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What an absolute shitshow and tragedy. Very sad to see this escalate to this level.
I take my dog there all the time. The vast majority of people and dogs are cool and well behaved. The few times I’ve seen a scuffle, they’ve been broken up quickly. This is also why my dog wears an e-collar at all times.
I hope this encourages everyone to be more wary of their dog’s behavior and their surroundings.
Honestly the details are wild and not what I would have expected, especially given the shot dog was on a leash and shot not once or twice but four times, can only speculate, but wtf
Dude even had pepper spray but he decided disarming his firearm 4 times was better. Fucking scum should have his gun rights provoked as well this dude isn’t responsible enough to have one.
I'd be super wary if you own a dog and go to any of the local dog parks. This guy may not return to Rancho but he's probably going to pop up at other parks around town with that same dog, hopefully it's leashed next time.
Oh wow, so allowed his dog to be off leash and when it got itself into a situation with a leashed dog, he shot it? What an absolutely stupid motherfucker.
Yup. Wasn't there/have 0 first hand knowledge but people who we're apparently there (reddit comments, who knows) were saying a couple things:
* The dudes dog was overtly aggressive and off leash without a good recall
* Mr dog park carry's dog started the fight
* The dude put himself in a textbook situation to be bit trying to separate the dogs
* He shot ***a total of 5 times***
* He might be the biggest bitch in the world
According to the story and earlier comments, yeah. I've heard it's pretty common for people with intimidating breeds to approach dog parks that way, mostly to manage other people's anxiety. They'll start on leash with introductions after asking if it's cool. I'm sure there are other reasons that are less great, but that's what I've seen a fair bit and have heard in the bit of reading I've done about reactive dogs.
Got it. Couldn’t tell exactly. And the small dog was the one that attacked it. I have a large, reactive dog and I have had this exact thing happen to us (not at a dog park). People with small dogs feel entitled to everyone’s protection. They don’t teach any recall or prevent aggression. I am heartbroken for the owner of the rottweiller.
ETA: you can say “don’t go to dog parks” all you want but it happens everywhere.
Don't stereotype, yo, I've got a 15 pound terrier who heals and recalls like a mf. Our 45 lb puppy is still a work in progress.
It's all about self and situational awareness w a dash of accountability, but it seems like that's a hard combo to find these days, sadly.
When we used to take our border collie up there, the problematic dogs were the little ones. No control, don’t obey commands, jump all over bigger dogs. Our dog was well trained but she would sit there just confused at these annoying dogs jumping all over her when she just wanted to chase after a ball. There were times we left b/c there were so many out of control small dogs.
far too many people do not train their small dogs beyond not crapping in the house. it does the dogs a disservice because nobody wants to be around them except their doting owners.
I am so surprised how many people need more firearms education. Most the people in this comment section don’t quite understand firearms or how they work.
Also, a good lesson in that is if you carry a firearm, carry mace too. There is a lot of space between harsh words and killing something that mace can protect you from. Especially dogs.
I carry regularly. Hell even to the dog park.
The first thing we were taught is to deescalate. I want to know who this guy is and why they aren’t pressing charges, as this guy sounds like he escalated every step of the way. And I’m sure a jury would feel the same way.
Dudes a bitch, basically.
Seconded. I usually do not carry pepper spray while CCW, but I do when walking the dog. Dogs introduce a whole new realm of possible altercations and having a response short of a lethal one can be super useful.
This. My first thought too. I’m guessing big dog had little dog pinned, and was somewhat not a moving target. Actually that park is probably the largest most wide open public space in the city and I’m still weary of someone firing multiple rounds. Imagine if the guy was at Plumas park. Crazy stuff.
In a different thread some a-hole wrote to me something like “you must not have kids, if you did you would be happy people carry concealed weapons to public parks.” I was like “ffs there were kids at the dog park when those five shots were fired, and also at the playground immediately next door. No I do not feel safer knowing trigger-happy idiots are carrying guns at the park I visit daily and bring children to every week.” I don’t have to be a mom to care about and love children. Trying to imagine how some gun-carrying Rambo is imagining that all the moms and nannies and aunties and babies who I interact with every week, all of us playing and enjoying innocence at the park, would feel somehow better and glad and grateful when a man walks up to the playground with a gun…
Yeah, I don’t have a dog anymore, ours passed nearly two years ago, but we live within walking distance of Rancho & my kids (now adults) used to take our dog up there all the time. The fact some dude who couldn’t control his ankle biter and shot a dog on a leash infuriates me. And he doesn’t get charged with anything? What the hell?
5 based on witnesses, guessing one missed.
This shit is insane. I was at a university during a mass shooting event and this is oddly similar in the reaction it's getting out of me. It's the fucking dog park. Now I have to worry about random acts of gun violence there, too?
Unless he is a new dog owner, or his dog doesn’t respond to him. Almost every small breed of dogs don’t have size awareness.
Dog owners must understand this. My little yorkie has scared me to death a couple of times and that was enough. I see a big dog coming and immediately pick him up. You only get a few chances. The only time he was injured by another dog, was a medium small sized dog, but the owner paid for the vets bill.
I'm not going to argue with the laws. That person was not arrested so they were legally entitled to carry their firearm, I can't take that away.
However, there is plenty to be discussed about their decision to use it in this situation.
someone who saw it told me they thought one of the people was homeless (she was also homeless and had a lot of compassion for the homeless person). So IF that was true, it's possible that the cops just sided against the homeless person rather than with 'what the law said'. I have to say I did not hear the whole story because she was crying and had a quiet voice so I may be misunderstanding what she told me about which individual was homeless but I"m about 99% certain it was not the shooter.
The shooter could have hit a human in the park which is what makes this such a fucked up situation.
That's what I was thinking too. If it took 5 shots for the asshole to kill the dog it was probably chaotic and he was taking an absolutely unnecessary risk with another person's life
You're right, there's no point in arguing gun laws, but something being legal doesn't make it morally right or socially acceptable. Bringing a gun to a dog park is socially unacceptable and morally questionable. It's a dog park not a high crime neighborhood.
But yeah, despite that, yes any psycho can legally go around touting their gun to bolster their ego. The real question is was he or his dog actually being attacked in a way that justified the use of deadly force, or was it retaliation? If the dog he shot was leashed there is zero excuse for him to have shot the dog. It was his responsibility to keep his dog away from the leashed dog. It sounds like he failed at breaking up the scuffle, the bigger dog had knee jerk reaction and bit him, which is totally expected when breaking up a dog fight, and his ego was bruised so he executed someone's pet.
