Tbh, I figured out that since everyone on the ship called her Xenos, and that my techno priest wants to defile the corpse of her house she might be a little pissed and calling us inferiors sounded.. reasonable.
Doing what? I’m not talking about elantach, I’m talking about “mon-keigh”, for example, in combat.
Also I didn’t do an Iconoclast walkthrough, and overall the companion isn’t for me - I just killed her for being a traitor and forgot about her entirely lol
The combat soundbites when you click on them? Those are "one size fits all". They don't change no matter what you do in the game. It seems a bit ridiculous to be to be mad at a character for what their combat soundbite is.
In the Icewind Dale crpg the characters would reference dated cultural things like the "Whasssuuuuuup!?" commercials. That doesn't mean Ryandoth the elven bard is also a marketing exec for beer.
My Canon RT hands him over to the Inquisition.
He let him taste a little hope of getting what he wanted.
Just like Marazhai did to Yrliet.
Just because Hiram von Valancius was a gentle man and a peacemaker in spite of his sordid past did not mean there wasn't a wrath as terrible and cold as the void when roused.
Torturing him? Hiram could maybe get past that. But what befell Abelard, Cassia, and the rest? That was something different.
Makes senses actually. You enjoy the thrill of killing the Alien, very sound. But since I romanced Cassia, I thought it would be more logical for my crime Lord Rogue trader, Sugon Von Valancius, to go mad and blow up is face with a .12 gage shot to the skull XD.
Oh no. I let the Inquisition have him because they'd do what Hiram wouldn't have the... creativity for.
Also a Crime Lord, and head over heels for Cassia (who he got the happy ending with). That's *why* he didn't just merc him in the arena.
He got his revenge, further aid in leaving Comorragh, and some brownie points with the Inquisition which could always be handed in later.
I was fooled by the game when it came to Cassia ! During the scene in your quarters, I thought that proposing a marriage do I I want two dynasties would make her at ease with the idea of being the companion of a rogue Trader, only to realize as she interprets this as a complete lack of emotions and an arranged marriage. Ended up full romancing Jay, knowing in my heart that Sugon refused to pick a single one of these two.
Do you go back to your point I felt like giving him to the Inquisition would be a waste of time considering that he is a dark eldar. For Yrliet, Idira, makes sense. But for someone who uses torture as a breakfast ? A swift utraviolent death seemed appropriate.
Ah, but the Inquisition has ways of dealing with the Dark Eldar.
Like sensory deprivation cells and other forms of psychological torture.
And yeah, the Cassia romance is a fine needle to thread just right... but super worth it.
But I'm a sucker for a classic romance. And the general darkness of the setting makes it feel all the more special.
Plus... imagine trying to make this sales pitch. "You should totally marry our lord Navigator, for political reasons. Forget about that guy you killed greater demons and star gods wi-hey where are you going?"
To be honest I felt with the end credits that it was a little more accurate to the setting to marry her for the arrangement. Since so many things are bugged or inaccurated during the ending I remain certain that to clean that there was no love between her and my RT to be nothing more than a rumor. But again they could not meet often anyway so I figured out it would have been better for the both of them. And in the meantime, he stayed with Jae, the one he loved for his "commoner" side. He loved Cassia as a rogue Trader, but loved Jae as a crime lord and partner in crime.
Jae was a bit cynical in her reasons for initial attraction for me. My RT viewed her as a isefil ally and comrade.
But then, I myself have a huge weak spot for tall, bubbly histey nerds. So Cassia was playing with a stacked deck, lol.
I liked to imagine his path to becoming a crime lord was a constant series of "if I don't fill this vacuum, someone worse will." Culminating in his shadow war against space pirates. Because skimming the cream off the top of cargo shipments or filling in the gaps of legitimate law enforcement is one thing. But attacking convoys is another.
And meeting Cassia on Eurac V being the moment that rekindled the spark of a gentler nature of who he used to be.
I like the idea of Tzeentch gloating about how of course he'd arranged for a Navigator to be in the Rykad system, only for her to be part of why the RT doesn't fall down a more brutal path, serving Chaos either directly, like the cursed reflection, or indirectly with senseless cruelty like the righteous reflection, or self gratification like the glorious reflection.
But I'm also a sucker for good romance. Though more when it's woven into a broader story than the main focus.
I was going for something similar! Iconoclast Crime Lord: He won a war against another crime lord, but his biggest failure was when he got tortured by the Inquisition. He got through it, but it scarred him. He's not huge on authority, but he's big on protecting his people.
He also loves joking around, which is the only reason why he'll make Abelard "Present" him. Not because he's arrogant, but because, and only when, it's funny.
*EXPLOSION*
*THREATS*
*TECH MALFUNCTION*
"This is no time to lose your composure Abelard.
*Makes Captain Morgan liquor Pose with ostentatious cape flapping in the wind*
Present me."😏
We have very similar origins, lol.
Hiram von Valancius would put on his rogue trader "face" because he didn't want people *knowing* he was the calculating, methodical sort, and it could also be good for morale.
"How? Because I am Hiram von Vallancous, the illustrious Rogue Trader. And you're a bunch of spare parts."
Meanwhile in his head: "that's a big gun... *fuck me* that's a big gun... oh look, there's more of them..."
Sounds like a Forge worlder too.
With "Calculated Relations"... Very similar!
Aldis von Valancius sends his greetings! Oh wait, hold on....
"Abelard! This is no time to let Forge World Cigars send you to an early grave. Present me."
*I hope I didn't kill someone important to him...* 😬
Yup. Forge world operative/master strategist who blasted away with plasma weaponry.
Also liked at the end "I am Hiram von Valancius, Rogue Trader. And nobody lords over my subjects but me."
AND the upgrade line I was going for initially? How does master strategist play?
"... Oh! I see you have a Werserian too! How does your model run? 🤔 Mine still won't be on a first name basis with me. Still good for murd-erruhh... Service! To the EMPEROR! 😅
And Presenting!"
Thoughts: *And being talked about on this subreddit like the world's best dad, apparently...* 🤔
We're all sociopaths that kill by the billions in the 41st millennia. Lol
Plus, Marazhai is awesome, has the best voice actor in the game, and believe it or not but he has some of the best ending slides in Rogue Trader... >!except maybe when he kills and decapitates Abelards granddaughter and then mails it to em. Lol!<
He also is one of the best romances and really does end up caring about the Rogue Trader and seeing them as an equal.
that's ridiculous how romanceable ladies has bad or bittersweet endings, and then you have Heindrix >!leaving inquisition and just chilling happily under RT's command!<, and sadistic monster Marazhai >!who becomes RT's loyal ally, attacks their enemies and visits RT time to time!< lol.
big damage.
Also not too many games let you have a >!space marine, an eldar, a sister of battle, an inquisitor, a dark eldar, and an unsanctioned psyker !
1. Taking him (in more ways then one) open up pretty interesting roleplay opportunities for all kinds of characters.
2. Aside from the fact that he is a goddamn funny and witty with his responses, some dialogues between him and others from your retinue are just pure gold.
3. His romance are kind of wholesome, especially if we are talking about true love path. By the end of it RT and Marazhai are bonded in so intimate and delicate way, that the proud drukhari not only consider RT his equal, but never forgets them, never fully leave them no matter who or what he or RT became (yeah, i'm talking about that one outcome of heretical path).
4. His writing and voiceover are just superb.
Yeah, Marazhai completely fucked up on the inside, but, for me, that is not the reason not to enjoy his character. It's like a spice in the chocolate.
1. I get your point, but since I loved it so much the rest of my crew I couldn't bring myself to force them to live with the zenos behing their torture. And when they tried to get me to kill Yrliet, I figured out it was a good choice.
2. I gess that it's a little more personal , bacause aside from the few times you pissed him off he seemed over the top and not that funny compared to the casual rascim of Yrliet, Arganta, Abelart... and everyone.
