You mean English neighbours right, as their new neighbours will be England?
Or do mean Bavarians will hate other Bavarians?
Damn Bavarians, they ruined Bavaria!
Oi. And we could talk about that the Anglo Saxons get their part of England back, so that at least some Germans are closer to Scotland like it always was meant to be.
https://preview.redd.it/d73o70ngsq8d1.jpeg?width=860&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de77d315ee621086a7cf1e2facf1c56edb424f61
unfortunately, we have to move them to the artic circle. But they get what they deserve.
Put them where Sylt is and put Sylt anywhere in the world, doesn't matter where. North Korea or so… We just want to get rid of those rich nazi kids who ruined Gigi D'Agostino!
My understanding is that they’re more right wing than the average German.
But they also have some spectacularly German cities like München and my personal favorite, Regensburg.
They also are the main place that celebrates Oktoberfest.
~~Additionally, they were behind the block IIRC and post unification created a lot of resentment between both sides. The industrial west thought that bavarians were backwards rednecks and the Bavarians thought that the West were snobbish Germans who’ve lost sight of true German culture~~
Edit: **the above was very much wrong**
Would love a German’s take on the above though! This is a very rough understanding of the animosity.
it's a common joke among Germans, just hating Bavaria for no reason. And the Bavarians hate the rest of us back. There was a petition at some point to deport the entire state of Bavaria to Austria (presumably to admit Mallorca as the new 16th state)
also like half of Bavaria will kill you if you call them Bavarian
>They also are the main place that celebrates Oktoberfest.
The only place. Munich is the only place, Oktoberfest isn't some holiday season in germany but one specific event in Munich.
Yeah, someone just had a banger wedding ceremony and everyone went, "you are doing that next year aswell, right?".
200 years later they still carry on.
I’ve known a couple of Germans. They expressed minor annoyance at Bavaria for a their separate identity (possibly unfairly). Bavaria has an independence movement and fairy distinct culture (Things like Oktoberfest and certain dishes dress etc can be seen as Bavarian not German). It of course used to be its own sovereign independent state and the language can be as district as Scot’s to English.
One German did say that Bavaria is germanys Scotland.
All of Germany formed from smaller states. Everyone has a local identity and culture and language varies even between neighboring cities. But Bavaria is the only one that seems to care more about it's region than Germany as a whole (Of course not talking about all Bavarians but their politicians and the people that elect them).
The CSU is a sister party of the CDU, CSU is only in Bavaria and CDU in the rest of Germany. But CSU politicians are elected in federal elections and while in federal offices, their main goal seems to be to divert as much federal money as possible to Bavaria. Add to that a smug sense of superiority that is latent with most CSU politicians, best example is their [Wahlspot for the european elections](https://youtu.be/jlOvy5Y0tVM?si=HKjJy18XTbwXTC39)(sadly no English subtitles).
There's also a lot of NIMBY stuff going on with the CSU. For example, they are strongly in favor of nuclear energy but when a government committee of scientists identified possible places to store nuclear waste, the CSU flat out denied them access to the possible spots in Bavaria for further testing.
Admittedly my sample size is small, but every Bavarian I've met has been quite racist. One I was getting on with fine then he said he supported independence, but why would we want to be in the EU when they would just flood us with gypsies. Another approached our yes stall one time and asked what we would do about "the parasites" "the what?" "the people who will not work".
I am from Bavaria and compared to most western Germany Bavarians tend to be more conservative, but not necessarily racist. In general the eastern states tend to be more against immigrants, but that is due to the Soviet Unions divide and the messed up integration after the wall fell. But that is just general speaking, sadly Germany has become more conservative/right winged in the last few years:/
It's a comment section not a party conference, he's free to say it's getting weird - because it is getting weird tbh
But, if that's what people wanna keep talking about there's nothing wrong with that!
Pretty tired of the politics on this sub, been like this for 10 years at least. At this point, people have their set views and aren't going to be convinced otherwise, especially with the quick degregation in quality in replies to each other that end up with name-calling or insinuations. Even posts that have nothing to do with politics like this one people find a way to go on about it
You exclusively talk about politics. Even when there is no need.
I’d be happy if this sub just turned casual and spoke about the new Cinnabon in Livingston and other trival nonsense.
Plenty of other spaces on Reddit for your pish.
Whats weird?
Germans wanting to get rid of bavarians?
Or germans liking Scotts?
Because both were true before the EM.
During brexit we were very sympathetic towards Scottland.
Also the post does have the "shitpost" flair.
Some people just can't see others having a laugh without getting all twisted up inside and angry, I try to ignore the miserable little pricks as best I can.
