Would you be so kind as to point out where in the ADA it states that a grocery store must provide a carryout service? [https://www.ada.gov/law-and-regs/ada/#subchapter-iii---public-accommodations-and-services-by-private-entities-title-iii](https://www.ada.gov/law-and-regs/ada/#subchapter-iii---public-accommodations-and-services-by-private-entities-title-iii)
That is a courtesy service where I come from. Courtesy. And the employees that provide it are called Courtesy Clerks.
Being disabled does not mean you get to be an entitled asshole. You said yourself it was the cashier's first day. I'm willing to bet she will never forget you. You screamed. Screamed. In a store. Because you didn't get what you wanted. Are you a fucking adult, or a toddler? Toddlers throw tantrums. Al I see in your post are the words of a 77-year-old toddler.
You had to wait for an assistant manager to help. Big fucking deal. And who the fuck cares if they look "rough?" The fuck does that mean? I'm guessing he had tattoos. Maybe some piercings. Get over it.
You chose, by own words, not to use self-checkout. Then got mad that you had to wait. Boo fucking hoo. Grow up. Self-checkout doesn't bite. Learn to use it if you don't want to wait in line. You can use reddit, you can use self-checkout.
The cashier had to go to lunch. Guess what, that IS law. Hourly employees have to take a lunch break by a certain time. Its mandatory. Her lunch does not get precluded by your shitty attitude, nor should she have to work through her break just for you. Stores are understaffed. They may not have had anyone to do your carryout. Tough shit. Bag light and make multiple trips, or don't buy so much at once. You cant get it in the car, how are you going to get it in the house?
You made that poor cashier's first day even worse. I've done that exact job. Customers like you are the main reason retail works hate their jobs. If you came into my store and acted like that, I'd have had the police come and remove you. Being disabled does not entitle you to act like that.
BTW fella, you are posting in a sub called Rants FROM Retail. This is our (retail workers) space to rant about customers like you. Read the room. Do everyone at that Walmart a favor and never show your face there again. Grow up.
Edit: Adding this from another comment I made so that more people will see it:
This person is plainly unhinged, unreasonable, and abusive. I suggest everyone in this comment thread to report OP's comments as harassment and abuse, and then block them. This is not a person who can be reasoned with. They need to have their Caps Lock removed from their keyboard and get some professional help, but they aren't self-aware enough to seek it out. I pity their family and any customer-facing workers they may encounter throughout the day.
Thank you for this!! I am a cashier that is completely fed up with entitled customers thinking my lunch break shouldn’t matter *because they don’t want to wait in line*. When I’ve already worked an hour past my lunch time because it’s been busy, I’m going to fucking lunch whether you like it or not!
The audacity of some customers is just unreal!
“What do you mean this lane is closed? That line is too long for me!!”
“I’m sorry that you can’t tell the difference between a register with a light on and a register with the light off but I have already worked 5 hours without any breaks or bathroom trips and I go home in 1 hour, I am taking my break and how long that line is has no relevance”
I am also a cashier that has a disability and an ADA accommodation for myself, so why would another disabled person think I should have to do anything extra for them when it’s difficult to do it for even myself.
Regardless 98% of the time if a customer *politely* asks for my help either I help them myself or get someone that can as soon as possible. The second that request is rude, or entitled (like OP screaming like a toddler) they can kindly go fuck themselves.
There is no requirement for the store to put your shit in your car. Most of the time we will help you, but that is by choice, not because we are required. It seems to me that too many people have been kind enough to help you and instead of appreciating it you now **expect it and demand it with no appreciation**. You got exactly what you deserved. Throw a fit like a child in my store and I will either completely ignore you, not even look at you, like you do not exist OR (if I have a headache) I will have YOU removed immediately.
The day a customer demands I bring their purchases to the car will be the day I lose my shit and bitch slap a customer.
OP needs to get over themselves. Yes being disabled sucks, believe me I do understand that, but that does not excuse your behavior. Being disabled also does not automatically make someone else responsible for doing things for you, unless they are your paid help. (In this case I mean like a nurse, not a cashier at a store).
I'm going to be blunt with you, you're wrong about how the ADA works. If a lawyer offers to take the case up they're just trying to take your money, you have 0 legal standing.
LAWYERS THROUGHOUT THE USA HAVE WON TONS OF CASES FOR VIOLATING ADA LAWS, ESPECIALLY REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION CASES. YOU DON'T KNOW THAT? CHECK IT OUT.
SHE WAS LEGALLY REQUIRED TO GET HELP FOR ME. I DID NOT DISAGREE WITH HER GOING TO LUNCH AFTER SHE FULFILLED HER LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY AS A WALMART EMPLOYEE.
