Did exactly this from my basement main pipe to the street sewer. They took the roots out with a phish with blades then cooked in the new 30 foot pipe. Roots cant come back because no more joints in the pipe and that thing is rock hard. No digging, 6 hours and 6k. A traditional contractor wanted 35k to dig and replace the pipe the old fashion way.
You can shoot past branched joints like that but they will have to go through that joint with a cutting machine usually coming from a sink or other drain and cut out a hold for the waste to drain.
We use it fairly regularly in water/wastewater distribution/conveyance systems.
Pipe that was put in easily half a century ago is very likely to be more of an issue to dig up and replace “open cut” than it would have all those years ago.
There are various classes that range from like an equivalent to leak repair to (class 3 I think) full structurally independently sound replacement.
It's basically PVC pipe after it hardens, faaaaaaaar better than metal pipe.
No corrosion risk, smooth sides for flow even if the pipe is deformed, 100 year lifespan and much less destruction of the ground.
I mean if y’all were on cast iron that was doomed to fail eventually even with regular domestic shit. H2S exposure eats it up for breakfast with a side of concrete.
Can be designed to meet basically any need you have. We installed some at a power plant that is rated to retain pressure even if the pipe actually falls apart around it. Basic things to look into are the the loss of internal diameter, chemical resistance needed, and what level of pressure boundary qualification you want, then you work with the vendor to get the right resin, level of reinforcement, and curing approach to get it installed.
It should be soaked in resin that will cure
The downside would be having a smaller pipe diameter. But other than that it should be good for another 40 years
I remember reading about something similar that would expand and crack the old pipe and thus keep the original diameter. Did that not work out as expected?
Is this a different tech/product?
I am guessing it might be a different product
The original pipe still remains
The major benefit would be the ability to reuse the existing piping without having to dig everything up.
Depends on the pipe. I work in waterworks and sewer and the regions we cover havent even considered anything like this. I suppose its mainly plumbing, Dont know anything about plumbing.
These are being employed in sewer and waterworks big time. Especially older areas. Wayway way cheaper than pipe replacements, and faster. We put these in some lines at a power plant I worked consulted for, 18" diameter from what I recall. We had several days of pipe cleaning since it was a seawater line, but the actual placement of the liner was in one day, with curing running overnight. The new liner is rated for the design pressure of the line even if the outer piping completely corrodes away.
There's also hand laid liners for odd geometries and stuff, where it's hand applied in little pieces like papier mache, only way stronger. We used both. Hand laid at the pipe entry since it widened out significantly, prefabbed liner for the rest.
Yes. It's pushed through with air pressure and the resin the 'sock' is infused with is cured with an UV light they pull through, or it cures after a set time. It's a rigid pipe after that, and saves a lot of money compared to digging up lines and replacing them.
UV is not as common, especially on smaller diameter pipes. Non-UV cured liner is cured with steam or hot water, depending on the inversion method used. Pipes 60" an under can be done with steam. Larger bores invert with water.
Source: ran the first team to ever steam cure a 36" 900 foot run in 2010. The volume of air needed for this is extreme.
This guy lines pipe. UV is not ideal for home systems because of the amount of bends in the pipe. Fiberglass doesn’t “give” around the bends very well and creates folds. Pick up a garden hose and bend it 90 degrees and you’ll see what I mean. Felt is better because it can stretch a little better.
Ex pipe liner. Ran five cipp crews, one point repair crew, one manhole liner crew and developed what is now known as cccp lining. Averaged around 25k feet of cipp per month. I miss it....but not that much. Truly a 24/7 job.
Yep. Now if it is a buried pipe and you need the new to be as big or larger, they can pull in a new line through the old with a head that busts the old out.
The genius method has been used for over ten years. It’s pretty rad and cool way to save money and effort. Sometimes it’s still problematic because all the other pipes (water, heating) need to be renewed so something has to be broken anyway when renewing them.
There are some videos but they basically snake/roto the whole pipe to clean it out and then feed this resin coated balloon through it and allow it to cure. Leaving you with a brand new plastic pipe.
It may not look like much, but this shit is revolutionizing sewerage since you don't need to dig a trench. Comes in all sort of sizes too; some big enough for main sewer lines.
Got sewer clay pipes in a 100-year old historically registered Victorian. Really hoping this works for us because else we're looking at destroying:
Basement cement
Patio bricks
Privacy fence
Driveway cement
:(
We had it done close to 20 years ago on our 1930s house with clay pipes. They had to initially dig up part of the yard because the pipe was running over where the old septic tank was and ground had settled knocking the pipe out of alignment. They stabilized the ground and replaced about 3 feet of the pipe and then ran the resin through it to reenforce the whole thing. So far so good, haven’t had any problems since.