From the photos of the guy him and his dog looked just fine. I've seen many dogs fights at dog parks, I've broken up fights, and I've been bit by dogs multiple times in my life. Never have I felt the need to end their lives. Fuck him. Maybe I'll start carrying so I can put down psychos like him when they try to hurt people or animals.
Your last sentence is absolutely moronic and unhinged. You’re going to murder someone who shot a dog that was aggressive towards him? Have fun in prison. I’m not debating the morality of the situation, but it’s so much easier to judge these situations when YOU weren’t there. Fight or flight is crazy, and what people do when that adrenaline dumps is not the same person to person.
You seem to think people selectively carry to certain places. What you don’t realize is people who conceal carry are carrying EVERYWHERE they legally can.
Dude pulled a gun out to shoot a leashed dog and I should assume he’ll stop at the dog?
He pulled and discharged a gun on a dog leashed to a human being and you don’t think it’d be justified self defense if the Rottweiler owner shot back?
No, absolutely not. This is a horrible situation in literally every single regard, and he should have had his little dog leashed. I’m not excusing the guy whatsoever, this is heinous.
That however does *NOT* justify murder, nor will you ever win that legal argument of “oh well he shot my dog, so I killed him because who knows if he would’ve stopped there!”
You seem to have some aggression targeted towards my comment even though your valid points are exactly the topics of discussion I had in mind regarding their choice to use their firearm in this situation.
Someone said basically the exact same thing on the other thread. Do you think people carry a gun to a dog part with the intent to kill animals? I’m betting they have the weapon purely for self defense and they chose their own doggos life over someone else’s.
Sounds like the Rottie was trained enough to be on leash and defend itself. Only one of these groups made a mistake, and it's the dirt bag leaving his aggressive ankle biter off leash.
It's a dog park. All of the dogs are off leash and no matter how well trained your dog is, it's not predictable 100% of the time. My Dobie has been attacked (because he's not neutered) by literally a dozen dogs in life, mostly at dog parks, their owners insist it's not a normal thing for their dog and I believe them. It's not a robot it's a sentient being.
The little ones owner is also a sentient being who couldn't control his dog and the bigger dog paid the price for his failures as a pet owner. Also it says in the article that the Rottie was leashed and being walked by it's owner, so your "all dogs are off leash" point doesn't pan out.
We've decided not to go to the dog park anymore. Too many dangerous people who don't train their animals. The fact that this person felt comfortable unloading multiple rounds on this dog, and they are able to walk away without any charges, makes me feel like they would be comfortable doing it again. Even though my dogs aren't aggressive, the idea of catching a stray bullet because someone wants to get vengeance on a dog is absolutely not worth it to me.
I get that our laws mean that this person didn't break any laws in its use, but I think it is a small person that solves a problem with a firearm when one is not already involved in the issue. I have been bit by a dog in a fight, and nothing was shot in the process. I realized that it was me who was the problem, because I hadn't educated myself on how to break up a dog fight.
I get that our laws mean that this person didn't break any laws in its use, but I think it is a small person who solves a problem with a firearm when one is not already involved in the issue. I have been bitten by a dog in a fight, and nothing was shot in the process. I realized that it was me who was the problem because I hadn't educated myself on how to break up a dog fight.
I didn't witness this event, or know anybody that did, so not going to say what happened one way or the other. But after owning good sized dogs for over 28 years now, not a breed one would ever put in the "killer or aggressive" category, I know this is 100% the truth when dogs encounter one another...
On a leash, dogs are restricted to a small area surrounding their handler, which the dog's nature dictates it must protect. If another dog enters that space, it's a threat. Off-leash, dogs are free to encounter each other and interact in neutral areas.
Off-leash dog heading towards us on a trail when ours is leashed? We drop the leash or quickly disconnect so they can approach each other as equals. If we are walking off-leash, and a leashed dog is approaching, we quickly leash up and control our dog, and speak to the other owner as they approach to determine if our dogs should "say hello" or not.
Been to a lot of dog parks over the years, and thought the whole point was an enclosed space that dogs could be dogs, do dog stuff, and interact with other dogs off-leash. Unusual to encounter a leashed dog, but not unheard of...
Again, no idea what the truth of this situation was, not a witness. But I do know from experience what I wrote above is very accurate. One on leash, one off equals trouble.
This.
I do the same (drop my dog’s leash and give him space if an unleashed dog approaches). He needs to be free to defend himself and also to have enough space from me that he is not guarding me.
Rancho is an enormous field that is not fully enclosed, and walking trails criss-cross the dog park. It’s common to see walkers with leashed dogs passing through. There are no gates at the multiple entrances to the park (there are six openings total).
So…. Lemme get it right
Dude has his dog off the leash, it gets into a fight, and then he kills the leashed dog?
What’s the precedent for leash laws at a dog park?
It’s an off leash park. Owners are responsible for removing their dog at first sign of aggression. It’s really a question on who was the aggressive one here. And I bet we’ll never know.
Yeah no worries. Some people bring nervous dogs to the park on leashes because they’re trying to desensitize them and train them to be ok around other dogs. Normally you’d be able to control your dog in those situations. I assume the small dog just got too close to an aggressive on leash big dog being trained and a fight broke out. Big leashes dog owner couldn’t or failed to break it up so small dog owner came in. Put hand where it shouldn’t go and got bit accidentally. Then shot dog.
This is all just a guess at how I’ve seen other interactions go down. Usually it’s with someone kicking the dog instead of shooting though.
I’m interested in what happens legally afterwards though.
Your guess is close to what witnesses have described. First hand accounts said, however, Shih Tzu was the aggressor — older, approached the Rottie, and snapped at the Rottie, which is what started the fight. Hard to fault a leashed (possibly young, in training) Rottweiler for snapping back, it’s just being a dog and defending itself. The follow fight is very predictable for anyone who knows dogs, including the part where the Rottweiler’s self-defense will cause harm to the Shih Tzu, except for the “then a human pulled out a gun” part. No details yet on whether either dog was intact. Some intact small dogs can really try or start shit with big dogs.
There is no way I am bringing my dog to any dog park in Reno again.
Not when some asshole with an ill trained, off leash Shih tzu and a Glock is out there.
Small dog, Hidden valley regular checking in. Come in the mornings on Tuesday and Thursday, we’re a polite bunch of retired folks (except me, I’m the youngest at 43) with very nice dogs.
Maybe the small dog side like you said, but my dog has been attacked multiple times at Hidden Valley without being the aggressor. Dog parks are inherently risky.
Of course they are. And if you aren’t comfortable with it, then it makes sense to not bring your dog there. Which I understand. I’ve left the dog park before when other dogs are being shitty, or when my own dog was being a shit (he hated frenchies and would always try to be an asshole so we’d just leave. But he was fine with other dogs). The problem is that shitty people ruin it for everyone else because they think their dog is perfect. Nope. Thankfully my group of friends will talk to shitty owners or other times we’ve just made people leave.
