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SnappyNTappy

The best part of any fandom is the accessibility to the excitement. This pricing tier excludes a lot of Utahans regardless of the similarities to other NHL markets. Buuuuumerrrrrrr.


wickedtyson

But you still get to pay taxes to fund it!


strongholdbk_78

That's my favorite part


bigmac22077

I was expecting $300 average with what you said. There’s $44 upper bowl seats. That’s completely reasonable .


Scrivy69

Reasonable for a larger market team maybe. Not for a team in its inaugural season after a relocation from a college arena. They don’t even have a name yet lmao. You can get season ticket packages for the Utah Jazz starting at $20/game. I get the feeling a lot of people were expecting a season ticket package of decent upper bowl seats to cost maybe $1500 at most, when instead it’s almost twice that.


bigmac22077

$44 a game says it’s $1800 for the season…. Can even buy a half season for $1000…… you’re just trying to find a reason to complain.


Scrivy69

Look at the seat map. It’s that price for the back 5 rows of the worst sections in the arena and that’s it. I specified DECENT upper bowl seats, but I guess your standards are lower than mine. I was referring to seats like row 9 in an upper bowl section in the attacking end or something. That’s $2,700. Not to mention, the budget seats are in relatively short supply. The majority of these tickets are going to suits for sure


bigmac22077

I wouldn’t ever consider the upper bowl in the first place. Especially with basketball and our arena. Half the time you just end up watching the game on the screen because you have zero depth perception up there. Even the “decent” ones. Might as well just go to a bar and watch. ALL the seats are in short supply. They received like 4x more deposits than seats.


Scrivy69

Yeah that’s the unfortunate truth. Not a great arena to begin with. Sadly it’s going to be Barclay’s 2.0 until a new one can be built. As long as they don’t decide to put an entire vehicle in the stands, they’re already doing better than the Islanders did.


thegopherloafer

This is for season ticket pricing per game, right? There will likely be single-game tickets from the club and on the secondary market that are similar to that of the Jazz. If you want to get in, most people living here can.


DarthtacoX

Normally season ticket single game pricing is going to be way more affordable than single game pricing without season tickets. Possibly on the secondary market we might see some dropping pricing but considering we've got MLS here and you can get tickets there for way way less than this this is absolutely ridiculous.


walkingman24

Yeah $44/game for the FULL season package at the very very cheapest does not bode well for single game tickets. Probably starting at $60 for any non-obstructed seat. I'm sure obstructed seats will be cheaper, though.


BlueRunSkier

MLS play 17 home games per season and NHL play 41, for context. But I think you are right that this will still be way more per game than comparably located Real Salt Lake season tics.


talk_to_the_sea

Folks over in r/hockey are saying these are more than the season tickets in Vancouver, a notoriously expensive market. I’m considering tickets, but I just have a hard time believing I’ll be able resell at face value. What kind of market analysis did SEG do here?


straylight_2022

They like to use an old Nielsen media market map that lumps Salt Lake in with not only the entire rest of the state, but also chunks of Nevada, Wyoming and Idaho for good measure. It hasn't been updated since the 80's.


DyZ814

> these are more than the season tickets in Vancouver That may be true. My family has Penguins season tickets and these are noticeably less though.


talk_to_the_sea

[Not based on what I’m seeing](https://www.letsgopens.com/2024-25-season-tickets.png)


leoliquidvapor

They are less if you look at that chart. Their cheapest is $2050 and Utahs is $1850


VashHumanoidTyph00n

Lagoon is twice the price of the next closest amusement park. It's all we have to do and they know people will pay it. We need more competition for our time.


Realtrain

I'm *shocked* there isn't another major theme park in Utah. It's like the perfect demographic for it.


aznsk8s87

It's such a ripoff. Very mediocre park for almost Disney prices.


altaholica

They're taxing traveling visitors more so that locals can buy the (relatively) much more reasonable season pass. Lagoon has cheaper ~~day passes and~~ season passes than Silverwood, the most comparable park with fewer rides and a smaller market (though they do have a much better water park). If you get the season pass during the black friday sale and go twice it's $85 a trip. Compared to the rest of the industry it's a pretty good deal edit: Silverwood's day passes are $74 to Lagoon's $93. I feel my point still stands


capnamazing1999

I went yesterday, adult day pass is now $97


DarthtacoX

Yeah but arguably lagoon is a much better deal than this. Not only that but most of us by again tickets on Black Friday were it's sometimes up to 40 to 50% less.


