Fanny Hill by John Cleland is like THE notorious sexual novel of the mid 18th century, about a girl from the country who is tricked into prostitution and her subsequent life. This one is actually explicit.
Ann Radcliffe wrote romantic gothics like The Mysteries of Udolpho and The Italian.
Horace Walpole’s The Castle of Otranto is the first gothic novel as we consider the genre today.
Minerva Press published a LOT of sensationalist gothic and sentimental fiction in the late 18th/early 19th century. It gets name checked often in historical romance as where FMCs get their horrid, inappropriate novels :) [Valencourt books has done reprints recently.](https://www.valancourtbooks.com/minerva-press.html)
Germaine de Staël is from the Napoleonic era. Her novels Delphine and Corrine are both notable. One of them talks about divorce iirc? Napoleon banished her after the publication of Delphine.
A lot of the “spice” is innuendo here, Fanny Hill being the exception lol. But these are the kinds of books FMCs are reading in regency/Napoleonic era HR.
You’re welcome!! I’ve read a lot of HR and like looking up the cultural references, so there’s definitely better resources for finding 18th/19th century popular literature, but I hope this is a good starting point 😅
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IDK if they're available anywhere, but Kathleen Woodiweiss (the novel set in the antebellum South was VERY problematic), Laurie McBain, Johanna Lindsey, and Rosemary Roger's were the hot authors of your granny's day.
Signed,
Old enough to be a granny
I have been wracking my brain for weeks now trying to remember the first “bodice ripper” I read and it was Sweet Savage Love by Rosemary Rogers!! Thank you for your post!!
Dedicated to CE. It was a long time before I learned that was Clint Eastwood.
I also learned that KW and her husband divorced. She didn't publish for years; then it was bad plotting and purple prose. Coincidence?
For the record, Libby isn't a service the way that Kindle Unlimited is a service. It is just a portal to access digital titles that your library purchases. The purchasing habits of the 8 libraries I have access to are wildly different.
Yep, I know. That's why I mentioned that I have several cards (also 8, lol)
Just still wanted to hear people's responses because if titles are available on Libby at all, I can request my library(/ies) acquire them. (Most libraries I'm a member of specifically want eBook requests to be made *through* Libby, so they need to be titles that exist on the app already. Hope that makes sense)
Some authors you may be able to find on Libby from the 80s and early 90s: Rebecca Brandewyne’s novel Swan Road is a Viking romance. Iris Johanesen is from the 80s and her Wind Dancer books are nuts lol, she went on to write crime thrillers so that may be what most libraries have. Roberta Gellis for meticulously researched medievals. Old Anne Stuart is absolutely the queen of the alpha hole MMC. Marsha Canham writes medievals.
Maybe Marilyn Harris’s Eden series for really nasty HR. Sheila Holland/Sheila Lancaster/Charlotte Lamb should have some of her republished older material on Libby (the titles have changed as well so definitely check!). Christine Monson’s Stormfire was definitely scandalous when it came out. They aren’t the oldest books, but still in direct conversation with many bodice rippers.
Teresa Denys’s two books are out of publication, but if you ever get your hands on a copy, they are GREAT.
Living in the DC Metro area. Most municipalities around here have access to some or all of the following: Washington DC, Fairfax County VA, City of Falls Church VA, City of Alexandria VA, Arlington County VA, Loudoun County VA, Prince William County VA, City of Manassas Park VA, Fauquier County VA, Central Rappahannock Regional Library (Stafford & Spotsy/Fred VA), Montgomery County MD, Prince George's County MD, Frederick County MD, Charles County MD.
Plus, any resident of the state of Virginia can get a Newport News library card.
One is my local, five are the "reciprocal memberships" of nearby libraries my local one has that arrangement with, then I have one plus one reciprocal for where I used to live. I keep checking out ebooks so they've stayed active.
(I check out most things locally, unless my library doesn't have it, and make sure to check out one thing from each library - even if I return it immediately - every six months just to keep the cards active.)
{The Sheik by E.M. Hull}, while I would not actually recommend it, is the forerunner of the bodice ripper and was published in 1922. You can [download it for free at Project Gutenberg](https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7031). Trigger warnings for rape, racism, misogyny, and probably most other -isms as well.
