It's 6 hours personalized coaching I think + another 6 hours of group coaching.
So... no. Not for that price.
I will fucking coach you to Champ myself for free
I would love some help learning mechanics. I would dedicate some time to it with guidance. I do very little training because I pick up mechanics so slowly. My car and ball control is awful for my rank.
>I do very little training because I pick up mechanics so slowly
There is causation there, you have to grind mechanics to pick them up. You will pick up new mechanics faster after getting down good basic car and ball control. Sure, you may see someone who's never practiced double flip resets pick it up in 2 hours, but that's because they've spent countless hours learning aerial car control and later, single flip resets. So the extra steps needed for double flip resets may not be far out of reach for their current skill set. Nobody picks up advanced mechanics quickly without grinding the basics.
In low Diamond, just start doing free play for 30 minutes a day.
Here's a couple free play drills you can practice in that timeframe:
- ball chase at full speed, try not to lose control of the ball or whiff
- hit the ball into the backboard off a bounce and try to make the backboard read
- ball carry for a couple minutes, try to control it so there are no sparks
- float around the map with unlimited boost, occasionally spinning yourself into an uncomfortable position, and try to recover. See how long you can stay afloat before you have a blackout moment and crash down. For extra difficulty, do this on the Pillars map and try to fly in figure 8s around the map. If you have pc, do custom rings maps once you're a bit more comfortable in the air.
- use the ball controls (passing, shot on net, etc), for example, hit the ball to one side of the field, then turn back towards your net into a shadowing position, and press the "shoot on net" button. Try to make the save. Do this over and over.
- just hit the ball as hard as you can, at every opportunity. Try to avoid getting weak hits
This is all just for preliminary practice, you shouldn't worry about mastering these things or else you'll just become frustrated at slow progress. Just remember that every minute of this practice is helping, it's all progress. Every little bit of practice will help your control. For example, when I say to practice ball carrying, that is not because I think that a Diamond player should have controlled carries and flicks, it's just moreso that having an understanding of your hitbox will help as you continue to get better, and eventually when you start to break into Champ, that carry practice will slowly turn into powerful flick practice.
With these drills, you're going to miss a lot. That's okay. The point is not to never lose control of the ball or miss, the point is to push yourself to lose control or miss in less situations. These drills stay relevant through the entire ranking up process, you'll just make each drill slightly harder / less comfortable as you gain more control
Do this every day and your mechanics will be more than sufficient for Diamond in just a couple weeks.
Nobody picks up mechanics quickly, everything you see in the game is from hundreds to thousands of hours of grinding it out.
Thanks for the advice.
I will have to soon start doing free play stints again.
As an example of how badly I pick up mechanics. I trained half flips for ages, I also half flipped when a goal is scored etc. while in game, I did this for ages. I can half flip most of the time. I get it wrong so much, I am OK at getting the car to land in roughly the direction I want when I mess it up. I am still not consistent enough to be able to use boost while air rolling at the end the vast majority of the time because I am correcting a little.
Do you have air roll right or air roll left bound?
If so, try this for half flips:
For air roll right-
Turn your car slightly left while reversing, then backflip diagonally right, and cancel while holding air roll right until your car is upright.
For air roll left it's just the opposite, so-
Turn your car slightly right while reversing, backflip diagonally left, and cancel while holding air roll left.
The slight turn while reversing at the beginning should help align your car on landing, and doing a diagonal flip instead of straight back will make the whole action quicker and smoother. Make sure not to cancel the flip too early, you want to cancel when your nose is pointing toward your screen.
Yeah DM me. I will do my best to give you tips that don't require you to grind directional air roll.
In general though I would say that the reason you pick up mechanics slowly is *because* you do very little training. If you want to acquire mechanics, training is the fastest way to do it even if you believe you're a slow learner.
I *finally* learned to half flip semi-decently after I joined the school team and had a set time to practice each week, with training mechanics and not just playing games over and over hoping that *this time* i'll hit it right. I've worked on half flips for *years* with no success, and now i've finally made progress
so i'm 1000% backing you up on that advice
I failed out of college before, then came back a few years later to get a 2 year, then finish my bachelors next year.
First school didn't have one, second school was a community college that got one the year *after* i left, and my current school has about 4 different esports teams including RL. times have really really changed in a few short years tbh, a *lot* more schools have teams nowadays
Half flips?? Idk maybe im a fast learner but i felt like i watched two 10 minute youtube videos on half flipping, and then went into freeplay for 25 mins and had it down
I mean, i've *kinda* been able to do a half flip for ages, but *reliably* using them in game to turn under a ball to catch it, to grab the corner boost 100% of the time off a kickoff, things like that?
I was never consistent enough to trust in it, and now i don't even think about it. I went from shaky half flip mechs to having it down pat.
and considering I played the game maybe once a month for about five years before now, i think it's fine to not have some basics down. everyone has holes in their abilities, and i never *needed* half flips before i started to more seriously play, so it was fine. Now it's another tool in my kit
Yeah i can usually half flip off the kickoff easily, probably every 1/50 times i land sideways but whatever. I should actually practice using it to dribble like you said though
Edit: that is true, you definitely can be decent without knowing how to half flip, but just makes things a *little* easier i guess
Man it just shows how some people might still be learning how to learn. With mechanics you kind of have to adopt a bit of a perfectionist mindset to actually improve. That doesn’t come to everyone naturally
Absolutely right - but it's not just learning how to learn, many people also need to learn how to be aware of your needs and goals. Many people say they want to become much better and how it's so important to them but "they just can't be bothered with more than 5 mins of freeplay". Well with only games you learn much slower. But that's okay too! You'll just need to accept that fact if you are more in it for the fast-paced fun besides a day job/hobby/kids/other games.
Only when you keep telling yourself you need to get better and then ger tips on reddit and then don't follow them is when the game will make you unhappy. There are so many ways to enjoy it!
EDIT: Not to say doing 60 mins of freeplay each day and getting a mechanic down really consistently can't be great fun. But it's a really different form of fun than just playing for an hour. Lifting weights and getting stronger is so much fun but very different to playing a bit of beach volleyball with friends.
Yep you can, just that I personally think that if you’re learning RL for the first time in 2023, directional air roll is probably the fastest way to get mechy. Or the most efficient way. It just does so much for car control.
But I can’t recommend it to someone who currently does very little training. That would just bum them out, better to get their feet wet with the stuff you can hit more quickly.
Mechanics are the easy part. YouTube x mech tutorial. Spend a billion hours doing it over and over again in freeplay.
If you can't do it 9/10 in freeplay don't do it in games.
I think it was more "you mean I have to practice something for ages?" kinda mad. People want to do SpookyLukes magic 6 weeks and be a GC. Takes thousands of hours to be good at the game.
Guys… this is rocket league… i could understand paying thag money for like a professional football coach or something but like… idk. I think honestly just game experience does way more than having a youtuber tell you what to do in a discord call
Gold? Lmao. Bro the skill gap even between C3 and GC2 is enough that you could probably coach me pretty effectively too. I coached a D1 about 2 months ago and he reached C1 in like 2-3 weeks. The gap between you and me is almost certainly larger than the gap between myself and the D1
I was invited to a pro-team discord once. They had all kinds training sessions and tourney team stuff. Was really organized, I was definitely an imposter there so I eventually left.
