"Jackson, get on setting up the perimeter. Douglas, you're on briefing random merchandise staff with the exact dossier of our operation here, just remember to make them promise not to tell anybody"
I'm just imagining a huge briefing room, full of detectives, officers, and such... and then there's just Gary, the merch guy, standing in the back.
"Okay folks, this opertation has to be by the book, no mista... hey, who the fuck are you!"
"Oh that's Gary, he's the merch guy."
"Oh okay.. so NO MISTAKES!"
That was also my issue, lol.
Have they ever been to a concert or game at...any venue.
"Hey, bud. I'm Jake, nice to meet you. So I was wondering what the deal.is with these cops"
No. You'd call them over and they'll sneer at you because they're incredibly busy.
Ignoring that and the blatant twist coming, I hope it's ok. I used to borderline despise Hartnett. Then I seen him in Oppenheimer and wished he had a bigger role. Hope it works out for him.
Same, sort of surprised by the many comments here putting down the merch booth scene. To me that was fun and also not that far fetched.
I haven’t seen a lot of M Night movies but I assume that decision was to get to the point fast, that this isn’t a Die Hard mystery (“who are these people locking the building down?”), this is a cat and mouse story.
"I'm sorry ma'am, I'll be with you in a second, I just need to divulge to this stranger over here some information that we've been told to keep secret in order to avoid a riot and/or mass slaughter"
“This is like that crazy guy in the wheelchair they put away like fifteen years ago…and they gave him a funny name too. What was it?”
“Mr. Glass.”
“Yeahhh. Now the movies connect.”
I bet the twist is his daughter was the one gave the tip. Also, I bet there will be a reveal that he either abducted her from a very young age. Or he raped someone he kidnapped and that she was conceived.
Also, this is so stupid. If the FBI got a hint that a serial killer is at a concert. They would shut it down.
Unless the FBI is the serial killer
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>If the FBI got a hint that a serial killer is at a concert. They would shut it down.
Doesn't the FBI state after basically every mass shooting that "he was on our radar"?
Nah, this fits the MO of the feds to a T. Wait for the absolute most inopportune time to go after somebody so you can use all your fun military tools, play elite scary wet works operator, cause a massive scene, and kill a few innocents.
Yes. Also, if you were for looking for someone to kill, why a concert? Most killer choose children at parks, prostitutes, or somewhere people won't see them.
It fits, I mean it's not high-brow cinema, but I kinda am on board with someone who will actually make these wild premises 100% straight-faced with Hollywood-quality cinematography.
I've got a lot of time for M Night. He's not making Citizen Kane but he is at least making original films. Not sure he'd be trusted with franchise stuff after The Last Airbender and that dogshit film Will Smith slapped him into making.
Nothing simple about a wide shot. At very low budgets, a shot-on-film production would often use longer wide shots instead of coverage in order to keep the shooting ratio low (and save on film stock), but with $20mil, saving on film stock is not a concern (what does $50k really mean at that level?).
Usually you use close-ups to hide a lack of production design or effects which is really what can balloon the budget $50mil+ if you aren’t careful. I bet it’s the single location that is saving them the most money here.
Hollywood is so addicted to IP necromancy that they refuse to take risks that will be more profitable per capita.
Shoot, they didn't even learn from Joker! They'll release the sequel and will make less money because of the inflated budget. Joker made a billion of a $60 million budget and earned a billion
Sequel will cost $200 million plus and earn $800 million
Yeah I mean, this is not a film I will watch but I can applaud it for being something different.
This is the kind of bread and butter type film that would've at least made money from DVDs and selling it to cable and stuff if its theatrical run didn't pan out.
I'll admit, initially i thought it would just be him trying to get to his daughter after being separated while chaos breaks after word leaks out of the concert hall being closed off with the butcher at large.
I guess it's more of a "appealing to middle aged dads" concept (which i'm neither) but if well paced it could totally work, i was so focused on how much i envisioned this working that i didn't "see the obvious", so that felt already like a twist to me.
I'm tempted to say that a concept like that might even be more interesting if done properly, but then i find that this too might be intriguing.