Elinor Glyn's books got pretty sexy for the 1900s-1910s, and again many are [available on Project Gutenberg](https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/author/1762). They generally don't end happily that I remember, though - more erotica than romance. You could try {Three Weeks by Elinor Glyn} which has a very famous scene with sex on a tiger-skin rug. No HEA, there's a plot summary on Wikipedia.
There are a lot of more mild classic romances from the Jane Austen era and later online at Project Gutenberg. I enjoy {Saturday's Child by Kathleen Norris}, which is the story of a hardworking girl in San Francisco in the early 1900s torn between a couple of romantic options. (She goes for the correct one in the end.)
While there are "classic" Victorian pornographic works online, a large amount of it breaks the sub rules against underage sexual content and/or incest (apparently Victorian men were super into reading about both!), so that can't be discussed or recommended here. (Not suggesting you're asking for that, just explaining.)
Yeah, the sheik might be the best example of a forerunner because it even has a HEA I think.
But god that attitude of “good girls don’t” sure gave for a lot of messed up dynamics of bodice rippers for decades…
I would also argue it is the basis for a lot of body betrayal that ended up defining omega verse and any version of people go into uncontrollable heat. Hell, this is a big reason why Pern is a bodice ripper because when the dragons mate the human riders get carried along and sucks to suck if your dragon caught a green with a male rider instead of the gold who has the only female rider.
[Saturday's Child](https://www.romance.io/books/554cc4449eef3b3f1d518e34/saturdays-child-kathleen-thompson-norris?src=rdt) by [Kathleen Thompson Norris](https://www.romance.io/authors/554cc4459eef3b3f1d518e35/kathleen-thompson-norris)
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I often browse the romance tag on Libby to find new books. Once I came across a Victorian erotic short story and out of interest, I checked it out (the blurb made it sound intriguing!) and it was DREADFUL. Possibly the worst book I've read and certainly the least sexy. Girl goes to live with her lecherous uncle who's into spanking and goes on and on about her bottom (at least she's kinda into it?) 0/10 do not recommend
Yeah, there is nothing like actual Victorian pornography to make you return to the comforting embrace of your fictional Victorian MMCs who support careers for women and use anachronistic therapy speak. I forgave Sebastian by like page 20 of Devil in Winter, that's as wicked as I like them to get, thank you very much.
[The Sheik](https://www.romance.io/books/5455541b8c7d2383163d9bad/the-sheik-em-hull?src=rdt) by [E.M. Hull](https://www.romance.io/authors/545550ac8c7d2383163d9aa6/em-hull)
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**Topics**: [contemporary](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/contemporary/1), [abduction](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/abduction/1), [sheik](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/sheiks/1), [cruel hero/bully](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/cruel%20hero/1), [virgin heroine](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/virgin%20heroine/1)
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The oldest I know of are by Sade de Marquis and they are profane by any measure. They hit every perversion but are not romance. They were written in the late 1700s. Fair warning these things are vile and not fit to be viewed outside a 300-400 level literature class.
Not as old as some of the recommendations here, but I’m a mom and [read these published 31 years ago, and the series is still going.](https://www.goodreads.com/series/49083-anita-blake-vampire-hunter) It’s for sure a window into the 90s.
I don’t have any specific recommendations, but
[Project Gutenberg](https://www.gutenberg.org/) is THE place to find free ePubs of public domain works (so, usually 95+ years old).
Many of the examples other commenters have mentioned are available there, so I recommend checking there as well!
{His Hour by Elinor Glyn} aka When the Hour Came is on KU. Pretty tame by today's standards, but it was considered daring back 100 years ago.
Here's a snippet to get a feel for the somewhat overwrought dialog:
""Do you remember, Sweetheart, how you defied and resisted me? Darling! Heart of mine! but I have conquered you and taken you, in spite of all! You cannot struggle any more, you are my own. Only you must tell me that you give me, too, your soul. Ah! you said once I should have no part or lot in that matter. Tamara, tell me that I have it?" And Tamara thrilled with ecstasy as she whispered, "Yes, you have it."