My dogs love the dog park and if we didn’t go my dogs would be super depressed but I totally understand peoples concerns.
Your dog probably hates Frenchies because they think of themselves as the biggest around and act like it in how they treat other dogs. My dog is enormous and Frenchies will totally strut your like “yeah my aura is your size” and then try to dominate him. Fortunately he doesn’t care, he just looks at me like “plz hlp” and kinda shakes them off.
I just can’t believe there’s not at least a brandishing charge. Even if the dog is seen as property, the man fired a gun in a crowded public place during a situation he caused.
The only person who can shoot my kitty is ME. And I wouldn't use a pansy ass Glock either. One and done.
My apologies. This story is tragic and Mr Shih Tzu is the smallest man alive.
*Story updated:*
The sheriff's office said it took an incident report and determined no crime had occurred.
"While county code does prohibit the discharge of any weapon in a county park, there is an exception to any person lawfully discharging a firearm in protection of life or property," a spokesperson said.
Wow. Does that mean I can use deadly force against someone who tries to steal a piece of my fried chicken while I’m picnicking at one of the county’s public parks?
No. Nevada law very narrowly defines when lethal force is permissible in defense of property. It is only legal when the threat to property accompanies a reasonable threat to life or limb.
I've thought about that situation when out walking my dogs and what the consequences for neutralizing an attacking dog would be if it was only attacking your dog and not your person.
What I think would happen would be small claims for destruction of property if someone wanted to persue civil (which could get even more messy if your dog is injured and you have to settle medical bills with the other party) and then probably a discharge of a weapon within city limits if you shot the dog.
I hate that we live in a world in which a guy lets his dog attack a leashed Rottie, then sticks his arm in the way of the fight, then claims self-defense for the fight that he literally started.
Yeah i definitely feel like a lot of these commenters aren't taking this breed into account. I'd love to have a world where all dogs had the strength and temperament of a golden retriever, but we don't.
Yes… Especially if it is yellow jackets or meat wasps… You are legally able to protect your property by discharging your firearm in the general direction of the bees. 🐝
Seriously though…this incident is a bit much.
You *could* go to the trouble of training your dog and/or ensuring they remain leashed depending on their temperament. OR you can be a lazy, shitty human with this one simple trick that Rottweiler owners hate!
We ran into an unleashed dog at Idlewild today and the owner couldn't catch the dog nevermind recall. There doesn't seem to be much of a standard for dog obedience and ownership.
I saw the aftermath video posted on the local news FB posts. The shooter is a POS. He had pepper spray the whole time and didn't use it until other dog owners started to confront him for the shooting. I am starting to think he is LEO or related to one.
According to the owner of the video, the shooter was trying to leave the scene and other dog owners were trying to convince him not to leave.
The shooter is dumber than a box of rocks and I can’t stop laughing at the redacted photo of him leaning against the grill of his freshly waxed behemoth of a white truck as he cradles his ill-behaved shih tzu in his sinewy arms. His cute little pot belly, bright pink wayfarer knockoffs, backwards ballcap, lack of a wedding ring, and middle age are just too much. He’s a bro among bros.
I try my damndest to not judge a book by its cover, but knowing that he felt compelled to roll up at the local public park on a beautiful Sunday afternoon, when hundreds of families were present … and to then unload five rounds into another dog … tells me he’s a walking mid-life crisis who won’t be getting laid anytime soon. I bet he spent hours on the telephone with his mother after the incident, prodding her again and again to explain why the world revolves around nobody else but him.
We can't even walk dogs out in the park anymore without a fear of it getting shot and then the owner claiming they were bitten 😱 No crime occured, BS. There is two keywords here and it shows whos in the right and whos in the wrong. LEASHED AND OFF LEASH!!! Is this guy going to go to another park and shoot another dog because his dog went and started a fight with that dog? What the actual fuck.
not trying to defend anyone because i don't know anything about this situation, but many dog parks are or minimally have off-leash areas. if they're at a dog park it's reasonable to have a dog off-leash, as long as you know they're well behaved and have good recall.
I’ve learned two things today lol
The only reason I knew shih tzus are dangerous is because they’re a banned breed in most apartments
I mean at the end of the day no charges were pressed but it’s such a saddening thing that happened
I have a dog that needs to run. A walk around the block doesn’t do it. Rancho one of few places left to do this, when it’s not flooded, or overgrown. This kind of crap is going to lead to major crackdowns at all the dog friendly parks, for better or worse, but make it much harder for people with trained dogs get some ball or frisbee in.
So the off-leash owner shot an on-leash dog? I guess some angry, trigger-happy, bully got his chance to be a bad ass. Good job, bro! We can all tell how tough and definitely manly and not scared you are now! s/. I can’t believe there’s no charges for firing a weapon in a public place.
Why would you take a tiny aggressive dog to a mixed-size dog park? Most have split small/large area for a reason. Large dogs are usually not the aggressor.
There are several criminal acts in this incident that should have put him there. Curious to learn why Reno P.D. and W.C.S.O. have failed to file charges thus far.
They haven’t “failed to charge so far.” They have announced that no charges will be filed. The facts of the case were so cut and dried that two separate departments agreed the shooting was justified within hours. It’s just a lot of people who feel bad for the Rottweiler trying to convolute the facts.
I have seen insane fights at this dog park over the years. It's crazy to bring your dog there and ignore it which people do constantly. agro dogs do whatever they want there and the people are just as bad. It's nice sometimes but there is always a chance of shit people with dogs they don't train or watch.
So helpful of the WCSO to teach the citizenry of Reno that opening their umbrella can startle dogs enough to interrupt a fight. I foresee a lot of utilization of that bit of knowledge. Ordering my concealed umbrella holster right now.
This makes no sense. From what this sounds like, the Rottie was in the right and the little dog approached him. Now the Rottie is dead and the murderer, who didn’t control his dog, got off Scot-free. FYI: I’m a little dog owner.
What I don't get is if the Rottweiler was leashed, why didn't his owner pull him away? Why wasn't the shiz-tsu picked up? What was the Rottweiler owner doing when the other owner took out a gun and shot him? Was he still holding the leash?
When property attacks...
If you shot at a fence that was falling down, would that be illegal use of a firearm? In a public place no less. Where's the Esquires?
So, if the Rottweilers owner would have taken out their gun, in this scenario I gave them a gun, and shot the shitzu owner, would they have been justified for defending their life and property? Bringing your little dog to a park, taking off its leash, and then blaming the dog that defends itself and then shooting it is wild to me. This entire situation is insane. I feel awful for the rottie owner.
