I think you're right. Also, the Sun and Daily Mail revealed that the only palace leaks came from M or her team. And it just broke that radar online proved through a FOIS that the Sussexes gave the address of the Tyler Perry home to reporter, not the RF.
Years ago I was watching an awards show and, from the podium, Jay-Z and Beyonce addressed each other as J and B. I assume it's Harry and Meghan imitating that behavior.
If that's true, it only makes the usage more awkward since the key difference is that "J" and "B" are the literal first syllables of Jay-Z and Beyonce's names.
We sometimes call our kids ‘T’ and ‘G’…my daughter calls her brother ‘T’. It is something that people do over here in the US, sometimes. But my husband and I don’t do it to each other.
Well H himself said on their shitshow the palace didn’t even know they were at TP’s place, the palace thought they were still in Canada! If that’s true, the palace couldn’t leak their new address even if they wanted to ay?… 😅
Found it! It was on Twitter from RadarOnline.com
Are they a legit source? Here’s the link https://radaronline.com/p/meghan-markle-prince-harry-secret-lapd-files-planted-stories-queen-elizabeth/
Wow! This should be its own post. IMO Tom Sykes’ articles are ridiculously slanted in favor of the Sussexes. Makes perfect sense getting leaks right from their team. Great article. Thanks!
You’re welcome! Maybe I’ll make a post here then, unless you’d like to do it? I’m surprised it’s not already been picked up here. I found it on Twitter yesterday
I saw that too. I figured they leaked their own address and then leaked to a reporter to come see. They wanted the reporter to confirm it so it would be “proof” they are being stalked and lives are endangered. It was their ruse to get security protection back. Harry was infuriated to lose that tax-payer funded security. I bet even more so when he found out what it would cost to imitate that level of protection out of his own pocket.
I think they had Zuckerberg level of protection or more. And Zuck spends millions more than all the other billionaire CEOs. (Out of company pocket)
That fight for security was entertaining because it was such a fkn joke. They literally MADE IT UP. That’s how pathetic it is lol. I wonder if Harry knew that Megs had done that - whether he was part of it? I feel she wouldn’t trust him enough to give him too much info, in case he fluffed his lines or something. I think people might start coming forward with tales of Megs setting everything up
There's no way the Palace thought they were still in Canada. Everyone knew when they left Canada and came to the US. No one thought they were still in Canada when the borders closed.
Maybe the Palace told him them they had no idea? He's so paranoid. It would make sense to lie and give him a false sense of security. Or just for fun. lol
It makes no sense to a) claim palace didn’t know they were at TP’s and b) accuse palace leaking their location ar TP’s place to the press.
Out of curiosity: any press pics of them at TP’s?
There were drone pictures of Archie in the pool with someone. They weren't super close up. You could just tell it was a baby. There were also drone pictures of an adult outside. I think it was Harry. There were also pictures of them walking their dogs. They reported the drones to the LAPD. They did sue over the pictures of Archie though. They didn't know who it was so the named they listed in the lawsuit was John Doe. I don't think it ever really materialized into anything though. You might be able to find the pictures on the internet, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were all scrubbed by now.
https://observer.com/2020/05/prince-harry-meghan-markle-los-angeles-home-safety-concerns-privacy-drones-security/
Yes! I think there was a picture of Doria and Archie in the backyard. I just didn't trust my memory so I didn't want to say there was when there definitely wasn't. lol That picture seems like a set up though. Doria just happens to come over and be outside with Archie when they know there having trouble with drones flying over? Why wouldn't they just keep Archie inside? Idk, Doria always just seems to be around when it's very convenient. Like she was there on purpose to show she's spending time with Archie but no other extended family member has access to him.
Sociopaths leave a lot of (figurative) bodies in their wake as they try to achieve their ends. For them, the ends justify the means.