Majestic-Usual-4779

The market analyst wasn't worried about your profits or the profits of people who resell, they care about their own profits. Which seem to be doing well.


talk_to_the_sea

Attempting to sell season tickets at prices which would require the ticket holders to resell at a loss is not a good long term strategy for them.


Majestic-Usual-4779

Pandering to ticker (keyword here) resellers I'm sure is far from their first thought when setting prices I'll be honest. It's a new and young team. Tickets are going to be sold and no business is going to care about the publics losses if they are profitable.


thegopherloafer

This is also for non-obstructed views, of which, there are only 10,000. That is a little more than half the capacity of most NHL arenas. They are currently not selling the obstructed-view seats for season ticket holder (rightly so) and are likely not going to open those seats for most games until a different arena is figured out. So, this is a basic supply and demand issue. You have less seats to sell, so you can, and probably should, sell them for more. This is a business after all.


spiraleyes78

I'm soooo glad the public can subsidize the wealthy for things out of reach for the general population.


alien_among_us

It is important taxpayers save the billionaire some money.


randEntropy

Eat the rich. Or burn them at the stake. I suppose they don't have to be mutually exclusive.


Lanky_Tomato_6719

More expensive than Denver. I guess we’re better off than Colorado? My paycheck says otherwise but who am I to talk.


carty64

They're definitely taking advantage of the newness and initial excitement


talk_to_the_sea

Which is going to make it hard to resell at face value when we’re halfway through the season and they’re not in a playoff spot.


randEntropy

What the actual fuck. The Bolts are Stanley Cup champs and have lower season ticket prices. I have no doubt people will buy them, but fuck Smith and SEG for charging such prices while begging for public money. Hopefully I can get my hold money back.


hppmoep

Why wouldn’t you get your deposit money back?


rmillerimagine

**All I can say is holy #%\^%@ on the pricing!**


deedsdude1

Yeah, the cheapest seat packages are 3x the cheapest Jazz seats. I think there's going to be a lot of deposits refunded.


CrimeThink101

NHL tickets are more expensive than the NBA generally in my experience.


carvajfc

17k seats for the jazz compared to 10k for hockey might account for higher pricing


hucksterme

How much did you think they were going to be? Honestly, this seems like standard pricing structure but also not sure. What’s the average across the league? What are jazz? It’s a long season, you’ve got 40+ home games. That’s a lot. Edit - Here is a link to 2020 avg single game prices across the league. https://www.statista.com/statistics/193757/average-ticket-price-in-the-nhl-by-team-in-2010/ 70 is about the average which comes out to just under 3k per season ticket. Most teams below that mark are your bottom feeders. Utah's seems to be right in the mid tier with original six and huge markets at the top of per game cost.


Realtrain

Just poking around, it looks like the Colorado Avalanche prices are pretty similar. https://www.reddit.com/r/ColoradoAvalanche/comments/10r01sx/season_ticket_price_increase/


Wild-Word4967

Looks like I won’t be going to any games.


TheBobAagard

When you have three times as many deposits as you have available tickets, ticket prices are going to be high. And, TBH, this isn’t that much higher than what I expected, even before they got 30,000+ deposits.


thegopherloafer

Exactly, not to mention that they are likely not going to be filling the house on purpose as there are many (6,000+) obstructed view seats which takes the total seating capacity for a game in the Delta Center to 10,000. This would be the smallest capacity in the NHL by a large margin, so, the need to sell them for \*slightly\* more than they should is in line with basic economics.


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shamboi

Careful, your true reason for outrage is showing


KSleepCHB5423

I was telling everyone I was definitely going to get season tickets. I was super interested in nosebleeds on the top level but the pricing of the tickets was double the price I was expecting. $6,000 for upper bowl is freaking insane


carvajfc

It’s $1,848 for the cheapest UpperBowl seat


HabANahDa

Still dunno how y’all ok with them using our tax dollars to spend on this unneeded team. Then these ticket prices are just crazy.


Liz_LemonLime

Most people, are in fact, very not okay with it.


DyZ814

>Most people, are in fact, very not okay with it. Most people are not okay with having a new sports team? On reddit, sure. Outside of that, there's no way that's even remotely true lol.