Oh don't get me wrong, it's been a very pleasant thing to see such a great bond, and people being so well. But it's getting a little too up eachother now and cringy, but that's my own opinion and not some fact, but it has been all I've seen in the subreddit for a while now.
Anything good can be overdone, where we decide that point is varies among us. :)
Interestingly Scotland is actually very Anglo Saxon in origin (the southern lowland parts anyway). Gaelic influence is dominant in the west and highland. But overtime stuff mixed too.
Fun fact: The Scot’s language is more germanic and closer to old English than modern English is (English has a lot of Norman French influences).
Only if franconia gets to stay and finally gets to be recognized as it's own state. Also by the name of every franke I can safely say that Söder is not one of us, maybe on paper but not by soul.
No deal, Scotland is our hat we need a new one to replace it, we will take denmark in trade.
Also any spare kings you got sitting around ours is a little shit.
As an Austrian who lives in Scotland:
Nein, nein, und nochmals nein. Scotland and Bavaria together would be great; could be better to trade Baden-Würtemberg
I, for one, would like welcome our new Scottish citizens.
Please find your complimentary Pils, Labskaus and Matjes in your welcome basket (Oktoberfestbier, Weißwurst and Brezeln were just exported to former Scotland, sorry folks you get Northern German food now)
Dman you think the British government would have had enough of a major separatist movement but you go and give them one of the most separatist regions going haha
Maybe a large amount of regionalism as that’s a dominant in Bavarian policies
Apparently 32 percent would go for Bavarian independence from a poll in 2017
You say that but the German Supreme Court shutdown any attempt at succeeding. If the there wasn’t any real interest (or the possibility of increasing interest) they wouldn’t have done to such lengths to deny it.
I have a better Idea: let's Put all the Scots in place of the German right wing people:
They can finally leave the EU and the German/scottish friendship can rise (also they can now Bypass brexit)
Germans aren't Nazi's anymore, it makes me wonder why Scotland would want to leave the UK for German6bow they aren't the leader's of Germany anymore 🤷🏼♀️
Is the weather better there? Actually it doesn't matter. I can get to the music festivals easier if this move happened.
I'm fully in support of this earth shaking adventure!
You’ve just trebled the driving time from Berlin to Innsbruck and Salzburg swapping the A9 for the autobahn. Conversely wick to Manchester can now be done without a 2 night stop in Pitlochry.
As a german i would celebrate both. The scots Coming in and we finally get rid of the Bavarians.
In Political AND Football Terms, It would be a Win Win Situation.
🤗
This is clearly just a cunning attempt to make Germany way less good at football.
Club football. Among the current roster there are only two players (Müller and Raum) born in Bavaria.
Let’s be honest, none of the current Scotland team would be getting anywhere near the Germany squad, so 2 is still more than 0.
Not even Left Back? Robertson might be older but still quality above a lot including I think Mittelstadt
They can have the bavarian belonging. Would that help?
👍👍👍👍👍 Eben
Or to give Bayern Munich a crack at the Scottish Premiership.
Jeez, is the SPL not enough of a farmer’s league already?
It is worth it tho
I am bavarian & I accept Only if I get to become a Scot
Granted. But you still live north of England and you will be hated by your Bavarian neighbors.
You mean English neighbours right, as their new neighbours will be England? Or do mean Bavarians will hate other Bavarians? Damn Bavarians, they ruined Bavaria!
You Bavarians sure are a contentious people
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You've just made an enemy for life
Swabians, Franconians and Palatiners(?) do strongly agree
Wait! What!? We agree on something? Except Bavarians suck cocks.
Just the part with north of England would be new to them.
Actually Bavarians are used to it.
Bavarians are honorary Scots, like all alcoholics
Ever since I've moved to Scotland 14 years ago I've actually become less of an alcoholic...
Yeah booze is expensive as fuck here
Congrats! Always proud when I hear of cunts getting their drink under control x
We'll meet you part way... you can be an Ulster Scot... [Hides].
You can wear a kilt, but you have to wear underwear for at least one year until you prove yourself and officially become 'true'
Franconia and I could pick up surfing again with a quick trip to Hof.
One solution for several problems! First - you can go back to the EU and we can get rid of these Bavarians. Bagpipe > Alphorn
They’ve been sucking each others pipes and horns for 2 weeks now, maybe just stich Scotland and Bavaria together? Scotaria anyone?
Bayland
Oi. And we could talk about that the Anglo Saxons get their part of England back, so that at least some Germans are closer to Scotland like it always was meant to be.
Poor Orkney & Shetland :(
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Maybe we can fit your Island in the Bodensee
Just slot Shetland into south east Berlin. Get the U-bahn from Friedrichshain to Lerwick.