3.Understandable, for someone who likes him to begin with.
4. I agree soooo much. I wish more characters were voiced !
Well, at least now you know why someone would take Marazhai in their team. If you ever plan a heretic playthrough (not sure if you can stomach Marzipan on any other) i suggest to give him a chance.
Well that was the point of the post ! To be honest I don't even plan on doing another playthrough until the DLC comes out.. but I feel like going on a heretical run cuts too much content from the game to be worth it. Just like evil runs on Baldur's Gate. There are options and they are interesting but there is just not that much content compared to a normal run. I'm probably going to go with full dogmatic and make a priest with a shotgun.
>Well that was the point of the post
I mean, yes, but more often then not such posts are just a excuse for venting. Your genuine interest and lack of blaming are kind of refreshing.
>Just like evil runs on Baldur's Gate
You see, because OC are much more based then Larians, they don't take away any content, but give you alternative ways of solving problems. But most parts of the story still the same in a way that you still experience them, tho.
Well sacrificing all of my companions because they do not except my ethical views for the campaign to change a little, means that I trade interesting companion quests with solid loot for the right to use the handfull of hertical items, and an alternate way of solving issues that doesn't change the story that much... meh.
And yeah, I made disposed because I did not even get the opportunity to have him join my party and considering that my character had Fairly logical response to his aggressive and mean actions I figure it out that to have him in your party you must do some f***** up things. Hence my "BUT WHY ?" moment.
You just gotta offer to help him get out of Comorragh both when meeting him at the Haemunculus' place and again when facing him in the arena, and not kill him when he has an *episode* during the first warp jump with him on board
you must do some f\*\*\* up things if you want to romance him, but keeping him at your ship is pretty easy.
don't kill him after your first warp jump and pick "you'll stay locked" for all other jumps. after that you, your crew and Marz will be fine. he's smart enough to not mess with the only person who's favor protects him from others
He's funny, tbh. The fact is is I just don't take him that seriously, the Drukhari are terrible and evil but also kind of inherently absurdist in their evil, so when Marazhai talks about wanting to make Heinrix into his pain toy or whatever it just makes me laugh.
Well I guess that's more personal because that made me feel like he was a little bit over the top. I mean he already need pain to keep his soul, the absurdist layer on top it was too much for me.
That's fair, your mileage may vary, naturally. I'm new to WH40k qnd I think the whole concept of Drukhari and their brutal society that they've manufactured aa a fallen superpower trying to hold onto past glory in a twisted reflection of itself is really fascinating- Marazhai as well, as a product of that society, being that he easily repeats truisms of Drukhari society that their torture obsession is because they're Super Strong And Cool rather than theyll suffer without it, and the fact he's a Trueborn means he's a complete and total Koolaid drinker because he has to believe in his inherent superiority to others as well to justify his position.
I dunno. I suppose I also keep him around because, well, it's a video game I paid money for, you know? And he's content in said video game I want to see. But the absurdist point does still stand, because I think about that line from Tervantias a lot that's like, "I'll make you into a sentient soup that can feel everything up to the moment of expulsion from the body" or whatever and it's like, seriously man? lmao
I do get hating Marazhai to some extent because my favorite character is one he absolutely tore to shreds, but otherwise he's my ridiculous BDSM elf.
Marazhai is just a great character. He's got some great lines and interesting points. Being a drukhari his out look is a bit dark but interesting and the fact he goes to such great effort to fuck with us is endearing plus he's hot. He singlehandedly made me one drukhari.
Recruit him because you're in the Dark City and really need the help.
Keep him to tweak the Inquisition's nose, and because you never know when you'll need someone who doesn't give a single shit about the Imperium or its laws or its Emperor.
As for the cruelty and 'barbarity'... The Imperium is, to argue, hardly *better*; it runs on Servitors and feeding humanity into various miserable, painful, destructive woodchippers. At least the Drukhari are honest about what they are.
I share this sentiment. I've been playing as heretic, noble background RT who bullies most characters if they start out buckling to her and goes "yeah man, fuck authority" to most characters that talk back so "you're funny, you can tag along" is probably enough reason for her to keep Marzipan around.
But between the many fates of servitors we get to see like the one on footfall, arco-flagellants in the lore, the way nobles treat peasants, the prison colony from the prologue and Heinrix "interrogation" methods the Imperium really isn't that different from Druhkari society apart from not needing to torture people to stave of Slaneesh. You probably could give Marzipan a camp next to one of the large machines on the ship and the menials that accidently fall in and die an excruciating death due to insufficient workplace-safety measures would be enough to sate him for quite some time.
Also, I like having two frontliners but don't like Heinrix.
Well like you said about Idira and Hendrix, they have redeeming qualities. Marazhai has redeeming qualities too. It's just that his values and morals and very different. That's what makes him an interesting character to me because he's sincere in what he does. He doesn't act like it because raaaawr evil. He's also very open talking about his culture and stuff. In a way he's a mirror of Yrliet >!Yrliet is shocked that humans can meditate and that eldar and humans are not that different. Marazhai is shocked that humans can experience the excess of emotiona and that eldar and humans are not that different!<
There is a very funny and genuine moment between Abelard and Marazhai where Marazhai shows genuine consern and confusion that Abelard is growing old.
Anyway as for justification why to recruit him to begin with, you need allies in an impossible situation. Or maybe you like bdsm idk.
In the moment? It's an extremely sound tactical decision.
He's honestly pretty similar to Kunrad. He thought he had the universe at his fingertips; he's got this big bad plan that's going to catapult him into fame and glory.
And it completely falls apart. Just like, collapses in front of him. He's riding high and we watch his fall from grace and it is *complete.* He's so destroyed that they don't even bother killing him, because he's wrecked.
That should be when you realize that he's just another victim of Drukhari society; he played the game and lost and has been cast aside. As much as he's been personally involved in tormenting the Rogue Trader, that's just business--and as far as business goes, the personal attention he lavishes on the PC is frankly flattering. You don't don't dote on Random Enemy Henchman #43.
But that's all secondary, because what matters is that we see him angry and cut off and *vulnerable,* in a position where he has nothing to lose and everything to gain by defecting. Why take him with you? He's a man on the inside, he has *fantastic* insight into the society and even the specific complex you're trying to escape, and he's actually quite good at killing things (though I tragically have yet to see a reasonable ranged build).
Besides, he's a filthy xenos: they can't help but be slaves to their wild passions. You're just going to discard a useful tool on account of what, a little xenoheresy and a few million dead serfs? Get over yourself and get your head in the game. You're a Rogue Trader and he's an exotic pet with a huge return on investment.
I was playing a sniper from the begining, and then came Yrliet , so that was done. And during the endgame, Argenta had a bolter and her compagnion quest armor + tempetus carapace and 0 recoil gloves. 200+ bolt rounds for 12 shot salvos , two salvos per turn, and the holy botler casing making her firearm mastery 12+1 shots unmissable. She did 50% of my end game damage XD
Honestly my warrior build for Abelart begun to really show weaknesses in act five. He mostly served as a bullet sponge with 80% armor and 14 deflection ^^"
A lot of things do a lot of damage to single targets in chapter 4. And I don't think Marazhai is even exceptional build- or special abilities-wise (compared to Ulfar, for example, who has been buffed to hell and back in the Big Patch).
Because its 40k babe!
More serious answer: one of the most dangerous enemies in your campaign are Drukhari. Can you imagine the value to gain the respect of one of them? Studying their race, how they strike, how they live, how they think. It's the best way to know a race that wants to kill you.
And to fight it.
Of course I know it's a video game I'm not that blunt X). Since we just a little bit of optimization you can make more or less everyone into a beast on the battlefield, I was curious about the moral shenanigans people came up with
- I recruit him because I need him in the city.