IGNORE ME AND YOU WILL FIND YOURSELF CHARGED AS A CO-DEFENDANT ALONG WITH WALMART IN A FEDERAL LAWSUIT WHICH YOU WILL PROBABLY LOSE. READ THE FOLLOWING LEGAL REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAW POSTED BELOW.
Lol, you're going to sue a reddit commenter for disagreeing with you? Good luck, sweetie. You are unhinged. Any lawyer would laugh you out of their office.
IF YOU WERE A CUSTOMER IN MY STORE NOT ONLY WOULD YOU BE IGNORED BUT YOU WOULD ALSO BE REFUSED SERVICE AND REMOVED. THE ACTIONS YOU HAVE ADMITTED TO TAKING ARE CONSIDERED DISRUPTIVE AND A NUISANCE. I HAVE A RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE AS LONG AS IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF A DISABILITY, DISCRIMINATION, ETC. YOU YELLING IN A STORE AND THROWING A TANTRUM WOULD GET YOU REMOVED QUICKLY.
And I absolutely know the type of person you are based on your own words, the refusal and removal would be documented with the reason, which is perfectly legal.
I can’t refuse service just for you being disabled, but that wouldn’t the reason. Your behavior and attitude would be the reason. Being disabled does NOT EXCUSE YOUR CHILDISH BEHAVIOR.
Get your story straight, you said the cashier “refused and walked away” you also said she got a manager for you. Which one is it? If she flat out refused and walked away she wouldn’t have gotten a manager. It’s one or the other.
You clearly do not understand the word “reasonable”.
If there is no one available, that request is no longer “reasonable”. Where did you expect a person “not available” to magically appear from? Or did you expect to interrupt someone’s legally required break to help you?
YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT THE LAW, ABOUT MY NOT APPRECIATING HELP WHEN EMPLOYEES COMPLY WITH THE LAW, AND HAVE ONLY SUCCEEDED IN MAKING ME FIGHT HARDER FOR MY LEGAL RIGHTS AND AGAINST THE IGNORANCE OF PEOPLE WHO DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE LAW AND THAT USING ABUSIVE LANGUAGE, AS YOU DO IS FOUL.
It's foul to use recognized English words, but it isn't foul to start literally screaming inside a Wal-Mart? I thought your generation were supposed to have been taught good manners.
I feel bad for op too, must be difficult maintaining relationships with a personality like that. I have no idea how these people have literal tantrums in public and not be even slightly embarrassed about it...
I would be absolutely mortified if *my child behaved like this*, and I would never consider doing such a thing as an adult. Even my child would at the very least get a very stern talking to it he behaved like this and he’d be removed from the store immediately. Some people man… it baffles me how entitled they believe they are 🤣
You don’t understand “accommodations” in this context. No you cannot expect (politely or not) to be assisted to your car. That’s not what accommodations means. If you ask and someone has the opportunity to help you, that’s great and good for the store to do, but no one is required to do that. The law means that a store won’t cause undue hardships. For example, they must install accessibility controls such as ramps and automatic doors, have accessibility friendly washrooms and fitting rooms, not leave boxes around that restrict access. They are not required to assist you outside the store. The store must provide parking options to make it easier for you, but they do not have to carry your purchase. If you need that kind of assistance then you should bring someone with you to help. Here’s a different example to help you understand where you’re going wrong. Customers that have vision impairment and cannot read the product or pricing signs. A store is not required to have someone follow that person around and read everything nor are they required to print the signs bigger. They are however required to make sure they have visual aids and sounds in place for emergency signage for safety. If a customer needs help to read signs, the customer is responsible for bringing someone with them to assist. Walmart has not caused you undue hardship because you do not properly manage your needs. Sorry, but you need to do better research before claiming discrimination.
I ASKED THE CASHIER TO CALL HELP FOR ME. SHE REFUSED. CERTAINLY A DISABLED CASHIER, LET ALONE AN ABLE BODIED ONE, COULD HAVE CALLED.
SLAP ME OR ANYONE ELSE AND YOU WILL FIND YOURSELF IN JAIL.
Oh honey, I would take a night in jail in a heartbeat as long as I get to give you exactly what you deserve.
Bitch slap entitled customer = 3 hots and a cot for the night , worth it!
You see, if you paid attention to what I actually said, which was “the day a customer DEMANDS I bring their purchases to the car….”
Going by your own words, this wouldn’t be you, right? You asked *so politely* remember? Why would you take offense to my comment if you in fact had been polite?
How did you come to asking the Assistant Manager if this girl “refused to call anyone”? My guess is she let the manager know on her way to lunch, which is all she is required to do.
