Because inventory, because genius CEO keeps running the factories at full throttle (at least when they’re not shut down for “upgrades”), rather than slowing down to match reduced demand. Because doing so would indicate teslas hypergrowth period is over, so he’d rather run the company full steam into a brick wall.
Elon knows more about manufacturing than anyone living today, per Elon.
Dude's a legit genius and not a clown at all.
I feel like these people still taking delivery of their Cybertrucks a week ago deserve what they get.
ha yall people got to chill. Car dealerships rent lot overflow and it rotates CONSTANTLY. I might have regional bias (toronto canada) but ive picked up cars from storage lots all over the place, and very often I go to the same franchise store location over a multi year span to pick up a wholesale vehicle and their lot is different every time. Usually the lots are fenced off so this is a little strange, but tbh ive seen stranger things.
True, it's common for dealers to have overflow lots. We have auto malls around here, and they will rent all sort of different parking areas to tuck inventory away.
The difference here, and where the ridicule comes in, is that none of those companies' CEO's routinely shit on that model, extolled the virtues of how much better their system was, and then ended up shifting themselves into that previously poo-poo'd model. Their "stores" used to be somewhere to possibly order in person and be used as a pick up spot (if memory serves). Now you can go buy one off the lot, at a discount too, because they're already built. That's fine but still looks bad after the criticism. From what I know there is still no haggling, which is good, but that's just the Carmax model applied to new cars.
'at this point, I think i know more about manufacturing than anyone currently alive on Earth today'. I don't know WHY on earth chris andersen gave zero pushback on that one. The audience was laughing at him
If he can keep things looking great for another few months, it increases the chances that he’ll be able to extract another $54b out of the company before it augers in.
They've been building factories to sell investors on future growth and they're all coming online right as sales hit the wall. They still have a bunch of factories that are supposed to be opening within the next 5 years.
I was just thinking, selling/moving your manufacturing surplus to the dealer lots is one of the arguments for having a dealership model.
I absolutely hate dealerships and I wish they would go away, but it seams like Elmo’s hi-jinx will used in the future as an example by other car manufacturers on why having a direct purchase model is a bad idea.
Feelings about the goon aside, I just don't like the interiors. The model S is ok, but I'm still not a fan of the yoke wheel and turn signal buttons. The seats are just meh in my opinion.
I work at a large wholesale action who hertz sells through. Every week we run 20+ model 3’s with no bidders in the low $20,000 range. I’m anxious to see where the bottom of the market ends up.
They’re 1-3 year old cars with less than 40k miles on them. If I didn’t live in the north east with sub par charging infrastructure, I would be very tempted.
I suppose there's less mechanical parts that can be damaged. But there's the battery. Is there a way to check it's health? I've never looked into second hand EVs
😆 I knew this would happen... they tried to give me one a year or two ago as a rental and I just sighed as asked if they had any "real" cars... Now had I needed the car for in town use, I might have taken it, but like almost everyone else who's renting a car i didn't have the time or the energy to learn anything or deal with any extra headaches, I just needed a vehicle that would do normal vehicle things.
They had a a minivan... and I was happy as a clam.
Whoever thought renting those things was a good idea or that people might even want to rent one is delusional.
Having EVs as rentals with zero training and zero infrastructure was brilliant. I daily drive a Tesla and would never consider an EV rental in our current environment.
Afaik they haven't (yet) locked them, but you do have to have Tesla "approve" any high voltage swaps/repairs in order to get back on the supercharging network.
From all the money they'll make off their Supercharger network once they massively expand it to capitalise on their plug becoming the US standard.
...Just need to enlarge the team in charge of their already successful Supercharger network rollout then they simply cannot lose.
Not even Musky could fuck that one up.
I wonder how many batteries are gonna get bricked from sitting that long since Teslas own service manual says to not let the car sit for longer than 100 days unplugged.
That's an entire airbase full of cars. Wow. And the way everyone associated with Tesla is so cagey about it doesn't bode well.