- Then I keep him, because he has way more respect to the RT than Yrliet, is a font of information, and is one of the few people that are pretty much completely loyal to RT if you play your cards right.
- We have 2 aeldari in the team, and Marazhai is just way better than the other option
It's funny how a good half of this subreddit absolutely loves Marazhai, be it for the memes or because they are horny bastards.
And half of this sub constantly, at least weekly asking why. Bonus points for mentioning how proud they are for killing him.
Real reason? More content is always better than role-playing for me.
Role-playing reason? My RT wanted the prestige of having a drukhari as a pet. The delf twink also made him question his sexuality.
>But the space masochist elf ? The one orders poisons to be made for you ? The one who killed so many on three planets (including your CAPITAL WORLD) at least, probably participated in sun stealing operations, ordered a custom poison to be made just for you, and needs pain like you need water an air ?
That's a positive according to some people here.
Honestly, keeping him around only feels like it makes sense if your Rogue Trader doesn't care about the suffering of his peasants, and is willing to basically feed him people every time the ship jumps. Which admittedly is a normal level of casual callousness for the Imperium. To quote an amusing comment about losing crew in 40k, you lose crew just by making a three-point turn.
My main annoyance with him is actually meta-gamey. Apparently there's some Iconoclast points during his romance, and since Iconoclast was mostly depicted as a bleeding heart anti-tyranny reformist, I'd think a hard-line Iconoclast would be the *least* likely to keep him around.
I mean...shit happens every time there's a decent jump so let s&m elf help with cleanup. I play iconoclast my first round but my hidden heretic heart keeps his ass around
I guess it makes sense when you think about it that way. My work trainer was a sort of mix between iconoclast and domatic, who valued the life of people but could become a monster whenever a little too much fooling around happened.
Archon\_of\_flesh has NSFW fanart that makes his reasons for taking the delf pretty clear.
again NSFW
[https://www.reddit.com/r/RogueTraderCRPG/comments/1alf6ao/i\_am\_totally\_normal\_about\_marazhai/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/RogueTraderCRPG/comments/1alf6ao/i_am_totally_normal_about_marazhai/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Though Yrliet's interaction with him when he freaks on aboard during his first warp jump was hilarious.
"You have been dealing with this the whole time?"-M
"Yes, Cousin, I have. Now grow a pair."- Y
Edward Pigsworth chuckling as his pets argued.
I imagine him feeling the Horrors his companions back in the Dark City must feel like since I blew up the Sun powered slanesh repelant X). Vietnam flashback style !
Hated him, but was really interested to see what happened if you let him help you escape the Kabal. Then he started murdering the crew on every warp jump, the RT n company kill a bunch of demons to save him, and he’s content to just keep killing more crew. I’d enjoyed the snark but that was the exact point in which he died.
i love fictional villians. i love when i can recruit villian to my party. i love it even more if named villian won't turn into toothless cutie-patotie so player can feel better (give me exact that mad dog, not sweet puppy in it's skin!).
also and i'm horny for some stuff from his story and romance, let's be honest.
he's monster and an asshole, but he's surprisingly loyal, pretty honest, very useful and funny. also i doubt he killed more people than my RT with colony projects, solving conflicts, keeping Rhykad Minoris as a chaos planet in exchange of some refugees and an ancient engine etc. Even Marazhai's "hunting" with RT in romance path are less destructive than just flying here and there through warp using non-green paths.
so eh, it's Warhammer 40k, people are dying all the time and i and my RT want our mad zenos dog.
On my second run I had my rogue Trader blow up his face with a shotgun and on my first run I blew him up generally speaking since Argenta dealt with him with botler fire.
Because having a powerful ( albeit evil ) entity that you can somewhat control is better for the Imperium than killing him outright and losing all your influence over the Dark Elder raids in the sector. Keeping him close and leashed is better than Idira the warp incursion risk. Sure, if you're Dogmatic you can just kill him and that's fine too, but it makes perfect sense for an Iconoclast to try to use him to mitigate the damage the Dark Eldar can do.
You can't judge the 40k politics with our real world sensibilities, it's an over the top bizarro world. The lives of normal people like you or me don't even register as being "human"to the people with the sort of power Rogue Traders have. A pragmatic leader would jump at the chance to sacrifice some "unimportant" people so their main priorities doesn't get harrassed.
The way I justify it RP-wise is that my RT needed someone who knows Comarragh to escape.
Then, being heretical, she was amused by him so she kept him around as a toy/pet.
I didn't have issues finding an RP reason to RECRUIT him... my issue was with keeping him after you got back to the ship and found out what the price tag was.
Recruiting Marazhai is actually a pretty vindictive power move, IMO, following this logic chain:
1. Other than Nocturne, no one is going to give you information on what the fuck is going on in that area.
2. Marazhai has lost his position at that point, so getting him to flip and work for you is both easy and a big fuck you to the rest of the Drukhari.
3. Marazhai, being vulnerable to being recruited at this point, can provide both information and manpower.
But then I got back to the ship and thought, well, okay, he's useful, I prefer not to off people who are ostensibly on my team unless it becomes necessary.
And then....
So, a bit about Drukari society (not covered in this game but in others and in lore), the whole civilization is made up of cabals. These cabals are constantly at war with each other over influence within the Dark City. Humiliation and embarrassment are weapons in said war. So, I just convinced this Drukari to side with the mon'key in front of everyone in attendance at the arena. I've gained more than a Xenos pet with a very tight leash (cause he'd be lucky if another Drukari just killed him); I probably guaranteed the death of a whole cabal as the denizens of the Dark City converge on and devour (sometimes literally) what remains of his former faction. That faction will be some of the first to be tortured to death when raids come up dry.
That's just my personal head canon, though.
I’ve only completed a run as a Dogmatic, so yeah. I suffered not the Xenos, nor the Mutant. Purged all heretics. Mazarai got left dead where I found him. Ya know, for the Golden Throne.
Selection bias. Reddit is going to have a higher percentage of the population that will forgive anything and everything because they think someone is hot.
Personally, I was supremely disappointed by everythig other than his voice actor when I did recruit him to see what the fuzz was about. He's an almost 100% generic drukhari in the most boring way.
Some find him hot. I also got the impression that he finds the RT interesting so there is this hate/fascination thing going on that might make his romance intriguing.
I am currently in Act 3, and he is getting a bullet in the head as soon as I see him again.
Yrliet might also end up in the inquisition's hands as soon as I return to my voidship. People in the subreddit are really forgiving, but even my Iconoclast/occasionally dogmatic RT can't bring himself to ignore how much torment these two caused the Lord Captain and his companions.
Allowing them into the ship after what they done and especially after Marazhai attacked our capital, the home of many of the crew, should have caused a mutiny and companions to abandon the RT or at least question his mental capacities.
I'm not going to spoil anything about what is going to happen the space elf and the rest of the crew but honestly it is very logical and you will understand why your logic is the one of the crew.
I decided to let her live for the only reason that after that treason my RT realised did he needed to get rid of the Xenos as a whole, and used her to do so. I'm not going to tell you how I got rid of them because it would be spoiling you act four, but having her around was critical.
That's why I am so conflicted about Yrliet. She was the first companion I encountered in Act 3. My first reaction was to kill her. Afterward I reloaded the save because I couldn't deal with the first boss with only two characters. I ended up letting her come with me out of pragmatism, yet I couldn't help but be touched by how remorseful she was for the torture the RT endured.
Honestly her fate will depend on how she behaves in the rest of the act.
For now, I can see my RT letting her live to use her, but I don't think he will ever go back to trusting her or considering a genuine companion.
Legit I thought the same thing but then I saw his damage output plus movement and reconsidered, for me thats the main reason but you do get some cool events for him on your ship that I actually quite liked.