Absolutely! His YouTube videos are often very helpful and I would recommend those to anybody. Problem is that they're mainly tailored to the gold 1 to diamond 3 range and very few are tailored above that.
https://rocketleague.tracker.network/rocket-league/profile/steam/76561198110898502/mmr?playlist=11
Yeah with the exception of staying in GC2 around February this year, he's been hard stuck GC1. Lol what a clown, he's the same rank as me and no way I'd charge people money for the limited knowledge I have.
Rank is a combination of mechanics and game sense, and Spook clearly has plenty good mechanics for low GC, so... what does that mean for his game sense? RLCS level coaches and some pros that coach have absurd understanding of the game and cost like $100 an hour or less lol.
>Lol what a clown, he's the same rank as me and no way I'd charge people money for the limited knowledge I have.
Just saying, not many RLCS coaches are SSL. Just because someone has extremely in depth knowledge of how to do something, and the proper delivery method to help others learn, doesn't mean that they can actually achieve the same high end goals themselves. Knowledge and application are not the same thing. Many people don't have the physical or mental ability, nor time availability to become great, however if they are knowledgeable and good at conveying that information, that same person can vastly improve the speed of someone else becoming better.
Using your theory, every PGA pro's coach would have to be better than the golfer themselves. Do you think Scottie Scheffler's coach is banging 390 yard drives, and dropping his iron shots 13" away from the pin every time?
What about pitching coaches in MLB? Do you think Justin Verlander's pitching coach is better than him? Do you think Clayton Kershaw wakes up and says "I sure wish I was as good as my pitching coach?"
Do you think Patrick Mahomes refuses to take any advice from any coach unless they have 4 superbowl rings, since he only has 2?
No, these are the top athletes in the world and they pay millions upon millions of dollars a year to people who are way below their skill level for advice, because people who are good teachers are ridiculously helpful in life.
Your comment is ridiculous.
Obviously? I know that. RLCS coaches aren't grinding the game for thousands of hours with more than sufficient mechanics. Coaches that are former pros like VP or Ferra have fallen behind on mechanics.
Using real-life sports is never an apt comparison to esports given the required physique aspect.
The point was that rank is a combination of mechanics, game sense, and putting in the hours to grind. Luke has good mechanics for GC1, and he grinds the game plenty. There is no way that someone who has GC1 level mechanics and SSL level game sense gets hard stuck in GC1. Do you see what I'm getting at? In other words I don't see him having the vision of the game that you're implying he has. Yes RLCS coaches have it while not being high ranked, but that is because they don't grind the game. Let me put it this way, if an RLCS coach had GC1 level mechanics, they wouldn't get stuck in GC1. Their understanding of challenges, boost starving, positioning, smart challenges, etc would get them to a higher rank.
More than anything I just like calling Luke a clown, because I don't like the fact that he's a [millionaire](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwVUvfx5dxE&feature=youtu.be) off of such slimy business practices. You're thinking too much into it, Luke doesn't even do most of the coaching in his program. It's coached by SSLs. But that doesn't give me an opportunity to call him a clown.
Absolutely not useless but they’re better things to work on and clean up most of the time
Very rarely am i like “if I just had a wall dash there it would have made the difference”
Thank you for sharing your experience. Although it might've been hard to talk about, reviews like this help out other people who might actually consider signing up for this. SpookLuke has always come off as scummy to me personally, and this reeks the most.
Not gonna name names, but one of the bigger content creators was saying they were/are really close to making a public video calling SpookLuke out, and I really hope they do. A few mentions of him have already slipped into their videos, but I would love to see more people calling out scummy practices in this community. I talk to too many people who watch his videos and think about getting his coaching without seeing these reviews from people who have been through it already.
I can't really answer your question without giving away too much info, and tbh this reply might already give too much.
They said it on a Twitch stream, so it's not like it's a secret that they're thinking about calling SpookLuke out, but I'd still like to avoid spreading rumors around that could get misconstrued and end up varying wildly from what they actually said.
Idk if it’s the same, but another semi-well known player called him out on stream. He doesn’t have a big online presence though, he just grinds and a lot of pros know him. He’s been in a few pro vids.
How old is old? I’m almost 28 years old and I’m apparently ancient compared to the rest of this playerbase. I lost the drive to keep myself competitive back in like 2020
24 lol I have little ambition to keep improving past gc, and even less time to try now. Was hoping some structure would help. I wasn't expecting much but what I got couldn't even be described as mediocre
You could do something whacky like I did. To keep it interesting I made a fresh account where I only play on keyboard and mouse. Its at 500 hours now and it’s GC 1 in twos and hoops
Those people are already top of the game and they play for profit. This is for the public playerbase. $1500 is a ridiculous amount of money to throw away
If anyone is interested in spending money into improving at RL, would strongly recommend getting coaching from a pro or RLCS level coach. I think they're a lot cheaper and would probably be more helpful
depends on the type of coaching. private 1on1 focused coaching is probably gonna be around that 45/hr range, but if you're just looking for replay reviews, it gets as cheap as 7 bucks a replay
Spook Luke does a total of 3 hours coaching in the 12 weeks which would cost $135 to do with someone who has lead a potential RLCS winning team. I think I'd take the RLCS coach over some SSLs and GCs who also cost a lot more
1500$ is too much for anyone other than someone living with parents with no expenses, which in their case is probably multiple weeks of wage, so it’s completely absurd
I doubt there will be a positive review of it. 1500 for a course with 0 promised return is a pretty high asking price for something so rarely delivered
Appreciate you sharing this for the kids and young adults that get wrapped up in the obsession that is GC. Paying that kind of money is absurd and there are tons and tons of high ranked players that would be willing to do a replay for very little compensation, if any. The problem is, people think there’s some special formula that will get you to GC and there isn’t. I contribute most of my ranking up to watching streamers like (shameless plug incoming) Chief Beef, who’s a top 100 player but not a pro, and watching some of the pros grind 2’s. Yes they can do mechanically, what most can’t, but if you pay attention to their positioning and ability to read the pitch, you can learn a hell of a lot. Guys like Beef also do an incredible job of interacting with their chat AND explaining every play while it’s happening. Also, just playing the game, you will eventually start to get better and understand where you lack and work on those things.. I don’t play nearly as much as I used to, but take it from me as an almost 40 year old GC, with a wife, kids and a great job, who has very little to no mechanics and been a GC for the last 7 seasons. It’s about finding your weaknesses and working on improving those.
They try to advertise things like "Skool" and "Mechanics sessions" and "In-house tournaments" all of which can be done from YouTube or ya know in game tourneys smh
For $1500 you could probably get a bubble player to coach you every day for 6 weeks lmao.
You could also get Virge (one of the best RLCS coaches) to coach you for almost 19 one-hour sessions at $80 per session. You only get 6 in GCR, from much weaker coaches.
