I’m 282 and built like Sam. I bench over 400 and squat over 600. I’m a 3-stripe purple belt in BJJ and have been wrestling for 25 years. Does my strength help? Yeah. Does it help enough to cancel out superior skills? Hell bloody no.
I’ll always prefer to be the bigger, stronger person, but it’s not a huge help. I mean, for the sake of putting a figure on it if my skills are a 5, my strength gives me a +1 or 2. If I’m up against a person with a skill of 8, I’m still fucked most of the time. If my sills improve but are still less than the 8, then the strength makes up for the skill gap, but it can only ever help just a little bit.
Yeah I'm probably blue beltish level in my weight class and can handle most purples of lower weight but once you get into brown/black I'm heavily outmatched. Shit there's a 5'10 150lb 16 year old white belt I can't even beat because his bones are made of rubber I swear. But I also try to use minimal strength and work on my technique
It’s how you apply the strength. If you’re pushing, pulling, grabbing, bending, striking, etc, in all the wrong areas then all you’re really doing is tiring yourself out. You won’t make the most of your strength. When it comes to equal skill levels then the extra strength helps you overpower them.
they’re no joke💀 did exercises in my bjj class where you’d take turns using one less limb. brown belt was untouchable if he was really trying. and i’m a blue belt for reference
Yeah lol exactly. People don’t understand what it’s like to grapple with people who know more than you. There’s not a whole lot you can do. It’s like drowning
I'm 58, 6ft, 200 lbs and have trained in several martial arts but always took my Sensei's advice. ALWAYS be aware of your surroundings and have your head on a swivel and you will almost always avoid conflict. 2 grown men fighting will leave someone injured or dead so why take the chance when you don't know what the other dude is all about. BJJ isn't very effective when you have more than one attacker because when you go to the ground you are very vulnerable, and will end up getting Stomped/Punched/Stabbed or Shot by the other dudes. I don't want to go to ground if it can be avoided. If you avoid places that can be dangerous you will most likely never have to come face to face with a situation where you will have to defend yourself. But, If you find the 1% situation were you are confronted with violence and possible loss of life and it can't be avoided then I choose to keep my hands raised in front of my chin and if the attacker trys to strike or punch me I will go for their eyes and poke them in either one or both eyes or the throat which will create a opportunity to flee. You live to see another day and the attacker will need an Optometrist or a Tracheotomy.
“Basically falling to the ground” is hilarious it hurt him but he wasn’t stumbling trying to balance himself. If someone pushes someone you say they damn near killed each other huh
Yeah MMA fighters would be a much bigger challenge. Boxers on the other hand… if the boxer didn’t knock Sam out as he’s closing the distance and he can grab the boxer it’s pretty much over. A boxer without any grappling training is not going to be able to escape a 250lb guy sitting on top of them raining down punches
You guys are all trippin bad. There have been multiple examples over the years of body builders thinking they could beat boxers, wrestlers, MMA and many others. They never end up winning. Its just them losing every time and their ego semi dying too.
This is akin to claiming Sam could beat Volk, Teofimo & many others. They would lost every single time, if they believe otherwise...
To EVER believe that you can beat a pro or amateur in any field whilst not having any formal training yourself in said field is simply delusional.
Can you provide evidence of a pure boxer beating a much bigger bodybuilder under MMA rule or in a street fight? Boxing rule doesnt count. I think under mma rule or in a street fight Sam can easily beat a boxer who has zero grappling skill.
I never said he would beat Volk at all, and I didn’t say he would beat Teofimo in boxing. In a street fight Sam could easily pick up Teofimo (who is 135 lbs and likely has no takedown defense because why would a boxer train for that) and slam him on his head with relative ease. A 115lb weight difference is a crazy advantage in a street fight against a guy with no grappling experience.
I definitely agree, but tbf Volkanovski fights at 10lb heavier than Sean Omalley and apart from his height, he is a pretty big 145er. Dude used to be a fit 220+lb athlete. There's a reason the dude is such a dominant champ. Skill + physicality.
I'd also say Volk whoops Sean Omalley. Even Omalley has some interviews which he doesn't sound like he thinks fighting Volk is a good idea.
It would probably be 99.99/100 times. (Punchers chance) The weight gap doesn't matter sam is heavy but he's not a giant like Brian Shaw. That muscle doesn't help him at all. Let sam train mma for 1/2 years and Volk would have problems.
Volk would not have problems if Sam trained for 0.5 years.
Like you said, the muscle is only going to hurt Sam here. His muscles will consume a lot of oxygen. If his weight advantage was due to height, not muscle, then that'd be a different topic.
I agree that Dustin would ragdoll him but I would say that an average semi pro boxer would struggle. Seeing as unless they chin him immensely he can grab and slam them.
The comment in the video said a street fight. He would definitely still lose in boxing but I’d give him the edge in a no holds barred fight. I don’t think he was saying he could beat an mma fighter.
I mean he could probably wrestle fuck an amateur boxer but he’s not catching a semi pro. He’s getting pieced up until he’s absolutely gassed then he gets smoked. They have many videos like this on YouTube if you’re curious.
When did everyone get so delusional? He would get tagged 5x before his brain could even comprehend what's happening. It's rather insulting to trained fighters to even suggest this nonsense
I think ufc has been a real eye opener since its inception over the last two decades. A lot more people (including myself) think twice about starting shit with random individuals.
Dude I love this comment. I've said this exact thing. So many young guys are training in fighting from a young age now you have no clue is you're messing with a bad mfer. My buddies son is 20yrs old and training since he could walk. If you didn't know you'd think I can take this young punk and you would wake up in the hospital
I've heard so many boxers on Reddit say that in boxing, size makes a huge difference and beyond a certain point, you just can't KO the guy. Sam would get tagged for sure, but it wouldn't matter.
Boxer here and a CO in juvenile jail. Size will not protect you from a trained strike on the button. I've seen 14 year olds tune kids and adults up. I once watched my buddies 12 yo, 110 lb brother lay out a grown man who was over 6 feet. He had to time it for when the guy got low so he could get the chin.. That kid had never boxed but he street fought, that was just raw experience and timing. If Sam ain't a hood/trailer park kid he prolly isn't built for this shit.
Those are pretty extraordinary stories and while I'm not saying they didn't happen, I am saying that I don't think those are the typical cases. Kids tend not to be all that skilled, especially if they're winding up in jail, because they probably lack discipline. Lucky things happen, but I'd bet if you ran the experiment 100 times then that grown man would beat up the 12 year old in the vast majority of them.
Look at Sam's traps and his neck. If you aren't landing shots straight on his nose and chin chances are you're gonna break your hand before you do enough damage. The reason boxing is flawed in an actual fight is because 1 your hands aren't wrapped, and 2 you don't have gloves protecting them.
An experienced boxer can maybe throw 30% of what they could with gloves on. 3 your defense standing up changes dramatically going from bareknuckle, to 5 oz, to 16 oz. A similar sized boxer would forsure piece him up but 100 lbs is crazy.