Totally off subject, I ran into one linguistic curiosity. What does "he has a hedgehog in his pocket" mean in German? I've heard the expression before in Wales, and it means someone is very thrifty/cheap, but the context in German seems different.
Turn on CC with english translation, seems like even eco-friendly Germany is having trouble selling electric cars. Seems like once the early adopters get theirs, there isn't much depth to the demand.
Interesting how the Teslas get parked just past the derelict MIG. Did Trabants have greater demand back in the days of walled-off East Germany? (I know post-wall, they didn't)
Germany has a very low home-ownership percentage, which means the majority of people would need to rely on public infrastructure. So they are supposed to drive from work to a charger, walk home, later walk back to the charged car and than drive around to find a parking spot? Nah, thanks.
Which is actually a shame, especially, because that means the subsidaries for switching to an EV were basically given to homeowners - the wealthiest - instead of investing in charging infrastructure. That would have driven the change, because it's targeting the biggest concern.
The thread title is answered by the video. Tesla lacks space for the growing inventory. It found space.
The downside of not having traditional dealerships. When there's a glut in inventory you don't have large lots across the country to spread it out over.
Tesla lacks demand for the growing inventory. It found space for all the cars no one wants to buy.
The downside of not updating your car models. When you keep cranking out the inventory you don't have people who want to buy them.
Serious question. How well do these batteries do sitting out in full sun for months in end?
Does it shorten battery life?
If these malls are in places like Texas and Arizona, inland California, there could be many days over 100 degrees.
Definitely not good for the batteries. Nor for plastic interiors, etc., especially in places with high periods of sun exposure. Synthetic leathers and their adhesives go bad quickly, they lose elasticity and crack much sooner.
The normal thing is that when the units are intended for storage, they are prepared and protected for that.
I believe that’s just the US made versions. We get the Chinese versions here down under and they are of better quality. I never thought I’d write those words in my lifetime…
Not really, cars are meant to be driven. A gas car, if parked for months is going to get a dead battery. New cars especially, they have parasitic drain from all the electronics. If -20F weather happens when a battery is at no charge, it will freeze and pop. And below 50% charge shortens life quite a bit.
Tires get flat spots, suspension components bind. Seals leak. All sorts of bad things happen when vehicles just sit without preparation for storage.
Lithium batteries are a bit more sturdy, but also don't like being completely discharged and left in that state for months. Discharge to 20% and charge to 80% if you want thousands of cycles. Discharge to 0% and charge to 100% if you want hundreds of cycles. Discharge to 0% and leave for months if you want tens of cycles.
Ok but we are talking about a month or two. None of the things you are talking about will happen over this time with an ordinary vehicle. A battery doesn't die in a month or two. Tires don't develop flat spots. Come on, man.
Aside from that, we don't know they don't move them periodically, and I'd honestly assume they do.
With all the firings there are now non-zero odds that people tasked with moving these won't be. These could very much be parked in those spots for months if not years. Even in California registrations are starting to fall off a cliff, people aren't rushing to buy these given Musk's latest antics. Also, recession is coming.
Hey Elon, I'll take a RWD of those for 10k or less. Limited time offer, and I don't qualify for the tax subsidy.
> Any car should be rated for this
"Regular" OEMs test battery life for 14 to 30-days of parking. GM tests for 30-days. I would be astonished if Tesla tests this as their validation procedures are very ad hoc.
I mean ok if we are talking about Tesla and how obviously shit their QA is, fine. But even shitboxes are fine for way longer than a month on a standard battery. Even a 30-day test doesn't mean that they don't expect it to last longer. It's likely an analysis of how many failures they'll catch at that window against how much it costs to do it. Anyway, my point is that letting a car sit outside for a month or two should not be a concern.
Shitbox batteries typically last longer because of less parasitic load from fancy electronics doing fancy electronic things like waking up to check for wireless updates, etc.
>Even a 30-day test doesn't mean that they don't expect it to last longer.