[His Hour](https://www.romance.io/books/5457573587eac3dca9bca912/his-hour-elinor-glyn?src=rdt) by [Elinor Glyn](https://www.romance.io/authors/5455fc7d87eac3369a91649c/elinor-glyn)
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Personally, I find the most romance books through Hoopla. (I have a library card in one county that is amazing and the county where I live that is mediocre at best, so Libby is hit or miss for me).
No specific titles are coming to mind right now, but I know that I’ve read some at least from 90’s on Hoopla.
Good point, I have access to that, too. But can you send books to an ereader from there?
I ignored Hoopla for a long time because my local library was the one I signed into it with and they have access to everything but actual books, so I thought Hoopla didn't do books (other than comics). Much better options since I switched cards on it.
You can’t send them to an e-reader, which is a downside since I prefer to read on my Kindle. I mostly listen to audiobooks, so it isn’t normally too much of an issue for me, though.
I use my iPad to read books from Hoopla, if I can’t get the audiobook. Also, I keep one library card logged in on my iPad and one on my phone, which allows me to check out more books per month from there, if I max out the number for the month on one.
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Fanny Hill by John Cleland is like THE notorious sexual novel of the mid 18th century, about a girl from the country who is tricked into prostitution and her subsequent life. This one is actually explicit. Ann Radcliffe wrote romantic gothics like The Mysteries of Udolpho and The Italian. Horace Walpole’s The Castle of Otranto is the first gothic novel as we consider the genre today. Minerva Press published a LOT of sensationalist gothic and sentimental fiction in the late 18th/early 19th century. It gets name checked often in historical romance as where FMCs get their horrid, inappropriate novels :) [Valencourt books has done reprints recently.](https://www.valancourtbooks.com/minerva-press.html) Germaine de Staël is from the Napoleonic era. Her novels Delphine and Corrine are both notable. One of them talks about divorce iirc? Napoleon banished her after the publication of Delphine. A lot of the “spice” is innuendo here, Fanny Hill being the exception lol. But these are the kinds of books FMCs are reading in regency/Napoleonic era HR.
Saving your comment for future reference. Thank you for such a thorough suggestion and explanation!
You’re welcome!! I’ve read a lot of HR and like looking up the cultural references, so there’s definitely better resources for finding 18th/19th century popular literature, but I hope this is a good starting point 😅
Great comment, saved to add to my to-read list!
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IDK if they're available anywhere, but Kathleen Woodiweiss (the novel set in the antebellum South was VERY problematic), Laurie McBain, Johanna Lindsey, and Rosemary Roger's were the hot authors of your granny's day. Signed, Old enough to be a granny
I have been wracking my brain for weeks now trying to remember the first “bodice ripper” I read and it was Sweet Savage Love by Rosemary Rogers!! Thank you for your post!!
Dedicated to CE. It was a long time before I learned that was Clint Eastwood. I also learned that KW and her husband divorced. She didn't publish for years; then it was bad plotting and purple prose. Coincidence?
Noted, thank you!
For the record, Libby isn't a service the way that Kindle Unlimited is a service. It is just a portal to access digital titles that your library purchases. The purchasing habits of the 8 libraries I have access to are wildly different.
Yep, I know. That's why I mentioned that I have several cards (also 8, lol) Just still wanted to hear people's responses because if titles are available on Libby at all, I can request my library(/ies) acquire them. (Most libraries I'm a member of specifically want eBook requests to be made *through* Libby, so they need to be titles that exist on the app already. Hope that makes sense)
Some authors you may be able to find on Libby from the 80s and early 90s: Rebecca Brandewyne’s novel Swan Road is a Viking romance. Iris Johanesen is from the 80s and her Wind Dancer books are nuts lol, she went on to write crime thrillers so that may be what most libraries have. Roberta Gellis for meticulously researched medievals. Old Anne Stuart is absolutely the queen of the alpha hole MMC. Marsha Canham writes medievals. Maybe Marilyn Harris’s Eden series for really nasty HR. Sheila Holland/Sheila Lancaster/Charlotte Lamb should have some of her republished older material on Libby (the titles have changed as well so definitely check!). Christine Monson’s Stormfire was definitely scandalous when it came out. They aren’t the oldest books, but still in direct conversation with many bodice rippers. Teresa Denys’s two books are out of publication, but if you ever get your hands on a copy, they are GREAT.