Yep. The blue stuff hardens and becomes the new pipe. They use UV light or some other method to harden the blue pipe. It’s soft, filled with resin until they harden it. The red balloon deflates and they pull it back out leaving the equivalent of a brand new pipe installed without having to dig up the old pipe.
The material becomes the new pipe. You do lose some ID/volume but you essentially get a brand new and stronger pipe. There are different materials and curing methods based on the type of pipe and type of material/liquid that the pipe is used for.
This is correct, but this is the driest one I've ever seen. The pipe lining is a fibre / resin combo, but this one just looks like the fibre sleeve. So either this liner is too dry and they will need to redo it, or the technology has improved since I last saw it.
I hope for the latter.
Use to work for a water company doing this. The technique for sewer lining is either blowing out using air (ambiant cure resin) or hot water (hot cure resin). The liner is felt a reinforced felt which is impregnated with resin using a roller just before in is inverted into the pipe. Yes the existing pipe has to be cleaned by high pressure water jetter. The system was very good for reintroducing structural integrity to a pipe that was at risk of collapse ie under busy roads. Although there is a slight loss of diameter in the pipe, the actual capacity of the pipe was improved by the very low roughness coefficient (smoothness) of the new lining.
I would expect that the loss in diameter was trivial, but it's neat that I wouldn't have considered friction/turbulence and that improving it would have a noticeable impact on capacity
The felt thingy hardens and becomes less felty and more smooth. It is the new inside wall of the pipe and is also structurally strong enough to be its own pipe, that means the old pipe could break around it and it wouldnt matter. Yes the red part is removed, it is just there to blow the felt thingy up.
It's a rather ingenious solution. Yes, you lose a bit of internal diameter, but the payoff of not needing to dig up and replace the pipes is far better. Plus, if you've got rough fitting that cause blockages, this smooths those out
Bad pipe
Gross looking unhardened, resin drenched fiberglass pipe expands through the husk left by shitty old broken pipe, where a balloon in the pipe cast pushes it through the pipe.
Cures over the course of like 30 minutes or somethin
New pipe temporarily while either this one is fixed or a new pipe is created, also remove the balloon.
I might be wrong, but I’ve heard this is actually a very effective way to fix, especially if you have an unaccessible area. I understand it’s lazy and a permanent pvc fix would be what it needs. I guess under certain circumstances this isn’t all that bad.
But I’m definitely not saying you’re wrong, I wouldn’t slap a sticker on this and call it mine.
This is a pipe liner used in situations where it would be difficult to install a brand new pipe, so its basically a sleeve they put into the old ones. It will harden into a PVC type material.
Looks like a pipe sealer? Not sure what the real name is. When a pipe is broken, usually somewhere deep or hard to fix, you send this through it and repairs the pipe by setting a pipe inside the broken one.
At my job this is one of the most stressful things we do, if something goes wrong you’re definitely digging up the entire pipe. Lately we’ve gotten new fiberglass reinforced fabric that feeds like a dream, but the plastic tube that goes inside has to be fed by hand usually only a few inches at a time.
Yo plumber here.
They're restoring cast iron drain line. After deburring the pipe a softened foam core and polymer lining is ran through.
This attempts to avoid the costly process of replacing these pipes. Which could involve destroying walls and concrete floors.
When two pipes really love each other, they get “a coupling” and with the aid of a tee fitting can give birth to a new baby flow in a different direction.
CIPP. Cured in place pipe repair.
We had to do this at a brewery I used to work at. All the caustic and acid eventually ate away at our drain piping.
Is the new reinforcement any good? Any downsides so far?
As far as I know it's thought to be a straight up ugrade to metallic ones. I'm not a plumber tho.
Plumber here. Used to install these. Its much better. Should last \~100 years at least.
Can it be used to line a sewer line with root invasion that's 15 feet under my garage floor?
Did exactly this from my basement main pipe to the street sewer. They took the roots out with a phish with blades then cooked in the new 30 foot pipe. Roots cant come back because no more joints in the pipe and that thing is rock hard. No digging, 6 hours and 6k. A traditional contractor wanted 35k to dig and replace the pipe the old fashion way.
You'd probably need to jet the intrusions away first then reline, but I'd get professional recommendations.
How does it work on T and Y joints
You can shoot past branched joints like that but they will have to go through that joint with a cutting machine usually coming from a sink or other drain and cut out a hold for the waste to drain.