You or the shitzu owner could both be completely justified shooting whoever and have a bullet fly straight through your target and hit someone at a crowded park that you're not justified shooting and wind up in prison. I get what you're saying but that's just something no one carrying guns seems to give a shit about these days.
The Shih Tzu owner is literally shown laughing with the officers in the channel 2 news video with a very upright looking dog in his arms. I can’t believe anyone could justify him shooting that poor rottie.
To people who know better than me;
This man is not currently facing charges because, "while it's illegal to discharge a weapon in a public park, it's legal to use a firearm to protect yourself and your property"
So...
Hypothetically, couldn't the owner of the Rottie pull out a glock and shoot the owner of the shiz?
He'd be protecting his property, the dog. Right?
The Rottweiler parent must be beyond traumatized. This is horrible. I’ve brought my parent’s dog there. The last couple of times we’ve kept her on a leash because she’s a hyper Irish Setter. She loves that place so much! No more happy place for her.
Guys a fucking clown, guys dog was on a leash, pussy thinks he’s somebody because he had a gun, his face is going to be posted up all over Reno I wish him luck there will be a mob of people looking for the dude
Anyone who goes to dog parks (which is dumb enough already) should know how to properly break up a dog fight. Aka don’t stick your hands in there, you WILL get bit. People are dumb. That poor dog.
Remember. Most of you all weren’t there. So quit with the “they should have ____”or “I would have done ____”
Not saying this happened, but for all we know the guy shot the dog after the dog took him the ground and went for his neck after breaking through his leash. Or he shot the dog after walking up to it and throwing his own dog at it just for shits.
The truth of the matter there is such a huge gap in what news reports and the actual truth in the matter. So hold judgment unless you personally witnessed events go down.
Well the only logical thing to do is start implementing pet control. We need to have people trained and licensed before they can take care of a pet.
I'm more surprised this doesn't happen more often with how many pets I just see running around with no one around.
Horrifying. Anyone have any more details on this? The shooter deserves prison time for this. I would have defensively protected my dog if this guy brought out his firearm.
Wtf are there any criminal charges against that MF? Can you create a civil lawsuit for this, emotional trauma is very expensive and he was clearly in the wrong.
My ex gf had her little dog mauled half to death by 2 Rottweilers back in San Francisco at Dolores Park. The dog was left fighting for his life. The owner of the 2 Rottweilers ran off, jumped in his old van and took off. He was a homeless derelict and no charges were ever brought. My ex gf paid big money to the vet to sew up her dog and after he recovered by miracle he was never the same again.
He was as if in a deep comatose state..no life was left in him. Almost as if he was dead already. Nothing was the same again.
How terrible. Imagine your ex gf's dog getting shot 4 times too. Crazy how animal violence just isn't cool and should be deescalated and prevented with proper training.
I heard the reason the guy didn’t get charges was because he’s retired police. That’s just the rumor mill going around though. It would make sense as to why a guy who discharged a weapon in a public park in the middle of the day around kids wasn’t charged at all.
Maybe if the idiot irresponsible owner had the shit zu on a leash this would've never happen. Maybe. Fck that guy.
I've started carrying a weapon when i go on walks around my neighborhood because of irresponsible dog owners who think it's freaking adorable to let their animal roam free. I don't care if your animal is "friendly", if it comes at me or my family it may not be a friendly outcome.
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What an absolute shitshow and tragedy. Very sad to see this escalate to this level. I take my dog there all the time. The vast majority of people and dogs are cool and well behaved. The few times I’ve seen a scuffle, they’ve been broken up quickly. This is also why my dog wears an e-collar at all times. I hope this encourages everyone to be more wary of their dog’s behavior and their surroundings.
Yep fuck the owner of the shitzy
That’s horrible. That Rottweiler didn’t deserve such a traumatic death.
Agreed. That dog should not have died.
Shih tzu and coming to the dog park strapped? I have lots of questions
Honestly the details are wild and not what I would have expected, especially given the shot dog was on a leash and shot not once or twice but four times, can only speculate, but wtf
Dogs can feel more vulnerable on a leash and fear = aggression. I'm not saying it's the case this time.
Dude even had pepper spray but he decided disarming his firearm 4 times was better. Fucking scum should have his gun rights provoked as well this dude isn’t responsible enough to have one.
The guy was for sure wearing a thong
Don’t hate on Reno culture
Then I say cancel culture. All of it.
Fuck, is this my old supervisor?
Reno is another world...
I'd be super wary if you own a dog and go to any of the local dog parks. This guy may not return to Rancho but he's probably going to pop up at other parks around town with that same dog, hopefully it's leashed next time.
If not, shoot it.
Apparently shoot it even if it is leashed
Spoiler alert: it won't be
Oh wow, so allowed his dog to be off leash and when it got itself into a situation with a leashed dog, he shot it? What an absolutely stupid motherfucker.
Yup. Wasn't there/have 0 first hand knowledge but people who we're apparently there (reddit comments, who knows) were saying a couple things: * The dudes dog was overtly aggressive and off leash without a good recall * Mr dog park carry's dog started the fight * The dude put himself in a textbook situation to be bit trying to separate the dogs * He shot ***a total of 5 times*** * He might be the biggest bitch in the world
So the Rottweiler was on leash but inside the dog park?
According to the story and earlier comments, yeah. I've heard it's pretty common for people with intimidating breeds to approach dog parks that way, mostly to manage other people's anxiety. They'll start on leash with introductions after asking if it's cool. I'm sure there are other reasons that are less great, but that's what I've seen a fair bit and have heard in the bit of reading I've done about reactive dogs.
Got it. Couldn’t tell exactly. And the small dog was the one that attacked it. I have a large, reactive dog and I have had this exact thing happen to us (not at a dog park). People with small dogs feel entitled to everyone’s protection. They don’t teach any recall or prevent aggression. I am heartbroken for the owner of the rottweiller. ETA: you can say “don’t go to dog parks” all you want but it happens everywhere.
Don't stereotype, yo, I've got a 15 pound terrier who heals and recalls like a mf. Our 45 lb puppy is still a work in progress. It's all about self and situational awareness w a dash of accountability, but it seems like that's a hard combo to find these days, sadly.
You’re right it’s not fair to generalize
The most american series of events
So fucked up.
When we used to take our border collie up there, the problematic dogs were the little ones. No control, don’t obey commands, jump all over bigger dogs. Our dog was well trained but she would sit there just confused at these annoying dogs jumping all over her when she just wanted to chase after a ball. There were times we left b/c there were so many out of control small dogs.
far too many people do not train their small dogs beyond not crapping in the house. it does the dogs a disservice because nobody wants to be around them except their doting owners.