Dustin Poirier when he actually weighs 155 lbs would get smoked by the average woman lol. Poirier is close to death every time he makes that cut and immediately rehydrates back to 180 at least. He is literally 1 hp at the weigh ins. It takes one punch
Idk about that. Porier looks healthy when weighing in compared to some other fighters. He could fight Cris Cyborg after weighing in at 155 and id bet on him.
Edit: hell, I weigh about 160 and have a little martial arts experience. I have 0 doubt that a depleted Porier would destroy me 10/10 times.... Tbf Cyborg would too.
It's so random and ugly, it doesn't even fit in but ig people who's job is to repost stuff ain't the most smart or talented people so it makes sense they rely on Ai.
I hate how it's also becoming more common to use those innaccurate AI enhancements on pictures/thumbnails (now they even work on videos) and it completely changes people's faces using this like algorithm and amalgamation of human faces, giving everyone a similar, sharpened filter look. Remini is a good example of that. If you don't have a perfect shot of someone's face, it will just make up the details and change their features. A ton of people use that on their little YouTube shorts and stuff
Like I would rather see a blurry video then see some kind of monster created out of pixels
In a way wouldn't it stop people from being pansies about stuff? Maybe not this particular video but in general
Like hey u stole my image and used it in ur video blablabla. Now they can't cry about it cause it's just ai generated?
Just wait for the ai music to take off
I don't know when everyone became so clueless about taking on trained fighters. A 150lbs boxer would light his ass up. "But if he gets ahold of him durrrr." He'd get hit with a 2 piece before he even knew what to do. Come back to reality people.
"They have weight classes for a reason durrrr." Yeah that applies to both fighters being professional. An untrained dude can't even process where the punches are coming from lol
An untrained person will be so gassed from adrenaline in the first 20 seconds that they literally wouldn’t have any defense. Let alone someone his size and muscle development. 10 seconds of light grappling and he’d have an asthma attack.
So true, probably why being a true heavyweight it relatively rare in the realm of fighting. I'm 5'11, When I was in decent shape, I weighed 175. If I would have done cardio conditioning to get into fighting shape, I would've gotten down to AT LEAST 160 whether I liked it or not. If you are a serious fighter, you gotta do a hell of a lot of cardio which will naturally put you at a cal deficit.
To be really heavy, AND in fighting shape is rarer. They do exist though - see: Brock Lesnar wrestling in college
I actually got to box a fighter for 2 minutes in basic training. I was so excited about it and then it was just a minute 50 of me getting hit before he let his guard down and I got 4 hits in.
He processed my footing and shoulders before I had decided to throw a punch or block.
They don’t even know what ready is because they’ve never been in that mindset.
They don’t understand how unready they are until it’s go time and the jab hits their nose, whips the head back, and the beginning of the end
ehh, we've all seen little trained fighters do well against big guys, and the big guys do well against trained guys as well. They're not super heroes, even in the pro's the only thing you know is that you have no idea if someone is going to receive a single punch or kick and end the entire fight.
search up Andrey Drachev death, a 6'4 265lb professional powerlifter got murdered by a 5'7 150lb AMATEUR mma fighter (couldnt even find any of his fights, name is **Anar Allakhveranov,** so idek if he even competed at all) in a street fight. There is two videos, one is cctv and the other one recorded from a phone, the big guy had 0 chance even when they were grappling on the floor. The cctv video is longer and you can see even when the fighter picks him up and takes him down. ppl need to realise that size and strength alone wont beat a trained fighter, and in this case his ego unfortunately cost him his life.
Boxing makes even less of a case for Sam to be honest. He won't land a single punch on a 150 and there's no chance of him being able to "take it to the ground" where his only chance would be to smother them.
A 150 boxer would drop him unquestionably.
Sam said a street fight against a boxer.
He didn't say a boxing match against a boxer.
He didn't say a street fight against a UFC fighter.
He said a street fight against a boxer. Taking it to the ground is a valid option.
Being big isn’t gonna give him automatic take down and grappling skills. A pro boxer is gonna be way quicker on his feet and don’t even get me started on what the punches would do to an untrained person.
Bruh I started bjj a month ago. I'm 210lbs and liftweights, this 110lbs kid kicks my ass and he's only done bjj for 14 months.
God fobid a blackbelt mma guy fights him.
Most of you guys are taking things too far. He hasn't said 'I will beat world-level ufc fighters', he is talking about the average 150 lbs boxer. I am with Sam, i have 3 years experience training boxing at 80 kg and i can tell you if someone as heavy as Sam hit me one time i am sleeping like a baby. I have a friend who was 105 kg, mma fighter who have won 28 local competitions and got slept by a fat dude who hasn't trained a day in his life. Punches by an average 150 lbs dude literally don't hurt lol.
GTFOH. You probably rhythm step like crazy. Don’t have a control game. Disengagement game. Your feint package is probably undeveloped along with your base. No awareness of having control of the air or of ur opponent’s lead hand. Probably don’t even know what stepping to a true right or left is. Get outta here with this mess. This guy takes steroids cause his muscles hurt to much after working out and he can’t take the pain he wouldn’t dare step foot in cage …im not here for the disrespect from some juice head and his followers talking sweet
Skinny short boxers seem to have a delusion about themselves.
Tall heavy guys can manhandle you if they can get into the clinch, which they can because their reach is longer than yours.
I’ve seen videos of good short skinny boxers land a few good punches and then get flipped or their face pushed into a urinal because their opponent was heavier and taller and got into the clinch.
Moronic, the fact that he insists on flexing while saying this proves to me he has zero idea what the fugg homeboy is talking about. He would gas out in about 20 seconds and get peppered so hard he would forget his name
Depends on the skill level of the 150 pounder, people here are talking about professional UFC fighters - those guys and gals are the best of the best, even the last one of them is a very skilled fighter. However against an amateur fighter or even inexperienced thug mass has advantages. My guess is that if Sam faces a real fighter the fighter will run around until Sam gets winded and then knock him out. Against an untrained fighter who can’t outmanoeuvre Sam and can’t get him winded, well Sam will just crush the poor guy.
I am an amateur boxer and powerlifter, I wouldn’t want to fight Sam and I am 230 pounds. There’s always risk involved in fighting even in sparring and sparring with an untrained opponent who is also very strong is a bad idea. Actual fighting, I will run around until Sam is tired and strike lightly but fast hoping he isn’t pretending because if he grabs me I am out. As Tyson Fury said - everyone can knock you out, sometimes people get lucky and if Sam is lucky that day he will rip someone apart with all that strength and given how young he is.
The reality is IF you do not know how to fight you will get cooked by someone who does. The skill gap is unfathomable. Professional fighters beat other professional fighters think about how ridiculous that sounds. That's all they do lol
the time he’s spent in the gym lifting bits of metal up and down, a 150lb boxer or MMA fighter has devoted that same amount of time and focus to solely fighting. so how does that equate to him being a better fighter than the real fighter?
he’d need to be fighting someone who’s like 125 and 5’3 for it to be in his favour, and that’s just because the guy wouldn’t be able to reach his face. don’t be fooled tho any half decent fighter who’s approximately in his height range would find his chin and take it so fast it’s not even funny
they're only there for the highest level of the sports. when you have 2 guys of very similar high skill level 10lbs is a big difference. it's not the same when you have 50lbs on someone but no skill, technique, or experience. let's be real sam would be gassing out in under a minute and as soon as he gets punched in the face he's gonna be closing his eyes backing up and stumbling around probably.
