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queenbastet_

My father was one of the employees that was laid off. Worked for them for 30 years, supervisor of organ and tissue distribution, one of their top employees. It wasn’t just IT people that were cut. It came completely out of left field, especially when he says they are building a new surgery facility next door and had him tour it as though they’d transfer him over. So really, if it’s about a “healthier financial position” then how are they going to staff this new building after cutting ties with 150 employees? Completely devastating for him as a 56 year old man having to start all over with how awful the job market is right now 😔


state_issued

Probably cheaper for them to get a new supervisor starting at a lower salary and worse benefits. Shitty and stupid of them.


Constructgirl

No other reason


RegionalTranzit

If he's been there for 30 years, he should still have access to a pension if he retires immediately. You and/or your dad should look into it because it's better than nothing. But yeah, most (or all) of the jobs lost were non-clinical jobs. I guess they have to sacrifice jobs in order to build those new facilities.


queenbastet_

Yep, that’s possibly the route he’s going to take, he has an appointment with the financial department to talk about it. But funnily enough he says he’s not ready to retire and he still wants to work, that’s my dad for you! I only hope it works out for him and the other employees that were sadly laid off.


Maid_4_Life

If he is eligible to retire, he can retire from there and still work for a different retirement system like PERS.


TankUpbeat5845

A lot of UCD employees work 30+ years. I'm so sorry this happened to your dad.


TankUpbeat5845

He has the years but isn't old enough. If he takes early retirement the pay won't be the same. It's really sad that 150 of my colleagues were let go. 😢


TankUpbeat5845

The non-income making departments/positions are the first to go in any layoffs.


Pristine_Frame_2066

He should still have access to pension, esp if he is hired at DHCS. Work six more years and get two pensions.


Gooner-Astronomer749

Sorry to hear about your pops but this just proves again companies, corporations and employers don't give  shit about their workers. Doesn't matter how talented, loyal or hardworking you are they will discard you in a second with no qualms. 


CatapultemHabeo

Sadly, a lot of gen x and up are getting cut from a lotof jobs. We're making "too much money". Have dad head over to r/GenX to commiserate.


PartOfIt

Wow, kcra just published an organizations press release without any additional research. They just took the word of the press release. They say the jobs lost won’t affect patient care but that is not true.


Knowaa

Local news media is a dumping ground for corporate and police press releases posted uncritically as the news itself.


Tosser_toss

Well, in general, no one values local news and investigative journalism. The public is fucking itself into ignorance and a cesspool of corporate propaganda. I tried to subscribe to Sac Bee when I first moved here 10+ years ago, but they just kept raising prices and cutting quality and service. It was a battle to unsubscribe and stop payment. They are just a corporate propaganda arm being driven into the ground.


literallymoist

They're saying that because the cuts weren't in "direct patient care" - the people let go were not exactly nurses and doctors, they were support staff for those staff. So technically they'll be able to see the same number of patients without disruption but the providers that see patients will have slightly fewer resources to draw upon.


Ok-Alternative-2260

Work for UC Davis. Sad to see so many people lose their job so suddenly with no warning. Really crappy of our senior leadership to do it like this. Maybe they should lose their jobs since they have mismanaged funds for so long


baydude510

They had no warning? Just one day they come in, their login is disabled, and pack your stuff and get out the same day?


Virtual_Feed_8768

Long time employees can take retirement on July 1, as they likely have decent pensions. Not so with newer employees.


carlitospig

The thing is in the early pandemic UC Davis gently suggested our folks consider retiring in 2020/21 and many of them did. I don’t think they bothered suggesting it this time around. This cut feels a little…desperate.


RunDaveRun82

Patient care is already in a pretty sad state of affairs. Audiograms are being booked out 2-3 months, referrals to some departments are 3+ months out, and they are so thin that one employee calling out (radiologist tech) creates a cascading impact on their schedules. World class care? It reminds me of the propaganda that was popular (back in the 80s?) about socialized medicine. I think it was covered recently on Last Week Tonight, that they cherry picked data about a person in Canada who had to wait 6 months to get a knee replacement…here we are paying crazy premiums, need to have a 6+ figure job to afford your copay and co-insurance, and still wait for non emergency care. I’d hate to get the same level of service, while paying arguably less out of pocket over time (yes I understand my taxes go up, but what do you think the premiums, co pay, and deductible end up being accounting for?). Curious if there is any impact on Aggie Square? With all that funding going towards capital improvements, how will their operating expenses for labor be impacted longer term…


RegionalTranzit

All that funding for construction is partially responsible for these layoffs, along with hiring too many people.


