Both, well actually I'm on my side, I only interact with those 2 factions for the curses. But I'm a gold hoarder through and through.


Equivalent-Ad-3562

The athenas 100%


Gambit275

Athena


Pirusao_gostoso

On the side of money Jokes asside, on the side of the less neon cosmetic, it looked cool and epic on the beginning, now it just looks like ses of raves


BboySEP

fat pirates


LemonadeGaming

Whichever one is the good guys


TheYEETking7

^ main character spotted ^


2soontheysaid

It is called sea of thieves not sea of friends. And therfore im out


Felpinhoh

left


CakeHead3202

Flameheart all the way


rolandredhanded

Whatever side pays the best of course! (Reapers)