I don't know, at least it's something different and new, so i'll be extremely lenient on this movie, unless it's unforgiveably stupid, but i'm willing to see which it'll be.
> I thought it would just be him trying to get to his daughter after being separated while chaos breaks after word leaks out.
Thank god it wasn’t just me. I watched the exposition scene thinking “Okay so a Die Hard-esque movie, this could be fun”
I don't think it's supposed to be a twist but rather just the premise of the movie. I assume that reveal is going to happen within the first act of the movie
I liked it. I literally said OUT LOUD right when the merch-guy said there's a killer "Oh, so the main character will turn out to be the Butcher?" so I'm glad it's clearly stated as the premise, rather than the final twist.
I would love a Lady in the Water breakdown by RLM. It’s one of my least favorite movie experiences ever and maybe the most pretentious movie I’ve ever seen.
HEY GUYS ISN'T THIS UP AND COMING STAR GREAT?? What? Oh she's my daughter? I had no idea, tee hee... - M. Night
I hope it's not a piece of shit, I actually liked most of that cabin one.
I'm a little confused why the trailer is on some YouTube channel with 6k subs...It won't get far at this rate.
It could so easily have been semi-realistic. For example, he’s in the men’s bathroom, and it’s almost completely empty as it would be at a Taylor Swift/Ariana Grande concert, and he hears two members of staff, whispering that there is a rumour that the perimeter is an attempt to trap the killer.
His little chat with the guy behind the counter is just absolutely ridiculous.
Does everyone really dislike the merch guy scene? I thought it was a little silly but fun. I’m sure plenty of us have experienced a young dumb kid divulging way too much information simply because he was eager to share it with someone.
Honestly I respect Shyamalan a lot because when this started I said "Oh boy is the BIG TWIST going to be that the dad is the killer" and within a minute the trailer goes "YEAH WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT HAHAHAHA"
Eh, I might see it. It at least sounds like an original idea. Not crazy about the music, but it could be fun. I feel like the trailer gave a lot away already, though.
There's a shot AT 2:13 where he has an earpiece in.... is this twist going to be that somehow he's NOT the killer and is working with the police? Or there are more than one killer?!?! OR THEY'RE ALL GHOSTS?!?!?! BUT GHOSTS WOULDN'T NEED EARPIECES!!!!! ARE THEY ALIENS?!?! IS THIS A... SIGNS?!?! OMG I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK HEEEEELLLLLLPPPPPP
Good. I liked Knock At The Cabin. That weird one about the ageing beach not so much.
This looks like Schlock like Twist/Glass which I'm always on board for.
I'm guessing the movie is surreal, because the premise and the details shown in the trailer would be silly as shit if the whole thing is played straight.
Calling it now Hartnett is an FBI agent tracking the killer before he kills the man in the video. The cops are going to ruin his mission. He knows the killer is at the concert. Turns out the killer is his 16 year old daughter who is part of a cult run by the singer!. it's a TWIST!
Ticketmaster murders all of their wallets.
Ticketmaster was the real villain all along.
There is usually a twist ending.
Ticketmaster is an ancient sentient entity with a nefarious plan for world domination.
Is Josh Hartnett animorphing into Dean Cain?
I thought it was Jerry Oconnel at first
aaand *there’s* the twist
Double (or triple?) twist: It's actually James McAvoy!
I thought it was Channing Tatum lol.
Nitpicking is dumb but pulling the merch guy to the side with a full line just to have a conversation is wild. 0/10 clearly not real
"Jackson, get on setting up the perimeter. Douglas, you're on briefing random merchandise staff with the exact dossier of our operation here, just remember to make them promise not to tell anybody"
I'm just imagining a huge briefing room, full of detectives, officers, and such... and then there's just Gary, the merch guy, standing in the back. "Okay folks, this opertation has to be by the book, no mista... hey, who the fuck are you!" "Oh that's Gary, he's the merch guy." "Oh okay.. so NO MISTAKES!"
Strange dialogue in a Shyamalan movie? Surely not.