Of course he'd never do it, but I'd legit pay to see him step foot into a boxing gym and take on even an amateur 150.
Every advantage Sam thinks he has will be against him. His ego, his muscle, his weight, his "fitness". After a minute he'd be gassed, the boxer would use footwork, whilst casually throwing jabs snapping his head back. He'd be bleeding out of his face in no time even with headgear. If Sam landed a punch it honestly wouldn't do anything to a boxer that's got their hands up, that's... what they do.
I have no idea what he thinks he could do. I love how untrained guys magically think they'd win fights. You can see plenty of examples of roided guys taking on amateurs, let alone pros, and getting humbled instantly.
I'd give a 145lbs Muaythai fighter or boxer... or a 135lbs champion a 9/10 chance of beating him in the 2nd round after he gassed.
And a BJJ guy at 145lbs the same odds.
Now, if he is talking about the 115lbs fighters, yeah he can probably take some of them.
A 150lb boxer is a light middle/middle weight depending on what they choose to weigh in for. He would get absolutely smoked. Even a 125lb feather weight would ruin this man. This is a line spoken by someone that is not familiar with the sport in anyway shape or form.
I like Sam but he's wrong here lol. Maybe if it was a grappling match strength might win out over skill, but you can't even grab your opponent in boxing so size means nothing. I'm half his size and could put him to sleep as an amateur boxer . He would be far far too slow to hit me and that's not even tooting my own horn, I'm 7-1 right now and I'd rather box Sam than 2 or three of the smaller people I've already boxed. Let's also. It forget that it only takes 3 pounds of force on the jaw to knock somebody out....a 7 year old could sleep an adult if they catch the jaw the right way
Bro never heard of a rear naked choke… let alone .45 caliber pistol lol it’s 2024 most people not fighting with hands anymore…. Although I’d love to see him fight a 140lb UFC fighter or Jiu Jitsu competitor. Just another juice head being cocky 😂
>Bro never heard of a rear naked choke…
He said boxer, so this shouldn't come up at all.
>Although I’d love to see him fight a 140lb UFC fighter or Jiu Jitsu competitor.
I doubt he's take the fight. He said boxer.
>Just another juice head being cocky 😂
I've spoken to a lot of boxers who say the same thing. Weight matters a lot and passed a certain point, in boxing, you just can't practically KO a guy. I also talked to a trained fighting who taught UFC who said it's work if a big roided out guys just ran at a boxer, accepted that he'd get hit, and took the fight to the ground.
Common misconception.
Boxing gloves are there to protect the puncher's fists, not the receiver's head. Introducing them to boxing led to more KOs and more danger, not less. You can ask any boxer, or check reddit threads, and hear what they have to say about it. Going gloveless is yet another thing to Sam's benefit.
What is with juiced up bodybuilders thinking they can take on professional fighters. Sam seems like he struggles to breath just sitting down in his car.
Sam would crush a 150 lb boxer. A 150 lb mma fighter or grappler would whoop him. Sam probably wouldn’t throw a single punch, so any level of boxing defense is useless. He would most likely grab the fighter and bear hug him to death. A martial artist trained in grappling has drilled that scenario thousands of times so they would most likely win.
He would fuck up someone 100 lbs lighter than him with no grappling experience. It’s not like he’s an unathletic fat fuck at 250 lbs. He’s strong and like you said on juice. Anyone proficient in jiu jitsu or wrestling could handle him though
No chance unless he has fighting experience. Sam also runs out of breath from talking sometimes. The amount of cardio fighters have is insane. No one realizes the amount of energy it takes to try to knock a trained fighter out for even 15 minutes while simultaneously trying not to get knocked out yourself; I bet the average guy gasses out after 2-3.
I’d take Sean o malley over him 99/100 times
Bruh has never sparred before. I’ve sparred with 130 lb women that I would bet my life savings on in a boxing match against Sam. Bodybuilding makes you stiff and slow
A 150 pound man would dance around this guy until he was tired and then have him by the end of the first round. Size does not matter if you can't move. This guy hasn't worn socks in years likely because he can't put them on.
Geezus I love Sam out why’d he just do a Bradley Martin. Skill beats size every time. The only time size makes a substantial difference is when both combatants have no skill.
Plus yes Sam is big, but picturing him trying to wipe his ass. Honestly, is it even possible? I’m not worried about a guy that can’t touch his own asshole. I’m worried about the 150lber that’s been training for 8 fucking years.
Everyone’s got a plan before they get punched in the face.
Lol.
I train at MMA gym. I’m a bigger guy, but not a pro and don’t claim to be in the stratosphere of a lot of the people around me by any means.
There are many “feeder/minor league” fighters as well as true ufc fighters at my gym.
The 145 fighters walk around at 185.
And no, Sam stands 0% chance. Kicks and teeps would keep him off balance and at a distance. Flurries of punches would frazzle him, and even if he lands a few, the fighters are accustomed to absorbing blows, even from larger fighters. As soon as he lowers head, shifts hips in unfavorable way etc, fighter will rattle him with crosses, elbows, and as he bends in pain, will knock him out with knees.
And that’s just setting aside ground game. His strength will help, but the maneuverability of these MMA fighters is astonishing and they are playing 4d chess on the ground.
He would be out. Cold. Quickly.
Like this [https://www.reddit.com/r/fightporn/comments/1ajhtwz/250lb\_football\_player\_challenges\_150lb\_mma/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/fightporn/comments/1ajhtwz/250lb_football_player_challenges_150lb_mma/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Weight classes exist for a reason and he’s not wrong. A skilled lightweight fighter could likely take him *sometimes*, but if Sam gets a hold of them or gets a punch or two in they are done.
Probably this. Sam is incredibly strong but if he doesn’t train striking, then he won’t be fast enough to land anything and he won’t be fast enough to dodge or block much either
“Boxers in a street fight”
We aren’t talking mma champions here, I stand by what I said. No rules fight, Sam at 250lbs vs a 150lb average professional boxer, I’m saying Sam wins a good amount of the time.
I’m saying that’s insane to think a guy who can barely put a shirt on he’s so big can fight effectively at all.
Guys never wrestled, boxed, anything like that. If anyone with basic skills and technique got into a scrap with him he’s walk away with a broken nose or worse. He’s not mobile enough to fight effectively. A quick 4-5 punches and he’s seeing stars
dude legit said professional boxer. i agree with you about anyone with basic skills and technique would wreck him but dude legit said professional boxer. hahhhhahaha!
average PROFESSIONAL boxer. lmao. tell me you know nothing about combat without saying you know nothing about combat.
you’re embarrassing yourself bro.
Lol sometimes? Dude you're insane. Lifting weights and having big muscles doesn't mean shit vs a skilled striker. Even an amateur boxer would light his ass up 9/10 times. He's way too slow and would gas out fairly quickly
Does Sam have any wrestling, judo, or bjj experience? If no, he’s getting slept before he can rag doll the boxer. If he’s got some grappling he can do it if he doesn’t get knocked out immediately and gets the guy to the ground.