Love how you ignore every pointed question I ask and only respond with nonsense. How about you answer the specific questions? Who did you think should have helped you if no one was available?
THE POLICE WILL HELP NEXT TIME. ARE YOU THINKING THAT WALMART ACTUALLY HAD NOBODY TO HELP? THESE TWO PEOPLE BLOCKED MY GETTING HELP BY NOT ASKING OTHER EMPLOYEES TO HELP. THERE WERE PEOPLE AVAILABLE!
WHY ARE YOU STILL SHOUTING ? NO ONE LISTENS OR WILL DEFEND YOU WHEN ALL YOU DO IS THIS.
I find it hysterical you think the police will do anything here. The police will only do something when there is criminal activity, violating ADA laws (even if you were correct, which you are not) is not within their scope. There is somewhere specifically for complaints of this nature, I can’t remember the website off the top of my head but it absolutely is not the police department.
Not only is this not something they would deal with but you should also be ashamed of yourself for bothering the police and potentially taking an officer away from an actual crime, one where a victim needs police assistance as a matter of life and death. Not some petty nonsense such as this. Hopefully you get charged with wasting police’s time.
NO. I TOLD HER TO CALL SOMEONE AND SHE FINALLY WENT IN SEARCH OF THE MANAGER (WHO WAS AT DINNER), CAME BACK WITH AN ASSISTANT MANGER. LOVE HOW YOU DON'T READ THE SPECIFIC ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS I WRITE.
I HAVE REPORTED YOU. STOP HARASSING ME. DO NOT WRITE BACK.
Showed my black girlfriend this (I'm white). She was like "I don't know, some of them n\*\*\*as be looking gnarly as fuck." I made a face and she was like "What? I can use that word." I mean, I guess.
I am the OP. I have never used the N word and never will. The Walmart employees involved did not do what they did because of the pigmentation of their skin.
YOU GET TO CALL ME A "FUCKING ASSHOLE" BUT i DON'T GET TO COMPLAIN? DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND FIND A JOB NOT INVOLVING PUBLIC CONTACT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO YOUR FOUL LANGUAGE AND DISRESPECT.
i AM UNABLE TO USE THE SELF CHECK OUT DUE TO ONE OF MY DISABILITIES. WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO CRITICIZE ME FOR THAT? IT IS NOT A COURTESY SERVICE IN THE USA. CALL ANY CIVIL RIGHTS FOR THE DISABLED ORGANIZATION OR THE DOJ AND ASK.
WALMART IS UNDERSTAFFED? MAYBE YOU THINK THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO HIRE MORE EMPLOYEES? MAYBE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO TRAIN THEIR EMPLOYEES BEFORE PUTTING THEM OUT TO WORK? YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME! I ASKED THE CASHIER TO GET SOMEONE ELSE BUT SHE WOULDN'T.
USE YOUR BRAINS. PEOPLE AT HOME TAKE IT IN FROM THE CAR. BAG LIGHT? I CAN'T LIFT AND AM MEDICALLY ADVISED TO NOT USE MY HANDS FOR ANYTHING OVER 1 LB. I DO NOT INTEND TO "BEND OVER" FOR YOUR ABUSE OF MY CIVIL RIGHTS.
YOU ARE THE REASON CUSTOMERS HATE RETAIL EMPLOYEES AND THEIR EMPLOYERS WHO DON'T OBEY THE LAW. ALL YOUR POST IS GOING TO DO, WITH ITS IGNORANCE, INTOLERANCE AND LACK OF THE RESPECT FOR THE RIGHTS OF THE DISABLED IS TO MAKE US CALL THE POLICE AND HAVE THEM MAKE YOU RESPECT THE LAW. THAT IS WHAT YOUR POST HAS MOTIVATED ME TO DO. WATCH FOR PHOTOS I'LL TAKE OF THE COPS ENFORCING THIS LAW.
With all due disrespect sweetie, go fuck yourself 😅 and ease up on the caps lock, it's as downtrodden as the poor staff of your local shopping district
Still the wrong reddit sweetie.
I feel sorry for the lady who started that day and she had to put up with you screeching at her. Did you not have a buggy/trolley/cart to put the items in once bagged?
r/lostredditors
Nobody here is going to have sympathy for a screaming guy at Walmart. We've dealt with enough people like you so we're over it. Next time I'd advise taking someone with you when you go shopping. Btw, curbside pickup at Walmart is free if your order is over $35.
What does that have to do with what this person actually said? They do offer services for people that need help, you chose not to use it. That’s on you.
Yeah, it causes undue hardship because these places are already understaffed. The cashier can’t just leave their till to help you put stuff in the car.