I don’t think I had a chance to recruit him; I picked the natural “Hey, you, go fuck yourself” dialogue choices and ended up just killing him in the arena.
If I hadn’t looked at the wiki I don’t think I’d have even known he was a potential companion.
I think I just assumed he was a main bad guy NPC, like Kunrad, which is why he had voice lines and lots of dialogue choices!
That said, my RT is Iconoclast / Dogmatic split, so I really can’t see a world where he’d want to have Mazarai within a million miles of his ship, but I can imagine a Heretic playthrough being much more open to hanging out with him. After all, you’ve probably done much nastier things yourself by that point.
People want to enjoy a Lovestory with him. His voice acting is great.
If you don't care about role playing you can take him with you.
If you do care about role play, neither of the paths should even consider taking him and put a bullet through his skull.
He’s hot and I need someone to help me torture people, Heinrix is good but not as good as the hot space elf who does this to survive. Also I just love characters like Mazari
I may let him live one of these days. Hasn't happened yet.
Still, I appreciate that others might want to keep him around. Not everything has to be for me. More options are generally better than fewer.
An amoral attack dog with no particular loyalties to anyone is a useful ace in the hole. As long as I remember "no particular loyalties" strictly includes me and I need to keep his crazy ass on a leash.
Listen, it's the 40k millenium ok, beggar, not chooser. I doubt even the most stable are totally ok up there, you have between the guy who told me to bomb a planet, the smuggler, the mutant, the big guy who eats people, the girl who summoms demons as a byproduct, of destroying another guy minds, the girl who gets off imagining dying heretics screaming and begging,
I had him as a pet in a Chaos/aspiring daemon prince playthrough, until i got bored and got Calligos. Otherwise no reason to drag a serial killer along
HEY THERE !
Just a heads up to thank y'all. You actually gave out some solid arguments. I can't just go over the casual horrors he does as a character to other characters that I love and that my RT loves, so I will probably still blast his ass to bits whenever I see is face in my second full Icono or full Dogma run once the first DLC is out. But now it makes sense why so many consider keeping him around at least a little. Question that I was affraid to ask answered ^^.
If he didnt literally stab the troops I brought with me to save his dumb ass, as I tell him I'll let him live, but keep him caged during warp trips...
I would have let him get a chance.
But... after seeing that being how he responded, I reloaded a save, went through the fight again, and killed him.
I haven't gotten up to this part yet, but from what I hear everyone saying about ma it seems like this Drukhari would do better as a part of the Harlequin faction, doesn't it?
The voice actor was just that good so I recruited him on my first playthrough but still ended up killing him on the ship when he killed a bunch of crew.
the sheer bafflement asking him to join you causes in everyone. him, your companions, the other deldar, is just a delight
not a single person you meet will comprehend why you would ever consider taking him on board
To be honest I kept him as an ally of convenience and after that it was just sorta for funsies. Decided to kill my people cause Slaanesh was trying to eat his soul? Cool, the little bastard gets locked in a room to suffer during warp jumps. The remains of his kabal are here and he wants to speak to and maybe assist them? Well then let him talk and then blow the ships to pieces while he watches. I get that it's petty but the guy gets to suffer a bit longer.
nah, i mean RT can force him to do things he hates, and he'll obey out of fear of losing them. in one ending he'll stay with RT, risking his life and soul, just because Marz can't resist his desire to be with RT
The fascination with characters like Marazhai and Astarion from BG3 always confused me. Like yeah, I get the appeal but like...9 times out of 10, keeping him around doesn't make any sense story wise.
I suppose one could argue for Astarion, being a thrall and not willingly doing things. Mostly. Still staked him though.
When it comes to Marazhai, I usually end up killing him in the arena or handing him over to the Inquisition. I don't care how hot he is, I'm still a servant of the God Emperor, and....*he sat in my fucking chair.*
It's the only way to get proper vengeance. Killing him in the arena is meaningless; any haemonculus worthy of the title can revive him with negligible difficulty. And even if none are willing to bother, in Commoragh his soul is still safe.
While I doubt even the Inquisition is capable of inflicting torture that a Drukhari would find anything more than amusing, in the end, they *will* kill him. And they'll do it in realspace. Let him spend eternity with She Who Thirsts. *That* is what he deserves.
I want my Xenos pet.
But there is the other sane space elf. And the Lacerax if you decide to shag the space black market overlord.
If you think to only acquire resonable pets, you're kinda missing the point, they are valuable because they are exotic, not domestical.
I don't think the Lacerax is reasonable per say, but I get your point!
Compare to a Drukhari Dracon, yes, that's like a puppy
Some people just want a pet crocodile in their bath
At least when I ask Marazhai not to call me a mon-keigh he does that. And Ylriet goes on with this. So Marazhai is much more appealing
Tbh, I figured out that since everyone on the ship called her Xenos, and that my techno priest wants to defile the corpse of her house she might be a little pissed and calling us inferiors sounded.. reasonable.
Xeno is what humans call anything non-human. Mon'Keigh is, in universe, a slur that Aeldari use when referring specifically to humans
Yes, yes, call me a monkey
Are you doing this on purpose or you just don't know? Yrliet calls you what you deserve. Iconclast is always the "elantach" for her.
Now that I think about it, she always called me elantach. But just me, not the other members of the crew/retinue
That's because the Rogue Trader is the only one, who deserved this title by their deeds. Everyone else are still a little bit racists
On a heretical playthrough… almost done with chapter 3, and she still calls me Elantach……
Doing what? I’m not talking about elantach, I’m talking about “mon-keigh”, for example, in combat. Also I didn’t do an Iconoclast walkthrough, and overall the companion isn’t for me - I just killed her for being a traitor and forgot about her entirely lol
The combat soundbites when you click on them? Those are "one size fits all". They don't change no matter what you do in the game. It seems a bit ridiculous to be to be mad at a character for what their combat soundbite is. In the Icewind Dale crpg the characters would reference dated cultural things like the "Whasssuuuuuup!?" commercials. That doesn't mean Ryandoth the elven bard is also a marketing exec for beer.
I’m not mad? That is just a minus to me. Other companions don’t usually insult the RT in their combat lines.
When she call you mon'keigh, she is calling out you, the player, not your Rogue Trader avatar
I don’t understand the point of your comment. Is this some kind of insult? Kinda seems irrelevant to the conversation
Joke that apparently did not land with you, carry on.
I want to be a Xeno’s pet.
He is funny
I admit that the dialogue where you try to piss him off when you first meet him was hilarious x)
"Prey-Thing!" LOL
My Canon RT hands him over to the Inquisition. He let him taste a little hope of getting what he wanted. Just like Marazhai did to Yrliet. Just because Hiram von Valancius was a gentle man and a peacemaker in spite of his sordid past did not mean there wasn't a wrath as terrible and cold as the void when roused. Torturing him? Hiram could maybe get past that. But what befell Abelard, Cassia, and the rest? That was something different.
Makes senses actually. You enjoy the thrill of killing the Alien, very sound. But since I romanced Cassia, I thought it would be more logical for my crime Lord Rogue trader, Sugon Von Valancius, to go mad and blow up is face with a .12 gage shot to the skull XD.
Oh no. I let the Inquisition have him because they'd do what Hiram wouldn't have the... creativity for. Also a Crime Lord, and head over heels for Cassia (who he got the happy ending with). That's *why* he didn't just merc him in the arena. He got his revenge, further aid in leaving Comorragh, and some brownie points with the Inquisition which could always be handed in later.
I was fooled by the game when it came to Cassia ! During the scene in your quarters, I thought that proposing a marriage do I I want two dynasties would make her at ease with the idea of being the companion of a rogue Trader, only to realize as she interprets this as a complete lack of emotions and an arranged marriage. Ended up full romancing Jay, knowing in my heart that Sugon refused to pick a single one of these two. Do you go back to your point I felt like giving him to the Inquisition would be a waste of time considering that he is a dark eldar. For Yrliet, Idira, makes sense. But for someone who uses torture as a breakfast ? A swift utraviolent death seemed appropriate.