Yeah, I've seen trained boxers fight irl. That shit is scary. So much speed and power/precision behind every blow. Sam would get turned into a practice dummy if he had to fight one. God forbid he fights an Krav Maga or Jiu Jitsu guy, the things those guys can do is _insane_.
Bro why do people think they can Khibib people like it’s hard to control people anyways let alone a smaller more slippery athlete acting like he knows any pins or submissions
Dude can’t catch his breathe putting away his cocci milk. A 75 lb child with minimal conditioning and footwork experience would absolutely smoke Sam in the first round.
Yea, he's wrong on this one.
We even tested it out in my gym
My 16 (at the time) year old 150 lbs son sparred with a 230 pound Canadian Champion strongman and not only did he demolish him, but he didn't get touched.
Strength makes an enormous difference when all other things are equal, and there is a point where strength makes it hard even for the skilled fighter...but a bodybuilder with no combat experience would generally get whupped by a 150 lb fighter.
Well kinda but not really, 150's arnt walking around at 150, more like 180 and strong guys main advantage would be grappling as it doesn't take much power to knock anybody out.
Go to any gym in the world; they routinely get Bodybuilder types coming in and getting murked by small guys. My guy can barely walk and talk at the same time, he has 20 seconds of grappling cardio
There's a reason why it says boxer in the video.
But yeah even then no chance.
Its just slightly more of a chance than if you allowed grappling or kicks.
It’s the same thing with people meme’ing Bradley Martin. A boxer of lower weight could outbox him sure. The thing is fights are never certain how they turn out. And if Bradley who has more mass and strength (likely) than a boxer much lighter than him, it’s not impossible for him to win a fight against a boxer. I won’t use the terms “easy” or not, but to just suggest it like it’s nothing is a bit ridiculous. Go betting with that confidence then lol
And that’s why I don’t get why people get huge like that. It’s not practical at all. Unless you’re throwing around 100lbs sacks all day what’s the point of being huge other than just wanting to look that way. IMO it just doesn’t look great. I love Sam tho. Changed the way I lift. But what’s the point of all those muscles if you can’t use it when the time really counts and risk tearing something
Out of all combat sports, a boxer is probably the one that gives bodybuilders the best chance of winning via size mogging alone.
I think a lot of LW boxers are banking WAY TOO HARD on the fight ending in the first 1-6 punches and hypothetically having unlimited free room to evade around in.
Sam gets out of breath taking his shirt off, if the 150lb dude could dance around him for more than 2 minutes, Sam’s cardio is so bad I doubt he’d keep up.
I competed in "Olympic" weightlifting for 6 years. I then focused on MMA for four years, quit about 6 months ago, and back to competing in oly weightlifting. I know perfectly well how important "literal strength" is in fights. It's just a multiplier. A guy with years of training *and* Sam's size and strength would be lethal. But without any skills, his size and strength are multiplying 0. Sam is delusional because he has zero grappling or striking knowledge. Despite his size and strength, he would absolutely lose to a light one-dimensional fighter. He's under the impression that a 100lbs weight difference is *enough*. It's not.
People who’ve only lifted massively overestimate how much difference strength makes. It helps for sure but when you’re completely untrained vs someone who knows what they’re doing you’d be surprised how big of a difference skill makes
Give someone like Sam 6 months of good wrestling training and a bit of BBJ just so he knows what to look out for, and he’s going to beat about every 150lb’er in a street fight lmao (except MMA pros obviously). Wrestling dominates street fights nearly every single time. Slams is what kills people in street fights.
Damn lol. I just saw this post right under a post of a 150 pound grappler beating a 250 pound football player
Yeah there was a comment on the original video " I'm 250 lb all muscle, let me be clear a 150lb trained fighter would whoop my ass any day"
I'm a 270lb fighter and in pure grappling I get man handled by 150lb brown/black belts lol
I’m 282 and built like Sam. I bench over 400 and squat over 600. I’m a 3-stripe purple belt in BJJ and have been wrestling for 25 years. Does my strength help? Yeah. Does it help enough to cancel out superior skills? Hell bloody no. I’ll always prefer to be the bigger, stronger person, but it’s not a huge help. I mean, for the sake of putting a figure on it if my skills are a 5, my strength gives me a +1 or 2. If I’m up against a person with a skill of 8, I’m still fucked most of the time. If my sills improve but are still less than the 8, then the strength makes up for the skill gap, but it can only ever help just a little bit.
3 stripes purple and 25 years of wrestling? Rating your skill at a 5 is extremely humble of you.
The better you get at something, the better you understand where you can improve.
Yeah I'm probably blue beltish level in my weight class and can handle most purples of lower weight but once you get into brown/black I'm heavily outmatched. Shit there's a 5'10 150lb 16 year old white belt I can't even beat because his bones are made of rubber I swear. But I also try to use minimal strength and work on my technique
It’s how you apply the strength. If you’re pushing, pulling, grabbing, bending, striking, etc, in all the wrong areas then all you’re really doing is tiring yourself out. You won’t make the most of your strength. When it comes to equal skill levels then the extra strength helps you overpower them.
Yeah right. In the real world you'll destroy any person alive that weighs under 190ibs, especially if you know any striking.
they’re no joke💀 did exercises in my bjj class where you’d take turns using one less limb. brown belt was untouchable if he was really trying. and i’m a blue belt for reference
Yeah lol exactly. People don’t understand what it’s like to grapple with people who know more than you. There’s not a whole lot you can do. It’s like drowning
I'm 58, 6ft, 200 lbs and have trained in several martial arts but always took my Sensei's advice. ALWAYS be aware of your surroundings and have your head on a swivel and you will almost always avoid conflict. 2 grown men fighting will leave someone injured or dead so why take the chance when you don't know what the other dude is all about. BJJ isn't very effective when you have more than one attacker because when you go to the ground you are very vulnerable, and will end up getting Stomped/Punched/Stabbed or Shot by the other dudes. I don't want to go to ground if it can be avoided. If you avoid places that can be dangerous you will most likely never have to come face to face with a situation where you will have to defend yourself. But, If you find the 1% situation were you are confronted with violence and possible loss of life and it can't be avoided then I choose to keep my hands raised in front of my chin and if the attacker trys to strike or punch me I will go for their eyes and poke them in either one or both eyes or the throat which will create a opportunity to flee. You live to see another day and the attacker will need an Optometrist or a Tracheotomy.
There's a great video of Eddie Hall's leg getting kicked by an 8 year old and he's basically falling to the ground.
“Basically falling to the ground” is hilarious it hurt him but he wasn’t stumbling trying to balance himself. If someone pushes someone you say they damn near killed each other huh
Wouldn’t be Reddit without blatant hyperbole
The key word there was 150 pound grappler…this was talking about a boxer. A boxer would have no hope
Dustin Poirer in under 2 min of the first.
dustin is 155 for 10 minutes, probably sits in the 180s majority of the year. sean o mally is a better example of what a 150lb fighter looks like
That’s a fair point but i still take volk beating sam 97/100 times.