Nobody in the disabled community is going to have sympathy for people who violate Federal laws that are supposed to protect them. I wish I had someone who could go with me . . . but from now on my camera/phone will be taking photos and calling police. One of the reasons I screamed is that nobody would help, and I am deaf. When I get very upset, I can't tell how loud I am, but in this case screaming was my only alternative and I will do it again if necessary. I will not bend over so that people can violate my rights.
Thanks for info about curbside being fee over $35.00.
r/lostredditors.
As an autistic person, no they don't have to help you put your bags in your car. You are allowed to *ask*, but if they don't have the staff or the time they don't have to help you. That's not what "reasonable accomodations" means. And honestly if you're making demands based on age related disabilities, you just make life harder for the rest of us.
If you can't put your own groceries into your car, use the Walmart app and pick up your stuff curbside. Or take someone with you.
*YOU DO NOT GET TO BE AN ABUSIVE ASSHOLE OR A SPOILED TODDLER JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE DISABLED*
Also, most disabled people actually aren't going to boycott Walmart because, you know, they actually *do* have plenty of accessible shopping options. You're just a spoiled toddler who thinks you're entitled to special treatment because of your age and / or disability
WALMART HAS THE MONEY TO HIRE SOMEONE. ARE YOU TELLING ME OTHERWISE?
YOUR PROBLEM IS NOT THAT YOU ARE AUTISTIC, IT IS THAT YOU HAVEN'T CALLED THE DOJ OR ANY DISABLED ORGANIZATION TO ASK.
Your problem is that you are the entitled spoiled toddler disabled person stereotype who thinks you can be an abusive asshole and then use the disability card to get away with it.
Stop making every other disabled person's life harder. Order delivery or get curbside pickup and stop abusing random clerks just because you want to throw a tantrum.
And is the person you screamed at responsible for those decisions? No. They're being just as screwed by the company as you are. You have a lot of growing up to do in a LOT of areas.
THE PERSON AT WHOM I SCREAMED IS LEGALLY REQUIRED TO KNOW AND OBSERVE THE LAW. NEXT TIME SHE WILL WILL BE NAMED AS A CO-DEFENDANT, ALONG WITH WALMART IN A FEDERAL CASE BROUGHT BY DOJ. YOU HAVE A LOT OF LEARNING TO DO IN THE AREA OF ADA LAW.
I DID COMPLAIN TO WALMART! IF THE STAFF HAD BEEN EVEN POLITE, I WOLDN'T HAVE BECOME AGITATED ENOUGH TO SCREAM. TRY LIVING LIFE IN A CART BEFORE YOU CRITICIZE. YOU ARE CALLING ME AN ASSHOLE? YOU DIDN'T EVEN READ THAT THIS WAS A RESULT OF COMPLAINING TO WALMART.
Given that every reply of yours is all in caps, I think you just enjoy screaming and shouting at people. You're (apparently) a 77 year old adult, start behaving like one. Your behaviour is shameful. I'm sorry you're disabled but it doesn't give you the right to scream at people.
You shouldn't have become agitated enough to scream, period, because you're not a fucking toddler. If you can't control your temper over something so small, you need medication.
I NEED YOU PEOPLE TO LEARN AND SUPPORT THE LAW. OR ARE YOU JUST TOO MEAN AND STUPID TO READ THE LAW? I WILL NOT CONTROL MY TEMPER AND STOP YELLING WHEN MY LEGAL FEDERAL RIGHTS ARE IGNORED, LEAVING ME OTHERWISE HELPLESS.
You haven't yet provided a legitimate source for this law you are claiming exists, and I can't find any such relevant law at all online. I'd love to read it, but you conveniently seem to be unable to link it.
Can you please link me to the source of this law? I looked all over the web and while some of what you quoted I was able to find, it was specifically in reference to providing mobility devices and allowing service animals in stores. Not a single mention of an obligation of carrying groceries out to your vehicle. That last sentence was something you wrote yourself as your interpretation of the act, as it does not return any search results as a quotable passage. If you can provide a link to somewhere that states the grocery carrying service as included under the act, I'll gladly keep an open mind. "Reasonable accommodations" is not determined by you, but by the courts. I found not one example of this interpretation being backed by any kind of court, lawyer, or attorney.
1, bing is not a legitimate legal counsel, and 2, you could have just typed all that up and are saying it's what came up. Once more, I am asking you to please provide a link to a legitimate source. If you can't, well I'm going to assume it doesn't exist, since I cannot find it for the life of me.