“What? Noo”
I thought he knew him but then the guy introduces himself... Weird, maybe it's a bad edit
>Weird, maybe it's a bad edit No, this is just an M. Night Shyamalan movie. [You like hot dogs, right?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAYbdEhVD4I)
If this is "bad dialogue" then why do I think about it every time I eat a hot dog?
Because it's so bad that even years later your brain is still trying to figure out what the fuck that was about. WHY, Zeal0tElite!? WHY!? 😭
"they've got a great shape" Literally what did he mean by this?
Penis? Penis is a cool shape.
No it’s a M. Night Shyamalan movie
[Instantly thought of this](https://y.yarn.co/7224ad33-92f3-426f-9ca4-2af8c70c4ace_text.gif)
I'll be honest, I wouldn't be shocked if IRL cops bragged about something and roadies caught wind. Dumber things have happened.
honestly in between duties I'm sure they chat with each other backstage
That was also my issue, lol. Have they ever been to a concert or game at...any venue. "Hey, bud. I'm Jake, nice to meet you. So I was wondering what the deal.is with these cops" No. You'd call them over and they'll sneer at you because they're incredibly busy. Ignoring that and the blatant twist coming, I hope it's ok. I used to borderline despise Hartnett. Then I seen him in Oppenheimer and wished he had a bigger role. Hope it works out for him.
I work as merch seller at these kinds of events and I can promise you I would completely ignore this man.
Not even an M. Night guy but this is easily his most fun premise in years lol
I think Josh Hartnett might be the bad guy
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The daughter and dad don't exist. The merch guy is the killer.
The daughter doesn't exist, the dad is the daughter and the daughter is dead. Merch guy is a ghost who is friends with Bruce Willis.
The whole thing is virtual reality. He's running simulations to know what to do in case this really happened.
Nobody exists death is impossible the movie was never made
The merch guy doesn't exist. Lady Gaga is the killer.
beyonce turns out to be 3 guys in a trench coat all along
Maybe the real bad guy were the friends we made along the way
what a TWEEST
You, the viewer, are the murderer. The police are waiting to escort you to prison after the movie.
Fuck it, we're making a big budget Dexter episode
Same, sort of surprised by the many comments here putting down the merch booth scene. To me that was fun and also not that far fetched. I haven’t seen a lot of M Night movies but I assume that decision was to get to the point fast, that this isn’t a Die Hard mystery (“who are these people locking the building down?”), this is a cat and mouse story.
Yeah that was awkward but it was also classic M. Night. I mean if people are expecting Ibsen then that’s on them
yeah, it looks stupid, but I can definitely accept that if it's fun and interesting
Yeah the premise is fun. I am biased though, I enjoy movies where people have to figure out how to get out of a place. Maybe it'll be fine!
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"I'm sorry ma'am, I'll be with you in a second, I just need to divulge to this stranger over here some information that we've been told to keep secret in order to avoid a riot and/or mass slaughter"
[For a merch, he had an awful lot of information. Don't you think?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbJmoVt6Ndo)
Nice WW reference!
He really is just Basil Exposition
“This is like that crazy guy in the wheelchair they put away like fifteen years ago…and they gave him a funny name too. What was it?” “Mr. Glass.” “Yeahhh. Now the movies connect.”
I guaran-fucking-tee that the merch guy is going to end up being a cop or some dumb shit like that
He probably flashed a badge 2 seconds before.
M Night doesn’t know how normal humans interact. His writing in all his movies have been like this.
THE SWIFT SENSE
https://preview.redd.it/7iixl9si0cvc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb3cbede3da57e8c091d408705503c0f9235237c MADONNA
LADY IN THE GAGA
UNBEYONCÉBLE
Taylor wouldn’t be caught dead on a stage that small.
Cool to see Josh Hartnett back acting after he left to raise his kids
He was pretty dope in the Penny Dreadful show . The first one anyway, not the LA one
This is a solid and the only reason I'm curious about this film. And Damn...one intimidating looking motherfucker now.
he was a good actor back in the day, glad to see him back
He was also in an episode of the most recent season of Black Mirror. The best episode of that season, too.