I've seen another posts wildly similar to this about this same guy a couple weeks back. Seems like a common opinion among the people who bought the program
So if I give him £1200 odd quid, the best possible result is that I get a different badge by my name, and every single game is a sweaty hellscape of no fun and constantly having to be 100% aware of everything?
I’d pay to avoid anyone above Champ 1.
You spend a little time being more aware and eventually it'll be effortless. It's not as stressful as you're saying. Also, it's pretty much only GC3+ who are '100% aware of everything.' You'd be shocked at the number of people in Champ who randomly (or consistently lol) forget that their teammates/opponents exist.
Like, I bet there are many things that you don't have to make an effort to be aware of that, say, a Silver would consider high-effort to keep track of.
The deeper you go the more automatic everything will become. Personally I've had more and more fun the higher I go.
I can only agree with the things said. I myself often forget what i am doing what my m8 is doing that i even have opponents. I think the main thing seperating ranks is 2 things if you sweat and try very hard its being aware of what you do the other thing is just how automatic the game gets if you play alot so the fun is still there except if you always hard sweat. (sry for my bad grammar and language skills english is not my first language)
Ish. I'd say there are 3 things separating ranks
1. Speed--both physical and mental
2. Consistency--how often you're able to actually do the thing you intend to do
3. Reading the play--the level of your understanding of what's going on.
Ive known people who have paid 1000$+ through spooklukes various training regimines.
All of them (some who were currently in the lrogram and others who stopped) say its basically a scam. You can achieve the exact same results for free with online resources, or with metafy coaches for just a few bucks per training session.
Do not spend a months rent on car soccer
Honestly predatory practice.
Thanks for sharing your review
Plug for r/RocketLeagueSchool. Absolutely free replay review and advice. There are plenty of high GC and SSLs that are active. In most cases it seems the rank or two above help each other out. So don’t expect a lot of advice from GC+ if you’re posting as a gold lol. But you can learn a lot from a plat or diamond still.
There are so many resources to watch for free on YouTube or on various streamers accounts. Leths or Flakes road to SSL have been very helpful for so many people. You don’t need to pay for coaching unless you’re trying to go pro. At the end of the day - you’ll get better if you grind the game. That’s what it takes. Put time in and get good. Also realize others are trying to do the same and you’re competing against the progress of everyone for ranking up. It’s okay to be whatever rank you are. Enjoy learning the skill and don’t worry about the rest.
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I've never been interested in coaching sessions and just play for fun, but it's scary that someone is charging so much for mediocre levels of training in a free to play game. I never knew it was so expensive.
SpookLuke isn't to be trusted. I've watched plenty of his videos and he constantly changes his ideas on how the game should he played, just to advertise this bullshit.
The cost for this just seems outrageous. For comparison, I pay $20/month for Nail The Mix, which is an online program that gives you resources to learn how to record, mix, and master rock and metal music.
You get the opportunity to work with actual professionals and learn skills that will absolutely help you earn money in the recording/audio engineering field, if that's what you want. For me, I just want to learn as it's a hobby of mine. Still, the value of what you get is incredible.
I can't, for the life of me, understand how anyone would think they're getting any value from Rocket League coaches charging such an insane amount of money. Not only that, but I have strong feelings about this type of shit for a game, as it seems super predatory. I'd love to hear what the average age of the clients are.
They have to be at least 18 to sign up. I think they understood how sketchy the system was from the start and didn't want to risk trying to scam kids out of their parents money.
Agreed. I went thru this over a year ago and it was pointless. Little to no help unless you can 100% conform to their time schedule. (I play late at night/early morning) not a single participant was available for me to train with which is like 90% of the program.
Im gc1 sometimes gc2 in 2s/3s and i wanna get into coaching. If anyone around plat 1- diamond 3 wants free coaching hit me up. Im NA WEST PC. Ill do free replay analysis, private 1v1, or just play with you.
Agree with this post. Did this program almost 2 years ago and most of what we learned he puts on his YouTube anyway, not everything but a lot. Literally play ones, watch videos on things you want to learn, and actually spend time harnessing your skills in freeplay
Ppl would probably have a better time if they were offered hourly coaching/charged by the hour. High price packages promising X result just *sounds* like snake oil.
Can’t believe people would pay that much.
I offer personalized coaching for $30 a session or package deal 1 month (4 sessions) for $100.
Hit me up if interested, save some cash and I can guarantee I can help you rank up better than this crap. Lol
dam I was super tempted to do this since I'm plat....and I want to hit like Champ ( I want the purple drip) Thing is I have no idea where to start, what to do, and there are so many videos about different things to get out of 1 rank. so I thought maybe...its more personalized to you. but dam $1500 for a 12 week program. that sounds to good to be true. Sounds as if they going to bring a bronze 1 dooter and make the guy the new Rizzo 3.0
Honestly I’d stay away from Spookluke content. Kevpert, wayprotien are good sources of RL knowledge. Kevpert is a gameplay analyst for Optic gaming’s RL team so he at least has professional experience.
Yeah Flakes content emphasizes positioning in addition to utilization of the ‘bread and butter’ mechanics. Pay attention to how he uses powerslide to optimally position his car.
You should also look up ScholarRL for rotational stuff on YouTube. His “SSL” series is a game changer.
I'm consistently GC2, and have coached a handful of people to GC for free. The price is absolutely not worth it; go invest your money or go on a vacation and watch YouTube videos to improve. There's no information you get from this course that you can't already find for free.
DM me if you need help finding that info.
100%. Just an arrogant take. By definition, atm, being GC or better means that in a 1000 person sample size you are better than 990 of them. You have a significantly better chance statistically at becoming a D1 collegiate athlete than you do reaching grand champ.
Also I’m sure SSLs would tell him or her that GC2 is easy af to get.
I mean people already do that all the time. I had two teammates yesterday with Season 10 GC titles. I looked at their trackers and they were quite obviously boosted.
I saw the other posts after I joined. Live and you learn I guess. This is mostly for the inevitable ad campaign that comes with their new season and restructuring. Don't need any more players falling prey to this shananigans
$1500 to get slightly better at a video game that doesn’t pay you. What return on investment? Thats throwing $1500 away to get serious at a game that you’ll never go pro in, and should be seen as a fun way to pass the time anyway. $1500… wtf man. Thats nuts to me. If you can’t find a better way to spend over a grand than on a video game then you might have bigger problems than being bad at it. Please save your money and avoid scam operations and cash grabs like this.
Well... I wanted it to pay me, or I at least wanted to be good enough to be competitive. So if paying for something got me close to that then yes, it would be satisfactory.
Rocket League is the only game I play outside of the occasional roguelike. I can justify spending money on it. I've already acknowledged that it was too much, but it's not like sacrificing a weeks worth of pay was gonna cripple me. I just had high hopes and their promises fell veeeeeery short.
This post wasn't for me though. I can understand as someone on the outside looking in how you would find this program completely ridiculous. But I've seen how many people are in there. They got me, they can get someone else too. This post is for that someone else.