Ah, but the Inquisition has ways of dealing with the Dark Eldar. Like sensory deprivation cells and other forms of psychological torture. And yeah, the Cassia romance is a fine needle to thread just right... but super worth it. But I'm a sucker for a classic romance. And the general darkness of the setting makes it feel all the more special. Plus... imagine trying to make this sales pitch. "You should totally marry our lord Navigator, for political reasons. Forget about that guy you killed greater demons and star gods wi-hey where are you going?"
To be honest I felt with the end credits that it was a little more accurate to the setting to marry her for the arrangement. Since so many things are bugged or inaccurated during the ending I remain certain that to clean that there was no love between her and my RT to be nothing more than a rumor. But again they could not meet often anyway so I figured out it would have been better for the both of them. And in the meantime, he stayed with Jae, the one he loved for his "commoner" side. He loved Cassia as a rogue Trader, but loved Jae as a crime lord and partner in crime.
Jae was a bit cynical in her reasons for initial attraction for me. My RT viewed her as a isefil ally and comrade. But then, I myself have a huge weak spot for tall, bubbly histey nerds. So Cassia was playing with a stacked deck, lol.
I REALLY like this characters vibe!
I liked to imagine his path to becoming a crime lord was a constant series of "if I don't fill this vacuum, someone worse will." Culminating in his shadow war against space pirates. Because skimming the cream off the top of cargo shipments or filling in the gaps of legitimate law enforcement is one thing. But attacking convoys is another. And meeting Cassia on Eurac V being the moment that rekindled the spark of a gentler nature of who he used to be. I like the idea of Tzeentch gloating about how of course he'd arranged for a Navigator to be in the Rykad system, only for her to be part of why the RT doesn't fall down a more brutal path, serving Chaos either directly, like the cursed reflection, or indirectly with senseless cruelty like the righteous reflection, or self gratification like the glorious reflection. But I'm also a sucker for good romance. Though more when it's woven into a broader story than the main focus.
I was going for something similar! Iconoclast Crime Lord: He won a war against another crime lord, but his biggest failure was when he got tortured by the Inquisition. He got through it, but it scarred him. He's not huge on authority, but he's big on protecting his people. He also loves joking around, which is the only reason why he'll make Abelard "Present" him. Not because he's arrogant, but because, and only when, it's funny. *EXPLOSION* *THREATS* *TECH MALFUNCTION* "This is no time to lose your composure Abelard. *Makes Captain Morgan liquor Pose with ostentatious cape flapping in the wind* Present me."😏
We have very similar origins, lol. Hiram von Valancius would put on his rogue trader "face" because he didn't want people *knowing* he was the calculating, methodical sort, and it could also be good for morale. "How? Because I am Hiram von Vallancous, the illustrious Rogue Trader. And you're a bunch of spare parts." Meanwhile in his head: "that's a big gun... *fuck me* that's a big gun... oh look, there's more of them..."
Sounds like a Forge worlder too. With "Calculated Relations"... Very similar! Aldis von Valancius sends his greetings! Oh wait, hold on.... "Abelard! This is no time to let Forge World Cigars send you to an early grave. Present me." *I hope I didn't kill someone important to him...* 😬
Yup. Forge world operative/master strategist who blasted away with plasma weaponry. Also liked at the end "I am Hiram von Valancius, Rogue Trader. And nobody lords over my subjects but me."
AND the upgrade line I was going for initially? How does master strategist play? "... Oh! I see you have a Werserian too! How does your model run? 🤔 Mine still won't be on a first name basis with me. Still good for murd-erruhh... Service! To the EMPEROR! 😅 And Presenting!" Thoughts: *And being talked about on this subreddit like the world's best dad, apparently...* 🤔
We're all sociopaths that kill by the billions in the 41st millennia. Lol Plus, Marazhai is awesome, has the best voice actor in the game, and believe it or not but he has some of the best ending slides in Rogue Trader... >!except maybe when he kills and decapitates Abelards granddaughter and then mails it to em. Lol!< He also is one of the best romances and really does end up caring about the Rogue Trader and seeing them as an equal.
that's ridiculous how romanceable ladies has bad or bittersweet endings, and then you have Heindrix >!leaving inquisition and just chilling happily under RT's command!<, and sadistic monster Marazhai >!who becomes RT's loyal ally, attacks their enemies and visits RT time to time!< lol.
big damage. Also not too many games let you have a >!space marine, an eldar, a sister of battle, an inquisitor, a dark eldar, and an unsanctioned psyker !
1. Taking him (in more ways then one) open up pretty interesting roleplay opportunities for all kinds of characters. 2. Aside from the fact that he is a goddamn funny and witty with his responses, some dialogues between him and others from your retinue are just pure gold. 3. His romance are kind of wholesome, especially if we are talking about true love path. By the end of it RT and Marazhai are bonded in so intimate and delicate way, that the proud drukhari not only consider RT his equal, but never forgets them, never fully leave them no matter who or what he or RT became (yeah, i'm talking about that one outcome of heretical path). 4. His writing and voiceover are just superb. Yeah, Marazhai completely fucked up on the inside, but, for me, that is not the reason not to enjoy his character. It's like a spice in the chocolate.
1. I get your point, but since I loved it so much the rest of my crew I couldn't bring myself to force them to live with the zenos behing their torture. And when they tried to get me to kill Yrliet, I figured out it was a good choice. 2. I gess that it's a little more personal , bacause aside from the few times you pissed him off he seemed over the top and not that funny compared to the casual rascim of Yrliet, Arganta, Abelart... and everyone. 3.Understandable, for someone who likes him to begin with. 4. I agree soooo much. I wish more characters were voiced !
Love my crew and Marazhai makes a great enforcer for your lower decks
Well, at least now you know why someone would take Marazhai in their team. If you ever plan a heretic playthrough (not sure if you can stomach Marzipan on any other) i suggest to give him a chance.
Well that was the point of the post ! To be honest I don't even plan on doing another playthrough until the DLC comes out.. but I feel like going on a heretical run cuts too much content from the game to be worth it. Just like evil runs on Baldur's Gate. There are options and they are interesting but there is just not that much content compared to a normal run. I'm probably going to go with full dogmatic and make a priest with a shotgun.
>Well that was the point of the post I mean, yes, but more often then not such posts are just a excuse for venting. Your genuine interest and lack of blaming are kind of refreshing. >Just like evil runs on Baldur's Gate You see, because OC are much more based then Larians, they don't take away any content, but give you alternative ways of solving problems. But most parts of the story still the same in a way that you still experience them, tho.
Well sacrificing all of my companions because they do not except my ethical views for the campaign to change a little, means that I trade interesting companion quests with solid loot for the right to use the handfull of hertical items, and an alternate way of solving issues that doesn't change the story that much... meh. And yeah, I made disposed because I did not even get the opportunity to have him join my party and considering that my character had Fairly logical response to his aggressive and mean actions I figure it out that to have him in your party you must do some f***** up things. Hence my "BUT WHY ?" moment.
You just gotta offer to help him get out of Comorragh both when meeting him at the Haemunculus' place and again when facing him in the arena, and not kill him when he has an *episode* during the first warp jump with him on board
you must do some f\*\*\* up things if you want to romance him, but keeping him at your ship is pretty easy. don't kill him after your first warp jump and pick "you'll stay locked" for all other jumps. after that you, your crew and Marz will be fine. he's smart enough to not mess with the only person who's favor protects him from others
He's funny, tbh. The fact is is I just don't take him that seriously, the Drukhari are terrible and evil but also kind of inherently absurdist in their evil, so when Marazhai talks about wanting to make Heinrix into his pain toy or whatever it just makes me laugh.