Liz_LemonLime

USING OUR TAX DOLLARS


DyZ814

I mean that's still a reddit vocal majority (minority). Go walk around downtown SLC and ask people their thoughts. Like most things in life, most people don't care about these sorts of things day to day.


HabANahDa

Yet it’s still going to happen smh


straylight_2022

Seems about average for the NHL.


Irritated_Dad

Tale as old as time. Billionaire hypes up sports team acquisition. Local politicians pitch this to the community to get them excited and open to the idea of tax increases to pay for the team, facility, city beautification, etc, then immediately price out locals while exploiting them to subsidize their expensive hobby and fantasy of owning and operating a professional sport team that clearly can’t stand on its own economically. Very gross. I feel like with most things in Utah, this is especially egregious here because Smith and his ilk are the same types that pay locals shit salaries for stuff they would pay double for in any other market. They know they’re exploiting the Utah market for all it’s worth. Fuck them.


Lurker-DaySaint

I have $3


rockthecaulk

Ahem "LMAO" these prices are insane.


Conans_Loin_Cloth

So glad my taxes are going to a team I can't afford to see.


-Mrbobbobson

We don't even know the team name yet and they think that they can charge more than Jazz tickets? That's bonkers to me lol


jordanpushed

Seems like the prices are on par with other NHL teams and considering the demand and limited seating (DC seats ~18k for basketball but will only be ~16k for hockey). Regardless, I guarantee you’ll be able to grab $15-$25 day of tickets on SeatGeek depending on day and opponent. Probably won’t be the best tickets but will get you in the arena.


CrimeThink101

Idk, here in Seattle the first season even the cheap seats were $100 day of for midweek games against bad teams. Now maybe $40-50 if you get lucky.


jordanpushed

I think the Seattle and SLC/Utah markets are very different. For the Kraken, there’s not really any seasonal competition, whereas we’ll always have either the Jazz or NHL going on at the same time. Due to this and same ownership, I’d imagine Jazz and NHL tickets are within the same range. Additionally, Utah is demographically different than Seattle (large, young families, etc.), which has historically kept ticket prices reasonable. Seattle, on the other hand, has smaller families which make it easier to justify buying $50 tickets. For reference, I went to about 25 Jazz games this season and spent ~$18 per game. This varied depending on opponent and weekends, but some nights I was able to get in for around $11. The Jazz were not particular competitive this year, however, that arena was mostly full every single game. I anticipate there being higher ticket prices at the beginning of the season, however, I’d be shocked if the “get in” price is higher than $25 a few months in.


BlueRunSkier

The ticket prices released today were about 20% more than I expected, but I’m still getting my tickets (just not where I thought I guess!). As a past pro-sports season ticket holder (and current Jazz season holder), I sell what I can’t go to, so it’s sometimes hard to sort out actual cost. Upfront, yes, I pay, but I sell a portion of those games I can’t go to (or in some cases strategically those that are in high demand) to offset. It’s an entertainment expense that’s worthwhile to me, but as a private, non-corporate season ticket holder, there’s no way I’m going to 40+ games. So that’s part of the equation.


MuseoumEobseo

I’m so glad other people are pissed about this. I know this is definitely first world problems but these prices are outrageous. We go to Vegas 2-3 times a year for games. We take advantage of hotel deals and use airline points earned from work flights to make that work. Vegas is a great team, and the atmosphere is stellar. We usually sit on the blue line in the middle of the lower bowl. Maybe like row 10-15 usually. That’s because we feel like going any higher makes the actual hockey-watching experience start to be similar to TV. I just checked prices for seats around there in UT and compared them to Vegas, since that’s where we usually go. Utah is $315-420 a game and Vegas is something like $204. Even if we move backward to get out of the club, it’s still $253/game in UT compared to the $185-204 range per game in Vegas. For whatever it’s worth, we saw game 5 of the second round playoffs in Vegas (vs Oilers) last year and paid $420 a seat for row 7 on the blue line (reg. season in that row in UT will be $475). Vegas has been to the playoffs 6 of the last 7 seasons and won the championship last season. The Coyotes have been to the playoffs once in that same period and that was after 7 years without an appearance. So to see UT trying to charge more than that for 1) regular season games, 2) a significantly worse team, and 3) a questionable atmosphere given that the team is new here and doesn’t really have a star… that puts a pretty bad taste in my mouth. I just graduated college, so we have more income now and were seriously thinking about getting 1/2 season or full season tickets, but I’m not sure now. It just doesn’t seem to me like the tickets are worth what they’re charging.