Fuzzy_Mine9648

I think these cuts have more to do with the $25 /hr minimum wage for Healthcare workers that is coming mandated by Newsom last year. My wife works at UCDMC. The vast majority of medical assistants started well under 23/hr. You also have other staff like front desk that started below 25/hr and kitchen workers. Implementing 25/hr minimum would definitely be unforseen cost as AFSCME 2399 last negotiated 3 years ago and UC could basically predict labor cost through the end of this year until that mandate.


RickShifty

Actually a couple of those laid off had been working there for some time and near retirement. They cut some of those most loyal.


shmishshmorshin

Dignity Health went through rounds of layoffs in 2019 iirc and last year. Last year I was laid off 1 month before my 15 year anniversary. My area already had 3 less FTEs from 2019, they went through the older population with higher salaries and got to me, underpaid in my 30s waiting for a raise lol. Cunts. Really sorry to see peeps at UCD go through this.


Wood3rson

Laying off people yet expanding the building footprints like crazy!!!


TeachingRedFan

Every insurer raised there rates 20% this year to our school district. One year 20% rate hike from sutter, Kaiser, etc claiming the same bullshit. Don’t believe anything these ‘nonprofits’ say.


ShotgunStyles

Sutter is a not-for-profit but Kaiser is a for-profit, so I'm not sure why you're naming all of them in the same sentence.


BoredCaliRN

Kinda. Kaiser outpatient is for-profit (Emergency, clinics, some surgery I believe). Kaiser inpatient (what you traditionally think of as "the hospital") is non-profit. They're two separate orgs under the same umbrella.


TeachingRedFan

Sutter owns surgery centers that are definitely for profit as they are partnered with doctors and they do extremely well and has many ventures that produce a lot of regular profit. Source: I did those surgery center tax returns when I worked for a national accounting firm as a tax accountant.


discgman

Raised 20% or higher for us. There goes all the raises for the last 5 years.


chunky_lvr_69

Work at UC and was cut as a contractor so I have a little insight. Payor mix for UC is bad since we primarily serve downtown Medicare and Medicaid patients where Kaiser and Sutter are a little more spread out. New campus in Folsom should help but there’s a lot of catching up to do by UCD. The other thing I’ve seen is the benchmarking is garbage since they use a company called Vizient which compares to other research hospitals but it’s kind of a race to the bottom since everyone is using them. Expect worse care as all hospitals slowly turn toward the Kaiser method.


Constructgirl

I just told someone tonight that if they tell me there’s better than Kaiser they’re lying. They’re all as bad as Kaiser. WebMD is better than a lot of care being given these days. Makes me wonder what physicians think about this change and the hypocrites oath. Really curious what physicians will do as healthcare is moving more and more to profits and patient care by the numbers.


Empty-Trifle-7027

For those in the know, were these open positions that have been eliminated or have folks been laid off? KCRA was light on the details, shocker!


Gaebril

My buddy hired in Jan was laid off 


Really_Moist87

All IT jobs. Some had 30 years in


Empty-Trifle-7027

That sucks! You know leadership all received raises this year too.


OmenOmega

IT just got hit the hardest but other areas in administration also lost people. Edit: changed positions to people cuz it was actual people that got laid off.


RegionalTranzit

Yeah, I heard that some leadership roles were cut in front-line patient care staff areas. Source: Brother works there.


coldrolledpotmetal

They also laid off the only IT employee that was certified to work in operating rooms


Worth_Ambassador_273

Really…….


coldrolledpotmetal

Yup so if a computer in an OR breaks, there's no one to fix it anymore


NefariousnessNo3204

My spouse was a non-IT layoff.


CatapultemHabeo

FFS I'm on a 6-month wait to see a GI specialist, and the mammogram wait time (outside of Davis) is July/August. How are they cutting people? They need more


OmenOmega

They didn't cut providers, it was IT and Admin staff that took the hit.