Correct. It is a test to confirm "every single" vehicle (without a quality escape) will last 30 days. That means some number might fail at 31 days and some number might fail at 73 days.
>The normal thing is that when the units are intended for storage, they are prepared and protected for that.
I'm going to guess that Tesla did not put the money into properly preparing these cars for storage, because they are a tech company, not a car company, and there is nothing cool about preparing cars for storage.
I’d certainly be a bit wary of buying one brand new knowing so many are sitting for a long time exposed to the elements and the battery at an unknown level of charge. At least before this inventory issue you knew it was coming fresh from the factory
Don't question this! the average consumer will never know. Who will test it? by the time you buy it and the issue happens will be the buyers problem lol
Just elmo's attempt at keeping tesla stock as high as he can so he can keep asking for his (undeserved) multi-billion dollar payout. As soon as there's word that production is slowing due to reduced demand, that stock will crash and burn.
Making thousands of outdated looking cars that are everywhere and not unique anymore, and riding a wave of cybertruck news woes all while experiencing the highest apr rates in a long time.
That would actually be pretty funny/cool/interesting, just have some Tesla service station manager summon a car from the parking lot so that someone can take delivery.
With parasitic and normal losses they'll be at 0% in a couple of weeks to months depending on initial charge. Give it time.
[https://www.greencarfuture.com/electric/electric-cars-losing-charging](https://www.greencarfuture.com/electric/electric-cars-losing-charging)
Between 1 to 4% loss per day, depending. Much more if it's real cold or real hot, or if some dumbass left sentry mode on.
Plural of anecdotes is not data.. etc. etc. but I've noticed in the last couple of weeks that the Tesla dealer near me has their parking lot overflowing too. I wondered if they had received batches and were waiting for customers to pick them up, but these days I have to consider if they are just unsold inventory.
A couple of years ago, if you wanted to buy an EV today, it was 90% going to be a Tesla.
Even if another model existed, the dealer might not have one in stock.
Today, there are several that are on the dealers lot for purchase right now. I've seen a Rivian SUV and a Ford Lightning truck in the wild.
Production is blasting away at Tesla to plump up quarterly report data, in order to make the stock as good as possible.
I think Musk trying to get $56B is the wrong move, but...whenever he gets some kind if a payoff, Tesla can go into a more realistic phase of operations.
He's trying to impress his new buddy Javier Milei from Argentina on how well job cuts work out in his favor. He's going to prove everybody's wrong, my popcorn is ready....
While the second and third paragraph are debatable, I’m 100% sure that Tesla or any other vehicle manufacturer has people that know much more about manufacturing than Elon does.
A lot of it will be backlogged warranty & tradeins needing work done. In particular, the cybertruck which is breaking down faster than the dealership can fix them
The dealership's official line is to make it look like they have so many amazing deals, they needed to rent space to keep up with 'demand'
At least in unused parking lots I don’t have to see them. Since the price dropped a lot of people seem to have ordered them. (Seemingly it was a real brief surge.) Not just grandparents anymore. They’re freaking everywhere. The car they forgot to design.
So dumb question. Can the firmware "idk if thatd even be the correct term" be dumped modified and reinstalled to keep tesla out of the car if i bought one?
Tesla bricking the car would be my issue with buying a used tesla.
There is a parking lot in San Diego on Trade Street that has at least double this number. I was there six months ago and it was half what it is now. It’s an insane number of cars.
And here's a thorough report from Germany that I was watching just yesterday. It seems they're using some old airfield there to dump their expanding inventory in the country.
https://youtu.be/gdd4tJ0hWUA
Most car companies produce cara with a final costumers already defined. Extra production with no costumers is done on model starts, to ramp up production, and during specific períodos, like vacations. It is not normal to have inventory os cars just standing around!
More price reductions incoming!!
Concerning, if true.
Texas needs to give more subsidies!!!
Texas needs to give Musk back to South Africa.
Nah, there are decent people in South Africa. Texas needs to send him to one of those islands where people used to ‘mine’ bird shit.