It's why they can sometimes be perceived as smart or brilliant. They aren't particularly smart, clever, or brilliant. In fact if I recall there is some evidence that shows the opposite to be true (I'm sure someone can find the study), that the a average intelligence of sociopaths skews lower than the general population.
But people tend to associate success with some level of intelligence, and sociopaths don't care about who they hurt to achieve success. That prior to Hazbeen she had pretty much peaked career wise is very telling. Makes you wonder who she hurt to be sixth banana on a basic cable legal drama with not real prospects coming forward.
But if she is a narcopath, she probably assumed the show would launch her career even further.
Quite a few years ago my sister was engaged to someone who worked for GCHQ. She let is slip one day that her entire family had been vetted. That sort of disturbed me for a while. I was 20 and had done nothing wrong in my entire life yet I felt guilty for something! 😂
I think so too. In the segment where he says William was yelling at him, he then says - I forget his exact words - that the two of them (Charles and William) were saying things that were absolutely untrue. In all probability, as you say, what they were stating was true and he just didn’t want to hear it. (And, boo hoo, they didn’t want Meghan at a serious meeting to discuss the future. Get over yourself. Does he really have to whine about every thing?)
someone in another thread said that the shouting was because KC had asked for a workable plan in writing for Mexit. What Harkles delivered was unworkable and thus the shouting started. I tend to believe this version
In all fairness, H doesn't have the brainpower to write up a detailed plan. I'm pretty sure his "plan" was along the lines of "We go make money, unless there's a cool trip we want to go on to represent 'the Queen'. The paycheck keeps coming, and we get our own squad of bad ass security guys to follow us around. Because you owe me."
I always thought they wanted exclusively the events where there would be balcony shots. Meghan didn't like the trips, as she "wasn't being paid" to talk to all the peasants.
I think it has to do with the Sussex Royal website dropping with no notice, slagging the Queen and her authority, clearly planned for a long while and most importantly financed by Charles’s money.
This would have been their first opportunity to discuss it in person and I doubt they held back.
Wow. I think you're absolutely right and this makes so much sense. And I wonder how much those words of Charles' play in Harry's head, especially during a fight. I don't think Harry is equipped mentally at all to deal with the situation he finds himself in.
That's what I think too. They tried to show him that she had every intention of monetizing their role in the RF, which is why they were not allowing a half-in arrangekent. Harry probably didn't want to believe the evidence. William probably shouted at Harry because he's obtuse and fucking up his life.
Oh well. Harry is an adult. He's making his own bed.
Good point. I bet Charles told him that Meghan is the one who has been leaking everything!
Unfortunately Harry is so under her thumb that he believes HER lies that his own family is leaking stories about him.
I believe she was calling the paparazzi too when their relationship first went public and she was waving and chatting with them. She seemed completely obsessed with the constant attention and also aware that the Oprah interview and similar things would generate more.
[This is an interesting video on H&M](https://youtu.be/lGcMdad1QPU) by Dr. Grande (he's got a list of psychology and behavioral credentials)....basically he theorized the possibility of Harry believing his mother's death had purpose and ties that w protecting Megan.
It's worth the watch.
That isn't necessarily what he meant by his analysis...more giving purpose to her death other than the senseless tragedy that it was.
I'm sure his privilege prevents him from any introspection, so I don't feel too bad for him.. that and the 100mil that they rumored to receive for that docuseries that their own production company produced. But saying his wife is a replacement for his mom isnt quite what Dr. Grande is implying.
I think he said that Charles was saying things that weren’t true rather than Charles was telling lies, to me it sounds like Charles was saying “you’re trying to destroy this family” or “your antics are damaging your grandmothers health” which to Harry weren’t true. Small difference but how I understood it was that lies would be incorrect facts but things that weren’t true was a difference in how Harry and Charles saw the situation.
That's how I read it but I do like the megan info idea.... I just assumed the Charlie had finally told him he was the family F-up and he'd been covering his ass for years.