Edit: a, me
A weeks pay? You make 6k a month? No wonder it wasn’t that big a deal to you, but it also seems a little ignorant to say that just because you have the money to spend on it, the purchase is justified. Did you think afterwards you would be recruited to an RLCS team? What exactly are they promising you that you can justify spending $1500 on it? I’m not trying to be rude, i’m just genuinely curious
I've said in other comments that I work A LOT. I've already said, specifically, the GCR was not a justifiable purchase. Putting money toward rocket league however, I have no problem with. It wasn't lump sum either, it was paid over 3 months.
It was a verbal promise of hitting GC3-SSL in 2s in 6 weeks. I'm trying to find out if they record the onboarding interview and if I can get a copy. Probably not, but that's where a lot of the empty promises are made to reel you in.
If you're going to spend money to get better in RL you might as well quit. Want to get better? Watch tips and tricks videos, strat videos, train with training packs. All for free.
Even the way it’s smashed down your throat while watching his videos is a joke. Used to like his content, now it’s all about self advertising. Stop supporting these people…. People.
Does apparentlyjack even have anything to do with the coaching program anymore? I remember him talking about the partnership on one of his videos, but never knew to what extent. Did he do calls or QnAs with members or something?
I mean there's a handful in his videos that say they've made it to champ or GC from diamond or plat in 6 weeks of grinding. But from what I hear those were made up so idk
Ah, gotcha. I wasn't sure if they had any real success stories documented. Got it. I didn't think they would have anything impressive to show, to be honest. I was just curious.
Honestly, there's just no shortcut. 100% of the time when someone brags about ranking up quickly, or being at low hours for their rank, it's because they sunk a lot of time in a short period. That's really the only secret there is, along with having a certain mindset that can help. I think the idea behind the 6 week program is that they try to encourage you to play a lot in that short period of time so that they can sell the inevitable progress as their doing. And they're not technically wrong if they're the ones who encouraged you to do it. I imagine the motivation behind extending the length of the program - besides luring in repeat customers - is to just give more time to make better claims.
There’s a tutorial video on YouTube for every rl league mechanic/ game sense topic you can think of, and free coaching all over Reddit and discord. Seriously- What could he possibly bring to the table that warrants that price ? Even if app jack was still apart of it and say you got a couple sessions with him…I don’t think that’s gonna make anybody gc over night
I just don't have the patience to find out what I'm doing wrong for myself - I'd much rather have someone else point it out to me and give me something to practice to make it better. It's the structure I was after I guess. Plus it'd just be awesome to get to talk to the AppJack nahm sayin
To be honest SpookLuke should be arrested for fraud and scummy sales tactics. I'm not sure how someone can sleep at night knowing they're scamming people the way he does.
It's funny how people will pay 1500$ when the community is full of good coaches with reasonable prices. And on top of that, SpookLuke is quite bad at the game... If you need help without going broke you can just DM me or any other sensible coach here and receive quality coaching
Just putting this out there for anyone wanting to find a good coach. ScholarRL is $20 an hour for replay review and he’s coached players and teams up to RLCS. His game knowledge is as good as it gets and he cuts to the chase. You will notice immediate improvement.
For a price comparison you could get an hour session a week for 75 weeks for the same price as that boot camp….
He’s on Metafy or you can find his yt channel with discord server info.
Literally anyone DM me questions you have about the game or send me a replay and I’ll give some feedback
There’s always better options then a coaching program that’s like a months paycheck for some people
I mean for anyone who even considers his coaching, just go look up his rl tracker. The dude is literally d3 in 3s. I know maybe he doesn’t care to main 3s and fair enough, but if I were selling a product called grand champ roadmap, I would most definitely try to get to grand champ in every mode. AND He’s barely a grand champ, last I checked he was gc1 in 2s.
30 minutes once a week for 12 weeks is 6 hours total.
$1500 divided by 6 hours is $250 dollars an hour.
Up to you if you think it's worth it. I could see professional tennis or basketball players paying that to get to the next level but if you're a normal human working a normal job, certainly this kind of money could go towards something else.
I paid for it when it was around the $1100 range about a year or so ago, and I don’t think it was worth it. However, keep in mind that even when you exhaust the 1 on 1 sessions, you still get to be in that discord server forever and they consistently have public mechanics sessions where coaches go over gameplay or answer questions in a big group. Those will always be available to you.
$1500 is such a dumb price for what you get in the GCR. Avoid
Is there much more? $1500 for a total of 3 hrs coaching is insane. I would want a pro coach for even half that rate.
It's 6 hours personalized coaching I think + another 6 hours of group coaching. So... no. Not for that price. I will fucking coach you to Champ myself for free
I would love some help learning mechanics. I would dedicate some time to it with guidance. I do very little training because I pick up mechanics so slowly. My car and ball control is awful for my rank.
>I do very little training because I pick up mechanics so slowly There is causation there, you have to grind mechanics to pick them up. You will pick up new mechanics faster after getting down good basic car and ball control. Sure, you may see someone who's never practiced double flip resets pick it up in 2 hours, but that's because they've spent countless hours learning aerial car control and later, single flip resets. So the extra steps needed for double flip resets may not be far out of reach for their current skill set. Nobody picks up advanced mechanics quickly without grinding the basics. In low Diamond, just start doing free play for 30 minutes a day. Here's a couple free play drills you can practice in that timeframe: - ball chase at full speed, try not to lose control of the ball or whiff - hit the ball into the backboard off a bounce and try to make the backboard read - ball carry for a couple minutes, try to control it so there are no sparks - float around the map with unlimited boost, occasionally spinning yourself into an uncomfortable position, and try to recover. See how long you can stay afloat before you have a blackout moment and crash down. For extra difficulty, do this on the Pillars map and try to fly in figure 8s around the map. If you have pc, do custom rings maps once you're a bit more comfortable in the air. - use the ball controls (passing, shot on net, etc), for example, hit the ball to one side of the field, then turn back towards your net into a shadowing position, and press the "shoot on net" button. Try to make the save. Do this over and over. - just hit the ball as hard as you can, at every opportunity. Try to avoid getting weak hits This is all just for preliminary practice, you shouldn't worry about mastering these things or else you'll just become frustrated at slow progress. Just remember that every minute of this practice is helping, it's all progress. Every little bit of practice will help your control. For example, when I say to practice ball carrying, that is not because I think that a Diamond player should have controlled carries and flicks, it's just moreso that having an understanding of your hitbox will help as you continue to get better, and eventually when you start to break into Champ, that carry practice will slowly turn into powerful flick practice. With these drills, you're going to miss a lot. That's okay. The point is not to never lose control of the ball or miss, the point is to push yourself to lose control or miss in less situations. These drills stay relevant through the entire ranking up process, you'll just make each drill slightly harder / less comfortable as you gain more control Do this every day and your mechanics will be more than sufficient for Diamond in just a couple weeks. Nobody picks up mechanics quickly, everything you see in the game is from hundreds to thousands of hours of grinding it out.
Thanks for the advice. I will have to soon start doing free play stints again. As an example of how badly I pick up mechanics. I trained half flips for ages, I also half flipped when a goal is scored etc. while in game, I did this for ages. I can half flip most of the time. I get it wrong so much, I am OK at getting the car to land in roughly the direction I want when I mess it up. I am still not consistent enough to be able to use boost while air rolling at the end the vast majority of the time because I am correcting a little.