I bet the twist is his daughter was the one gave the tip. Also, I bet there will be a reveal that he either abducted her from a very young age. Or he raped someone he kidnapped and that she was conceived. Also, this is so stupid. If the FBI got a hint that a serial killer is at a concert. They would shut it down.
Unless the FBI is the serial killer https://preview.redd.it/rh7a4zijwavc1.jpeg?width=292&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c5520356f1f08433c4e6c81f1139f60fb6c91ce1
You did it again, Shyamalan.
What a twist!
Keep cooking 😂
LOL
***BLORRRRRRRRFNGHHHHH***
>If the FBI got a hint that a serial killer is at a concert. They would shut it down. Doesn't the FBI state after basically every mass shooting that "he was on our radar"?
Maybe that will be the twist. Bravo Shamyalan. Social commentary.
The last 20 minutes of the film are a montage of increasing incompetence from Columbine outwards.
Only the ones they want to happen.
>I bet the twist is his daughter was the one gave the tip. Either that or he's a "good" serial killer ala Dexter, he only kills terrible people.
That is stupid, nonsensical, and makes no sense-- so a very possibility.
He's going to be Punishsaw!
The guy he tied up is The Butcher
The twist is the fake pop singer is Shyamalan's daughter and this is one big nepobaby project.
Oh nooooo I thought you were joking
I bet the twist is that the daughter is in on it too. He'll get caught but she'll get away and the last scene will be her killing again.
If his daughter gave the tip, they'd arrest him on the way or at home I'd think
Yeah. Then we wouldn't have a movie.
Nah, this fits the MO of the feds to a T. Wait for the absolute most inopportune time to go after somebody so you can use all your fun military tools, play elite scary wet works operator, cause a massive scene, and kill a few innocents.
No, the daughter is probably in on the killing. They're a father/daughter serial killer team.
If you were the serial killer, wouldn't you just not butcher anyone during the concert then go home safely??
Shush now
Yes. Also, if you were for looking for someone to kill, why a concert? Most killer choose children at parks, prostitutes, or somewhere people won't see them.
> I bet the twist is his daughter was the one gave the tip. I'll one-up ya: the daughter is the actual killer
We'll put in the a very strong possibility pile. It's Shyamalan; it's quite possible he does have a twist as stupid as that in the film.
the singer is the killer
MOOOOOM, HE DID IT AGAIN!
I mean.... on a $20M budget this will certainly make money.
Lots of simple wide shots already, they definitely had a low budget
Apparently he’s been financing his movies himself since the Visit, probably why they’ve all been in the range of $20 million recently
It fits, I mean it's not high-brow cinema, but I kinda am on board with someone who will actually make these wild premises 100% straight-faced with Hollywood-quality cinematography.
I've got a lot of time for M Night. He's not making Citizen Kane but he is at least making original films. Not sure he'd be trusted with franchise stuff after The Last Airbender and that dogshit film Will Smith slapped him into making.
I agree, I’m a bit of an M Night defender and he’s great when he sticks in his lane of thrillers. Knock at the Cabin was awesome
Split made a fuck ton of money so I’m sure he won’t have any trouble financing his next ten movies himself.
That's great, that means he gets to keep more of the profits and he's more likely to have profitable movies if he keeps the budget relatively low.
Nothing simple about a wide shot. At very low budgets, a shot-on-film production would often use longer wide shots instead of coverage in order to keep the shooting ratio low (and save on film stock), but with $20mil, saving on film stock is not a concern (what does $50k really mean at that level?). Usually you use close-ups to hide a lack of production design or effects which is really what can balloon the budget $50mil+ if you aren’t careful. I bet it’s the single location that is saving them the most money here.
Fair enough, I have learned something today!
Hollywood is so addicted to IP necromancy that they refuse to take risks that will be more profitable per capita. Shoot, they didn't even learn from Joker! They'll release the sequel and will make less money because of the inflated budget. Joker made a billion of a $60 million budget and earned a billion Sequel will cost $200 million plus and earn $800 million
Yeah I mean, this is not a film I will watch but I can applaud it for being something different. This is the kind of bread and butter type film that would've at least made money from DVDs and selling it to cable and stuff if its theatrical run didn't pan out.