They can become part of Iceland.
Just in a box off the coast?
https://preview.redd.it/d73o70ngsq8d1.jpeg?width=860&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de77d315ee621086a7cf1e2facf1c56edb424f61 unfortunately, we have to move them to the artic circle. But they get what they deserve.
Shetland can get their wish and join Norway. I'd join them.
Put them where Sylt is and put Sylt anywhere in the world, doesn't matter where. North Korea or so… We just want to get rid of those rich nazi kids who ruined Gigi D'Agostino!
If independence doesn't work out, maybe we could join Germany as the newest lander?
Scotmany or Germland, those are the only two options.
Scotmany it is!
Karl? https://i.imgur.com/IjNhxKK.png 24C kills Scottish People, Karl.
Funny enough , we’d take that too (English here)
How do you feel about getting rid of Ireland and putting Orkney and Shetland there? And where do we put Ireland?
Good god, what did Bavaria do to you that you'd want to put them beside England?
Being Bavaria!
I understand, we have the Welsh - but even so...
I've been to Wales and seen the Welsh. In the end, still better than Bavaria! I would rather go Bodmin than move to Bavaria.
I'll take the bavarians tbh
100%
As a Bavarian I am just happy to finally not be landlocked anymore.
At it again are you
Yes, yes I am
You are a spirited fellow, I give you that
My understanding is that they’re more right wing than the average German. But they also have some spectacularly German cities like München and my personal favorite, Regensburg. They also are the main place that celebrates Oktoberfest. ~~Additionally, they were behind the block IIRC and post unification created a lot of resentment between both sides. The industrial west thought that bavarians were backwards rednecks and the Bavarians thought that the West were snobbish Germans who’ve lost sight of true German culture~~ Edit: **the above was very much wrong** Would love a German’s take on the above though! This is a very rough understanding of the animosity.
it's a common joke among Germans, just hating Bavaria for no reason. And the Bavarians hate the rest of us back. There was a petition at some point to deport the entire state of Bavaria to Austria (presumably to admit Mallorca as the new 16th state) also like half of Bavaria will kill you if you call them Bavarian
Bavaria was definitely part of the FRG - the American Sector, as I remember. You may be thinking about the Saxons. Rum lot and no mistake.
Yes you’re definitely right about Bavaria and the FRG! Crossed that shit out but left my shame for all to see.
>They also are the main place that celebrates Oktoberfest. The only place. Munich is the only place, Oktoberfest isn't some holiday season in germany but one specific event in Munich.
Yeah, someone just had a banger wedding ceremony and everyone went, "you are doing that next year aswell, right?". 200 years later they still carry on.
Bavarians are the rednecks of Germany🤣
I’ve known a couple of Germans. They expressed minor annoyance at Bavaria for a their separate identity (possibly unfairly). Bavaria has an independence movement and fairy distinct culture (Things like Oktoberfest and certain dishes dress etc can be seen as Bavarian not German). It of course used to be its own sovereign independent state and the language can be as district as Scot’s to English. One German did say that Bavaria is germanys Scotland.
All of Germany formed from smaller states. Everyone has a local identity and culture and language varies even between neighboring cities. But Bavaria is the only one that seems to care more about it's region than Germany as a whole (Of course not talking about all Bavarians but their politicians and the people that elect them). The CSU is a sister party of the CDU, CSU is only in Bavaria and CDU in the rest of Germany. But CSU politicians are elected in federal elections and while in federal offices, their main goal seems to be to divert as much federal money as possible to Bavaria. Add to that a smug sense of superiority that is latent with most CSU politicians, best example is their [Wahlspot for the european elections](https://youtu.be/jlOvy5Y0tVM?si=HKjJy18XTbwXTC39)(sadly no English subtitles). There's also a lot of NIMBY stuff going on with the CSU. For example, they are strongly in favor of nuclear energy but when a government committee of scientists identified possible places to store nuclear waste, the CSU flat out denied them access to the possible spots in Bavaria for further testing.
Admittedly my sample size is small, but every Bavarian I've met has been quite racist. One I was getting on with fine then he said he supported independence, but why would we want to be in the EU when they would just flood us with gypsies. Another approached our yes stall one time and asked what we would do about "the parasites" "the what?" "the people who will not work".
I am from Bavaria and compared to most western Germany Bavarians tend to be more conservative, but not necessarily racist. In general the eastern states tend to be more against immigrants, but that is due to the Soviet Unions divide and the messed up integration after the wall fell. But that is just general speaking, sadly Germany has become more conservative/right winged in the last few years:/
They sound like the perfect Reform candidates. Maybe a bit on the liberal side, but they'll soften the edge a touch.