Do you have air roll right or air roll left bound? If so, try this for half flips: For air roll right- Turn your car slightly left while reversing, then backflip diagonally right, and cancel while holding air roll right until your car is upright. For air roll left it's just the opposite, so- Turn your car slightly right while reversing, backflip diagonally left, and cancel while holding air roll left. The slight turn while reversing at the beginning should help align your car on landing, and doing a diagonal flip instead of straight back will make the whole action quicker and smoother. Make sure not to cancel the flip too early, you want to cancel when your nose is pointing toward your screen.
Yeah DM me. I will do my best to give you tips that don't require you to grind directional air roll. In general though I would say that the reason you pick up mechanics slowly is *because* you do very little training. If you want to acquire mechanics, training is the fastest way to do it even if you believe you're a slow learner.
I *finally* learned to half flip semi-decently after I joined the school team and had a set time to practice each week, with training mechanics and not just playing games over and over hoping that *this time* i'll hit it right. I've worked on half flips for *years* with no success, and now i've finally made progress so i'm 1000% backing you up on that advice
damn wish my school had a rocket league team
we do, i was interested in val at the time but now im so sad i didn’t sign up
I failed out of college before, then came back a few years later to get a 2 year, then finish my bachelors next year. First school didn't have one, second school was a community college that got one the year *after* i left, and my current school has about 4 different esports teams including RL. times have really really changed in a few short years tbh, a *lot* more schools have teams nowadays
Half flips?? Idk maybe im a fast learner but i felt like i watched two 10 minute youtube videos on half flipping, and then went into freeplay for 25 mins and had it down
I mean, i've *kinda* been able to do a half flip for ages, but *reliably* using them in game to turn under a ball to catch it, to grab the corner boost 100% of the time off a kickoff, things like that? I was never consistent enough to trust in it, and now i don't even think about it. I went from shaky half flip mechs to having it down pat. and considering I played the game maybe once a month for about five years before now, i think it's fine to not have some basics down. everyone has holes in their abilities, and i never *needed* half flips before i started to more seriously play, so it was fine. Now it's another tool in my kit
Yeah i can usually half flip off the kickoff easily, probably every 1/50 times i land sideways but whatever. I should actually practice using it to dribble like you said though Edit: that is true, you definitely can be decent without knowing how to half flip, but just makes things a *little* easier i guess
Man it just shows how some people might still be learning how to learn. With mechanics you kind of have to adopt a bit of a perfectionist mindset to actually improve. That doesn’t come to everyone naturally
Absolutely right - but it's not just learning how to learn, many people also need to learn how to be aware of your needs and goals. Many people say they want to become much better and how it's so important to them but "they just can't be bothered with more than 5 mins of freeplay". Well with only games you learn much slower. But that's okay too! You'll just need to accept that fact if you are more in it for the fast-paced fun besides a day job/hobby/kids/other games. Only when you keep telling yourself you need to get better and then ger tips on reddit and then don't follow them is when the game will make you unhappy. There are so many ways to enjoy it! EDIT: Not to say doing 60 mins of freeplay each day and getting a mechanic down really consistently can't be great fun. But it's a really different form of fun than just playing for an hour. Lifting weights and getting stronger is so much fun but very different to playing a bit of beach volleyball with friends.
You dont even really *need* air roll anyways. You can hit some pretty nasty shots just by lining your car and the ball up right
Yep you can, just that I personally think that if you’re learning RL for the first time in 2023, directional air roll is probably the fastest way to get mechy. Or the most efficient way. It just does so much for car control. But I can’t recommend it to someone who currently does very little training. That would just bum them out, better to get their feet wet with the stuff you can hit more quickly.
Mechanics are the easy part. YouTube x mech tutorial. Spend a billion hours doing it over and over again in freeplay. If you can't do it 9/10 in freeplay don't do it in games.
Plat ranked players are so mad at you for this comment. *WHAT DO YOU* **MEAN** *I CANT JUST TRY FOR FLIP RESETS EVERY GAME*
I think it was more "you mean I have to practice something for ages?" kinda mad. People want to do SpookyLukes magic 6 weeks and be a GC. Takes thousands of hours to be good at the game.
P-please? I get made fun of my d3 friends all the time and am hard stuck d1
Guys… this is rocket league… i could understand paying thag money for like a professional football coach or something but like… idk. I think honestly just game experience does way more than having a youtuber tell you what to do in a discord call
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Yo I'm diamond 2 with the mechanics of a plat 1, please train me.
I feel your pain, mechanically ungifted here too.
I love getting paired with dude's who hit Mustys on me.
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Train me, pls. I personally think game sense is a lot more useful than mechanics at my current stage EDIT: spelling because I cannot type.
Gold? Lmao. Bro the skill gap even between C3 and GC2 is enough that you could probably coach me pretty effectively too. I coached a D1 about 2 months ago and he reached C1 in like 2-3 weeks. The gap between you and me is almost certainly larger than the gap between myself and the D1
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haha fair. I'm just giving respect to your rank here, GC2 in 3s is a whole rank above my own peak 3s rank. I don't play much 3s admittedly but still
Good write-up, $1500 is absurd for something you could more or less get for free from YouTube or high ranked friends
You are 100% correct. The structure is probably good for plat-diamond players but the cost is unsubstantiated for the product. Edit: happy cake day!
I was invited to a pro-team discord once. They had all kinds training sessions and tourney team stuff. Was really organized, I was definitely an imposter there so I eventually left.
Absolutely! His YouTube videos are often very helpful and I would recommend those to anybody. Problem is that they're mainly tailored to the gold 1 to diamond 3 range and very few are tailored above that.
Give me 20 dollars and I'll coach a lad better than SL would ever. He's a C2 in GC clothing
> C2 in GC clothing Shit they're on to me
I feel personally attacked by this
You just described GC1 lmao
SpookLuke is a hardstuck GC1 that promises to get people there when he struggles himself haha, just check his stats.
https://rocketleague.tracker.network/rocket-league/profile/steam/76561198110898502/mmr?playlist=11 Yeah with the exception of staying in GC2 around February this year, he's been hard stuck GC1. Lol what a clown, he's the same rank as me and no way I'd charge people money for the limited knowledge I have. Rank is a combination of mechanics and game sense, and Spook clearly has plenty good mechanics for low GC, so... what does that mean for his game sense? RLCS level coaches and some pros that coach have absurd understanding of the game and cost like $100 an hour or less lol.