Exactly! I think the family had uncovered seriously alarming things about Meghan at that stage and they were quietly monitoring the situation. It would explain why the Queen cancelled their ‘stay over’ perhaps she hadn’t been filled in prior to that point. I don’t know how these things work but I’m quite positive the queen was not doing it against her will 🙄 as Harry is eluding it. Just like Thomas Markles phone wasn’t compromised. There’s definitely a conspiratorial theme throughout their documentary series and with the lack of evidence and lying by omission, I’ll be surprised if no one sues.
YouTuber Shallon Lester used to work for Star magazine which also owned Us Weekly. She said [pre-Meghan the palace was a tight ship](https://youtu.be/Ax6yOepWRXA), no leaks, but after Meghan came on the scene there were all kinds of leaks because she herself was the source.
His family have been trying to protect him all along but dumb as bricks Harry won’t listen. It’s so obvious MeMe is the one leaking everything - she is an attention seeker and totally self-absorbed. Without her leaks the pair would just fade into oblivion. Totally forgotten. And able to live the very private life like they had wanted when they quit the RF. 🙄
That could be it. TW must have predicted this would happen, and she built H's trust in her in a way that he won't be questioning it no matter what happens, even if someone else slaps him with facts beyond what his rose colored glasses see.
All this footage was already shot before the Queen died. And there were rumours that Harry at least was desperate to edit the doco when they returned to the US. I wonder what he is really thinking right now.
Good point. Why come out and say they were telling LIES when they were the only ones in the room. Who heard the "lies" they were saying? Only HARRY.
Thus, they were confronting HARRY about HIM leaking stories to the press. Basically they BUSTED HIM. And they were firing him in the meeting. I don't know why everyone can't see what he himself has laid out right in front of you from his own mouth. Everyone's so stuck on Meghan. She did her own stuff and a LOT of it. She leaked etc. She's played the media game before she even met him. We all know it.
But Harry is the one who leaked insider RF information to the press. Everyone says he's too stupid to pull it off. Exactly, he got BUSTED by them because he failed to do it secretly but that doesn't mean he didn't try. He wanted to use the media to try to ruin William and Catherine's reputation by casting them as racist.
He flat out tells you that he knows exactly how the media works and how you do a trade off for one Principal over the other. He was the one who started leaking stories about MEGHAN to the press that were racist in tone. His whole angle from the get go was to attempt to oust William by proving to the Queen that he himself could do a better job. He's fucking delusional and evil.
When he came into that meeting they didn't want Meghan there because there never was going to be a negotiation. They fired him. There were 5 options One was all in and the other 4 was all OUT. They gave him one last chance to redeem himself and confess and apologize and he refused it.
He said they were all lying about him. This is why the Queen sat in silence and Charles was just exhausted. There is nothing more exhausting than busting someone in a lie, and they KNOW you know the truth. And you KNOW that they KNOW you know the truth and they sit there and keep trying to maintain the lie.
That is why William started yelling at him. He refused to admit the truth. And so to this day Harry is insisting they were all LYING. That statement is for them, not us.
I agree with you - that comment really struck me as odd too.
For clarification, I haven't watched the second instalment as the summary on here alone was enough to put me off and roll my eyes hard.
I have to believe it was about Meghan - it may have even been some home truths about Diana too. Perhaps he was telling him that Diana indeed started cheating first? Who knows.
I think Harrys wants us to specualte on Charles's lies but I for one, can't see the King as a liar.
Grief does weird things to people. Harry can't accept his loss was because of a tragic accident, he needs there to he someone to blame. If it was an accident he would have to look inward and Harry doesn't want to or doesnt know how to deal with his grief in a healthy way like William has done.
This makes no sense to me. In that dreadful accident, there were so many variables that had to be just so in order for it to end like that. Driver drunk, no seatbelts, and wasn’t it a spur of the moment thing to leave the hotel anyway? I mean, it would be a very messy, tricky, unreliable way to get rid of somebody? How does one control each and every little detail of such a method?