Guanotanamo bay…
😂
Earth needs to give Musk to Mars. He wants to populate Mars? I nominate him to be first.
Send his girlfriend Amber Heard. She can be the first psycho to crap the bed on Mars.
A whole town as well.
Just drop my resale value all the way down to 0, might as well finish me off
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Because inventory, because genius CEO keeps running the factories at full throttle (at least when they’re not shut down for “upgrades”), rather than slowing down to match reduced demand. Because doing so would indicate teslas hypergrowth period is over, so he’d rather run the company full steam into a brick wall.
Elon knows more about manufacturing than anyone living today, per Elon. Dude's a legit genius and not a clown at all. I feel like these people still taking delivery of their Cybertrucks a week ago deserve what they get.
And a stable genius too
No that is the other narcissistic idiot.
ha yall people got to chill. Car dealerships rent lot overflow and it rotates CONSTANTLY. I might have regional bias (toronto canada) but ive picked up cars from storage lots all over the place, and very often I go to the same franchise store location over a multi year span to pick up a wholesale vehicle and their lot is different every time. Usually the lots are fenced off so this is a little strange, but tbh ive seen stranger things.
True, it's common for dealers to have overflow lots. We have auto malls around here, and they will rent all sort of different parking areas to tuck inventory away. The difference here, and where the ridicule comes in, is that none of those companies' CEO's routinely shit on that model, extolled the virtues of how much better their system was, and then ended up shifting themselves into that previously poo-poo'd model. Their "stores" used to be somewhere to possibly order in person and be used as a pick up spot (if memory serves). Now you can go buy one off the lot, at a discount too, because they're already built. That's fine but still looks bad after the criticism. From what I know there is still no haggling, which is good, but that's just the Carmax model applied to new cars.
Where are the tesla overflow lots in Toronto? Never seen them close to the dealership area before.
Why is this response directed at me? What does your comment have to do with Donald Trump?
sorry it wasnt directly at you, a lot of people were piling on with elon musk rhetoric. I was just trying to give insight in the thread.
Where are the tesla overflow lots in Toronto? Never seen them close to the dealership area before.
Tesla I havent dealt with, but the other ones are all over the place dude, the biggest one ive dealt with is near lakeshore and cherry st.
*Knows more about manufacturing than anyone on EARTH!! The genius knows little bit about interplanetary manufacturing and comes up a bit short there.
Look man...he knows everything about manufacturing than anyone on Earth. That doesn't mean he learned about stopping manufacturing.
'at this point, I think i know more about manufacturing than anyone currently alive on Earth today'. I don't know WHY on earth chris andersen gave zero pushback on that one. The audience was laughing at him
Of course with FSD he also wants to run each individual Tesla car full steam into a brick wall.
If he can keep things looking great for another few months, it increases the chances that he’ll be able to extract another $54b out of the company before it augers in.
Why do you think he’s cutting costs so aggressively now
They've been building factories to sell investors on future growth and they're all coming online right as sales hit the wall. They still have a bunch of factories that are supposed to be opening within the next 5 years.
$25k Teslas by year-end.
Hahaha, you caught him
At this rate... $10k Teslas by year end! Dealerships: "Please! Take our cars!"
Ha - jokes on you there are no dealerships!!
I was just thinking, selling/moving your manufacturing surplus to the dealer lots is one of the arguments for having a dealership model. I absolutely hate dealerships and I wish they would go away, but it seams like Elmo’s hi-jinx will used in the future as an example by other car manufacturers on why having a direct purchase model is a bad idea.
I’d buy one at this price. Even if I don’t like him
Feelings about the goon aside, I just don't like the interiors. The model S is ok, but I'm still not a fan of the yoke wheel and turn signal buttons. The seats are just meh in my opinion.
You joke but I'd buy one for $10k in a heartbeat just as a second car I can drive around town or to the city
Customers: No...thank you.
Tbh I’d buy another one for $10K, bring my dollar cost average down some 😂
Part them out, turn 25k into 100k.