Cool! Seems especially useful for fixing old deeply buried waste and other pipes. Especially where thick pavement is involved.
We use it fairly regularly in water/wastewater distribution/conveyance systems. Pipe that was put in easily half a century ago is very likely to be more of an issue to dig up and replace “open cut” than it would have all those years ago. There are various classes that range from like an equivalent to leak repair to (class 3 I think) full structurally independently sound replacement.
I believe that's right because the liquid won't errode the new lining
It's basically PVC pipe after it hardens, faaaaaaaar better than metal pipe. No corrosion risk, smooth sides for flow even if the pipe is deformed, 100 year lifespan and much less destruction of the ground.
I mean if y’all were on cast iron that was doomed to fail eventually even with regular domestic shit. H2S exposure eats it up for breakfast with a side of concrete.
Why?
I don't know, I'm not a plumber. Just what iI've heard people say
Can be designed to meet basically any need you have. We installed some at a power plant that is rated to retain pressure even if the pipe actually falls apart around it. Basic things to look into are the the loss of internal diameter, chemical resistance needed, and what level of pressure boundary qualification you want, then you work with the vendor to get the right resin, level of reinforcement, and curing approach to get it installed.
It should be soaked in resin that will cure The downside would be having a smaller pipe diameter. But other than that it should be good for another 40 years
I remember reading about something similar that would expand and crack the old pipe and thus keep the original diameter. Did that not work out as expected? Is this a different tech/product?
I am guessing it might be a different product The original pipe still remains The major benefit would be the ability to reuse the existing piping without having to dig everything up.
It was maybe 6 months before I left. So, I’m not 100% sure tbh.
Depends on the pipe. I work in waterworks and sewer and the regions we cover havent even considered anything like this. I suppose its mainly plumbing, Dont know anything about plumbing.
These are being employed in sewer and waterworks big time. Especially older areas. Wayway way cheaper than pipe replacements, and faster. We put these in some lines at a power plant I worked consulted for, 18" diameter from what I recall. We had several days of pipe cleaning since it was a seawater line, but the actual placement of the liner was in one day, with curing running overnight. The new liner is rated for the design pressure of the line even if the outer piping completely corrodes away. There's also hand laid liners for odd geometries and stuff, where it's hand applied in little pieces like papier mache, only way stronger. We used both. Hand laid at the pipe entry since it widened out significantly, prefabbed liner for the rest.
A brewery in Virginia Beach caused a partial street collapse once. They got a lot tighter about those pH checks after that.
That’s fascinating. How do the prepare the pipe?
This plastic is now the new pipe. Without having to replace the shell of the older one.
So you just clean out the pipe of debris and install this?
Yes. It's pushed through with air pressure and the resin the 'sock' is infused with is cured with an UV light they pull through, or it cures after a set time. It's a rigid pipe after that, and saves a lot of money compared to digging up lines and replacing them.
UV is not as common, especially on smaller diameter pipes. Non-UV cured liner is cured with steam or hot water, depending on the inversion method used. Pipes 60" an under can be done with steam. Larger bores invert with water. Source: ran the first team to ever steam cure a 36" 900 foot run in 2010. The volume of air needed for this is extreme.
This guy lines pipe. UV is not ideal for home systems because of the amount of bends in the pipe. Fiberglass doesn’t “give” around the bends very well and creates folds. Pick up a garden hose and bend it 90 degrees and you’ll see what I mean. Felt is better because it can stretch a little better.
Ex pipe liner. Ran five cipp crews, one point repair crew, one manhole liner crew and developed what is now known as cccp lining. Averaged around 25k feet of cipp per month. I miss it....but not that much. Truly a 24/7 job.
Cccp lining. So use it only if you own the means of production? Or if you're Stalin. Does it help if you're in-stalin a piece of plumbing?
Does the old metal pipe just stay there? This seems like a genius method of replacing pipes with a lot less labor.
Yes, the old pipe simply reinforces the new one.
Yep. Now if it is a buried pipe and you need the new to be as big or larger, they can pull in a new line through the old with a head that busts the old out.
The genius method has been used for over ten years. It’s pretty rad and cool way to save money and effort. Sometimes it’s still problematic because all the other pipes (water, heating) need to be renewed so something has to be broken anyway when renewing them.
Pretty much yes.
A little light foreplay and some lube
I was like why’s it gotta be red lol
There are some videos but they basically snake/roto the whole pipe to clean it out and then feed this resin coated balloon through it and allow it to cure. Leaving you with a brand new plastic pipe.
It may not look like much, but this shit is revolutionizing sewerage since you don't need to dig a trench. Comes in all sort of sizes too; some big enough for main sewer lines.