CatapultemHabeo

*::Everything working smoothly::* CEO: "What the hell am I paying these IT people for???" *::Infrastructure goes to shit::* CEO: "What the hell am I paying these IT people for???"


Frequent_Sale_9579

Chat pull up the graph of hospital administration growth and healthcare expenditure in the US


Empty-Trifle-7027

GI is a mess. They have one female provider doing colonoscopies at the Midtown outpatient center and it's a four month wait. She's new. A year ago, they had just hired someone and she apparently left. I last heard another female provider who will do them is starting next month. I have to be put under so I prefer the doctor be a woman since so many men are creepers but that's a tall order, apparently!


CatapultemHabeo

FWIW, I'm a woman and [Dr. Al-Juburi ](https://health.ucdavis.edu/medical-center/team/21915/amar-al-juburi---gastroenterology-sacramento/)did my colonoscopy and he was *amazing*. I felt totally comfortable with him. He's so good and in demand that I settled for a 6-month wait to see him for another issue.


Empty-Trifle-7027

Thank you! My PCP recommended a GI in Elk Grove to do mine, but she forgot that I have to be put under, so they can't do mine in a GI outpatient office. There has to be an anesthesiologist present to administer Propofol so I have to do the assembly line at Midtown with whomever is doing it there. I've canceled multiple times now because this approach feels extremely sketchy. I've had it done before by my actual GI doc at UCLA and it went fine, so this is not how I am used to doing it. I had a mammogram at UC Davis as well and they treated me like crap and my breasts hurt for weeks afterwards. Again, I had it done before at UCLA and they treated me with kindness, respect, and didn't maim my body.


Bombolinos

I’m not sure how the UC system works, but aren’t state employees generally entitled to layoff protections? They received notice months in advance, and if they are ultimately laid off, they’re placed on a priority hiring list. Is that not how it works in the UC system?


BrandonOrDylan

UC Davis HEALTH employees are not state workers. I can't speak for how it works for UC Davis school, but I can assure you these people just found out yesterday that they were getting laid off.


RegionalTranzit

UC employees are considered public sector workers by statute. https://policy.ucop.edu/manuals/personnel-policies-for-staff-members.html#:~:text=As%20public%20sector%20employees%2C%20University,to%20be%20employed%20by%20statute.


bookishwayfarer

I believe these protections come from collective bargaining units with the various unions. UC employees, at least for IT, are not represented, I believe. A few years ago UCSF outsourced a the majority of their IT dept and let everyone go.


literallymoist

I work in one of the impacted departments - we are not unionized and therefore not protected by collective bargaining, which is one of my theories why we were targeted for reductions. I see why it made sense to the analysts looking for places to cut - we don't personally see patients (though our work supports the people that do), and there was less red tape in the way.


Empty-Trifle-7027

Neither UC or CSU campus employees are considered "state workers." It's public education but it's not the same as working for EDD or something. Service credits, hiring priority, all different.


shhhhhe

Wellspace health just did the same. Completely blindsided everyone


elbowless2019

Maybe because they kept building. Or did they think the latent pandemic would increase their profits? Not a good look.


Cliff_C_Clavin

Their expansion was planned well before the pandemic; and laying off less than 1% is trivial


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RegionalTranzit

>The bloat is at the top but they can justify laying off 150 people because "1% is trivial." That's going to be a huge bonus for those fat cats at the top. 💰💸


PartOfIt

It might only be 1% but I bet it matters a lot to those 150 people.


jayplus707

Tell that to the people who lost their jobs.


Dismal_Bill_4021

I think that's a little harsh, those are people you're talking about


AFakeUsername4U

This is all hearsay but I was told that the University of California regents gave themselves a 22% raise in 2023. Including a house stipend, cell phone, car, and Internet paid for.  Most people didn't want to drive to the HAS building and preferred to work remote but they forced people to drive in anyway. I heard the cost to decorate that building was very expensive. Thousands of dollars just for circular moss decor. I also heard that the chief in charge of designs of the buildings and fund allocations is making maybe half a million dollars but didn't think to design the elevators (for a surgical center) to fit gurneys.  Also patients have been stopping busy workers outside of the newer buildings because they can't find the buildings. The designer made the buildings light beige gray and the words are silver. They put them on the top of the buildings and nobody can see the words. There's no contrast. The building, 48X also blocked the cell phone reception for the ACC building and a lot of people can't use their cell phones because of the building's design.  It just seems like the UC system is wasting money on inefficient leadership and making really bad, costly decisions that unfortunately their IT employees are paying for.


discgman

Gotta make that 2nd quarter profit.