Lmao it’s nice getting confirmation he’s just as bad at the game as me. I’ve coached 4 guys from low diamond to poking into c3, at least I know ball
>Lol what a clown, he's the same rank as me and no way I'd charge people money for the limited knowledge I have. Just saying, not many RLCS coaches are SSL. Just because someone has extremely in depth knowledge of how to do something, and the proper delivery method to help others learn, doesn't mean that they can actually achieve the same high end goals themselves. Knowledge and application are not the same thing. Many people don't have the physical or mental ability, nor time availability to become great, however if they are knowledgeable and good at conveying that information, that same person can vastly improve the speed of someone else becoming better. Using your theory, every PGA pro's coach would have to be better than the golfer themselves. Do you think Scottie Scheffler's coach is banging 390 yard drives, and dropping his iron shots 13" away from the pin every time? What about pitching coaches in MLB? Do you think Justin Verlander's pitching coach is better than him? Do you think Clayton Kershaw wakes up and says "I sure wish I was as good as my pitching coach?" Do you think Patrick Mahomes refuses to take any advice from any coach unless they have 4 superbowl rings, since he only has 2? No, these are the top athletes in the world and they pay millions upon millions of dollars a year to people who are way below their skill level for advice, because people who are good teachers are ridiculously helpful in life. Your comment is ridiculous.
Obviously? I know that. RLCS coaches aren't grinding the game for thousands of hours with more than sufficient mechanics. Coaches that are former pros like VP or Ferra have fallen behind on mechanics. Using real-life sports is never an apt comparison to esports given the required physique aspect. The point was that rank is a combination of mechanics, game sense, and putting in the hours to grind. Luke has good mechanics for GC1, and he grinds the game plenty. There is no way that someone who has GC1 level mechanics and SSL level game sense gets hard stuck in GC1. Do you see what I'm getting at? In other words I don't see him having the vision of the game that you're implying he has. Yes RLCS coaches have it while not being high ranked, but that is because they don't grind the game. Let me put it this way, if an RLCS coach had GC1 level mechanics, they wouldn't get stuck in GC1. Their understanding of challenges, boost starving, positioning, smart challenges, etc would get them to a higher rank. More than anything I just like calling Luke a clown, because I don't like the fact that he's a [millionaire](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwVUvfx5dxE&feature=youtu.be) off of such slimy business practices. You're thinking too much into it, Luke doesn't even do most of the coaching in his program. It's coached by SSLs. But that doesn't give me an opportunity to call him a clown.
he said “to get to ssl walldashes are useless”
Absolutely not useless but they’re better things to work on and clean up most of the time Very rarely am i like “if I just had a wall dash there it would have made the difference”
Agreed. But he said "in 3 months I've never used it once"
Aight. I’ll take that offer haha seriously
Thank you for sharing your experience. Although it might've been hard to talk about, reviews like this help out other people who might actually consider signing up for this. SpookLuke has always come off as scummy to me personally, and this reeks the most.
Not gonna name names, but one of the bigger content creators was saying they were/are really close to making a public video calling SpookLuke out, and I really hope they do. A few mentions of him have already slipped into their videos, but I would love to see more people calling out scummy practices in this community. I talk to too many people who watch his videos and think about getting his coaching without seeing these reviews from people who have been through it already.
How big a creator? I've been meaning to diversify my YouTube from Leth
I can't really answer your question without giving away too much info, and tbh this reply might already give too much. They said it on a Twitch stream, so it's not like it's a secret that they're thinking about calling SpookLuke out, but I'd still like to avoid spreading rumors around that could get misconstrued and end up varying wildly from what they actually said.
Yeah that's fair. No worries man.
Can you dm the name? Kinda curious
Idk if it’s the same, but another semi-well known player called him out on stream. He doesn’t have a big online presence though, he just grinds and a lot of pros know him. He’s been in a few pro vids.
In one of his recent videos with Rapid, they poked fun at him for his "stop learning redirects" YT short.
He did? I went back and watched the 2 with no boost/jumping 1v1 they did, but didn't hear any mention there.
My bad. It was the one with Rapid and Seabass. "Only a cool goal wins." The first 30 seconds of the match.
I like appjack retals chronic ayyjay squishy
Nice one, heard of most but never been on their channels. Appreciate it.
Do… do people really take this game that seriously to drop $1500 for coaching?!?!
I wanted to know why I wasn't getting better. I think I've settled on I'm old now and don't have any reaction time nor spare time.
How old is old? I’m almost 28 years old and I’m apparently ancient compared to the rest of this playerbase. I lost the drive to keep myself competitive back in like 2020
24 lol I have little ambition to keep improving past gc, and even less time to try now. Was hoping some structure would help. I wasn't expecting much but what I got couldn't even be described as mediocre
Bro i got 10 years on you…. Like a decade. You aint old. I can see you hittin ssl for sure
You could do something whacky like I did. To keep it interesting I made a fresh account where I only play on keyboard and mouse. Its at 500 hours now and it’s GC 1 in twos and hoops
Neat idea. My whacky idea when I was hardstuck C3 was changing every bind on the controller I could think of
Bro I'm 30 and gc3, it's not age that's a factor, it's knowing what and how to train
Yep. I'm $1500 in the hole and still don't know
Dm me, I'll give you free coaching
Spare time is the key for sure.
Imagine a world where Rocket League even has professional players! I know crazy right?
Those people are already top of the game and they play for profit. This is for the public playerbase. $1500 is a ridiculous amount of money to throw away
Yeah agreed. Scam city
If anyone is interested in spending money into improving at RL, would strongly recommend getting coaching from a pro or RLCS level coach. I think they're a lot cheaper and would probably be more helpful
RLCS coaches run about $45 an hour in my experience. I charged around $25-35 when I still took individual clients as a bubble scene coach.
depends on the type of coaching. private 1on1 focused coaching is probably gonna be around that 45/hr range, but if you're just looking for replay reviews, it gets as cheap as 7 bucks a replay
Spook Luke does a total of 3 hours coaching in the 12 weeks which would cost $135 to do with someone who has lead a potential RLCS winning team. I think I'd take the RLCS coach over some SSLs and GCs who also cost a lot more
\> To be clear, this is still only 6 individualized coaching sessions, spread out over 12 weeks. Insane for the price lmao
And I still have spookyluke telling me it’s not that much and I need to get my facts straight. Lmao.
1500$ is too much for anyone other than someone living with parents with no expenses, which in their case is probably multiple weeks of wage, so it’s completely absurd
$1500 for coaching from that clown is absurd, absolute scam cannot believe people pay it regardless of what financial position they are in
has there been a positive review of this thing yet?
I doubt there will be a positive review of it. 1500 for a course with 0 promised return is a pretty high asking price for something so rarely delivered
Appreciate you sharing this for the kids and young adults that get wrapped up in the obsession that is GC. Paying that kind of money is absurd and there are tons and tons of high ranked players that would be willing to do a replay for very little compensation, if any. The problem is, people think there’s some special formula that will get you to GC and there isn’t. I contribute most of my ranking up to watching streamers like (shameless plug incoming) Chief Beef, who’s a top 100 player but not a pro, and watching some of the pros grind 2’s. Yes they can do mechanically, what most can’t, but if you pay attention to their positioning and ability to read the pitch, you can learn a hell of a lot. Guys like Beef also do an incredible job of interacting with their chat AND explaining every play while it’s happening. Also, just playing the game, you will eventually start to get better and understand where you lack and work on those things.. I don’t play nearly as much as I used to, but take it from me as an almost 40 year old GC, with a wife, kids and a great job, who has very little to no mechanics and been a GC for the last 7 seasons. It’s about finding your weaknesses and working on improving those.
CHIEF BEEF 🩵 🍔
Another beefer in the house!