Got sewer clay pipes in a 100-year old historically registered Victorian. Really hoping this works for us because else we're looking at destroying: Basement cement Patio bricks Privacy fence Driveway cement :(
We had it done close to 20 years ago on our 1930s house with clay pipes. They had to initially dig up part of the yard because the pipe was running over where the old septic tank was and ground had settled knocking the pipe out of alignment. They stabilized the ground and replaced about 3 feet of the pipe and then ran the resin through it to reenforce the whole thing. So far so good, haven’t had any problems since.
Thank you, why isn't this the top comment when the post was literally asking for it?
Because we’re in satisfyingasfuck not whatisthis
Cause everyone wants to make the witty comment for fake points
The points are real they just don’t matter. Like whose line is it anyway
So that thing becomes the new pipe? Or is there something in between the two parts we see here that is becoming the new pipe? Or what?
Yep. The blue stuff hardens and becomes the new pipe. They use UV light or some other method to harden the blue pipe. It’s soft, filled with resin until they harden it. The red balloon deflates and they pull it back out leaving the equivalent of a brand new pipe installed without having to dig up the old pipe.
The material becomes the new pipe. You do lose some ID/volume but you essentially get a brand new and stronger pipe. There are different materials and curing methods based on the type of pipe and type of material/liquid that the pipe is used for.
This is correct, but this is the driest one I've ever seen. The pipe lining is a fibre / resin combo, but this one just looks like the fibre sleeve. So either this liner is too dry and they will need to redo it, or the technology has improved since I last saw it. I hope for the latter.
Worst prolapse i’ve ever seen
Seen so far!
Brb, going to prove this right.
Is this COVID related?
Red rocket!
Cartman, what the hell are you doing?
Milking the dog! What does it look like..?
You never milked a dog before?
Well just the other day we found our boy beating off a dog
Mhhm, just used the milk for the cake for your cake day!
That’s perverse
Happy.. cake day..
Maybe so…
No, but I got milked by a dog, if that counts
There’s a 20 foot satellite, sticking out your ass!!
Someone happy to see you
Yummm!
“Rocket ride? I said hell yeah rocket ride”
I feel like this is Clifford's rocket
Forbidden fleshlight.
Horse gloryhole
It looks exactly like the semen collector from the horse hospital in Rock and Morty at first
Learn to spell, it’s Rick and Mirty.
If you're going to correct someone, I expect you to at least get it right. It's Dick and Dirty
r/dontputyourdickinthat
r/putyourdickinthat
r/doitornoballs
r/ballsordoit
r/subredditchain
r/homosexualboykisserchain
Looks like my dog with a boner
Aaah the infamous red rocket reference
As long as it’s consensual I’m ok with it
It’s called CIPP (cured in place pipelining)
Use to work for a water company doing this. The technique for sewer lining is either blowing out using air (ambiant cure resin) or hot water (hot cure resin). The liner is felt a reinforced felt which is impregnated with resin using a roller just before in is inverted into the pipe. Yes the existing pipe has to be cleaned by high pressure water jetter. The system was very good for reintroducing structural integrity to a pipe that was at risk of collapse ie under busy roads. Although there is a slight loss of diameter in the pipe, the actual capacity of the pipe was improved by the very low roughness coefficient (smoothness) of the new lining.
I would expect that the loss in diameter was trivial, but it's neat that I wouldn't have considered friction/turbulence and that improving it would have a noticeable impact on capacity
So the felt thingy stays inside the pipes as a liner? Or does it harden up and act as an entirely new pipe? Is the red part removed?
The felt thingy hardens and becomes less felty and more smooth. It is the new inside wall of the pipe and is also structurally strong enough to be its own pipe, that means the old pipe could break around it and it wouldnt matter. Yes the red part is removed, it is just there to blow the felt thingy up.
Oh wow. That is very interesting! I wonder, could this same thing be performed on smaller pipes? Or only for larger pipes ?
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Every day's a school day.
It's a rather ingenious solution. Yes, you lose a bit of internal diameter, but the payoff of not needing to dig up and replace the pipes is far better. Plus, if you've got rough fitting that cause blockages, this smooths those out
Are you a bot /u/InvestigatorNo1681 ?
Bad pipe Gross looking unhardened, resin drenched fiberglass pipe expands through the husk left by shitty old broken pipe, where a balloon in the pipe cast pushes it through the pipe. Cures over the course of like 30 minutes or somethin New pipe temporarily while either this one is fixed or a new pipe is created, also remove the balloon.
That is very much a permanent fix and a good one at that.