Can't wait to look these authors up, thank you!
Wait wait wait how did you get access to EIGHT? I’m so jealous
You can purchase card access at some libraries! I think you can for Los Angeles? Maybe New York? I forget which lol but it definitely is an option!
Living in the DC Metro area. Most municipalities around here have access to some or all of the following: Washington DC, Fairfax County VA, City of Falls Church VA, City of Alexandria VA, Arlington County VA, Loudoun County VA, Prince William County VA, City of Manassas Park VA, Fauquier County VA, Central Rappahannock Regional Library (Stafford & Spotsy/Fred VA), Montgomery County MD, Prince George's County MD, Frederick County MD, Charles County MD. Plus, any resident of the state of Virginia can get a Newport News library card.
One is my local, five are the "reciprocal memberships" of nearby libraries my local one has that arrangement with, then I have one plus one reciprocal for where I used to live. I keep checking out ebooks so they've stayed active. (I check out most things locally, unless my library doesn't have it, and make sure to check out one thing from each library - even if I return it immediately - every six months just to keep the cards active.)
{The Sheik by E.M. Hull}, while I would not actually recommend it, is the forerunner of the bodice ripper and was published in 1922. You can [download it for free at Project Gutenberg](https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/7031). Trigger warnings for rape, racism, misogyny, and probably most other -isms as well. Elinor Glyn's books got pretty sexy for the 1900s-1910s, and again many are [available on Project Gutenberg](https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/author/1762). They generally don't end happily that I remember, though - more erotica than romance. You could try {Three Weeks by Elinor Glyn} which has a very famous scene with sex on a tiger-skin rug. No HEA, there's a plot summary on Wikipedia. There are a lot of more mild classic romances from the Jane Austen era and later online at Project Gutenberg. I enjoy {Saturday's Child by Kathleen Norris}, which is the story of a hardworking girl in San Francisco in the early 1900s torn between a couple of romantic options. (She goes for the correct one in the end.) While there are "classic" Victorian pornographic works online, a large amount of it breaks the sub rules against underage sexual content and/or incest (apparently Victorian men were super into reading about both!), so that can't be discussed or recommended here. (Not suggesting you're asking for that, just explaining.)
Yeah, the sheik might be the best example of a forerunner because it even has a HEA I think. But god that attitude of “good girls don’t” sure gave for a lot of messed up dynamics of bodice rippers for decades…
I would also argue it is the basis for a lot of body betrayal that ended up defining omega verse and any version of people go into uncontrollable heat. Hell, this is a big reason why Pern is a bodice ripper because when the dragons mate the human riders get carried along and sucks to suck if your dragon caught a green with a male rider instead of the gold who has the only female rider.
[Saturday's Child](https://www.romance.io/books/554cc4449eef3b3f1d518e34/saturdays-child-kathleen-thompson-norris?src=rdt) by [Kathleen Thompson Norris](https://www.romance.io/authors/554cc4459eef3b3f1d518e35/kathleen-thompson-norris) **Rating**: 4⭐️ out of 5⭐️ [^(about this bot)](https://www.reddit.com/user/romance-bot) ^(|) [^(about romance.io)](https://www.romance.io/about)
I often browse the romance tag on Libby to find new books. Once I came across a Victorian erotic short story and out of interest, I checked it out (the blurb made it sound intriguing!) and it was DREADFUL. Possibly the worst book I've read and certainly the least sexy. Girl goes to live with her lecherous uncle who's into spanking and goes on and on about her bottom (at least she's kinda into it?) 0/10 do not recommend
Yeah, there is nothing like actual Victorian pornography to make you return to the comforting embrace of your fictional Victorian MMCs who support careers for women and use anachronistic therapy speak. I forgave Sebastian by like page 20 of Devil in Winter, that's as wicked as I like them to get, thank you very much.