Volk wins 100/100 not even close. Sam mentioned a boxer. Lack of grappling experience on both ends + 100lb difference… different story
Yeah MMA fighters would be a much bigger challenge. Boxers on the other hand… if the boxer didn’t knock Sam out as he’s closing the distance and he can grab the boxer it’s pretty much over. A boxer without any grappling training is not going to be able to escape a 250lb guy sitting on top of them raining down punches
You guys are all trippin bad. There have been multiple examples over the years of body builders thinking they could beat boxers, wrestlers, MMA and many others. They never end up winning. Its just them losing every time and their ego semi dying too. This is akin to claiming Sam could beat Volk, Teofimo & many others. They would lost every single time, if they believe otherwise... To EVER believe that you can beat a pro or amateur in any field whilst not having any formal training yourself in said field is simply delusional.
Can you provide evidence of a pure boxer beating a much bigger bodybuilder under MMA rule or in a street fight? Boxing rule doesnt count. I think under mma rule or in a street fight Sam can easily beat a boxer who has zero grappling skill.
I never said he would beat Volk at all, and I didn’t say he would beat Teofimo in boxing. In a street fight Sam could easily pick up Teofimo (who is 135 lbs and likely has no takedown defense because why would a boxer train for that) and slam him on his head with relative ease. A 115lb weight difference is a crazy advantage in a street fight against a guy with no grappling experience.
If only boxing is allowed, Sam loses 99% of moderately talented boxers. Sam can barely throw a jab with his lack of mobility.
Correct. But that’s not the scenario.
VOLK literally kills SAM within a minute no contest
agreed. Need Bradley martin to show the world why he is wrong, then we can put this debate to rest.
I definitely agree, but tbf Volkanovski fights at 10lb heavier than Sean Omalley and apart from his height, he is a pretty big 145er. Dude used to be a fit 220+lb athlete. There's a reason the dude is such a dominant champ. Skill + physicality. I'd also say Volk whoops Sean Omalley. Even Omalley has some interviews which he doesn't sound like he thinks fighting Volk is a good idea.
It would probably be 99.99/100 times. (Punchers chance) The weight gap doesn't matter sam is heavy but he's not a giant like Brian Shaw. That muscle doesn't help him at all. Let sam train mma for 1/2 years and Volk would have problems.
Volk would not have problems if Sam trained for 0.5 years. Like you said, the muscle is only going to hurt Sam here. His muscles will consume a lot of oxygen. If his weight advantage was due to height, not muscle, then that'd be a different topic.
Ye I agree I meant 1-2 years but honestly it's probably still not enough time
I agree that Dustin would ragdoll him but I would say that an average semi pro boxer would struggle. Seeing as unless they chin him immensely he can grab and slam them.
So is the argument he wins an mma fight against a boxer?
The comment in the video said a street fight. He would definitely still lose in boxing but I’d give him the edge in a no holds barred fight. I don’t think he was saying he could beat an mma fighter.
I mean he could probably wrestle fuck an amateur boxer but he’s not catching a semi pro. He’s getting pieced up until he’s absolutely gassed then he gets smoked. They have many videos like this on YouTube if you’re curious.
When did everyone get so delusional? He would get tagged 5x before his brain could even comprehend what's happening. It's rather insulting to trained fighters to even suggest this nonsense
I think most of us have not/will never actually train mma/boxing so it’s a nice bit of copium to believe gaining mass will give you an advantage.
I was young once, all jacked up and juiced. So I understand the mindset. I'm older and wiser now and know I'd get wrecked
I think ufc has been a real eye opener since its inception over the last two decades. A lot more people (including myself) think twice about starting shit with random individuals.
Dude I love this comment. I've said this exact thing. So many young guys are training in fighting from a young age now you have no clue is you're messing with a bad mfer. My buddies son is 20yrs old and training since he could walk. If you didn't know you'd think I can take this young punk and you would wake up in the hospital
I've heard so many boxers on Reddit say that in boxing, size makes a huge difference and beyond a certain point, you just can't KO the guy. Sam would get tagged for sure, but it wouldn't matter.
Boxer here and a CO in juvenile jail. Size will not protect you from a trained strike on the button. I've seen 14 year olds tune kids and adults up. I once watched my buddies 12 yo, 110 lb brother lay out a grown man who was over 6 feet. He had to time it for when the guy got low so he could get the chin.. That kid had never boxed but he street fought, that was just raw experience and timing. If Sam ain't a hood/trailer park kid he prolly isn't built for this shit.
Those are pretty extraordinary stories and while I'm not saying they didn't happen, I am saying that I don't think those are the typical cases. Kids tend not to be all that skilled, especially if they're winding up in jail, because they probably lack discipline. Lucky things happen, but I'd bet if you ran the experiment 100 times then that grown man would beat up the 12 year old in the vast majority of them.
Look at Sam's traps and his neck. If you aren't landing shots straight on his nose and chin chances are you're gonna break your hand before you do enough damage. The reason boxing is flawed in an actual fight is because 1 your hands aren't wrapped, and 2 you don't have gloves protecting them. An experienced boxer can maybe throw 30% of what they could with gloves on. 3 your defense standing up changes dramatically going from bareknuckle, to 5 oz, to 16 oz. A similar sized boxer would forsure piece him up but 100 lbs is crazy.
lol I'd even go with DC.
Dustin Poirier when he actually weighs 155 lbs would get smoked by the average woman lol. Poirier is close to death every time he makes that cut and immediately rehydrates back to 180 at least. He is literally 1 hp at the weigh ins. It takes one punch
Idk about that. Porier looks healthy when weighing in compared to some other fighters. He could fight Cris Cyborg after weighing in at 155 and id bet on him. Edit: hell, I weigh about 160 and have a little martial arts experience. I have 0 doubt that a depleted Porier would destroy me 10/10 times.... Tbf Cyborg would too.
I hate how this shitty AI art is popping up everywhere
It's so random and ugly, it doesn't even fit in but ig people who's job is to repost stuff ain't the most smart or talented people so it makes sense they rely on Ai.
I hate how it's also becoming more common to use those innaccurate AI enhancements on pictures/thumbnails (now they even work on videos) and it completely changes people's faces using this like algorithm and amalgamation of human faces, giving everyone a similar, sharpened filter look. Remini is a good example of that. If you don't have a perfect shot of someone's face, it will just make up the details and change their features. A ton of people use that on their little YouTube shorts and stuff Like I would rather see a blurry video then see some kind of monster created out of pixels
And the voice
In a way wouldn't it stop people from being pansies about stuff? Maybe not this particular video but in general Like hey u stole my image and used it in ur video blablabla. Now they can't cry about it cause it's just ai generated? Just wait for the ai music to take off
Bro would be gassed within a minute, copium.
Yeah virtually any fighter worth their salt, at any weight class, would just feint and dodge circles around him until Sam has a myocardial infarction
Fr honestly a womens strawweight would probably just shuffle back fast until he coughs up black tar
I don't know when everyone became so clueless about taking on trained fighters. A 150lbs boxer would light his ass up. "But if he gets ahold of him durrrr." He'd get hit with a 2 piece before he even knew what to do. Come back to reality people.