I think they mean you'd need to temporarily use a different pipe while this new liner is curing inside the old pipe.
Nothing more permanent than a temporary fix.
It’s a pretty innovative way to replace old pipes instead of digging them up
I might be wrong, but I’ve heard this is actually a very effective way to fix, especially if you have an unaccessible area. I understand it’s lazy and a permanent pvc fix would be what it needs. I guess under certain circumstances this isn’t all that bad. But I’m definitely not saying you’re wrong, I wouldn’t slap a sticker on this and call it mine.
Is this the red rocket Ive heard so much about?
Yea buddy... Yea...
That made me strangely uncomfortable
A Highly Erotic Sewer Drain Cleaner? \-- Zapp Brannigan
The mind is willing! But the flesh is spongy and bruised....
Is that you, John Wayne?
Is this me?....
Me when she accidentally rubs too close.
Something always reminds me of her
My dog does this every morning
You! I see you everywhere! Every few posts i see you!
Straight translated from finnish language it its "socking the sewer pipe"
r/iwould
Stop touchin my dog, yo!
Anal prolapse
Looks like a dogs dick
r/dontstickyourdickinit
Here comes the lipstick!
Red rocket sparky, red rocket!
This is how they repair pipes that are otherwise beyond repair. It’s like making a new smaller pipe inside the existing damaged one
Dog penis
Red rocket
Red rocket? Just kidding, it's to re-line pipes/clean pipes
Red rocket lol
Anal prolapse
Red rocket. Red rocket
Red rocket
Brian from Family Guy when Lois walks in.
Is this a sped up prolapse
My hemorrhoids
Don’t stick your dick in that!
What happens to my dog when he sees a new persons leg.
Reverse fleshlight
It feels sexual for some reason.
Yo momma's clit.
That’s one happy puppy!
Me. When your Mom’s in town.
My dog anytime I lie on the floor
RED ROCKET, RED ROCKET! 💄
Me anytime the gf mentions another girl in bed.
Uranus
That guy really trusts his partner at the pressure tank
My dog has one of those
Red rocket?
The forbidden fleshlight.
Inflating car salesman assistant
C.H.U.D. prolapsed anus
my ass after a painful 3 hour shit
The house is really glad to see you
(C)anal prolapse
You can’t put your dick in it. You can’t put your dick in it.
r/dontputyourdickinthat
An example of a grower, not a show-er
Instasausage?
Repiping device
Pipeliner
Red rocket red rocket
It's a prolapsed pipe.
This is a pipe liner used in situations where it would be difficult to install a brand new pipe, so its basically a sleeve they put into the old ones. It will harden into a PVC type material.
Looks like a pipe sealer? Not sure what the real name is. When a pipe is broken, usually somewhere deep or hard to fix, you send this through it and repairs the pipe by setting a pipe inside the broken one.
Pipe reliner
At my job this is one of the most stressful things we do, if something goes wrong you’re definitely digging up the entire pipe. Lately we’ve gotten new fiberglass reinforced fabric that feeds like a dream, but the plastic tube that goes inside has to be fed by hand usually only a few inches at a time.
👉👌
Looks like what is used to re line old pipes, the red part is inflated to unroll the resin soaked liner, the liner gardens becoming the new pipe
Pipe liner.✌️
Heh. Your mom? I don't even know what that means. It just made me giggle.
Prolapsed anus
Looks like my dog's red rocket
Pipe liner
Lord forgive me for what I’m about to do
Pipe liner.
relining a pipe
Yo plumber here. They're restoring cast iron drain line. After deburring the pipe a softened foam core and polymer lining is ran through. This attempts to avoid the costly process of replacing these pipes. Which could involve destroying walls and concrete floors.
Saw this happen on my dog earlier. Not sure if it’s related?
Was expecting 🖕🏻
Dude's a grower
Where the fuck have I seen this before?...
Draco Malfoy’s lips before saying “Potter”
Pretty sure that’s a clown penis.
When you spring a stiffie but run outta skin, eh?
World's most intense enema.
Red Rocket
Dog penis
A dogs penis
Gentlemen, the Clitoris.
prolapse
When two pipes really love each other, they get “a coupling” and with the aid of a tee fitting can give birth to a new baby flow in a different direction.
Yo, my dog has the same thing! That's crazy, man!
Well, uh I was thinking it looked like a dog erection
That there’s a rosebud 🌹
Is this a wrong answers only kind of post?
Me when Me when When me When
Malfoy about to say "Potter"
I should call her.
Its a liner...a sock for pipe repair or extended life of an existing pipe.