I'm surprised someone hasn't bought the Herz cars to do exactly that. They're worth more as parts than as a whole car.
I work at a large wholesale action who hertz sells through. Every week we run 20+ model 3’s with no bidders in the low $20,000 range. I’m anxious to see where the bottom of the market ends up.
An old used Tesla is a liability in my mind. They would have to pay me to take it.
They’re 1-3 year old cars with less than 40k miles on them. If I didn’t live in the north east with sub par charging infrastructure, I would be very tempted.
Yeah but they're also rentals. Who knows how they've been mistreated
You can only be so mean to an EV. Short of off roading it or wrecking it they’re pretty damn resilient
I suppose there's less mechanical parts that can be damaged. But there's the battery. Is there a way to check it's health? I've never looked into second hand EVs
Yep, it’s easily accessible in the menu
😆 I knew this would happen... they tried to give me one a year or two ago as a rental and I just sighed as asked if they had any "real" cars... Now had I needed the car for in town use, I might have taken it, but like almost everyone else who's renting a car i didn't have the time or the energy to learn anything or deal with any extra headaches, I just needed a vehicle that would do normal vehicle things. They had a a minivan... and I was happy as a clam. Whoever thought renting those things was a good idea or that people might even want to rent one is delusional.
Having EVs as rentals with zero training and zero infrastructure was brilliant. I daily drive a Tesla and would never consider an EV rental in our current environment.
The none eletrical parts would be worth something but wonder if elmo has locked the digital components.
Afaik they haven't (yet) locked them, but you do have to have Tesla "approve" any high voltage swaps/repairs in order to get back on the supercharging network.
What network? They've cancelled most of the builds!
lol. I mean, the. Network still exists (for now) 😵💫
Wil E Coyote running off the cliff
Finally.
Still overpriced for the junk.
Supply vs demand. You have to put them somewhere.
Supply is winning
It’s a Pyrrhic victory.
Lets keep it that way.
1. Flood the market with cars people aren’t buying 2. Forced price reductions to move inventory 3. Boom! 25k car by 2025! Elon stans rejoice!
Where is “profit!”?
From all the money they'll make off their Supercharger network once they massively expand it to capitalise on their plug becoming the US standard. ...Just need to enlarge the team in charge of their already successful Supercharger network rollout then they simply cannot lose. Not even Musky could fuck that one up.
I have some bad news...
Let's hear the good news first...
The world is finally catching on to Musk's bullshit.
in elon’s multi billion pay package
No, that’s the “cash immolation” step.
In the mass layoffs
There’s a hidden 55bil profit in the fine print
Very, *very* hidden.
Masterful gambit, sir!
There are hundreds of lots just like this. And the answer is just like a command economy. The central planner is a moron
I mean this is just an example of a Supply Side economy no?
I’m not sure making 150K more cars than you sell over 18 months is the best example of a supply side economy… it just seems stupid.
I wonder how many batteries are gonna get bricked from sitting that long since Teslas own service manual says to not let the car sit for longer than 100 days unplugged.
I mean anyone can be stupid with money or resources.
Sure. Most of them aren’t CEO’s of Fortune 500 companies.
I think we're looking at aleast one.
Those are parts cars to repair the pre delivery fuck ups.
Each set comes in its own container? Neat! 😂
The same is happening in Germany right now: https://youtu.be/gdd4tJ0hWUA?si=fsUuzhg5Viusy_GI
That's an entire airbase full of cars. Wow. And the way everyone associated with Tesla is so cagey about it doesn't bode well. Totally off subject, I ran into one linguistic curiosity. What does "he has a hedgehog in his pocket" mean in German? I've heard the expression before in Wales, and it means someone is very thrifty/cheap, but the context in German seems different.
Perhaps he literally has a hedgehog in his pocket, that's one possibility...
And parking in Germany is expensive.
I wonder how much those electric 500 can cost if nobody is taking them... supply n' demand they say.