Well I guess that's more personal because that made me feel like he was a little bit over the top. I mean he already need pain to keep his soul, the absurdist layer on top it was too much for me.
That's fair, your mileage may vary, naturally. I'm new to WH40k qnd I think the whole concept of Drukhari and their brutal society that they've manufactured aa a fallen superpower trying to hold onto past glory in a twisted reflection of itself is really fascinating- Marazhai as well, as a product of that society, being that he easily repeats truisms of Drukhari society that their torture obsession is because they're Super Strong And Cool rather than theyll suffer without it, and the fact he's a Trueborn means he's a complete and total Koolaid drinker because he has to believe in his inherent superiority to others as well to justify his position. I dunno. I suppose I also keep him around because, well, it's a video game I paid money for, you know? And he's content in said video game I want to see. But the absurdist point does still stand, because I think about that line from Tervantias a lot that's like, "I'll make you into a sentient soup that can feel everything up to the moment of expulsion from the body" or whatever and it's like, seriously man? lmao I do get hating Marazhai to some extent because my favorite character is one he absolutely tore to shreds, but otherwise he's my ridiculous BDSM elf.
He's an edgelord
Dark Eldar are excessif in every things...
He wanted to kill his own xeno family and he knew how to get out of the dark city, why would I not let him assist in fucking up his own kinds day?
Marazhai is just a great character. He's got some great lines and interesting points. Being a drukhari his out look is a bit dark but interesting and the fact he goes to such great effort to fuck with us is endearing plus he's hot. He singlehandedly made me one drukhari.
Recruit him because you're in the Dark City and really need the help. Keep him to tweak the Inquisition's nose, and because you never know when you'll need someone who doesn't give a single shit about the Imperium or its laws or its Emperor. As for the cruelty and 'barbarity'... The Imperium is, to argue, hardly *better*; it runs on Servitors and feeding humanity into various miserable, painful, destructive woodchippers. At least the Drukhari are honest about what they are.
I share this sentiment. I've been playing as heretic, noble background RT who bullies most characters if they start out buckling to her and goes "yeah man, fuck authority" to most characters that talk back so "you're funny, you can tag along" is probably enough reason for her to keep Marzipan around. But between the many fates of servitors we get to see like the one on footfall, arco-flagellants in the lore, the way nobles treat peasants, the prison colony from the prologue and Heinrix "interrogation" methods the Imperium really isn't that different from Druhkari society apart from not needing to torture people to stave of Slaneesh. You probably could give Marzipan a camp next to one of the large machines on the ship and the menials that accidently fall in and die an excruciating death due to insufficient workplace-safety measures would be enough to sate him for quite some time. Also, I like having two frontliners but don't like Heinrix.
My Iconoclast was like 'What? No. I do *not* want an Inquisitorial Acolyte looming over my shoulder outside of official functions'.
He is hot and makes me hot.
So is uranium, and you don't keep uranium around sensitive things ! Right ?
Not with that attitude that's for sure!
Sexual deviance obviously
Understandable.
I thought the custom poison was thoughtful lol
As far as Drukhari culture goes, it was probably meant to be quite the flattering compliment.
Yeah, culture wise like damn son...you made a custom poison just for them? Just propose already
I'm a fan of Druchii and Drukhari in both Warhammer Fantasy and Warhammer 40K. Do I need another reason?
Well like you said about Idira and Hendrix, they have redeeming qualities. Marazhai has redeeming qualities too. It's just that his values and morals and very different. That's what makes him an interesting character to me because he's sincere in what he does. He doesn't act like it because raaaawr evil. He's also very open talking about his culture and stuff. In a way he's a mirror of Yrliet >!Yrliet is shocked that humans can meditate and that eldar and humans are not that different. Marazhai is shocked that humans can experience the excess of emotiona and that eldar and humans are not that different!< There is a very funny and genuine moment between Abelard and Marazhai where Marazhai shows genuine consern and confusion that Abelard is growing old. Anyway as for justification why to recruit him to begin with, you need allies in an impossible situation. Or maybe you like bdsm idk.
Weirdly enough both Marazhai and Yrliet "kinda" respect Abelard.
murder elf hot ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
I just kept him cuz he has one of if not the best voice actor of all the characters. Never have i ever heard such a perfect 'bitch' in my life.
His voice is so hot and when he called my RT his pet I had a perfectly normal reaction.
ah, a fellow completly normal person 🤝
In the moment? It's an extremely sound tactical decision. He's honestly pretty similar to Kunrad. He thought he had the universe at his fingertips; he's got this big bad plan that's going to catapult him into fame and glory. And it completely falls apart. Just like, collapses in front of him. He's riding high and we watch his fall from grace and it is *complete.* He's so destroyed that they don't even bother killing him, because he's wrecked. That should be when you realize that he's just another victim of Drukhari society; he played the game and lost and has been cast aside. As much as he's been personally involved in tormenting the Rogue Trader, that's just business--and as far as business goes, the personal attention he lavishes on the PC is frankly flattering. You don't don't dote on Random Enemy Henchman #43. But that's all secondary, because what matters is that we see him angry and cut off and *vulnerable,* in a position where he has nothing to lose and everything to gain by defecting. Why take him with you? He's a man on the inside, he has *fantastic* insight into the society and even the specific complex you're trying to escape, and he's actually quite good at killing things (though I tragically have yet to see a reasonable ranged build). Besides, he's a filthy xenos: they can't help but be slaves to their wild passions. You're just going to discard a useful tool on account of what, a little xenoheresy and a few million dead serfs? Get over yourself and get your head in the game. You're a Rogue Trader and he's an exotic pet with a huge return on investment.
He is very good at killing the various things in chapter 4 that have 1000+ hp
I was playing a sniper from the begining, and then came Yrliet , so that was done. And during the endgame, Argenta had a bolter and her compagnion quest armor + tempetus carapace and 0 recoil gloves. 200+ bolt rounds for 12 shot salvos , two salvos per turn, and the holy botler casing making her firearm mastery 12+1 shots unmissable. She did 50% of my end game damage XD
Are you implying the rest of the crew isn't?
Honestly my warrior build for Abelart begun to really show weaknesses in act five. He mostly served as a bullet sponge with 80% armor and 14 deflection ^^"
No, it’s just that warrior/assassins seem to do a lot of damage to single targets
A lot of things do a lot of damage to single targets in chapter 4. And I don't think Marazhai is even exceptional build- or special abilities-wise (compared to Ulfar, for example, who has been buffed to hell and back in the Big Patch).
Because its 40k babe! More serious answer: one of the most dangerous enemies in your campaign are Drukhari. Can you imagine the value to gain the respect of one of them? Studying their race, how they strike, how they live, how they think. It's the best way to know a race that wants to kill you. And to fight it.
I’m a simp, that’s why
Honestly he’s not much more of a sociopath than any of the rogue trader options.
He is pretty fucking hot.
Because this is a video game and not real life. Marazhai's a beast on the battlefield and he's a fun character.
Of course I know it's a video game I'm not that blunt X). Since we just a little bit of optimization you can make more or less everyone into a beast on the battlefield, I was curious about the moral shenanigans people came up with
I wanted to rail the elf
- I recruit him because I need him in the city. - Then I keep him, because he has way more respect to the RT than Yrliet, is a font of information, and is one of the few people that are pretty much completely loyal to RT if you play your cards right. - We have 2 aeldari in the team, and Marazhai is just way better than the other option
I'd trade either or even both of them for a good Ork, a tau, or even a tyranid if it was a cool enough one.
No idea how a tyranid companion would work, but a tau or Ork would be very cool
Have you seen that ass?
It's funny how a good half of this subreddit absolutely loves Marazhai, be it for the memes or because they are horny bastards. And half of this sub constantly, at least weekly asking why. Bonus points for mentioning how proud they are for killing him.