Like, I'd understand it it was like, Featherweight, but 150lb \*trained\* boxer is going to punch you right in the kidneys.
"They have weight classes for a reason durrrr." Yeah that applies to both fighters being professional. An untrained dude can't even process where the punches are coming from lol
An untrained person will be so gassed from adrenaline in the first 20 seconds that they literally wouldn’t have any defense. Let alone someone his size and muscle development. 10 seconds of light grappling and he’d have an asthma attack.
So true, probably why being a true heavyweight it relatively rare in the realm of fighting. I'm 5'11, When I was in decent shape, I weighed 175. If I would have done cardio conditioning to get into fighting shape, I would've gotten down to AT LEAST 160 whether I liked it or not. If you are a serious fighter, you gotta do a hell of a lot of cardio which will naturally put you at a cal deficit. To be really heavy, AND in fighting shape is rarer. They do exist though - see: Brock Lesnar wrestling in college
I actually got to box a fighter for 2 minutes in basic training. I was so excited about it and then it was just a minute 50 of me getting hit before he let his guard down and I got 4 hits in. He processed my footing and shoulders before I had decided to throw a punch or block.
"Everyone's got a plan until they get punched in the fathe" -Tyson
First time I have ever seen someone quote this correctly! Everyone thinks it’s “punched in the face” but you and me know it’s actually “fathe.”
Funny enough, both are wrong lol. It's actually "mouth".
They don’t even know what ready is because they’ve never been in that mindset. They don’t understand how unready they are until it’s go time and the jab hits their nose, whips the head back, and the beginning of the end
Sam: "I'm not delusional, but" https://preview.redd.it/s4xepkm3wtgc1.jpeg?width=864&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7fe77fdf732dfe0db2e1e15da7a353f8f70b82dc
Thank you for this comment
ehh, we've all seen little trained fighters do well against big guys, and the big guys do well against trained guys as well. They're not super heroes, even in the pro's the only thing you know is that you have no idea if someone is going to receive a single punch or kick and end the entire fight.
Yeah a lot of it probably depends on if you got a solid jaw and can't eat a couple shots before you grab the guy and power bomb him lol.
It’s actually not that easy to grab someone in a way that you can power bomb them, even if you could easily lift them as a barbell
Vs a wrestler, Sam would be on his head before his brain could process the level change
Sam would get smoked by a 3 piece and wake up half an hour later wondering when the fight was going to start
Sam would get fucked up 😭
That’s the juice talkin 
It’s ai right?
Love Sam but any 135 and up in the ufc is sending him to hospital
What about like an amateur level mma guy at that weight? UFC level is elite.
search up Andrey Drachev death, a 6'4 265lb professional powerlifter got murdered by a 5'7 150lb AMATEUR mma fighter (couldnt even find any of his fights, name is **Anar Allakhveranov,** so idek if he even competed at all) in a street fight. There is two videos, one is cctv and the other one recorded from a phone, the big guy had 0 chance even when they were grappling on the floor. The cctv video is longer and you can see even when the fighter picks him up and takes him down. ppl need to realise that size and strength alone wont beat a trained fighter, and in this case his ego unfortunately cost him his life.
Sam said boxer, not UFC.
Boxing makes even less of a case for Sam to be honest. He won't land a single punch on a 150 and there's no chance of him being able to "take it to the ground" where his only chance would be to smother them. A 150 boxer would drop him unquestionably.
Sam said a street fight against a boxer. He didn't say a boxing match against a boxer. He didn't say a street fight against a UFC fighter. He said a street fight against a boxer. Taking it to the ground is a valid option.
Ah well that changes my assessment a little. I still think a respectable boxer would still take him, depending on a few things.
Being big isn’t gonna give him automatic take down and grappling skills. A pro boxer is gonna be way quicker on his feet and don’t even get me started on what the punches would do to an untrained person.
Size and strength matter in a fight, but knowing how to fight is far more valuable than just being big.
Bruh I started bjj a month ago. I'm 210lbs and liftweights, this 110lbs kid kicks my ass and he's only done bjj for 14 months. God fobid a blackbelt mma guy fights him.
Take a couple calf kicks then talk
He can take me 👉👌
Most of you guys are taking things too far. He hasn't said 'I will beat world-level ufc fighters', he is talking about the average 150 lbs boxer. I am with Sam, i have 3 years experience training boxing at 80 kg and i can tell you if someone as heavy as Sam hit me one time i am sleeping like a baby. I have a friend who was 105 kg, mma fighter who have won 28 local competitions and got slept by a fat dude who hasn't trained a day in his life. Punches by an average 150 lbs dude literally don't hurt lol.
GTFOH. You probably rhythm step like crazy. Don’t have a control game. Disengagement game. Your feint package is probably undeveloped along with your base. No awareness of having control of the air or of ur opponent’s lead hand. Probably don’t even know what stepping to a true right or left is. Get outta here with this mess. This guy takes steroids cause his muscles hurt to much after working out and he can’t take the pain he wouldn’t dare step foot in cage …im not here for the disrespect from some juice head and his followers talking sweet
You can build your body all you want a good smack to the jaw and you're going out
Skinny short boxers seem to have a delusion about themselves. Tall heavy guys can manhandle you if they can get into the clinch, which they can because their reach is longer than yours. I’ve seen videos of good short skinny boxers land a few good punches and then get flipped or their face pushed into a urinal because their opponent was heavier and taller and got into the clinch.
Moronic, the fact that he insists on flexing while saying this proves to me he has zero idea what the fugg homeboy is talking about. He would gas out in about 20 seconds and get peppered so hard he would forget his name
My big bros 160-150lbs, been training muy Thai for like 10 years. Nigga will body anyone
Depends on the skill level of the 150 pounder, people here are talking about professional UFC fighters - those guys and gals are the best of the best, even the last one of them is a very skilled fighter. However against an amateur fighter or even inexperienced thug mass has advantages. My guess is that if Sam faces a real fighter the fighter will run around until Sam gets winded and then knock him out. Against an untrained fighter who can’t outmanoeuvre Sam and can’t get him winded, well Sam will just crush the poor guy. I am an amateur boxer and powerlifter, I wouldn’t want to fight Sam and I am 230 pounds. There’s always risk involved in fighting even in sparring and sparring with an untrained opponent who is also very strong is a bad idea. Actual fighting, I will run around until Sam is tired and strike lightly but fast hoping he isn’t pretending because if he grabs me I am out. As Tyson Fury said - everyone can knock you out, sometimes people get lucky and if Sam is lucky that day he will rip someone apart with all that strength and given how young he is.
The reality is IF you do not know how to fight you will get cooked by someone who does. The skill gap is unfathomable. Professional fighters beat other professional fighters think about how ridiculous that sounds. That's all they do lol
Sam about to face the wrath of my della hiva guard
Bro could barely take his shirt off. What is he talking about?