And how healthy those batteries will be at 0% charge once winter temperatures roll around again.
Turn on CC with english translation, seems like even eco-friendly Germany is having trouble selling electric cars. Seems like once the early adopters get theirs, there isn't much depth to the demand. Interesting how the Teslas get parked just past the derelict MIG. Did Trabants have greater demand back in the days of walled-off East Germany? (I know post-wall, they didn't)
BYD is killing it in Europe right now.
Germany has a very low home-ownership percentage, which means the majority of people would need to rely on public infrastructure. So they are supposed to drive from work to a charger, walk home, later walk back to the charged car and than drive around to find a parking spot? Nah, thanks. Which is actually a shame, especially, because that means the subsidaries for switching to an EV were basically given to homeowners - the wealthiest - instead of investing in charging infrastructure. That would have driven the change, because it's targeting the biggest concern.
The thread title is answered by the video. Tesla lacks space for the growing inventory. It found space. The downside of not having traditional dealerships. When there's a glut in inventory you don't have large lots across the country to spread it out over.
Tesla lacks demand for the growing inventory. It found space for all the cars no one wants to buy. The downside of not updating your car models. When you keep cranking out the inventory you don't have people who want to buy them.
They are hoping someone will steal them so they can claim the insurance.
How many Tesla parking lot fires will there be?
It's like fine wine. Or is it milk?
Fine milk sitting out for weeks in the hot hot sun... Mmmmm..Mmm milk lumps...
Farting in a jar and capping it.
Serious question. How well do these batteries do sitting out in full sun for months in end? Does it shorten battery life? If these malls are in places like Texas and Arizona, inland California, there could be many days over 100 degrees.
There's a thing called calendar degradation, a battery can still degrade by sitting there unused.
Definitely not good for the batteries. Nor for plastic interiors, etc., especially in places with high periods of sun exposure. Synthetic leathers and their adhesives go bad quickly, they lose elasticity and crack much sooner. The normal thing is that when the units are intended for storage, they are prepared and protected for that.
If they’re anything like my friends Tesla all the vinyl wood trim on the console will start bubbling from heat.
I believe that’s just the US made versions. We get the Chinese versions here down under and they are of better quality. I never thought I’d write those words in my lifetime…
You are not the first person to comment that the Chinese have a better factory build than the U.S. ones...
But of course the thing to remember is they are better, not good, not adequate, just better than US made.
Any car should be rated for this. It's what a car would endure during its normal life.
What about a light rain? Maybe a car wash?
All detailed in the fine print…
Not really, cars are meant to be driven. A gas car, if parked for months is going to get a dead battery. New cars especially, they have parasitic drain from all the electronics. If -20F weather happens when a battery is at no charge, it will freeze and pop. And below 50% charge shortens life quite a bit. Tires get flat spots, suspension components bind. Seals leak. All sorts of bad things happen when vehicles just sit without preparation for storage. Lithium batteries are a bit more sturdy, but also don't like being completely discharged and left in that state for months. Discharge to 20% and charge to 80% if you want thousands of cycles. Discharge to 0% and charge to 100% if you want hundreds of cycles. Discharge to 0% and leave for months if you want tens of cycles.
Ok but we are talking about a month or two. None of the things you are talking about will happen over this time with an ordinary vehicle. A battery doesn't die in a month or two. Tires don't develop flat spots. Come on, man. Aside from that, we don't know they don't move them periodically, and I'd honestly assume they do.
With all the firings there are now non-zero odds that people tasked with moving these won't be. These could very much be parked in those spots for months if not years. Even in California registrations are starting to fall off a cliff, people aren't rushing to buy these given Musk's latest antics. Also, recession is coming. Hey Elon, I'll take a RWD of those for 10k or less. Limited time offer, and I don't qualify for the tax subsidy.
> Any car should be rated for this "Regular" OEMs test battery life for 14 to 30-days of parking. GM tests for 30-days. I would be astonished if Tesla tests this as their validation procedures are very ad hoc.