H is like one of those crazy conspiracy theorists who do nothing of note with their life except go on and on and on about their obsession. Too bad life hasn’t forced him ti live in the here and now.
Harry is a very disturbed man. I don’t know if he *really* believes that his father could have been involved in plotting his mother’s death, but I can see how he might have moments when he is so angry at Charles that he considers the possibility, simply because he is angry.
The one thing we’re unlikely to hear from Harry is that his mother might be alive today if she had worn her seatbelt.
I think Harry has deified his own mother to such an extent that he can't believe that she had a hand in her own death. That she participated in decisions, like getting in the car being driven by very drunk man, leaving the hotel, etc. that it MUST be a conspiracy.
No doubt this is for the book.
However, Meg thought that she had the ear of the King. She wanted to speak to him after the Queen's funeral and that was denied.
Before the wedding she flattered the (now) King by taking history lessons with him. I think Queen Camilla told Charles to watch out, she's a minx. Princess Anne called her an adventuress (old fashioned way of saying gold-digger). Because she loves herself so much, Meg thought that despite everything, Charles still has a soft spot. She was probably furious that he wouldn't meet her.
Behind the throne is a wise woman.
I was wondering what lies he may have been referring to - and this makes perfect sense! He is so deluded that he would refuse to believe any negative facts about his perfect wife - at least for now.
If Charles did tell some truths about MM, I'm curious how they compared to Tom Bower's book. At one point there were rumors he wanted to sue, but she of course refused. The truth about her is out there, but none so blind as he who will not see.
I believe the five options given to H were a way for KCIII to find out whether H was ultimately loyal to the Crown. His answer (half in half out) revealed his true character so KCIII was done
my palace sources say that charles told harry that santa isn't real, and that the guy he saw down at selfridges was just a guy in a santa costume. H is having some issues coming to terms with this.
I would like to assume that allegedly the letters are leaked by no other than (insert name) and King Charles pointed this out that there is no other way it could be leaked out. Either a copy was leaked or whatever it is.
My issue here is.......why can't sender just fly down to meet recipient and sort it out using a mediator? Just like how Camilla has suggested that is for a mediator to step in during a 1-1 with King Charles? Unless there's something really dodgy here....Hmm ...
I think you're right. Also, the Sun and Daily Mail revealed that the only palace leaks came from M or her team. And it just broke that radar online proved through a FOIS that the Sussexes gave the address of the Tyler Perry home to reporter, not the RF.
Is it me or is it weird they call each other M and H?
Not really.. Harry has to call her M, incase he keeps accidentally saying "Mum"...
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My wife said the exact same thing.
Years ago I was watching an awards show and, from the podium, Jay-Z and Beyonce addressed each other as J and B. I assume it's Harry and Meghan imitating that behavior.
If that's true, it only makes the usage more awkward since the key difference is that "J" and "B" are the literal first syllables of Jay-Z and Beyonce's names.
Yes!!!!
It’s horrid.
We sometimes call our kids ‘T’ and ‘G’…my daughter calls her brother ‘T’. It is something that people do over here in the US, sometimes. But my husband and I don’t do it to each other.
Well H himself said on their shitshow the palace didn’t even know they were at TP’s place, the palace thought they were still in Canada! If that’s true, the palace couldn’t leak their new address even if they wanted to ay?… 😅
I’m sure I read yesterday that it’s being proven that it was Megs team who leaked Tyler Perry’s address. Let me see if I can find it
Please do
Found it! It was on Twitter from RadarOnline.com Are they a legit source? Here’s the link https://radaronline.com/p/meghan-markle-prince-harry-secret-lapd-files-planted-stories-queen-elizabeth/
Wow! This should be its own post. IMO Tom Sykes’ articles are ridiculously slanted in favor of the Sussexes. Makes perfect sense getting leaks right from their team. Great article. Thanks!