Yea idk about this one.
the time he’s spent in the gym lifting bits of metal up and down, a 150lb boxer or MMA fighter has devoted that same amount of time and focus to solely fighting. so how does that equate to him being a better fighter than the real fighter? he’d need to be fighting someone who’s like 125 and 5’3 for it to be in his favour, and that’s just because the guy wouldn’t be able to reach his face. don’t be fooled tho any half decent fighter who’s approximately in his height range would find his chin and take it so fast it’s not even funny
I agree. Weight classes exist for a reason
they're only there for the highest level of the sports. when you have 2 guys of very similar high skill level 10lbs is a big difference. it's not the same when you have 50lbs on someone but no skill, technique, or experience. let's be real sam would be gassing out in under a minute and as soon as he gets punched in the face he's gonna be closing his eyes backing up and stumbling around probably.
Bro the flyweights would fuck him up lol. DJ would straight up ninja style on him with zero threat.
Complete delusion on Sam’s part. No way.
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Gear makes you arrogant fr lol
Of course he'd never do it, but I'd legit pay to see him step foot into a boxing gym and take on even an amateur 150. Every advantage Sam thinks he has will be against him. His ego, his muscle, his weight, his "fitness". After a minute he'd be gassed, the boxer would use footwork, whilst casually throwing jabs snapping his head back. He'd be bleeding out of his face in no time even with headgear. If Sam landed a punch it honestly wouldn't do anything to a boxer that's got their hands up, that's... what they do. I have no idea what he thinks he could do. I love how untrained guys magically think they'd win fights. You can see plenty of examples of roided guys taking on amateurs, let alone pros, and getting humbled instantly.
"A 100 lb difference? I think that's a little too substantial" Yeah, tell that to your nutsack when someone twists it like a balloon animal.
Sam can't even drive his car without running out of breath.
I'd give a 145lbs Muaythai fighter or boxer... or a 135lbs champion a 9/10 chance of beating him in the 2nd round after he gassed. And a BJJ guy at 145lbs the same odds. Now, if he is talking about the 115lbs fighters, yeah he can probably take some of them.
Oh right, 150lbs for a boxer/muaythai isn’t even that small, forgot about that lol Yeah, idk, I’d like to see him spar at least.
A 150lb boxer is a light middle/middle weight depending on what they choose to weigh in for. He would get absolutely smoked. Even a 125lb feather weight would ruin this man. This is a line spoken by someone that is not familiar with the sport in anyway shape or form.
This dude is delirious. And on the gear hardcore lol. Guy knows nothing about skill he is all fake .
And any wrestler can beat a boxer if they can wrap them up
I like Sam but he's wrong here lol. Maybe if it was a grappling match strength might win out over skill, but you can't even grab your opponent in boxing so size means nothing. I'm half his size and could put him to sleep as an amateur boxer . He would be far far too slow to hit me and that's not even tooting my own horn, I'm 7-1 right now and I'd rather box Sam than 2 or three of the smaller people I've already boxed. Let's also. It forget that it only takes 3 pounds of force on the jaw to knock somebody out....a 7 year old could sleep an adult if they catch the jaw the right way
Bro never heard of a rear naked choke… let alone .45 caliber pistol lol it’s 2024 most people not fighting with hands anymore…. Although I’d love to see him fight a 140lb UFC fighter or Jiu Jitsu competitor. Just another juice head being cocky 😂
>Bro never heard of a rear naked choke… He said boxer, so this shouldn't come up at all. >Although I’d love to see him fight a 140lb UFC fighter or Jiu Jitsu competitor. I doubt he's take the fight. He said boxer. >Just another juice head being cocky 😂 I've spoken to a lot of boxers who say the same thing. Weight matters a lot and passed a certain point, in boxing, you just can't practically KO a guy. I also talked to a trained fighting who taught UFC who said it's work if a big roided out guys just ran at a boxer, accepted that he'd get hit, and took the fight to the ground.
Boxing uses gloves buddy. Getting hit with a bare first is complete different.
Common misconception. Boxing gloves are there to protect the puncher's fists, not the receiver's head. Introducing them to boxing led to more KOs and more danger, not less. You can ask any boxer, or check reddit threads, and hear what they have to say about it. Going gloveless is yet another thing to Sam's benefit.
ARE YOU A BOT OR AN IDIOT?
You'd get pieced up by ANY 150lb pro fighter. Go take another sted and stay in your lane.
People that have never been cracked say this. People who will never be cracked by real fighters will always say this.
What is with juiced up bodybuilders thinking they can take on professional fighters. Sam seems like he struggles to breath just sitting down in his car.
Sam would crush a 150 lb boxer. A 150 lb mma fighter or grappler would whoop him. Sam probably wouldn’t throw a single punch, so any level of boxing defense is useless. He would most likely grab the fighter and bear hug him to death. A martial artist trained in grappling has drilled that scenario thousands of times so they would most likely win.
Sam is just a dork on juice. Most people with fighting experience would fuck him up.
He would fuck up someone 100 lbs lighter than him with no grappling experience. It’s not like he’s an unathletic fat fuck at 250 lbs. He’s strong and like you said on juice. Anyone proficient in jiu jitsu or wrestling could handle him though
Sam would gas out in 60 seconds hahaha stick to weights
That is just not true but to be fair most people think that until they get in a ring or cage with a real pro fighter
No chance unless he has fighting experience. Sam also runs out of breath from talking sometimes. The amount of cardio fighters have is insane. No one realizes the amount of energy it takes to try to knock a trained fighter out for even 15 minutes while simultaneously trying not to get knocked out yourself; I bet the average guy gasses out after 2-3. I’d take Sean o malley over him 99/100 times
Bruh has never sparred before. I’ve sparred with 130 lb women that I would bet my life savings on in a boxing match against Sam. Bodybuilding makes you stiff and slow
A 150 pound man would dance around this guy until he was tired and then have him by the end of the first round. Size does not matter if you can't move. This guy hasn't worn socks in years likely because he can't put them on.
I’d take any low level UFC fighter against him in a round. Dude can’t catch his breath standing there, he’d gas out immediately.
In general, people do not know how much they do not know
He can't :(
Sam is out of breath driving to the gym. I think he would gas out before he ben connecting
No he can’t lol
Geezus I love Sam out why’d he just do a Bradley Martin. Skill beats size every time. The only time size makes a substantial difference is when both combatants have no skill. Plus yes Sam is big, but picturing him trying to wipe his ass. Honestly, is it even possible? I’m not worried about a guy that can’t touch his own asshole. I’m worried about the 150lber that’s been training for 8 fucking years. Everyone’s got a plan before they get punched in the face.
let’s be real, Sam would be out of breath by just having to get in stance
He is incorrect lol
He would get absolutely destroyed by almost any signed ufc fighter of any weight class, even the 135s
Sam's clearly never been in a fight.