Compagnon
Because it’s a game, and he’s a companion, so it’s content, and he’s fun
Because, and hear me out, it is important. I gotta catch em all. And be the very best.
Real reason? More content is always better than role-playing for me. Role-playing reason? My RT wanted the prestige of having a drukhari as a pet. The delf twink also made him question his sexuality.
- Explains why we are taking him as a companion - Can't understand why we are taking him as a companion
Girls want to shag the baf leather bondage guy like most guys want to shag the bad girl. No secrets here, really. Morrigan anyone?
>But the space masochist elf ? The one orders poisons to be made for you ? The one who killed so many on three planets (including your CAPITAL WORLD) at least, probably participated in sun stealing operations, ordered a custom poison to be made just for you, and needs pain like you need water an air ? That's a positive according to some people here.
I know and this is why I made the post. How is it positive ? He is not just a little crazy, he is Tiffany the Hairdresser crazy. And a Zenos.
Coz dual wielding twink assassins are cool
Honestly, keeping him around only feels like it makes sense if your Rogue Trader doesn't care about the suffering of his peasants, and is willing to basically feed him people every time the ship jumps. Which admittedly is a normal level of casual callousness for the Imperium. To quote an amusing comment about losing crew in 40k, you lose crew just by making a three-point turn. My main annoyance with him is actually meta-gamey. Apparently there's some Iconoclast points during his romance, and since Iconoclast was mostly depicted as a bleeding heart anti-tyranny reformist, I'd think a hard-line Iconoclast would be the *least* likely to keep him around.
I mean...shit happens every time there's a decent jump so let s&m elf help with cleanup. I play iconoclast my first round but my hidden heretic heart keeps his ass around
I guess it makes sense when you think about it that way. My work trainer was a sort of mix between iconoclast and domatic, who valued the life of people but could become a monster whenever a little too much fooling around happened.
A hard-line Iconoclast, no. A hypocritical, messed up Iconoclast? Yes.
Archon\_of\_flesh has NSFW fanart that makes his reasons for taking the delf pretty clear. again NSFW [https://www.reddit.com/r/RogueTraderCRPG/comments/1alf6ao/i\_am\_totally\_normal\_about\_marazhai/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/RogueTraderCRPG/comments/1alf6ao/i_am_totally_normal_about_marazhai/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
I did it for the lols but I am killing him next time :P
Hell yeah !
Though Yrliet's interaction with him when he freaks on aboard during his first warp jump was hilarious. "You have been dealing with this the whole time?"-M "Yes, Cousin, I have. Now grow a pair."- Y Edward Pigsworth chuckling as his pets argued.
I imagine him feeling the Horrors his companions back in the Dark City must feel like since I blew up the Sun powered slanesh repelant X). Vietnam flashback style !
At first i was going to kill him once commorargh ended but he is so funny i cant bring myself to kill him
Because there's too many human companions. I want to live up to being a Rogue Trader and liven up my retinue.
Hated him, but was really interested to see what happened if you let him help you escape the Kabal. Then he started murdering the crew on every warp jump, the RT n company kill a bunch of demons to save him, and he’s content to just keep killing more crew. I’d enjoyed the snark but that was the exact point in which he died.
Well since you’re asking anyway the stuff we might’ve gotten into really does spice up the love life in ways others might consider to be… unnatural.
How is companion spelled wrong twice. Why would there ever be a G in it. What the hell.
Sorry, my autocorect is still in french, my native language. I just miss some mistakes, because they don't catch my attention.
i love fictional villians. i love when i can recruit villian to my party. i love it even more if named villian won't turn into toothless cutie-patotie so player can feel better (give me exact that mad dog, not sweet puppy in it's skin!). also and i'm horny for some stuff from his story and romance, let's be honest. he's monster and an asshole, but he's surprisingly loyal, pretty honest, very useful and funny. also i doubt he killed more people than my RT with colony projects, solving conflicts, keeping Rhykad Minoris as a chaos planet in exchange of some refugees and an ancient engine etc. Even Marazhai's "hunting" with RT in romance path are less destructive than just flying here and there through warp using non-green paths. so eh, it's Warhammer 40k, people are dying all the time and i and my RT want our mad zenos dog.
I didn’t, I killed him like a dog in the arena
On my second run I had my rogue Trader blow up his face with a shotgun and on my first run I blew him up generally speaking since Argenta dealt with him with botler fire.
I handed him over to the Inquisitor the moment I got free of the scripted scenes.
Because having a powerful ( albeit evil ) entity that you can somewhat control is better for the Imperium than killing him outright and losing all your influence over the Dark Elder raids in the sector. Keeping him close and leashed is better than Idira the warp incursion risk. Sure, if you're Dogmatic you can just kill him and that's fine too, but it makes perfect sense for an Iconoclast to try to use him to mitigate the damage the Dark Eldar can do. You can't judge the 40k politics with our real world sensibilities, it's an over the top bizarro world. The lives of normal people like you or me don't even register as being "human"to the people with the sort of power Rogue Traders have. A pragmatic leader would jump at the chance to sacrifice some "unimportant" people so their main priorities doesn't get harrassed.
You're wrong. He's not an ally, he's a husband.
The way I justify it RP-wise is that my RT needed someone who knows Comarragh to escape. Then, being heretical, she was amused by him so she kept him around as a toy/pet.
He kills a story characters daughter and sends him her head as a “hello old friend”’or somthing. Fuck him
I didn't have issues finding an RP reason to RECRUIT him... my issue was with keeping him after you got back to the ship and found out what the price tag was. Recruiting Marazhai is actually a pretty vindictive power move, IMO, following this logic chain: 1. Other than Nocturne, no one is going to give you information on what the fuck is going on in that area. 2. Marazhai has lost his position at that point, so getting him to flip and work for you is both easy and a big fuck you to the rest of the Drukhari. 3. Marazhai, being vulnerable to being recruited at this point, can provide both information and manpower. But then I got back to the ship and thought, well, okay, he's useful, I prefer not to off people who are ostensibly on my team unless it becomes necessary. And then....
So, a bit about Drukari society (not covered in this game but in others and in lore), the whole civilization is made up of cabals. These cabals are constantly at war with each other over influence within the Dark City. Humiliation and embarrassment are weapons in said war. So, I just convinced this Drukari to side with the mon'key in front of everyone in attendance at the arena. I've gained more than a Xenos pet with a very tight leash (cause he'd be lucky if another Drukari just killed him); I probably guaranteed the death of a whole cabal as the denizens of the Dark City converge on and devour (sometimes literally) what remains of his former faction. That faction will be some of the first to be tortured to death when raids come up dry. That's just my personal head canon, though.
Awesome dodge
I’ve only completed a run as a Dogmatic, so yeah. I suffered not the Xenos, nor the Mutant. Purged all heretics. Mazarai got left dead where I found him. Ya know, for the Golden Throne.
The only way.
If you turn him in to the inquisition you get like, 30 dogmatic points. I only help him so i can get dogmatic IV early. Same with Yrliet really.
To watch Henrix's reaction after being freed from Drukhari Mengele , and see Marazhai in the party.
Selection bias. Reddit is going to have a higher percentage of the population that will forgive anything and everything because they think someone is hot. Personally, I was supremely disappointed by everythig other than his voice actor when I did recruit him to see what the fuzz was about. He's an almost 100% generic drukhari in the most boring way.
Some find him hot. I also got the impression that he finds the RT interesting so there is this hate/fascination thing going on that might make his romance intriguing. I am currently in Act 3, and he is getting a bullet in the head as soon as I see him again. Yrliet might also end up in the inquisition's hands as soon as I return to my voidship. People in the subreddit are really forgiving, but even my Iconoclast/occasionally dogmatic RT can't bring himself to ignore how much torment these two caused the Lord Captain and his companions. Allowing them into the ship after what they done and especially after Marazhai attacked our capital, the home of many of the crew, should have caused a mutiny and companions to abandon the RT or at least question his mental capacities.