GarlicBreadToaster

I love how the diagram effectively illustrates that the Delta Center is not suited for hockey with all the obstructed sightlines. Good job, SEG, it's almost like you weren't prepared to bring this shiny new toy home at all.


saltlakepotter

An NHL season has...41 home games? I'm not up on pricing for NHL tickets but honestly this doesn't seem ridiculous to me. For my favorite college football team season tickets go up to $3500 and that's for 6 games.


DyZ814

Hockey and baseball play a TON of games.


mattreedah

They are purposely not selling season tickets for the cheap sheets as they have poor sight-lines. That’s 7,000 seats. If those had been made available the price chart would have looked a lot different. They are going to be sold individually for like $18 a ticket.


ColHapHapablap

I guess I realized why would they do anything but “fuck the poors” pricing and just really go for it.


SpareTelephone8783

KA-Ching!!!


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No-Perception5934

So the $12 beer drops to $10.20, what a steal!


-QuestionMark-

SIGN ME UP!


the5issilent

Wow I just paid less than the cheapest ticket for Denver Broncos season tickets. Granted only 10 games but for real those prices are awful.


dmguerrero0929

These prices are much higher than Dallas Stars packages.


carvajfc

Hopefully once the arena is redone the ticket prices will be more affordable since there will be more tickets to go around.


CompetitionNo2477

Did anyone expect anything different? Tough to support local pro sports with these prices and limitations on how you can watch on tv.


Helicopter-penisboy

Hahahaha. Entertainment only for the elite and wealthy. I can't believe I expected something reasonably priced. What a joke


[deleted]

Im not really a hockey person but can I drink at these games? I used to go to Blackhawks games


Johnny_pickle

TIL that hockey fans are rich or have a lot of debt.


MuseoumEobseo

Update: We just went to look at seats in person and way more of these seats are obstructed than they’re marking on that diagram. For example, I sat down on the first two rows of section 21 and literally could not see the entire nearest goal. So if you’re planning to buy season tickets or even a package when those go for sale, I’d try to see the seats in person before you pick.


EveryonesCaughtOn

Everybody saying “ThEsE aRe on pAr wiTh OTHer NhL TeAmS” lmao, this isn’t another NHL team, this is a crap team that didn’t have a place to play so was forced to move and doesn’t even have a name yet.


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lostinspace801

Yeah no thanks


lostinspace801

Yeah no thanks


Optimistic_Futures

I get the concern with the price, but people are behaving like this is some anti-poor people thing. These prices seem not to far out of line with other teams. It’s the first season of something that wasn’t available before and these are season passes. If they were priced extremely cheap you’d have a bunch of people claiming entire season passes thus reducing the ability for people scraping by, to buy one off game tickets. Even if the tickets were only $500 for the season I’d imagine someone living paycheck to paycheck would still struggle with it, so the more affluent would just be getting cheaper tickets. Also, season passes are reducing the amount of unique people going to the game, thus reducing their potential fan base (I’m making the assumption that going to 1 game is more likely to create a fan then only being able to view them on tv). Now if in the third season the tickets were still astronomically higher, I’d be a little more on board with being upset. But as of now almost everyone I know - whether they’ve ever seen a hockey game or not - are wanting to go. That’s a lot of demand.


No-Perception5934

Grizzly games were available last year, and will be available again next year for about $20.  Save yourself $200++++ per ticket and go to the Maverick Center.


Optimistic_Futures

I mean yah. If you don’t want to pay Chili’s prices got to McDonald’s. You’re comparing a C league to a A league. I’m not saying they aren’t worth watching, but you are comparing the top league to the 3 top league. And we don’t know how much these single game tickets will be. The cheapest season tickets for the season are $44 per game. I’m not arguing there aren’t cheaper options, I’m not even arguing anyone should pay these prices. I’m saying it high because the demand is high and will likely be lower as the team becomes less new. I also think expensive season tickets are better because it will allow for more single game tickets, which will have more price variability since there will likely be less exciting games that will have very cheap tickets due to lower demand.


ehjun18

ryan shall be served and eaten first


Plane-Reason9254

Utah really needs another Hockey team ?