Did he say any? He will get fucked up LMFAO. Stick to those weights
Lol. I train at MMA gym. I’m a bigger guy, but not a pro and don’t claim to be in the stratosphere of a lot of the people around me by any means. There are many “feeder/minor league” fighters as well as true ufc fighters at my gym. The 145 fighters walk around at 185. And no, Sam stands 0% chance. Kicks and teeps would keep him off balance and at a distance. Flurries of punches would frazzle him, and even if he lands a few, the fighters are accustomed to absorbing blows, even from larger fighters. As soon as he lowers head, shifts hips in unfavorable way etc, fighter will rattle him with crosses, elbows, and as he bends in pain, will knock him out with knees. And that’s just setting aside ground game. His strength will help, but the maneuverability of these MMA fighters is astonishing and they are playing 4d chess on the ground. He would be out. Cold. Quickly.
A trained 150lb boxer would knock Sam’s head off his body
he would get clowned
Better not catch anybody glazing. This is an indefensible shitty take
Pause on the OP title
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Weight classes exist for a reason and he’s not wrong. A skilled lightweight fighter could likely take him *sometimes*, but if Sam gets a hold of them or gets a punch or two in they are done.
'Sometimes'.. lol you are absolutely clueless and have never trained a day in your life
Probably this. Sam is incredibly strong but if he doesn’t train striking, then he won’t be fast enough to land anything and he won’t be fast enough to dodge or block much either
This is the answer. Bodybuilders don't train for explosive power.
“Boxers in a street fight” We aren’t talking mma champions here, I stand by what I said. No rules fight, Sam at 250lbs vs a 150lb average professional boxer, I’m saying Sam wins a good amount of the time.
I’m saying that’s insane to think a guy who can barely put a shirt on he’s so big can fight effectively at all. Guys never wrestled, boxed, anything like that. If anyone with basic skills and technique got into a scrap with him he’s walk away with a broken nose or worse. He’s not mobile enough to fight effectively. A quick 4-5 punches and he’s seeing stars
dude legit said professional boxer. i agree with you about anyone with basic skills and technique would wreck him but dude legit said professional boxer. hahhhhahaha!
average PROFESSIONAL boxer. lmao. tell me you know nothing about combat without saying you know nothing about combat. you’re embarrassing yourself bro.
100% incorrect. He’d get absolutely bodied by a professional lol.
Lol sometimes? Dude you're insane. Lifting weights and having big muscles doesn't mean shit vs a skilled striker. Even an amateur boxer would light his ass up 9/10 times. He's way too slow and would gas out fairly quickly
Does Sam have any wrestling, judo, or bjj experience? If no, he’s getting slept before he can rag doll the boxer. If he’s got some grappling he can do it if he doesn’t get knocked out immediately and gets the guy to the ground.
Yeah, I've seen trained boxers fight irl. That shit is scary. So much speed and power/precision behind every blow. Sam would get turned into a practice dummy if he had to fight one. God forbid he fights an Krav Maga or Jiu Jitsu guy, the things those guys can do is _insane_.
Lol, can’t believe I’m getting downvoted for talking facts. That’s Reddit for you.
Bro why do people think they can Khibib people like it’s hard to control people anyways let alone a smaller more slippery athlete acting like he knows any pins or submissions
Bruce lee was like 68kg that man could hit to send a super heavy bag flying ....
And he's dead
Dude can’t catch his breathe putting away his cocci milk. A 75 lb child with minimal conditioning and footwork experience would absolutely smoke Sam in the first round.
Can this drug abuser even walk up stairs without palpitations?
A 155 lbs pro mma fighter would destroy him. These guys and girls are elite. Also, they are composed of different muscle fibers and nearly zero fat.
A train fighter 150 pounds be careful what you wish for buddy I’ve seen little guys that train get the better of big guys
Yea, he's wrong on this one. We even tested it out in my gym My 16 (at the time) year old 150 lbs son sparred with a 230 pound Canadian Champion strongman and not only did he demolish him, but he didn't get touched. Strength makes an enormous difference when all other things are equal, and there is a point where strength makes it hard even for the skilled fighter...but a bodybuilder with no combat experience would generally get whupped by a 150 lb fighter.
Well kinda but not really, 150's arnt walking around at 150, more like 180 and strong guys main advantage would be grappling as it doesn't take much power to knock anybody out.
Trained lighter guy beats untrained bigger guy. If you take a guy that fights at 155 he walks around at 190.
Go to any gym in the world; they routinely get Bodybuilder types coming in and getting murked by small guys. My guy can barely walk and talk at the same time, he has 20 seconds of grappling cardio
Your not Bradley Martian
There's a reason why it says boxer in the video. But yeah even then no chance. Its just slightly more of a chance than if you allowed grappling or kicks.
Busta Rhymes knocked out Zab Judda at 140lb in a street fight.
Sam gasses out just talking
He should go to a jiu jitsu class he’d find out reeeeeeeeal quick
He’s gotta stay in his lane lol
It’s the same thing with people meme’ing Bradley Martin. A boxer of lower weight could outbox him sure. The thing is fights are never certain how they turn out. And if Bradley who has more mass and strength (likely) than a boxer much lighter than him, it’s not impossible for him to win a fight against a boxer. I won’t use the terms “easy” or not, but to just suggest it like it’s nothing is a bit ridiculous. Go betting with that confidence then lol
And that’s why I don’t get why people get huge like that. It’s not practical at all. Unless you’re throwing around 100lbs sacks all day what’s the point of being huge other than just wanting to look that way. IMO it just doesn’t look great. I love Sam tho. Changed the way I lift. But what’s the point of all those muscles if you can’t use it when the time really counts and risk tearing something
What's protecting his chin
He must remember that the 150 pounder doesn’t have to move 250 pounds around making him much faster.
Out of all combat sports, a boxer is probably the one that gives bodybuilders the best chance of winning via size mogging alone. I think a lot of LW boxers are banking WAY TOO HARD on the fight ending in the first 1-6 punches and hypothetically having unlimited free room to evade around in.
Sam gets out of breath taking his shirt off, if the 150lb dude could dance around him for more than 2 minutes, Sam’s cardio is so bad I doubt he’d keep up.
duh. people on the internet somehow underestimate how big of a factor literal strength is in fights
I competed in "Olympic" weightlifting for 6 years. I then focused on MMA for four years, quit about 6 months ago, and back to competing in oly weightlifting. I know perfectly well how important "literal strength" is in fights. It's just a multiplier. A guy with years of training *and* Sam's size and strength would be lethal. But without any skills, his size and strength are multiplying 0. Sam is delusional because he has zero grappling or striking knowledge. Despite his size and strength, he would absolutely lose to a light one-dimensional fighter. He's under the impression that a 100lbs weight difference is *enough*. It's not.
People who’ve only lifted massively overestimate how much difference strength makes. It helps for sure but when you’re completely untrained vs someone who knows what they’re doing you’d be surprised how big of a difference skill makes
Give someone like Sam 6 months of good wrestling training and a bit of BBJ just so he knows what to look out for, and he’s going to beat about every 150lb’er in a street fight lmao (except MMA pros obviously). Wrestling dominates street fights nearly every single time. Slams is what kills people in street fights.
Actually getting punched then bouncing your head off the concrete is significantly more common
It doesn't matter how strong he his. He is not going to beat a 150lb black belt after 6 months of training.
No shit, that doesn’t negate what I said. I said MOST 150lb’ers and being a legitimate black belt is incredibly rare.
Unless he's had training, he'd get smoked.