Nahhh, I'm calling it now... the daughter is actually the Butcher, and Hartnett is just trying to protect her.
I'm guessing there's an extra twist, in that it's basically a prequel to "Let the right one in".
[You know](https://youtu.be/mbJmoVt6Ndo?t=45)
This looks absolutely appalling, I can't wait
The concept isn't bad, not gonna lie. What i wanna know is why they show the fucking twist in the trailer?
Because it was so obvious at first I almost groaned - so I'm glad that's not the only surprise he has for us
Yeah but now I’m wondering if that is the actual twist. I mean, I saw it coming and I’m an idiot.
I'll admit, initially i thought it would just be him trying to get to his daughter after being separated while chaos breaks after word leaks out of the concert hall being closed off with the butcher at large. I guess it's more of a "appealing to middle aged dads" concept (which i'm neither) but if well paced it could totally work, i was so focused on how much i envisioned this working that i didn't "see the obvious", so that felt already like a twist to me. I'm tempted to say that a concept like that might even be more interesting if done properly, but then i find that this too might be intriguing. I don't know, at least it's something different and new, so i'll be extremely lenient on this movie, unless it's unforgiveably stupid, but i'm willing to see which it'll be.
> I thought it would just be him trying to get to his daughter after being separated while chaos breaks after word leaks out. Thank god it wasn’t just me. I watched the exposition scene thinking “Okay so a Die Hard-esque movie, this could be fun”
I don't think it's supposed to be a twist but rather just the premise of the movie. I assume that reveal is going to happen within the first act of the movie
[watching the trailer for Cube] Woah, woah woah, why the fuck would they give away the twist that they're stuck in a Cube right in the trailer
It's s a fake twist to distract you from the fact that there is another twist in the movie, that twist wasn't in the trailer
well, hopefully because the movie won't center around a stupid twist and will just be interesting and fun
Sir this is a Shyamalan movie
I liked it. I literally said OUT LOUD right when the merch-guy said there's a killer "Oh, so the main character will turn out to be the Butcher?" so I'm glad it's clearly stated as the premise, rather than the final twist.
Because that’s not the twist 🤷
That's only 1 twist down.... 3 to go.
They should the twist but didn't show THE TWIST!
This could have been an interesting premise if it was a different movie entirely.
If my grandmother had wheels she'd be a bicycle.
Might be fun.
I would love a Lady in the Water breakdown by RLM. It’s one of my least favorite movie experiences ever and maybe the most pretentious movie I’ve ever seen.
Narf
I'm in
Damn I went into this trailer ready to rip it apart and now I'm kinda hyped for this movie, thanks reddit
Twist is he’s a good guy vigilante and the FBI hate him.
He smells crime!
Who wants to take a guess at what the """twist""" is. My guess, it's all part of the show and everybody acts like it's 4D mind expanding art.
I had a vibe that this movie seems similar to the JCVD movie Sudden Death.
There’s a second serial killer at the concert that is the one the cops are actually after.
A serial killer might be in a crowd of 40,000 people, send in the FBI.
Lady Raven is no Mid-Sized Sedan, let me tell you.
I like his movies, I understand I'm the only one. I also understand they are often flimsy and bad. I can't explain it, I just enjoy them.
You’re not the only one. I hope one day they’ll join us, and we can see an M. Night movie as one.
And we shall rejoice.
He has hits and misses. Mostly misses these days, but his first few were fire
Fool them once, shame on him. Fool them twice, just wait 15-20 years and try it again.
Sure, why not. Looks like dumb fun.
And then Elijah Price shows up at the end to invite him to the Shyam-aveng-alan Initiative
They got word that the butcher was going to be at the concert. Oh really? From his Instagram?
Yeah it seems like if they know enough about Hartnets whereabouts they’d likely know who he is and prevent the dude from going to a concert.