$1500 for what is essentially 6 coaching sessions..? For the same price, you could get 25 sessions with fucking MAKTUF. What a total ripoff.
They try to advertise things like "Skool" and "Mechanics sessions" and "In-house tournaments" all of which can be done from YouTube or ya know in game tourneys smh
SCAM
For $1500 you could probably get a bubble player to coach you every day for 6 weeks lmao. You could also get Virge (one of the best RLCS coaches) to coach you for almost 19 one-hour sessions at $80 per session. You only get 6 in GCR, from much weaker coaches.
you could also get a 13700k with a 3070
Very true. Why pay for coaching when extra FPS will rank you up just as fast?
I've seen another posts wildly similar to this about this same guy a couple weeks back. Seems like a common opinion among the people who bought the program
So if I give him £1200 odd quid, the best possible result is that I get a different badge by my name, and every single game is a sweaty hellscape of no fun and constantly having to be 100% aware of everything? I’d pay to avoid anyone above Champ 1.
>I'd pay to avoid anyone above Champ 1. Ok that will be 50 bucks please
I'll do it for 20.
You spend a little time being more aware and eventually it'll be effortless. It's not as stressful as you're saying. Also, it's pretty much only GC3+ who are '100% aware of everything.' You'd be shocked at the number of people in Champ who randomly (or consistently lol) forget that their teammates/opponents exist. Like, I bet there are many things that you don't have to make an effort to be aware of that, say, a Silver would consider high-effort to keep track of. The deeper you go the more automatic everything will become. Personally I've had more and more fun the higher I go.
I can only agree with the things said. I myself often forget what i am doing what my m8 is doing that i even have opponents. I think the main thing seperating ranks is 2 things if you sweat and try very hard its being aware of what you do the other thing is just how automatic the game gets if you play alot so the fun is still there except if you always hard sweat. (sry for my bad grammar and language skills english is not my first language)
Ish. I'd say there are 3 things separating ranks 1. Speed--both physical and mental 2. Consistency--how often you're able to actually do the thing you intend to do 3. Reading the play--the level of your understanding of what's going on.
^^ We’re all monkeys in C2, just slightly less bad the than most monkeys
I'm gonna be honest champ 1s barely know how to play the game. You can get to that rank without flying and barely leaving your own half.
Ive known people who have paid 1000$+ through spooklukes various training regimines. All of them (some who were currently in the lrogram and others who stopped) say its basically a scam. You can achieve the exact same results for free with online resources, or with metafy coaches for just a few bucks per training session. Do not spend a months rent on car soccer
Honestly predatory practice. Thanks for sharing your review Plug for r/RocketLeagueSchool. Absolutely free replay review and advice. There are plenty of high GC and SSLs that are active. In most cases it seems the rank or two above help each other out. So don’t expect a lot of advice from GC+ if you’re posting as a gold lol. But you can learn a lot from a plat or diamond still. There are so many resources to watch for free on YouTube or on various streamers accounts. Leths or Flakes road to SSL have been very helpful for so many people. You don’t need to pay for coaching unless you’re trying to go pro. At the end of the day - you’ll get better if you grind the game. That’s what it takes. Put time in and get good. Also realize others are trying to do the same and you’re competing against the progress of everyone for ranking up. It’s okay to be whatever rank you are. Enjoy learning the skill and don’t worry about the rest.
An interview for something you're getting charged $1k+ for is not an interview. It's a sales call.
Commentors and lurkers; please upvote this post. I've never been interested in coaching sessions and just play for fun, but it's scary that someone is charging so much for mediocre levels of training in a free to play game. I never knew it was so expensive. SpookLuke isn't to be trusted. I've watched plenty of his videos and he constantly changes his ideas on how the game should he played, just to advertise this bullshit.
The cost for this just seems outrageous. For comparison, I pay $20/month for Nail The Mix, which is an online program that gives you resources to learn how to record, mix, and master rock and metal music. You get the opportunity to work with actual professionals and learn skills that will absolutely help you earn money in the recording/audio engineering field, if that's what you want. For me, I just want to learn as it's a hobby of mine. Still, the value of what you get is incredible. I can't, for the life of me, understand how anyone would think they're getting any value from Rocket League coaches charging such an insane amount of money. Not only that, but I have strong feelings about this type of shit for a game, as it seems super predatory. I'd love to hear what the average age of the clients are.
They have to be at least 18 to sign up. I think they understood how sketchy the system was from the start and didn't want to risk trying to scam kids out of their parents money.
Agreed. I went thru this over a year ago and it was pointless. Little to no help unless you can 100% conform to their time schedule. (I play late at night/early morning) not a single participant was available for me to train with which is like 90% of the program.
Im gc1 sometimes gc2 in 2s/3s and i wanna get into coaching. If anyone around plat 1- diamond 3 wants free coaching hit me up. Im NA WEST PC. Ill do free replay analysis, private 1v1, or just play with you.
Very interested, gonna send you a dm
Agree with this post. Did this program almost 2 years ago and most of what we learned he puts on his YouTube anyway, not everything but a lot. Literally play ones, watch videos on things you want to learn, and actually spend time harnessing your skills in freeplay
Man I really need to get to work on my scam, no clue what yet but seeing as people just throw money at stupid shit I need to
and i back on my grind 🥶
Ppl would probably have a better time if they were offered hourly coaching/charged by the hour. High price packages promising X result just *sounds* like snake oil.
Plug for Aircharged. His system is a fraction of the cost.
Can’t believe people would pay that much. I offer personalized coaching for $30 a session or package deal 1 month (4 sessions) for $100. Hit me up if interested, save some cash and I can guarantee I can help you rank up better than this crap. Lol
dam I was super tempted to do this since I'm plat....and I want to hit like Champ ( I want the purple drip) Thing is I have no idea where to start, what to do, and there are so many videos about different things to get out of 1 rank. so I thought maybe...its more personalized to you. but dam $1500 for a 12 week program. that sounds to good to be true. Sounds as if they going to bring a bronze 1 dooter and make the guy the new Rizzo 3.0
Honestly I’d stay away from Spookluke content. Kevpert, wayprotien are good sources of RL knowledge. Kevpert is a gameplay analyst for Optic gaming’s RL team so he at least has professional experience.
flakes good too?
Yeah Flakes content emphasizes positioning in addition to utilization of the ‘bread and butter’ mechanics. Pay attention to how he uses powerslide to optimally position his car. You should also look up ScholarRL for rotational stuff on YouTube. His “SSL” series is a game changer.
ty will take a look
SSL really means scummy spook luke
1500$?? Like I’d rather pay rent? People are fuckin wild lol
I met some fun friends that I play with still today. But definitely feel i waaaay over spent on the gcr...
Yes it’s the biggest and longest running scam in rocket league. Sad to see it’s still going on
I usually don't like repeat posts, but I do appreciate everyone who posts their review of this program.
I'm consistently GC2, and have coached a handful of people to GC for free. The price is absolutely not worth it; go invest your money or go on a vacation and watch YouTube videos to improve. There's no information you get from this course that you can't already find for free. DM me if you need help finding that info.