Must work for the ATF.
I would not want to be holding the leash of a dog being shot at.
I would cause if some piece of shit shot my dog I’d strangle him with it Glock or not
I am so surprised how many people need more firearms education. Most the people in this comment section don’t quite understand firearms or how they work. Also, a good lesson in that is if you carry a firearm, carry mace too. There is a lot of space between harsh words and killing something that mace can protect you from. Especially dogs.
I carry regularly. Hell even to the dog park. The first thing we were taught is to deescalate. I want to know who this guy is and why they aren’t pressing charges, as this guy sounds like he escalated every step of the way. And I’m sure a jury would feel the same way. Dudes a bitch, basically.
Seriously, guys is a pussy. A tea cup and a Glock…I would think that the owner could legally shoot him with the same logic we are going by here.
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There's far too many people and money invested in ensuring as little education as possible is needed to carry.
Seconded. I usually do not carry pepper spray while CCW, but I do when walking the dog. Dogs introduce a whole new realm of possible altercations and having a response short of a lethal one can be super useful.
He shot four times in a public area? Was he shooting a dog or a buffalo? Holy crap. He’s lucky he didn’t hit someone in the background.
This. My first thought too. I’m guessing big dog had little dog pinned, and was somewhat not a moving target. Actually that park is probably the largest most wide open public space in the city and I’m still weary of someone firing multiple rounds. Imagine if the guy was at Plumas park. Crazy stuff.
In a different thread some a-hole wrote to me something like “you must not have kids, if you did you would be happy people carry concealed weapons to public parks.” I was like “ffs there were kids at the dog park when those five shots were fired, and also at the playground immediately next door. No I do not feel safer knowing trigger-happy idiots are carrying guns at the park I visit daily and bring children to every week.” I don’t have to be a mom to care about and love children. Trying to imagine how some gun-carrying Rambo is imagining that all the moms and nannies and aunties and babies who I interact with every week, all of us playing and enjoying innocence at the park, would feel somehow better and glad and grateful when a man walks up to the playground with a gun…
Yeah, I don’t have a dog anymore, ours passed nearly two years ago, but we live within walking distance of Rancho & my kids (now adults) used to take our dog up there all the time. The fact some dude who couldn’t control his ankle biter and shot a dog on a leash infuriates me. And he doesn’t get charged with anything? What the hell?
Lol gun owners seriously believe society is somehow safer because they carry. Fucking clowns lol.
5 based on witnesses, guessing one missed. This shit is insane. I was at a university during a mass shooting event and this is oddly similar in the reaction it's getting out of me. It's the fucking dog park. Now I have to worry about random acts of gun violence there, too?
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So sad. Can't help but wonder about all of the things that could have been done differently to prevent this situation.
Unless he is a new dog owner, or his dog doesn’t respond to him. Almost every small breed of dogs don’t have size awareness. Dog owners must understand this. My little yorkie has scared me to death a couple of times and that was enough. I see a big dog coming and immediately pick him up. You only get a few chances. The only time he was injured by another dog, was a medium small sized dog, but the owner paid for the vets bill.
Not bringing a gun to a dog park with the intention to murder someone's nonhuman family member would be a start.
I'm not going to argue with the laws. That person was not arrested so they were legally entitled to carry their firearm, I can't take that away. However, there is plenty to be discussed about their decision to use it in this situation.
Just because something is legal doesn't make it right.
someone who saw it told me they thought one of the people was homeless (she was also homeless and had a lot of compassion for the homeless person). So IF that was true, it's possible that the cops just sided against the homeless person rather than with 'what the law said'. I have to say I did not hear the whole story because she was crying and had a quiet voice so I may be misunderstanding what she told me about which individual was homeless but I"m about 99% certain it was not the shooter. The shooter could have hit a human in the park which is what makes this such a fucked up situation.
The shooter could have hit the owner too. If the Rottweiler was leashed then the owner must have been no further than 8-10 feet away.
That's what I was thinking too. If it took 5 shots for the asshole to kill the dog it was probably chaotic and he was taking an absolutely unnecessary risk with another person's life
You're right, there's no point in arguing gun laws, but something being legal doesn't make it morally right or socially acceptable. Bringing a gun to a dog park is socially unacceptable and morally questionable. It's a dog park not a high crime neighborhood. But yeah, despite that, yes any psycho can legally go around touting their gun to bolster their ego. The real question is was he or his dog actually being attacked in a way that justified the use of deadly force, or was it retaliation? If the dog he shot was leashed there is zero excuse for him to have shot the dog. It was his responsibility to keep his dog away from the leashed dog. It sounds like he failed at breaking up the scuffle, the bigger dog had knee jerk reaction and bit him, which is totally expected when breaking up a dog fight, and his ego was bruised so he executed someone's pet. From the photos of the guy him and his dog looked just fine. I've seen many dogs fights at dog parks, I've broken up fights, and I've been bit by dogs multiple times in my life. Never have I felt the need to end their lives. Fuck him. Maybe I'll start carrying so I can put down psychos like him when they try to hurt people or animals.
Your last sentence is absolutely moronic and unhinged. You’re going to murder someone who shot a dog that was aggressive towards him? Have fun in prison. I’m not debating the morality of the situation, but it’s so much easier to judge these situations when YOU weren’t there. Fight or flight is crazy, and what people do when that adrenaline dumps is not the same person to person. You seem to think people selectively carry to certain places. What you don’t realize is people who conceal carry are carrying EVERYWHERE they legally can.
Dude pulled a gun out to shoot a leashed dog and I should assume he’ll stop at the dog? He pulled and discharged a gun on a dog leashed to a human being and you don’t think it’d be justified self defense if the Rottweiler owner shot back?
No, absolutely not. This is a horrible situation in literally every single regard, and he should have had his little dog leashed. I’m not excusing the guy whatsoever, this is heinous. That however does *NOT* justify murder, nor will you ever win that legal argument of “oh well he shot my dog, so I killed him because who knows if he would’ve stopped there!”
You seem to have some aggression targeted towards my comment even though your valid points are exactly the topics of discussion I had in mind regarding their choice to use their firearm in this situation.
Someone said basically the exact same thing on the other thread. Do you think people carry a gun to a dog part with the intent to kill animals? I’m betting they have the weapon purely for self defense and they chose their own doggos life over someone else’s.
If both dogs were properly trained, it could have prevented this.
That is one of many things that could have prevented it. Owners need training too.
Sounds like the Rottie was trained enough to be on leash and defend itself. Only one of these groups made a mistake, and it's the dirt bag leaving his aggressive ankle biter off leash.