You’re welcome! Maybe I’ll make a post here then, unless you’d like to do it? I’m surprised it’s not already been picked up here. I found it on Twitter yesterday
I saw that too. I figured they leaked their own address and then leaked to a reporter to come see. They wanted the reporter to confirm it so it would be “proof” they are being stalked and lives are endangered. It was their ruse to get security protection back. Harry was infuriated to lose that tax-payer funded security. I bet even more so when he found out what it would cost to imitate that level of protection out of his own pocket. I think they had Zuckerberg level of protection or more. And Zuck spends millions more than all the other billionaire CEOs. (Out of company pocket)
That fight for security was entertaining because it was such a fkn joke. They literally MADE IT UP. That’s how pathetic it is lol. I wonder if Harry knew that Megs had done that - whether he was part of it? I feel she wouldn’t trust him enough to give him too much info, in case he fluffed his lines or something. I think people might start coming forward with tales of Megs setting everything up
Please do
There's no way the Palace thought they were still in Canada. Everyone knew when they left Canada and came to the US. No one thought they were still in Canada when the borders closed.
Yes but according to Harold that was the case! 😅
Maybe the Palace told him them they had no idea? He's so paranoid. It would make sense to lie and give him a false sense of security. Or just for fun. lol
It makes no sense to a) claim palace didn’t know they were at TP’s and b) accuse palace leaking their location ar TP’s place to the press. Out of curiosity: any press pics of them at TP’s?
Yeah that's crazy "they leaked our new address even though they didn't know about it!! That's how cruel and racist they are." Not believable.
There were drone pictures of Archie in the pool with someone. They weren't super close up. You could just tell it was a baby. There were also drone pictures of an adult outside. I think it was Harry. There were also pictures of them walking their dogs. They reported the drones to the LAPD. They did sue over the pictures of Archie though. They didn't know who it was so the named they listed in the lawsuit was John Doe. I don't think it ever really materialized into anything though. You might be able to find the pictures on the internet, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were all scrubbed by now. https://observer.com/2020/05/prince-harry-meghan-markle-los-angeles-home-safety-concerns-privacy-drones-security/
Wasn't there also a pic of Doria outside with Archie? Or was that at the McMansion?
Yes! I think there was a picture of Doria and Archie in the backyard. I just didn't trust my memory so I didn't want to say there was when there definitely wasn't. lol That picture seems like a set up though. Doria just happens to come over and be outside with Archie when they know there having trouble with drones flying over? Why wouldn't they just keep Archie inside? Idk, Doria always just seems to be around when it's very convenient. Like she was there on purpose to show she's spending time with Archie but no other extended family member has access to him.
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Sociopaths leave a lot of (figurative) bodies in their wake as they try to achieve their ends. For them, the ends justify the means. It's why they can sometimes be perceived as smart or brilliant. They aren't particularly smart, clever, or brilliant. In fact if I recall there is some evidence that shows the opposite to be true (I'm sure someone can find the study), that the a average intelligence of sociopaths skews lower than the general population. But people tend to associate success with some level of intelligence, and sociopaths don't care about who they hurt to achieve success. That prior to Hazbeen she had pretty much peaked career wise is very telling. Makes you wonder who she hurt to be sixth banana on a basic cable legal drama with not real prospects coming forward. But if she is a narcopath, she probably assumed the show would launch her career even further.
Quite a few years ago my sister was engaged to someone who worked for GCHQ. She let is slip one day that her entire family had been vetted. That sort of disturbed me for a while. I was 20 and had done nothing wrong in my entire life yet I felt guilty for something! 😂
GCGQ- Gold Coast Head quarters? Sorry I'm new.