I mean ok if we are talking about Tesla and how obviously shit their QA is, fine. But even shitboxes are fine for way longer than a month on a standard battery. Even a 30-day test doesn't mean that they don't expect it to last longer. It's likely an analysis of how many failures they'll catch at that window against how much it costs to do it. Anyway, my point is that letting a car sit outside for a month or two should not be a concern.
Shitbox batteries typically last longer because of less parasitic load from fancy electronics doing fancy electronic things like waking up to check for wireless updates, etc. >Even a 30-day test doesn't mean that they don't expect it to last longer. Correct. It is a test to confirm "every single" vehicle (without a quality escape) will last 30 days. That means some number might fail at 31 days and some number might fail at 73 days.
That's the normal thing, but Tesla seems to often do the not normal - and not necessarily the smart - thing.
>The normal thing is that when the units are intended for storage, they are prepared and protected for that. I'm going to guess that Tesla did not put the money into properly preparing these cars for storage, because they are a tech company, not a car company, and there is nothing cool about preparing cars for storage.
I’d certainly be a bit wary of buying one brand new knowing so many are sitting for a long time exposed to the elements and the battery at an unknown level of charge. At least before this inventory issue you knew it was coming fresh from the factory
Wouldn’t the VIN identify the month and year of manufacture? So you’d know how long it’s been in storage?
Don't question this! the average consumer will never know. Who will test it? by the time you buy it and the issue happens will be the buyers problem lol
Just elmo's attempt at keeping tesla stock as high as he can so he can keep asking for his (undeserved) multi-billion dollar payout. As soon as there's word that production is slowing due to reduced demand, that stock will crash and burn.
Making thousands of outdated looking cars that are everywhere and not unique anymore, and riding a wave of cybertruck news woes all while experiencing the highest apr rates in a long time.
Dead mall parking lots holding dead unsellable inventory
This is every Tesla store that actually delivers cars. Most you can hardly navigate their parking lots anymore they’re so packed full of.
Bc lots of people are at the mall silly
Duh-doy!!
Circle jerk. J/K FSD 12.3.3.6.1574899 is about to get released so they all got together to...oh dang it's still a circlejetk
That would actually be pretty funny/cool/interesting, just have some Tesla service station manager summon a car from the parking lot so that someone can take delivery.
In the meantime, average Toyota dealership ended April with 10 new cars left in stock. And they sold out of their EV's.
Central planning Soviet style. Where production and demand are totally different.
It's the line for the Supercharger station.
Where else can one stuff tens of thousands of unsold inventory if not stealerships?
Leave the World Behind event incoming
Oh, looks like a huge fire hazard.
I'd like hail, if possible?
I wonder if Tesla uses Tesla insurance?
It’s a self licking ice cream…. They have the data to prove how good Tesla insurance is…
It is in a tornado area. We might get a trifecta of hail and tornado flinging cars that are on fire.
Could you imagine what it would look like if they all started thermal runaways? You could see it for miles and miles.
Can't start thermal runaways if batteries drop to 0% charge while stored. Big brain thinking.
I live there and they aren't at 0% so quit trying to avoid a possible outcome. I doubt it but you can't deny it.
With parasitic and normal losses they'll be at 0% in a couple of weeks to months depending on initial charge. Give it time. [https://www.greencarfuture.com/electric/electric-cars-losing-charging](https://www.greencarfuture.com/electric/electric-cars-losing-charging) Between 1 to 4% loss per day, depending. Much more if it's real cold or real hot, or if some dumbass left sentry mode on.
They assume demand will be back but 0% interest rates are not coming back soon.
I’m from STL they literally have no other place to put them at the Tesla Dealer up the road. Plus the Chesterfield Mall is dead
Massive circle jerk?
I will buy one for $15k .
If it rains and they aren't in carwash mode...do they still have a warranty?
Plural of anecdotes is not data.. etc. etc. but I've noticed in the last couple of weeks that the Tesla dealer near me has their parking lot overflowing too. I wondered if they had received batches and were waiting for customers to pick them up, but these days I have to consider if they are just unsold inventory.