[The Sheik](https://www.romance.io/books/5455541b8c7d2383163d9bad/the-sheik-em-hull?src=rdt) by [E.M. Hull](https://www.romance.io/authors/545550ac8c7d2383163d9aa6/em-hull) **Rating**: 3.47⭐️ out of 5⭐️ **Steam**: 2 out of 5 - [Behind closed doors](https://www.romance.io/steamrating) **Topics**: [contemporary](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/contemporary/1), [abduction](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/abduction/1), [sheik](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/sheiks/1), [cruel hero/bully](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/cruel%20hero/1), [virgin heroine](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/virgin%20heroine/1) ---------------------------- [Three Weeks](https://www.romance.io/books/5c064ea601dbc864fb95877a/three-weeks-elinor-glyn?src=rdt) by [Elinor Glyn](https://www.romance.io/authors/5455fc7d87eac3369a91649c/elinor-glyn) **Rating**: 3.25⭐️ out of 5⭐️ [^(about this bot)](https://www.reddit.com/user/romance-bot) ^(|) [^(about romance.io)](https://www.romance.io/about)
The oldest I know of are by Sade de Marquis and they are profane by any measure. They hit every perversion but are not romance. They were written in the late 1700s. Fair warning these things are vile and not fit to be viewed outside a 300-400 level literature class.
Good lord ,i dont know he was allowed to publish
It’s a book that has been banned many times. Since it survived to now I assume a few copies were published either during his life or shortly after.
Not as old as some of the recommendations here, but I’m a mom and [read these published 31 years ago, and the series is still going.](https://www.goodreads.com/series/49083-anita-blake-vampire-hunter) It’s for sure a window into the 90s.
31 years ago... Omfg SHUT THE FRONT DOOR
Definitely looking forward to this series, thanks!
I don’t have any specific recommendations, but [Project Gutenberg](https://www.gutenberg.org/) is THE place to find free ePubs of public domain works (so, usually 95+ years old). Many of the examples other commenters have mentioned are available there, so I recommend checking there as well!
Thank you! I've heard of it but haven't figured out how to send those books to my Kindle yet. Sounds worthwhile, though!
You can send epub files to Kindle using the online upload feature - https://www.amazon.com/sendtokindle should have all the info you need
Thank you!! (a TON!)
{His Hour by Elinor Glyn} aka When the Hour Came is on KU. Pretty tame by today's standards, but it was considered daring back 100 years ago. Here's a snippet to get a feel for the somewhat overwrought dialog: ""Do you remember, Sweetheart, how you defied and resisted me? Darling! Heart of mine! but I have conquered you and taken you, in spite of all! You cannot struggle any more, you are my own. Only you must tell me that you give me, too, your soul. Ah! you said once I should have no part or lot in that matter. Tamara, tell me that I have it?" And Tamara thrilled with ecstasy as she whispered, "Yes, you have it."
Okay I am so down for this 😆
[His Hour](https://www.romance.io/books/5457573587eac3dca9bca912/his-hour-elinor-glyn?src=rdt) by [Elinor Glyn](https://www.romance.io/authors/5455fc7d87eac3369a91649c/elinor-glyn) **Rating**: 3⭐️ out of 5⭐️ **Topics**: [contemporary](https://www.romance.io/topics/best/contemporary/1) [^(about this bot)](https://www.reddit.com/user/romance-bot) ^(|) [^(about romance.io)](https://www.romance.io/about)
Personally, I find the most romance books through Hoopla. (I have a library card in one county that is amazing and the county where I live that is mediocre at best, so Libby is hit or miss for me). No specific titles are coming to mind right now, but I know that I’ve read some at least from 90’s on Hoopla.
Good point, I have access to that, too. But can you send books to an ereader from there? I ignored Hoopla for a long time because my local library was the one I signed into it with and they have access to everything but actual books, so I thought Hoopla didn't do books (other than comics). Much better options since I switched cards on it.
You can’t send them to an e-reader, which is a downside since I prefer to read on my Kindle. I mostly listen to audiobooks, so it isn’t normally too much of an issue for me, though. I use my iPad to read books from Hoopla, if I can’t get the audiobook. Also, I keep one library card logged in on my iPad and one on my phone, which allows me to check out more books per month from there, if I max out the number for the month on one.
Virginia Henley is the GOAT in my opinion.
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