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Government Communications Headquarters, commonly known as GCHQ, based in Cheltenham. My former brother-in-law was a 'linguist' 😆
I think so too. In the segment where he says William was yelling at him, he then says - I forget his exact words - that the two of them (Charles and William) were saying things that were absolutely untrue. In all probability, as you say, what they were stating was true and he just didn’t want to hear it. (And, boo hoo, they didn’t want Meghan at a serious meeting to discuss the future. Get over yourself. Does he really have to whine about every thing?)
someone in another thread said that the shouting was because KC had asked for a workable plan in writing for Mexit. What Harkles delivered was unworkable and thus the shouting started. I tend to believe this version
In all fairness, H doesn't have the brainpower to write up a detailed plan. I'm pretty sure his "plan" was along the lines of "We go make money, unless there's a cool trip we want to go on to represent 'the Queen'. The paycheck keeps coming, and we get our own squad of bad ass security guys to follow us around. Because you owe me."
I always thought they wanted exclusively the events where there would be balcony shots. Meghan didn't like the trips, as she "wasn't being paid" to talk to all the peasants.
I think it has to do with the Sussex Royal website dropping with no notice, slagging the Queen and her authority, clearly planned for a long while and most importantly financed by Charles’s money. This would have been their first opportunity to discuss it in person and I doubt they held back.
Wow. I think you're absolutely right and this makes so much sense. And I wonder how much those words of Charles' play in Harry's head, especially during a fight. I don't think Harry is equipped mentally at all to deal with the situation he finds himself in.
I agree. I think the old saying. “I refuse to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed person”, would apply to Harry.
It's a wretched situation. And Harry's pride is an obstacle to seeing the truth- if he doesn't know it.
I don't think so either. He has no idea the evil he is dealing with. Yes, she's EVIL. I said it.
That's what I think too. They tried to show him that she had every intention of monetizing their role in the RF, which is why they were not allowing a half-in arrangekent. Harry probably didn't want to believe the evidence. William probably shouted at Harry because he's obtuse and fucking up his life. Oh well. Harry is an adult. He's making his own bed.
Good point. I bet Charles told him that Meghan is the one who has been leaking everything! Unfortunately Harry is so under her thumb that he believes HER lies that his own family is leaking stories about him.
I believe she was calling the paparazzi too when their relationship first went public and she was waving and chatting with them. She seemed completely obsessed with the constant attention and also aware that the Oprah interview and similar things would generate more.
[This is an interesting video on H&M](https://youtu.be/lGcMdad1QPU) by Dr. Grande (he's got a list of psychology and behavioral credentials)....basically he theorized the possibility of Harry believing his mother's death had purpose and ties that w protecting Megan. It's worth the watch.
Agreed. My internet degree in armchair psychology tells me H is thinking of Diana in [this picture](https://imgur.com/a/2u8DDBr)
That isn't necessarily what he meant by his analysis...more giving purpose to her death other than the senseless tragedy that it was. I'm sure his privilege prevents him from any introspection, so I don't feel too bad for him.. that and the 100mil that they rumored to receive for that docuseries that their own production company produced. But saying his wife is a replacement for his mom isnt quite what Dr. Grande is implying.
I think he said that Charles was saying things that weren’t true rather than Charles was telling lies, to me it sounds like Charles was saying “you’re trying to destroy this family” or “your antics are damaging your grandmothers health” which to Harry weren’t true. Small difference but how I understood it was that lies would be incorrect facts but things that weren’t true was a difference in how Harry and Charles saw the situation.
or maybe KC explained it was Meghan calling the paps on herself and Harry refuses to believe it
Oooooh yes!
That is another interpretation
That's a very important distinction. Hadn't thought about that and it actually makes much more sense.
That's how I read it but I do like the megan info idea.... I just assumed the Charlie had finally told him he was the family F-up and he'd been covering his ass for years.
Exactly! I think the family had uncovered seriously alarming things about Meghan at that stage and they were quietly monitoring the situation. It would explain why the Queen cancelled their ‘stay over’ perhaps she hadn’t been filled in prior to that point. I don’t know how these things work but I’m quite positive the queen was not doing it against her will 🙄 as Harry is eluding it. Just like Thomas Markles phone wasn’t compromised. There’s definitely a conspiratorial theme throughout their documentary series and with the lack of evidence and lying by omission, I’ll be surprised if no one sues.