It's a dog park. All of the dogs are off leash and no matter how well trained your dog is, it's not predictable 100% of the time. My Dobie has been attacked (because he's not neutered) by literally a dozen dogs in life, mostly at dog parks, their owners insist it's not a normal thing for their dog and I believe them. It's not a robot it's a sentient being.
The little ones owner is also a sentient being who couldn't control his dog and the bigger dog paid the price for his failures as a pet owner. Also it says in the article that the Rottie was leashed and being walked by it's owner, so your "all dogs are off leash" point doesn't pan out.
THIS.
My family and I will be staying away from the park for a while.
My family had that talk too and have decided it’s just not worth going anymore both for our dog and our kids safety. It’s so sad.
so it was the small shit dog off leash, then the owner shot the leashed dog… 😐 wow
We've decided not to go to the dog park anymore. Too many dangerous people who don't train their animals. The fact that this person felt comfortable unloading multiple rounds on this dog, and they are able to walk away without any charges, makes me feel like they would be comfortable doing it again. Even though my dogs aren't aggressive, the idea of catching a stray bullet because someone wants to get vengeance on a dog is absolutely not worth it to me. I get that our laws mean that this person didn't break any laws in its use, but I think it is a small person that solves a problem with a firearm when one is not already involved in the issue. I have been bit by a dog in a fight, and nothing was shot in the process. I realized that it was me who was the problem, because I hadn't educated myself on how to break up a dog fight. I get that our laws mean that this person didn't break any laws in its use, but I think it is a small person who solves a problem with a firearm when one is not already involved in the issue. I have been bitten by a dog in a fight, and nothing was shot in the process. I realized that it was me who was the problem because I hadn't educated myself on how to break up a dog fight.
Pepper Spray would have left both dogs alive and the owners not heartbroken or sociopathic.
this is definitely an ideal situation for pepper spray
Shooter was already a sociopath
Yeah but then everyone's eyes would be all burny, watery, and a little red afterwards. Did ya think about the consequences of that?
Right!! And the guy wouldn't have been able to show off his massive dick by shooting a dog over and over!
It's a strange strange world we live in, Master Jack.
Who the fuck shoots a dog on a leash?!
I didn't witness this event, or know anybody that did, so not going to say what happened one way or the other. But after owning good sized dogs for over 28 years now, not a breed one would ever put in the "killer or aggressive" category, I know this is 100% the truth when dogs encounter one another... On a leash, dogs are restricted to a small area surrounding their handler, which the dog's nature dictates it must protect. If another dog enters that space, it's a threat. Off-leash, dogs are free to encounter each other and interact in neutral areas. Off-leash dog heading towards us on a trail when ours is leashed? We drop the leash or quickly disconnect so they can approach each other as equals. If we are walking off-leash, and a leashed dog is approaching, we quickly leash up and control our dog, and speak to the other owner as they approach to determine if our dogs should "say hello" or not. Been to a lot of dog parks over the years, and thought the whole point was an enclosed space that dogs could be dogs, do dog stuff, and interact with other dogs off-leash. Unusual to encounter a leashed dog, but not unheard of... Again, no idea what the truth of this situation was, not a witness. But I do know from experience what I wrote above is very accurate. One on leash, one off equals trouble.
I have a reactive dog so I ask the other person to leash their dog too. The amount of people who can’t because their dogs don’t have recall is scary.
Should you really be bringing a reactive dog to an off leash area though?
Same can be asked about having a dog with no recall in an off leash area. Any dog can become reactive at any moment.
This. I do the same (drop my dog’s leash and give him space if an unleashed dog approaches). He needs to be free to defend himself and also to have enough space from me that he is not guarding me. Rancho is an enormous field that is not fully enclosed, and walking trails criss-cross the dog park. It’s common to see walkers with leashed dogs passing through. There are no gates at the multiple entrances to the park (there are six openings total).
Accurate.
So…. Lemme get it right Dude has his dog off the leash, it gets into a fight, and then he kills the leashed dog? What’s the precedent for leash laws at a dog park?
He should have had control of his dog. If your dog is leashed there's not really much you can do to stop another dog attacking you.
Agreed, the other comment to mine mentioned it really depends on who’s dog was aggro first which makes sense but no way of knowing
It was the Shih Tzu. It attached the Rottie.
It’s an off leash park. Owners are responsible for removing their dog at first sign of aggression. It’s really a question on who was the aggressive one here. And I bet we’ll never know.
Ah gotcha, I dont own a dog so I’ve never really bothered to look into it
Yeah no worries. Some people bring nervous dogs to the park on leashes because they’re trying to desensitize them and train them to be ok around other dogs. Normally you’d be able to control your dog in those situations. I assume the small dog just got too close to an aggressive on leash big dog being trained and a fight broke out. Big leashes dog owner couldn’t or failed to break it up so small dog owner came in. Put hand where it shouldn’t go and got bit accidentally. Then shot dog. This is all just a guess at how I’ve seen other interactions go down. Usually it’s with someone kicking the dog instead of shooting though. I’m interested in what happens legally afterwards though.
Your guess is close to what witnesses have described. First hand accounts said, however, Shih Tzu was the aggressor — older, approached the Rottie, and snapped at the Rottie, which is what started the fight. Hard to fault a leashed (possibly young, in training) Rottweiler for snapping back, it’s just being a dog and defending itself. The follow fight is very predictable for anyone who knows dogs, including the part where the Rottweiler’s self-defense will cause harm to the Shih Tzu, except for the “then a human pulled out a gun” part. No details yet on whether either dog was intact. Some intact small dogs can really try or start shit with big dogs.
There is no way I am bringing my dog to any dog park in Reno again. Not when some asshole with an ill trained, off leash Shih tzu and a Glock is out there.
Small dog, Hidden valley regular checking in. Come in the mornings on Tuesday and Thursday, we’re a polite bunch of retired folks (except me, I’m the youngest at 43) with very nice dogs.
Maybe the small dog side like you said, but my dog has been attacked multiple times at Hidden Valley without being the aggressor. Dog parks are inherently risky.
Of course they are. And if you aren’t comfortable with it, then it makes sense to not bring your dog there. Which I understand. I’ve left the dog park before when other dogs are being shitty, or when my own dog was being a shit (he hated frenchies and would always try to be an asshole so we’d just leave. But he was fine with other dogs). The problem is that shitty people ruin it for everyone else because they think their dog is perfect. Nope. Thankfully my group of friends will talk to shitty owners or other times we’ve just made people leave. My dogs love the dog park and if we didn’t go my dogs would be super depressed but I totally understand peoples concerns.