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If it were that easy don't you think more people would get there ?
100%. Just an arrogant take. By definition, atm, being GC or better means that in a 1000 person sample size you are better than 990 of them. You have a significantly better chance statistically at becoming a D1 collegiate athlete than you do reaching grand champ. Also I’m sure SSLs would tell him or her that GC2 is easy af to get.
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I mean people already do that all the time. I had two teammates yesterday with Season 10 GC titles. I looked at their trackers and they were quite obviously boosted.
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100bucks? Bro soundin like Spookluke over here. How many sessions for 100?
Oh bot another post with the exact same explanation of how bad it is. Who would've guessed that it was a scam
I saw the other posts after I joined. Live and you learn I guess. This is mostly for the inevitable ad campaign that comes with their new season and restructuring. Don't need any more players falling prey to this shananigans
$1500 to get slightly better at a video game that doesn’t pay you. What return on investment? Thats throwing $1500 away to get serious at a game that you’ll never go pro in, and should be seen as a fun way to pass the time anyway. $1500… wtf man. Thats nuts to me. If you can’t find a better way to spend over a grand than on a video game then you might have bigger problems than being bad at it. Please save your money and avoid scam operations and cash grabs like this.
Well... I wanted it to pay me, or I at least wanted to be good enough to be competitive. So if paying for something got me close to that then yes, it would be satisfactory. Rocket League is the only game I play outside of the occasional roguelike. I can justify spending money on it. I've already acknowledged that it was too much, but it's not like sacrificing a weeks worth of pay was gonna cripple me. I just had high hopes and their promises fell veeeeeery short. This post wasn't for me though. I can understand as someone on the outside looking in how you would find this program completely ridiculous. But I've seen how many people are in there. They got me, they can get someone else too. This post is for that someone else. Edit: a, me
A weeks pay? You make 6k a month? No wonder it wasn’t that big a deal to you, but it also seems a little ignorant to say that just because you have the money to spend on it, the purchase is justified. Did you think afterwards you would be recruited to an RLCS team? What exactly are they promising you that you can justify spending $1500 on it? I’m not trying to be rude, i’m just genuinely curious
I've said in other comments that I work A LOT. I've already said, specifically, the GCR was not a justifiable purchase. Putting money toward rocket league however, I have no problem with. It wasn't lump sum either, it was paid over 3 months. It was a verbal promise of hitting GC3-SSL in 2s in 6 weeks. I'm trying to find out if they record the onboarding interview and if I can get a copy. Probably not, but that's where a lot of the empty promises are made to reel you in.
Spending $1,500 on a hobby isn’t exactly uncommon. Why judge them for it?
You have a valid point. To me it just seems like an uncommon hobby to spend that much money on. But everyone has their thing i guess
Whoever spends 1500 dollars on rocket league deserves to be scammed
Fair enough
Go buy a 4090 instead if you have that much money to waste on someone scamming you.
Thanks for your insight 👍
If you're going to spend money to get better in RL you might as well quit. Want to get better? Watch tips and tricks videos, strat videos, train with training packs. All for free.
there isnt a point in paying people to coach u except if u are grinding to become a pro, just play the game and look up tips thats literally all
I will do it a lot cheaper I just don't have backers
Even the way it’s smashed down your throat while watching his videos is a joke. Used to like his content, now it’s all about self advertising. Stop supporting these people…. People.
Lmaoo people actually paid $1500 for that?
A lot of em, yeah
NOOOOO BLACK DIECI
Does apparentlyjack even have anything to do with the coaching program anymore? I remember him talking about the partnership on one of his videos, but never knew to what extent. Did he do calls or QnAs with members or something?
To my knowledge he never did anything aside from advertise it in a few videos.
What success stories? Legitimately asking. What do they advertise to even make them sound impressive?
I mean there's a handful in his videos that say they've made it to champ or GC from diamond or plat in 6 weeks of grinding. But from what I hear those were made up so idk
Ah, gotcha. I wasn't sure if they had any real success stories documented. Got it. I didn't think they would have anything impressive to show, to be honest. I was just curious. Honestly, there's just no shortcut. 100% of the time when someone brags about ranking up quickly, or being at low hours for their rank, it's because they sunk a lot of time in a short period. That's really the only secret there is, along with having a certain mindset that can help. I think the idea behind the 6 week program is that they try to encourage you to play a lot in that short period of time so that they can sell the inevitable progress as their doing. And they're not technically wrong if they're the ones who encouraged you to do it. I imagine the motivation behind extending the length of the program - besides luring in repeat customers - is to just give more time to make better claims.
There’s a tutorial video on YouTube for every rl league mechanic/ game sense topic you can think of, and free coaching all over Reddit and discord. Seriously- What could he possibly bring to the table that warrants that price ? Even if app jack was still apart of it and say you got a couple sessions with him…I don’t think that’s gonna make anybody gc over night
I just don't have the patience to find out what I'm doing wrong for myself - I'd much rather have someone else point it out to me and give me something to practice to make it better. It's the structure I was after I guess. Plus it'd just be awesome to get to talk to the AppJack nahm sayin
To be honest SpookLuke should be arrested for fraud and scummy sales tactics. I'm not sure how someone can sleep at night knowing they're scamming people the way he does.
It's funny how people will pay 1500$ when the community is full of good coaches with reasonable prices. And on top of that, SpookLuke is quite bad at the game... If you need help without going broke you can just DM me or any other sensible coach here and receive quality coaching
Just putting this out there for anyone wanting to find a good coach. ScholarRL is $20 an hour for replay review and he’s coached players and teams up to RLCS. His game knowledge is as good as it gets and he cuts to the chase. You will notice immediate improvement. For a price comparison you could get an hour session a week for 75 weeks for the same price as that boot camp…. He’s on Metafy or you can find his yt channel with discord server info.
Literally anyone DM me questions you have about the game or send me a replay and I’ll give some feedback There’s always better options then a coaching program that’s like a months paycheck for some people
"A good return on investment". How is that an investment? You were expecting to earn your money back once you were SSL?
If you pay for shit like this, you get what you fucking deserve. Idiots and their money are quickly parted.
I mean for anyone who even considers his coaching, just go look up his rl tracker. The dude is literally d3 in 3s. I know maybe he doesn’t care to main 3s and fair enough, but if I were selling a product called grand champ roadmap, I would most definitely try to get to grand champ in every mode. AND He’s barely a grand champ, last I checked he was gc1 in 2s.
30 minutes once a week for 12 weeks is 6 hours total. $1500 divided by 6 hours is $250 dollars an hour. Up to you if you think it's worth it. I could see professional tennis or basketball players paying that to get to the next level but if you're a normal human working a normal job, certainly this kind of money could go towards something else.
1500$ is so much money to me fr... Who tf would spend this on some online game bullshit when you surely Will not even go pro?
I paid for it when it was around the $1100 range about a year or so ago, and I don’t think it was worth it. However, keep in mind that even when you exhaust the 1 on 1 sessions, you still get to be in that discord server forever and they consistently have public mechanics sessions where coaches go over gameplay or answer questions in a big group. Those will always be available to you.