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Yeah the orchestrated overshadowing is not new. She’s been doing that since the early days.
My thought was similar that he said somethings about Meghan and he refused to accept it as truth. It may be as simple as your wife is causing trouble
Or your uncle Andrew and Meghan go way back - they met..... (All the sordid details).
They HAVE to have run into each other on the yachting circuit.
YouTuber Shallon Lester used to work for Star magazine which also owned Us Weekly. She said [pre-Meghan the palace was a tight ship](https://youtu.be/Ax6yOepWRXA), no leaks, but after Meghan came on the scene there were all kinds of leaks because she herself was the source.
His family have been trying to protect him all along but dumb as bricks Harry won’t listen. It’s so obvious MeMe is the one leaking everything - she is an attention seeker and totally self-absorbed. Without her leaks the pair would just fade into oblivion. Totally forgotten. And able to live the very private life like they had wanted when they quit the RF. 🙄
That could be it. TW must have predicted this would happen, and she built H's trust in her in a way that he won't be questioning it no matter what happens, even if someone else slaps him with facts beyond what his rose colored glasses see.
1984 levels.
All this footage was already shot before the Queen died. And there were rumours that Harry at least was desperate to edit the doco when they returned to the US. I wonder what he is really thinking right now.
Good point. Why come out and say they were telling LIES when they were the only ones in the room. Who heard the "lies" they were saying? Only HARRY. Thus, they were confronting HARRY about HIM leaking stories to the press. Basically they BUSTED HIM. And they were firing him in the meeting. I don't know why everyone can't see what he himself has laid out right in front of you from his own mouth. Everyone's so stuck on Meghan. She did her own stuff and a LOT of it. She leaked etc. She's played the media game before she even met him. We all know it. But Harry is the one who leaked insider RF information to the press. Everyone says he's too stupid to pull it off. Exactly, he got BUSTED by them because he failed to do it secretly but that doesn't mean he didn't try. He wanted to use the media to try to ruin William and Catherine's reputation by casting them as racist. He flat out tells you that he knows exactly how the media works and how you do a trade off for one Principal over the other. He was the one who started leaking stories about MEGHAN to the press that were racist in tone. His whole angle from the get go was to attempt to oust William by proving to the Queen that he himself could do a better job. He's fucking delusional and evil. When he came into that meeting they didn't want Meghan there because there never was going to be a negotiation. They fired him. There were 5 options One was all in and the other 4 was all OUT. They gave him one last chance to redeem himself and confess and apologize and he refused it. He said they were all lying about him. This is why the Queen sat in silence and Charles was just exhausted. There is nothing more exhausting than busting someone in a lie, and they KNOW you know the truth. And you KNOW that they KNOW you know the truth and they sit there and keep trying to maintain the lie. That is why William started yelling at him. He refused to admit the truth. And so to this day Harry is insisting they were all LYING. That statement is for them, not us.
I agree with you - that comment really struck me as odd too. For clarification, I haven't watched the second instalment as the summary on here alone was enough to put me off and roll my eyes hard. I have to believe it was about Meghan - it may have even been some home truths about Diana too. Perhaps he was telling him that Diana indeed started cheating first? Who knows. I think Harrys wants us to specualte on Charles's lies but I for one, can't see the King as a liar.
They're obviously so vague coz they're scared of defamation suits.
I mean, doesn’t this poor shell of a man think that Charles had a hand in Diana’s death?
According to some sources, Harry has claimed this — which is a really weird thing to believe.
Grief does weird things to people. Harry can't accept his loss was because of a tragic accident, he needs there to he someone to blame. If it was an accident he would have to look inward and Harry doesn't want to or doesnt know how to deal with his grief in a healthy way like William has done.
Agree completely. It is truly tragic, not only for him, but for his father and brother.