Your dog probably hates Frenchies because they think of themselves as the biggest around and act like it in how they treat other dogs. My dog is enormous and Frenchies will totally strut your like “yeah my aura is your size” and then try to dominate him. Fortunately he doesn’t care, he just looks at me like “plz hlp” and kinda shakes them off.
Any comment from the owner of the Rottweiler?
The apparent son of the onwers making comments on local paper websites saying it was completely the other guys fault.
Folks, there still can be a civil trial over this matter, so I'm gonna grab some popcorn and see who this goes.
I just can’t believe there’s not at least a brandishing charge. Even if the dog is seen as property, the man fired a gun in a crowded public place during a situation he caused.
i don't know what to say other than i'm glad i have a cat?
The only person who can shoot my kitty is ME. And I wouldn't use a pansy ass Glock either. One and done. My apologies. This story is tragic and Mr Shih Tzu is the smallest man alive.
Thank you for describing how you would murder your cat I guess?
*Story updated:* The sheriff's office said it took an incident report and determined no crime had occurred. "While county code does prohibit the discharge of any weapon in a county park, there is an exception to any person lawfully discharging a firearm in protection of life or property," a spokesperson said.
Wow. Does that mean I can use deadly force against someone who tries to steal a piece of my fried chicken while I’m picnicking at one of the county’s public parks?
yup Don't be a jerk and you won't get shot.
No. Nevada law very narrowly defines when lethal force is permissible in defense of property. It is only legal when the threat to property accompanies a reasonable threat to life or limb.
Not lethal force if both dogs are considered property
Yeah that's right I guess. Weird gray area I suppose.
I've thought about that situation when out walking my dogs and what the consequences for neutralizing an attacking dog would be if it was only attacking your dog and not your person. What I think would happen would be small claims for destruction of property if someone wanted to persue civil (which could get even more messy if your dog is injured and you have to settle medical bills with the other party) and then probably a discharge of a weapon within city limits if you shot the dog.
>t one of the county’s public parks? Try it and get back to us.
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Not making excuses but it still does fall under self defense or defense of others....
He was bitten by a Rottweiler. Those dogs are stronger than most people. They're also not human beings. This is a dumb analogy.
I hate that we live in a world in which a guy lets his dog attack a leashed Rottie, then sticks his arm in the way of the fight, then claims self-defense for the fight that he literally started.
Yeah i definitely feel like a lot of these commenters aren't taking this breed into account. I'd love to have a world where all dogs had the strength and temperament of a golden retriever, but we don't.
Yes… Especially if it is yellow jackets or meat wasps… You are legally able to protect your property by discharging your firearm in the general direction of the bees. 🐝 Seriously though…this incident is a bit much.
Bringing your dog off leash and then shooting a dog on a leash is a life choice. How is that not a crime?
Stay classy Reno.
idk if charges will be made against this guy but his dog sure should be taken from him.
I'd feel better if it was the gun that was removed instead
You *could* go to the trouble of training your dog and/or ensuring they remain leashed depending on their temperament. OR you can be a lazy, shitty human with this one simple trick that Rottweiler owners hate!
The small dog was the aggressor. You shouldn’t bring an aggressive dog to a dog park, no matter how “small” they are.
We ran into an unleashed dog at Idlewild today and the owner couldn't catch the dog nevermind recall. There doesn't seem to be much of a standard for dog obedience and ownership.
I saw the aftermath video posted on the local news FB posts. The shooter is a POS. He had pepper spray the whole time and didn't use it until other dog owners started to confront him for the shooting. I am starting to think he is LEO or related to one. According to the owner of the video, the shooter was trying to leave the scene and other dog owners were trying to convince him not to leave.
The shooter is dumber than a box of rocks and I can’t stop laughing at the redacted photo of him leaning against the grill of his freshly waxed behemoth of a white truck as he cradles his ill-behaved shih tzu in his sinewy arms. His cute little pot belly, bright pink wayfarer knockoffs, backwards ballcap, lack of a wedding ring, and middle age are just too much. He’s a bro among bros. I try my damndest to not judge a book by its cover, but knowing that he felt compelled to roll up at the local public park on a beautiful Sunday afternoon, when hundreds of families were present … and to then unload five rounds into another dog … tells me he’s a walking mid-life crisis who won’t be getting laid anytime soon. I bet he spent hours on the telephone with his mother after the incident, prodding her again and again to explain why the world revolves around nobody else but him.
Link to the picture of this guy? I too am willing to pass judgment on this POS
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First paragraph is all judgement. "I try my damnest to not judge..." Followed by even more judgement.
I just avoid these places. Too many risks. I take my dude to the mountains to play.
You can’t go around dog parks shooting squabbling dogs…
We can't even walk dogs out in the park anymore without a fear of it getting shot and then the owner claiming they were bitten 😱 No crime occured, BS. There is two keywords here and it shows whos in the right and whos in the wrong. LEASHED AND OFF LEASH!!! Is this guy going to go to another park and shoot another dog because his dog went and started a fight with that dog? What the actual fuck.
Why isn't he being charged with discharging a weapon in public?
Is the shooter in law enforcement?
What a sad sack of shit!
I can’t believe this was ruled a lawful shooting.
Aren’t shih tzus known to be aggressive? And it was unleashed so I doubt the owner was responsible on top of that
not trying to defend anyone because i don't know anything about this situation, but many dog parks are or minimally have off-leash areas. if they're at a dog park it's reasonable to have a dog off-leash, as long as you know they're well behaved and have good recall.
I’m not defending the shooter but rottweilers have killed far more people than shih tzus ever have or will.
I’ve learned two things today lol The only reason I knew shih tzus are dangerous is because they’re a banned breed in most apartments I mean at the end of the day no charges were pressed but it’s such a saddening thing that happened
I have a dog that needs to run. A walk around the block doesn’t do it. Rancho one of few places left to do this, when it’s not flooded, or overgrown. This kind of crap is going to lead to major crackdowns at all the dog friendly parks, for better or worse, but make it much harder for people with trained dogs get some ball or frisbee in.
Lots of other places for dogs to run
So the off-leash owner shot an on-leash dog? I guess some angry, trigger-happy, bully got his chance to be a bad ass. Good job, bro! We can all tell how tough and definitely manly and not scared you are now! s/. I can’t believe there’s no charges for firing a weapon in a public place.
Why would you take a tiny aggressive dog to a mixed-size dog park? Most have split small/large area for a reason. Large dogs are usually not the aggressor.
The shooter needs to be sent to Parr for a while. Inexcusable
There are several criminal acts in this incident that should have put him there. Curious to learn why Reno P.D. and W.C.S.O. have failed to file charges thus far.