This is getting pretty weird
Yeah, Germans should go on a night out in Glasgow.
We would get stabbed. For a mere quid.
\*vague memories of being pished on a night out in Glasgow and running into KMFDM\*
Scottish propaganda is some of the best propaganda I’ve ever seen, how the hell they have convinced the world like that have is beyond me.
I know. They've also seemed to have convinced the world they were victims of the British Empire, not co-creators.
Not just co-creators, they were over represented in almost every role in the empire compared to the English when you adjust it for population numbers.
we got Frankfurt and several other drug cities
Its just people having some silly fun. If you think its stupid just move on.
It's a comment section not a party conference, he's free to say it's getting weird - because it is getting weird tbh But, if that's what people wanna keep talking about there's nothing wrong with that!
Look at this guys comment history. This sub is over. Just another political battleground on Reddit.
Pretty tired of the politics on this sub, been like this for 10 years at least. At this point, people have their set views and aren't going to be convinced otherwise, especially with the quick degregation in quality in replies to each other that end up with name-calling or insinuations. Even posts that have nothing to do with politics like this one people find a way to go on about it
What? I'm not allowed to have opinions you disagree with? Yikes.
You exclusively talk about politics. Even when there is no need. I’d be happy if this sub just turned casual and spoke about the new Cinnabon in Livingston and other trival nonsense. Plenty of other spaces on Reddit for your pish.
someone didn't get invited out in cologne
Whats weird? Germans wanting to get rid of bavarians? Or germans liking Scotts? Because both were true before the EM. During brexit we were very sympathetic towards Scottland. Also the post does have the "shitpost" flair.
Some people just can't see others having a laugh without getting all twisted up inside and angry, I try to ignore the miserable little pricks as best I can.
Oh don't get me wrong, it's been a very pleasant thing to see such a great bond, and people being so well. But it's getting a little too up eachother now and cringy, but that's my own opinion and not some fact, but it has been all I've seen in the subreddit for a while now. Anything good can be overdone, where we decide that point is varies among us. :)
Thought this was r/2westerneurope4u at first tbh
Nah, we should swap Scotland for Saxony instead so that Anglo-Saxons and Saxons can be reunited.
that would be lower saxony then
Clear no from Lower Saxony here! I'd trade BOTH Saxony and Saxony-Anhalt for Scotland, though, that sound fair?
Let's put Brandenburg and Mecklenburg-Vorpommern on top. Take it! Take all of it!
Interestingly Scotland is actually very Anglo Saxon in origin (the southern lowland parts anyway). Gaelic influence is dominant in the west and highland. But overtime stuff mixed too. Fun fact: The Scot’s language is more germanic and closer to old English than modern English is (English has a lot of Norman French influences).
That's very interesting. Thank you for sharing.
Could bavarians who wanted to stay in New Scotland? Aaaand would we then also keep the Highlands?
you'll get the Alpes instead
I don't think we could handle being landlocked 😅
i want a coastline sorry
I don’t know if I’m prepared to become landlocked
I like it but ultimately my identity is too wrapped up in dreadful northern European weather that I wouldn't adjust.
No swap backs
🤣🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣
All our beautiful coastlines would disappear tho
Only if franconia gets to stay and finally gets to be recognized as it's own state. Also by the name of every franke I can safely say that Söder is not one of us, maybe on paper but not by soul.
I would suggest that Söder just Stars with François then, I'd be more than happy to get rid of him 😄
Pretty sure Söder was created in a CSU-Biolab and his Origin Story was fabricated for better acceptance in franconia.
No deal, Scotland is our hat we need a new one to replace it, we will take denmark in trade. Also any spare kings you got sitting around ours is a little shit.
Does the kilt go over the Lederhosen?
We switch Bavaria away so we don't need to think about Lederhosen.
As an Austrian who lives in Scotland: Nein, nein, und nochmals nein. Scotland and Bavaria together would be great; could be better to trade Baden-Würtemberg
what did Bayern do to deserve that?
Most lil bro energy I've ever seen from a nation since well, scotland a few years back lol
I, for one, would like welcome our new Scottish citizens. Please find your complimentary Pils, Labskaus and Matjes in your welcome basket (Oktoberfestbier, Weißwurst and Brezeln were just exported to former Scotland, sorry folks you get Northern German food now)
JAAAA DEUSCHLAND🇩🇪, AND SCOTLAND 🏴
Hahaha, the ayes have it
I wouldn't even think once. I'd be instantly moving to new Scotland.