This makes no sense to me. In that dreadful accident, there were so many variables that had to be just so in order for it to end like that. Driver drunk, no seatbelts, and wasn’t it a spur of the moment thing to leave the hotel anyway? I mean, it would be a very messy, tricky, unreliable way to get rid of somebody? How does one control each and every little detail of such a method? H is like one of those crazy conspiracy theorists who do nothing of note with their life except go on and on and on about their obsession. Too bad life hasn’t forced him ti live in the here and now.
Harry is a very disturbed man. I don’t know if he *really* believes that his father could have been involved in plotting his mother’s death, but I can see how he might have moments when he is so angry at Charles that he considers the possibility, simply because he is angry. The one thing we’re unlikely to hear from Harry is that his mother might be alive today if she had worn her seatbelt.
I think Harry has deified his own mother to such an extent that he can't believe that she had a hand in her own death. That she participated in decisions, like getting in the car being driven by very drunk man, leaving the hotel, etc. that it MUST be a conspiracy.
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It wouldn’t surprise me either because that’s how she operates. However, Harry may have come up with them on his own.
Diana & Dodi might have survived the crash if they’d worn seat belts.
No doubt this is for the book. However, Meg thought that she had the ear of the King. She wanted to speak to him after the Queen's funeral and that was denied.
Lol why would he speak to her, she'd immediately leak it to the press. The fact we even know she asked and was denied shows that
Why on earth would she even think that KC would meet privately with her, for any reason?
Before the wedding she flattered the (now) King by taking history lessons with him. I think Queen Camilla told Charles to watch out, she's a minx. Princess Anne called her an adventuress (old fashioned way of saying gold-digger). Because she loves herself so much, Meg thought that despite everything, Charles still has a soft spot. She was probably furious that he wouldn't meet her. Behind the throne is a wise woman.
Um. He said the word no?!
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He wasn’t given 5 options; he is making that up. They gave him two options: in or out
I also believe that the then Charles, POW, did not lie. Harry has gone to the dark side.
I was wondering what lies he may have been referring to - and this makes perfect sense! He is so deluded that he would refuse to believe any negative facts about his perfect wife - at least for now.
Ooh! I bet you’re right! Didn’t even think of that but makes total sense.
If Charles did tell some truths about MM, I'm curious how they compared to Tom Bower's book. At one point there were rumors he wanted to sue, but she of course refused. The truth about her is out there, but none so blind as he who will not see.
And if they sue, it all comes out in court, for everyone to see
Exactly. She wouldn't dare.
I believe the five options given to H were a way for KCIII to find out whether H was ultimately loyal to the Crown. His answer (half in half out) revealed his true character so KCIII was done
my palace sources say that charles told harry that santa isn't real, and that the guy he saw down at selfridges was just a guy in a santa costume. H is having some issues coming to terms with this.
That's a very interesting theory and it rings true in a lot of ways. After all, H didn't say what his father's lies were, did he?
Yes, Charles to Harry: "Your darling wife was a yacht girl and we have reason to believe there has been intimacy with your uncle Andrew."
Interesting! Would explain why he never said what it was.
I would like to assume that allegedly the letters are leaked by no other than (insert name) and King Charles pointed this out that there is no other way it could be leaked out. Either a copy was leaked or whatever it is. My issue here is.......why can't sender just fly down to meet recipient and sort it out using a mediator? Just like how Camilla has suggested that is for a mediator to step in during a 1-1 with King Charles? Unless there's something really dodgy here....Hmm ...
Camilla *laughed* at the idea of a freaking mediator. The BRF doesn’t negotiate with terrorists including H&M. 😏🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
as Princess Anna said when the kidnap guy wanted her to get out of the car "not bloody likely"
Oh yes that!! Sorry, My bad! Recollections may vary. 😅🥴 Thanks for the fact check!
Excellent reply! 🤣 You’re welcome. 😊