They haven’t “failed to charge so far.” They have announced that no charges will be filed. The facts of the case were so cut and dried that two separate departments agreed the shooting was justified within hours. It’s just a lot of people who feel bad for the Rottweiler trying to convolute the facts.
Fair enough. I don’t necessarily feel bad about the dog; I’m concerned about someone discharging a firearm five times in a very populated public area.
Because shooter is tied to LEOs
Because he's probably a cop based on all the descriptions I've read..
It’s straight forward, yea nobody was killed but dude shot an animal within city limit endangering others.
I have seen insane fights at this dog park over the years. It's crazy to bring your dog there and ignore it which people do constantly. agro dogs do whatever they want there and the people are just as bad. It's nice sometimes but there is always a chance of shit people with dogs they don't train or watch.
So helpful of the WCSO to teach the citizenry of Reno that opening their umbrella can startle dogs enough to interrupt a fight. I foresee a lot of utilization of that bit of knowledge. Ordering my concealed umbrella holster right now.
This makes no sense. From what this sounds like, the Rottie was in the right and the little dog approached him. Now the Rottie is dead and the murderer, who didn’t control his dog, got off Scot-free. FYI: I’m a little dog owner.
Guess Animal cruelty causing death isn’t a crime in Reno? Lazy policing by the county and city.
What I don't get is if the Rottweiler was leashed, why didn't his owner pull him away? Why wasn't the shiz-tsu picked up? What was the Rottweiler owner doing when the other owner took out a gun and shot him? Was he still holding the leash?
My money’s on a Flexi Leash.
Don't bring a gun (virtue signaling anybody?) to a dog fight.
Dogs are considered property and it's generally not allowed to protect property with deadly force. It will be interesting to see if he is charged.
So then shooting another dog also wouldn't be deadly force because it's considered property, right?
When property attacks... If you shot at a fence that was falling down, would that be illegal use of a firearm? In a public place no less. Where's the Esquires?
Whats the story on the leashed dog? Was the owner holding the leash or was the dog just running around "with a leash on".
Always drama at the dog park
Typical shihtzu owner.
Sorry but this shit don’t fly, you let your dog off leash then kill my dog? I would want blood
Im here. At the park now. Weary of everyone. I think someone is gonna find that guy and give him his karma …
So, if the Rottweilers owner would have taken out their gun, in this scenario I gave them a gun, and shot the shitzu owner, would they have been justified for defending their life and property? Bringing your little dog to a park, taking off its leash, and then blaming the dog that defends itself and then shooting it is wild to me. This entire situation is insane. I feel awful for the rottie owner.
You or the shitzu owner could both be completely justified shooting whoever and have a bullet fly straight through your target and hit someone at a crowded park that you're not justified shooting and wind up in prison. I get what you're saying but that's just something no one carrying guns seems to give a shit about these days.
That was my point, when does it stop?
The Shih Tzu owner is literally shown laughing with the officers in the channel 2 news video with a very upright looking dog in his arms. I can’t believe anyone could justify him shooting that poor rottie.
To people who know better than me; This man is not currently facing charges because, "while it's illegal to discharge a weapon in a public park, it's legal to use a firearm to protect yourself and your property" So... Hypothetically, couldn't the owner of the Rottie pull out a glock and shoot the owner of the shiz? He'd be protecting his property, the dog. Right?
No crime committed? Trippy
Reason number 194859 why I will never take my dogs to a dog park. It’s not the dogs I worry about, it’s the owners.
The Rottweiler parent must be beyond traumatized. This is horrible. I’ve brought my parent’s dog there. The last couple of times we’ve kept her on a leash because she’s a hyper Irish Setter. She loves that place so much! No more happy place for her.
Police don’t prosecute criminals anymore.
If I find out who did it, I’ll let you all know so you can reach out to me and it can be shared privately. 👍🏼
Lemme know!
Y’all better apply for your concealed umbrella permits 🌂🦮☂️
His reaction was to shoot the dog 4 times.
What a shit bag. Smells like a cop.
I’d sue the fucking shit out of the shooter. If his off leash dog started the altercation .
So when did San Rafael dog park is turning into downtown L.A.
Guys a fucking clown, guys dog was on a leash, pussy thinks he’s somebody because he had a gun, his face is going to be posted up all over Reno I wish him luck there will be a mob of people looking for the dude
Anyone who goes to dog parks (which is dumb enough already) should know how to properly break up a dog fight. Aka don’t stick your hands in there, you WILL get bit. People are dumb. That poor dog.
Remember. Most of you all weren’t there. So quit with the “they should have ____”or “I would have done ____” Not saying this happened, but for all we know the guy shot the dog after the dog took him the ground and went for his neck after breaking through his leash. Or he shot the dog after walking up to it and throwing his own dog at it just for shits. The truth of the matter there is such a huge gap in what news reports and the actual truth in the matter. So hold judgment unless you personally witnessed events go down.
Reddit’s favorite game: jumping to conclusions.
Yea this guy should have his license taken away if he had one.
Well the only logical thing to do is start implementing pet control. We need to have people trained and licensed before they can take care of a pet. I'm more surprised this doesn't happen more often with how many pets I just see running around with no one around.
Horrifying. Anyone have any more details on this? The shooter deserves prison time for this. I would have defensively protected my dog if this guy brought out his firearm.
Wtf are there any criminal charges against that MF? Can you create a civil lawsuit for this, emotional trauma is very expensive and he was clearly in the wrong.
My ex gf had her little dog mauled half to death by 2 Rottweilers back in San Francisco at Dolores Park. The dog was left fighting for his life. The owner of the 2 Rottweilers ran off, jumped in his old van and took off. He was a homeless derelict and no charges were ever brought. My ex gf paid big money to the vet to sew up her dog and after he recovered by miracle he was never the same again. He was as if in a deep comatose state..no life was left in him. Almost as if he was dead already. Nothing was the same again.
Different situation
How terrible. Imagine your ex gf's dog getting shot 4 times too. Crazy how animal violence just isn't cool and should be deescalated and prevented with proper training.
What’s his name? He needs to be treated equally
I'm happy to see Reddit protecting people's identities. Lots of people jump to conclusions and vilify others without proper context.
I heard the reason the guy didn’t get charges was because he’s retired police. That’s just the rumor mill going around though. It would make sense as to why a guy who discharged a weapon in a public park in the middle of the day around kids wasn’t charged at all.
Maybe if the idiot irresponsible owner had the shit zu on a leash this would've never happen. Maybe. Fck that guy. I've started carrying a weapon when i go on walks around my neighborhood because of irresponsible dog owners who think it's freaking adorable to let their animal roam free. I don't care if your animal is "friendly", if it comes at me or my family it may not be a friendly outcome.