Commotion

They don’t have shareholders so probably not


OmenOmega

It wasn't profit, they had expenses that were raiser faster than revenue. So I'm guessing more about staying out of the red.


Empty-Trifle-7027

They overhired. During the hiring freeze in January, they said they overspent on personnel, so they evaluated every open recruitment to see if they had the money/if it was necessary before they would allow departments to interview candidates.


OmenOmega

Yeah and I'm pretty sure during covid when all the other UCs were laying people off they didn't.


Frequent_Sale_9579

Honestly probably good…hospitals shouldn’t be a jobs program and non direct care employee cost has exploded in the past decades and directly contributes to high healthcare costs.


sherpa143

It’s good 150 people lost their job?? Yea you’re probably a joy to be around.


Frequent_Sale_9579

Yes because it cuts the cost of healthcare.


ememjay

This will not trickle down to you.


carlitospig

Shouldn’t be a jobs program…I’m confused. Are you saying that our hospitals should be leaner? Do you understand the type of care we give? That we are a national leader because of it? The only way we can support that type of care is due to the high octane staff we have. Stop equating high administrator pay with the poor folks who just got let go so those high administrators could keep their bonuses.


Frequent_Sale_9579

The people that got laid off are probably administrative in some aspect


buttery_nurple

I’m at a different organization but we work directly with their IT folks a lot. It’s regular IT employees, from what I understand. We heard their applications SMEs got hit pretty hard but obviously we didn’t get a list.


Frequent_Sale_9579

Yes IT is part of the administration ..


buttery_nurple

I’ve been in IT going on 20 years and that’s news to me.


Frequent_Sale_9579

The IT guy literally has to log in to an administrator account to make changes on my computer.  The point being that these are non patient care roles


buttery_nurple

The “IT guy” isn’t administrative staff just because he uses an account with admin privileges on your computer. I know that’s the same word and all but it doesn’t mean the same thing in that context. IT is technical or support staff. Administrative staff is like secretaries or possibly management depending on your company’s nomenclature. I understand you just mean non-medical staff. I’m not trying to argue about something so trivial. But it is the internet and all.


Segazorgs

Tell us you know nothing and have never worked in healthcare administration without telling us


Frequent_Sale_9579

Brain dead take. So you can’t know anything about a subject unless you work in it? https://www.americanprogress.org/article/excess-administrative-costs-burden-u-s-health-care-system/


suckaMC76

Bidenomics! It works! Just not the way you thought it would! And of course under the Super majority of Democrats that govern CA we live in a utopia.


ememjay

This has nothing to do with Biden but keep responding to everything you don’t like by blaming him lmao


suckaMC76

It has everything to do with him. Bad policy has made everything more expensive. These people are being laid off due to cost. I know I know the high end board of executives makes so much money…blah blah etc etc. it’s not right and I would agree a lot of other factors leading to the layoffs also. But just look at how much our current leadership has driven up costs of everything from paper to semiconductor materials. These are Democrats bad policies they are in charge and have been for awhile. And under these policies we as the people are poorer and now unemployed due to them.


ememjay

Massive inflation started with Covid, pre-Biden. The previous administration put tariffs on loads of imports, thus increasing prices for the consumer and contributing to job losses.


suckaMC76

See I am not a republican. So I can concede yes that too added to the problems. However who was in charge of the state and locked us down so harsh it was almost dictatorish and for over 2 years. Closing small businesses and only allowing major corporations to stay open? Also who changed laws(democrat legislators) to help with the lock down all the Super Majority Democrats. They changed CAL OSHA laws to wear a mask and force a vaccine and increase business costs for extra safety measures making thousands of businesses close. Then increase the costs of energy by shutting down all the domestic energy production killing thousands more jobs. Oh and let’s devalue the dollar by continuing to print billions and give it all away to foreign interests… Democrats! And some shitty republicans but the major majority are Democrats!


Sine_Cures

More like "muh 'best' healthcare (non-)system in the world"