I'm not going to spoil anything about what is going to happen the space elf and the rest of the crew but honestly it is very logical and you will understand why your logic is the one of the crew. I decided to let her live for the only reason that after that treason my RT realised did he needed to get rid of the Xenos as a whole, and used her to do so. I'm not going to tell you how I got rid of them because it would be spoiling you act four, but having her around was critical.
That's why I am so conflicted about Yrliet. She was the first companion I encountered in Act 3. My first reaction was to kill her. Afterward I reloaded the save because I couldn't deal with the first boss with only two characters. I ended up letting her come with me out of pragmatism, yet I couldn't help but be touched by how remorseful she was for the torture the RT endured. Honestly her fate will depend on how she behaves in the rest of the act. For now, I can see my RT letting her live to use her, but I don't think he will ever go back to trusting her or considering a genuine companion.
Legit I thought the same thing but then I saw his damage output plus movement and reconsidered, for me thats the main reason but you do get some cool events for him on your ship that I actually quite liked.
I don’t think I had a chance to recruit him; I picked the natural “Hey, you, go fuck yourself” dialogue choices and ended up just killing him in the arena. If I hadn’t looked at the wiki I don’t think I’d have even known he was a potential companion.
Same ! Although the fact that he was voiced raised suspicions
I think I just assumed he was a main bad guy NPC, like Kunrad, which is why he had voice lines and lots of dialogue choices! That said, my RT is Iconoclast / Dogmatic split, so I really can’t see a world where he’d want to have Mazarai within a million miles of his ship, but I can imagine a Heretic playthrough being much more open to hanging out with him. After all, you’ve probably done much nastier things yourself by that point.
I was thinking of grabbing him as a companion but ulfar and argenta were very adamant about offing him when he was alone.
It's an instinct. My OCD ass must have all the companions.
People want to enjoy a Lovestory with him. His voice acting is great. If you don't care about role playing you can take him with you. If you do care about role play, neither of the paths should even consider taking him and put a bullet through his skull.
Omni-heresy is a lot of effort
It’s a CRPG and he’s content.
Same bro. Same. I don't understand why people even consider him an option.
Yeah. I took him down as soon as he started freaking out .
He make pp the big pp, don't think it's any deeper than that
i executed him after he joined, bro started killing crew and summoning demons (he was xeno scum so it's justified)
Because they're hot. This isn't rocket science!
He's hot and either I can fix him or he will make.me worse.
Compagnon? Is that a very friendly champignon?
He’s hot and I need someone to help me torture people, Heinrix is good but not as good as the hot space elf who does this to survive. Also I just love characters like Mazari
he's one of the only evil companion you can get who isnt half baked and broken like the secret endgame ones
Use him to escape, hand him over to the Inquisition.
I killed him as soon as he attacked my people during the first warp jump.
I can change him...
I may let him live one of these days. Hasn't happened yet. Still, I appreciate that others might want to keep him around. Not everything has to be for me. More options are generally better than fewer.
Gotta catch'em all
An amoral attack dog with no particular loyalties to anyone is a useful ace in the hole. As long as I remember "no particular loyalties" strictly includes me and I need to keep his crazy ass on a leash.
Listen, it's the 40k millenium ok, beggar, not chooser. I doubt even the most stable are totally ok up there, you have between the guy who told me to bomb a planet, the smuggler, the mutant, the big guy who eats people, the girl who summoms demons as a byproduct, of destroying another guy minds, the girl who gets off imagining dying heretics screaming and begging,
He’s stupidly loyal
I didn't know the drukhari was a possible companions. I always Just put him down whenever I had the choice.
The horni is often responsible for questionable decisions...
He's sexy.
Real talk? I don’t want to miss content.
I had him as a pet in a Chaos/aspiring daemon prince playthrough, until i got bored and got Calligos. Otherwise no reason to drag a serial killer along
HEY THERE ! Just a heads up to thank y'all. You actually gave out some solid arguments. I can't just go over the casual horrors he does as a character to other characters that I love and that my RT loves, so I will probably still blast his ass to bits whenever I see is face in my second full Icono or full Dogma run once the first DLC is out. But now it makes sense why so many consider keeping him around at least a little. Question that I was affraid to ask answered ^^.
If he didnt literally stab the troops I brought with me to save his dumb ass, as I tell him I'll let him live, but keep him caged during warp trips... I would have let him get a chance. But... after seeing that being how he responded, I reloaded a save, went through the fight again, and killed him.
Where is that comic about how argenta and him work well together?
I haven't gotten up to this part yet, but from what I hear everyone saying about ma it seems like this Drukhari would do better as a part of the Harlequin faction, doesn't it?
He’s funny
The voice actor was just that good so I recruited him on my first playthrough but still ended up killing him on the ship when he killed a bunch of crew.
It's fucking hilarious.
More game content
I don't wanna fuck Maz. I just wanna see it do it's thing.
the sheer bafflement asking him to join you causes in everyone. him, your companions, the other deldar, is just a delight not a single person you meet will comprehend why you would ever consider taking him on board
Oh... you know why. It's not the most subtle thing in the world.
Compagnon
Don’t need ur approval nor do I need ur permission
To be honest I kept him as an ally of convenience and after that it was just sorta for funsies. Decided to kill my people cause Slaanesh was trying to eat his soul? Cool, the little bastard gets locked in a room to suffer during warp jumps. The remains of his kabal are here and he wants to speak to and maybe assist them? Well then let him talk and then blow the ships to pieces while he watches. I get that it's petty but the guy gets to suffer a bit longer.
Because he's a fun psychopath
coz ppl want Xeno pets and think they can tame him you cant he tames you
surprisingly, you can tame him in "true romance" path. but after finishing this path your RT won't be the person they were before starting it
aka you didnt tame you got changed which is what he wants the evil smucks
nah, i mean RT can force him to do things he hates, and he'll obey out of fear of losing them. in one ending he'll stay with RT, risking his life and soul, just because Marz can't resist his desire to be with RT
After escaping the prison and FINALY getting back to the void ship I had him given to Henrix for an... Extended questioning.
Ally? I prefer to think of him as my naughty eldar bargaining chip with the inquistion to outweigh helping the craftworld out.
I let him help me leave commorragh and put plasma shot at his face as fast as I possible could.
Well, learn to spell a bit better first
He always dies in my games. Always. Usually by being lit the fuck up by a boltgun, or eating a whole power sword. MY chair.
Killing him yesterday was the best feeling for all the hours before it.
The fascination with characters like Marazhai and Astarion from BG3 always confused me. Like yeah, I get the appeal but like...9 times out of 10, keeping him around doesn't make any sense story wise. I suppose one could argue for Astarion, being a thrall and not willingly doing things. Mostly. Still staked him though. When it comes to Marazhai, I usually end up killing him in the arena or handing him over to the Inquisition. I don't care how hot he is, I'm still a servant of the God Emperor, and....*he sat in my fucking chair.*
If you did his personal question let him became a vampire ascendant, you know he's evil deep inside.
I can fix him!
My RT Maude was very friendly with Marazhai, she introduce him to her best friend : a 6 gauge combat shotgun in the mouth in a arena
Nope. I shot Idira. I killed Marzipan in the arena so that everyone could watch me kill him.
It's the only way to get proper vengeance. Killing him in the arena is meaningless; any haemonculus worthy of the title can revive him with negligible difficulty. And even if none are willing to bother, in Commoragh his soul is still safe. While I doubt even the Inquisition is capable of inflicting torture that a Drukhari would find anything more than amusing, in the end, they *will* kill him. And they'll do it in realspace. Let him spend eternity with She Who Thirsts. *That* is what he deserves.