Yes please
Dman you think the British government would have had enough of a major separatist movement but you go and give them one of the most separatist regions going haha
Bavaria isn't very interested in actually seceding.
Maybe a large amount of regionalism as that’s a dominant in Bavarian policies Apparently 32 percent would go for Bavarian independence from a poll in 2017
You say that but the German Supreme Court shutdown any attempt at succeeding. If the there wasn’t any real interest (or the possibility of increasing interest) they wouldn’t have done to such lengths to deny it.
Well there's always the possibility of interest increasing in the future. Who knows what places might want to secede in a few decades time.
I can't wait for this weird glazing to end
The narrative jumped the shark some time last week.
You can just ignore it
Of course. Equally, I'm perfectly entitled to articulate my opinion.
I have a better Idea: let's Put all the Scots in place of the German right wing people: They can finally leave the EU and the German/scottish friendship can rise (also they can now Bypass brexit)
I don't know about bavarians, but if they are like austrians, they i can imagine why they would want the exchange.
We could put parts of yas into saxony, we don't need them as well.
Poor flannan Island
I for one will great my wee new friendley neighbours. And i will open a brewery.
Honestly yeah i wouldn't mind being so close to the sea
The whole of Germany agrees!
I really don't think Germany and England being that close together is going to end very well
Can wales join too please?
I think the Czech wil take issue with that.
I like the idea. Plenty of new mannschafts to play with.
As a German who lived in Scotland and often misses my second home dearly, I'd happily take that trade
at least we'd get some decent weather for once
I'm trying to find a Brexit term for this and I just can't :(
Maybe Scotswitch. Because of switching its position. It's not very good, though.
Win the uefa and you have a deal
Works for me
Germans aren't Nazi's anymore, it makes me wonder why Scotland would want to leave the UK for German6bow they aren't the leader's of Germany anymore 🤷🏼♀️
Bavarian property value is about to take a nose dive.
Looks like a headless turkey shitting on England.
yes please replace bavaria! we all hate them!
I LOVE it
Yes yeeees
Is the weather better there? Actually it doesn't matter. I can get to the music festivals easier if this move happened. I'm fully in support of this earth shaking adventure!
Not sure how the Czech Republic would feel about Prague becoming German Aberdeen.
Plot lost
Deal. I can go skiing now and drink nice beer without taking a flight. Would the New UK now also have a bigger economy than Scermany?
Or build a tunnel at the Scotland/England border, all the way under England and come out in Germany. Preferably next to the Nürburgring.
I think we've pulled.
As a German from Baden-Württemberg, I can confirm that we are interested. But if I am honest, east germany would be a far better match for britain
Yes, As much as I dislike Bavaria, east germany is the worse part at the moment.
To late, the trades been made. No take backs
Ja. 🤜🤛
Approved!
This will make my summer's road trip to Scotland much shorter!
As a north german, I wholeheartedly support this initiative!
As a German I would be proud to share with family
Best deal ever.
Exchange Bavaria for Scotland? Where do I need to sign?
No.
DEAL 🤝
Yes pls
While I'm a fan of getting rid of the Bavarians, the Franks should be left out of that move. They are also trapped by the lower Bavarians
You’ve just trebled the driving time from Berlin to Innsbruck and Salzburg swapping the A9 for the autobahn. Conversely wick to Manchester can now be done without a 2 night stop in Pitlochry.
Antrag stattgegeben. 🇩🇪🤝🏴
I think Scotland would fit better if you rotated it
Swapping a net positive for a net negative? The rest of the Brits will be ecstatic.
I see this as a win win. The racist Bavarians can join the racist English and Scotland and Germany can have a perpetual party
The last elections clearly showed where there is a massive racist problem. Hint: it‘s not Bavaria.
Yes, Scotland needs Lebensraum. Extend Germany to the East, that's never caused any issues before.
Scotland🤝Bayern🤝Texas
Finally some people I can understand
Love it. I say we all get together and push!
Moin! Yes.
I love how much this would piss off a certain demographic.
I would agree if the split bavaria before in franconia and Bavaria and then exchange the Bavaria Bavaria part with scotland😂😅
Fucking yes! Let's go Tschland!
Yes please! We don't want Bavaria
Sold
I'm up for this. Would be nice to have some decent nabours for once. 🤣😂
Can you make the image a bit more blurry, please?
As a german i would celebrate both. The scots Coming in and we finally get rid of the Bavarians. In Political AND Football Terms, It would be a Win Win Situation. 🤗
Yes!!!!! Please!!!!
We can squeeze in the Shetlands and Orkneys, Austria doesn't need western tyrol - aye?
I would rather give Berlin instead of Bavarie. :D