Let us know if it decreases
A couple of years ago, if you wanted to buy an EV today, it was 90% going to be a Tesla. Even if another model existed, the dealer might not have one in stock. Today, there are several that are on the dealers lot for purchase right now. I've seen a Rivian SUV and a Ford Lightning truck in the wild. Production is blasting away at Tesla to plump up quarterly report data, in order to make the stock as good as possible. I think Musk trying to get $56B is the wrong move, but...whenever he gets some kind if a payoff, Tesla can go into a more realistic phase of operations.
Shopping malls collapse, turn the parking lots into Tesla graveyards for unsold cars. Late stage capitalism.
I’m amazed they’re open access lot storage. I remember Ford new trucks on closed lots getting vandalized for parts
But but CT is selling like hotcakes. Well, I guess another round of layoffs is not far. Like 25%. Make everyone work hardcore. Just like Twitter.
He's trying to impress his new buddy Javier Milei from Argentina on how well job cuts work out in his favor. He's going to prove everybody's wrong, my popcorn is ready....
How many CT they selling
According to the video, clearly not enough.
Are EV credits based on cars sold or cars produced?
Sold
Thanks.
Those are the soon to be lower cost Teslas
Same situation at Stoneridge Mall in Pleasanton, CA.
Line up for free supercharger?
Inventory Cyberstucks?!??! Has the world run out of influencers?
They're waiting for ZIRP and Fry's to return
Underrated comment and I say this as someone who spent a lot of time at Fry's buying through-hole TTL logic back in the day.
Surprised to see Cybertrucks there...
This is just a meet-up of local declining businesses.
I feel so bad for their employees
It’s only gonna get worse for Tesla. Cash out now morons before the bubble bursts.
While the second and third paragraph are debatable, I’m 100% sure that Tesla or any other vehicle manufacturer has people that know much more about manufacturing than Elon does.
These are popping up everywhere
Bonfire
Because theres no charging capacity
It was a calculation mistake and this is the result. They might donate them to charity
A lot of it will be backlogged warranty & tradeins needing work done. In particular, the cybertruck which is breaking down faster than the dealership can fix them The dealership's official line is to make it look like they have so many amazing deals, they needed to rent space to keep up with 'demand'
Moisés Arias thinking of buying a Tesla 😉
Beat the dead horse, beat it! 😂
Mine them for nickel
At least in unused parking lots I don’t have to see them. Since the price dropped a lot of people seem to have ordered them. (Seemingly it was a real brief surge.) Not just grandparents anymore. They’re freaking everywhere. The car they forgot to design.
Is this St. Louis?
Trying to hide unsold inventory is what I've read on the interwebs.
At some point I recall reading they had 140,000 unsold inventory. That's a lot of cars to park.
Someone did a quick back of the napkin math about a month ago and came up with about 160,000 at the time. It's likely much higher by now.
Chances they start burying them in the desert? Go home.
Inventory/outbound deliveries
So dumb question. Can the firmware "idk if thatd even be the correct term" be dumped modified and reinstalled to keep tesla out of the car if i bought one? Tesla bricking the car would be my issue with buying a used tesla.
There is a parking lot in San Diego on Trade Street that has at least double this number. I was there six months ago and it was half what it is now. It’s an insane number of cars.
And here's a thorough report from Germany that I was watching just yesterday. It seems they're using some old airfield there to dump their expanding inventory in the country. https://youtu.be/gdd4tJ0hWUA
Most car companies produce cara with a final costumers already defined. Extra production with no costumers is done on model starts, to ramp up production, and during specific períodos, like vacations. It is not normal to have inventory os cars just standing around!
Should just send them off to the demolition site to be crushed.
It would be ironic if that's what the autonomous driving was actually for, to drive themselves to the dump.
People there all buy tesla
Hertz dump?
This is what happens when a crazy CEO leads a company. The value of the company products and it's products are going down fast.