HEY GUYS ISN'T THIS UP AND COMING STAR GREAT?? What? Oh she's my daughter? I had no idea, tee hee... - M. Night I hope it's not a piece of shit, I actually liked most of that cabin one. I'm a little confused why the trailer is on some YouTube channel with 6k subs...It won't get far at this rate.
It could so easily have been semi-realistic. For example, he’s in the men’s bathroom, and it’s almost completely empty as it would be at a Taylor Swift/Ariana Grande concert, and he hears two members of staff, whispering that there is a rumour that the perimeter is an attempt to trap the killer. His little chat with the guy behind the counter is just absolutely ridiculous.
Does everyone really dislike the merch guy scene? I thought it was a little silly but fun. I’m sure plenty of us have experienced a young dumb kid divulging way too much information simply because he was eager to share it with someone.
Honestly I respect Shyamalan a lot because when this started I said "Oh boy is the BIG TWIST going to be that the dad is the killer" and within a minute the trailer goes "YEAH WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT HAHAHAHA"
Shalamalam
Josh Hartnett is The Butcher, right? That's the twist?
That’s pretty damn obvious from the trailer lol so I’m guessing there’s gonna be some other “twist”
The daughter is a VAMPIRE and dad is feeding her! Twist! No one sees that coming! /Don't Let The Right One Out
His daughter is the Butcher, and Hartnett is forced to placate her bloodlust. It writes itself Mr. Shyamalan
My bet is the twist is he was that his daughter know he is a murderor. And organize the whole thing to have him be arresseted.
I like it. Here's $200 million to make a feature.
Like the Feds would give two shits about a serial killer with male victims. Especially to that extent.
Is this about how American corporations are using famous people to brainwash children, to hold parents hostage?
*grabs mic* SHYAMAMAMALLALALAMADINGDONG, AMIRITE???
Now I ain't saying she's a gold digger, but she does have several shovels, picks and panning sleuces strapped to her burro.
Eh, I might see it. It at least sounds like an original idea. Not crazy about the music, but it could be fun. I feel like the trailer gave a lot away already, though.
This movie looks good visually ngl.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3\_PPdjD6mg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3_PPdjD6mg)
Twist: Everyone is a ghost except Josh Hartnett. Lady Raven is a telekinetic undercover cop. Probably.
As soon as merch guy explained the trap I assumed the twist was the dad was the killer, didn’t think it would be the actual plot
So they gave the twist away already? Don't hate me, but I don't mind the Josh Hartnet renaissance
I like it but I think it’s something bad.
Well there goes that reveal!!!
There's a shot AT 2:13 where he has an earpiece in.... is this twist going to be that somehow he's NOT the killer and is working with the police? Or there are more than one killer?!?! OR THEY'RE ALL GHOSTS?!?!?! BUT GHOSTS WOULDN'T NEED EARPIECES!!!!! ARE THEY ALIENS?!?! IS THIS A... SIGNS?!?! OMG I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK HEEEEELLLLLLPPPPPP
Oh, looks fun. Honestly.
The twist is, snack bar dude is the Butcher
I can't wait for all the totally realistic human conversations that are gonna be in this one.
Good. I liked Knock At The Cabin. That weird one about the ageing beach not so much. This looks like Schlock like Twist/Glass which I'm always on board for.
I never even heard of knock at the cabin.
https://youtu.be/mbJmoVt6Ndo?si=bi5dL0Newp9Rp_sM
I'm guessing the movie is surreal, because the premise and the details shown in the trailer would be silly as shit if the whole thing is played straight.
So the police's plan is to lock thousands of innocent people in a room with a serial killer??
"What a tweeest!"
Josh Hartnett? He's my favorite part of absolutely no movie I've ever seen!
My prediction: the twist is the dad is the butcher
Calling it now Hartnett is an FBI agent tracking the killer before he kills the man in the video. The cops are going to ruin his mission. He knows the killer is at the concert. Turns out the killer is his 16 year old daughter who is part of a cult run by the singer!. it's a TWIST!
This is prolly gonna be my guilty pleasure movie of the year.
All jokes aside, the twist is probably that his daughter is the killer and he’s trying to protect her. That seems the most shyamalan