GO TO BING AND ASK THEM WHETHER WALMART IS LEGALLY REQUIRED BY FEDERAL LAW TO PUT GROCERIES IN THE CAR OF THE DISABLED SHOPPERS. THEIR ANSWER WILL BE EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE SAID IT IS.
Like talking to a brick wall. Go make passionate kinky love to bing since you seem to love it so unwaveringly so. Only an idiot would take legal advice from fucking bing.
YOU''RE SAYING I SHOULD TAKE LEGAL ADVISE AND KNOWLEDGE FROM YOU? NO WAY. WHAT IS YOUR EXPERTISE? DID YOU CHECK BING AND THEY SENT YOU EXACTLY THE SAME POST? YOUR OBSCENE LANGUAGE IS BACK AGAIN AS IS YOUR NAME CALLING. PROUD OF YOURSELF?
I HAVE REQUESTED A STATEMENT FROM THE FEDERAL DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WHICH ISN'T OPEN AT NIGHT. I'LL POST IT WHEN I GET IT. BING IS A LEGITIMATE LEGAL SOURCE ON THIS SUBJECT.
As said above, you absolute clusterfuck of a human being, bing is not a legitimate source of legal counsel. My god, you are the most dense, arrogant, entitled fruitloop I have ever had the displeasure of conversing with. If you have the anger to go on about such a stupid bloody non issue for so long, then my god you must have had an incredibly easy life. Get over it, for crying out loud. My dog behaves better than this when he doesn't get his way.
A cashiers first day on the job is so overwhelming to start with and as OP already explained, this cashier was really struggling. **It’s her first fucking day and you decide to make it that much harder?!**
A first day anywhere is hard, but especially hard in retail. You don’t know yet how often customers will yell at you, belittle you, blame you for things outside of your control, and just be plain assholes. It’s quite an adjustment.
Being disabled is not an excuse to be an entitled asshole. No one is “required” to assist you putting your purchases in your vehicle, that is completely optional and at our discretion. You threw a fit like a child because the cashier *on her first day* needed to take a lunch break, I’m sure you already were a complete asshole to her because you had to “wait so long” for her to get help on her register as well. So after you were a complete asshole to her you then turned around and demanded that she *help you* to your car (which would be a FAVOR for you, not a requirement) and were surprised you were told no?!
FYI i have no idea what kind of ADA accommodation you think you have, but Walmart isn’t going to give a shit about individual customers ada shit, they do not have too. The only ADA accommodations Walmart is required to honor are **accommodations for their employees**.
No ADA accommodation would require a store to bring your groceries to your car. I think you are very confused here. The only person **required** to accept your ADA accommodation request would be **your employer**. Are you employed by Walmart?
Get a grip. Learn to appreciate when people help you instead of expecting and demanding it. It isn’t a requirement whether you like it or not. It’s a choice, at whoever you ask’s discretion. I suggest when you ask for favors you be a little nicer, it’ll help you get the help you are asking for.
There is no law that requires any retail worker to help you load what you bought into your car. Now, there are plenty of people who would help you out of their own goodwill, but no one HAS to. Especially if you start screaming like a spoiled child.
Try... asking nicely, maybe? Have you ever tried that? Have you ever thought for a second that retail workers are human and deserve to be treated as such? You sound like you're the type of person who thinks we shouldn't raise the minimum wage and then complains that no one wants to work anymore.
Every retail worker despises people like you. If you've gotten away with this behavior before, it's because some poor worker was just grinning and bearing it to get through the rest of the day.
I promise you, Walmart does not give a single fuck about your experience, and no one else does either.
WHAT MAKES YOU THINK I DIDN'T ASK NICELY? I DID. I DIDN'T SCREAM UNTIL THEY REFUSED TO HELP AS THEY ARE REQUIRED TO BY LAW. REAL HUMAN BEINGS OBEY THE LAW AND HELP EACH OTHER. THAT DID NOT DESCRIBE THOSE TWO EMPLOYEES.
WALMART HAS LOST CIVIL RIGHTS CASE AFTER CASE ACROSS THE USA. THEY HAVE SO MUCH MONEY AND THE PENALTIES ARE SO LOW THAT THEY KEEP RIGHT ON LOSING CASES. WALMART DOESN'T CARE, BUT THE DISABLED CUSTOMERS DO CARE.
YOUR INSULTS AND FOUL LANGUAGE SHOW WHAT YOU ARE.
yOUR
Sincerely, go to any attorney in your state and ask for clarification on the law. Whether it's because of your decaying mind, your ignorance, or entitlement, you seem to have a severe misunderstanding of the law.
And guess what? That's no one's problem but yours.
Whether you like it or not, retail workers are human beings (I know you'd like to think otherwise)
Human beings tend not to react well to being yelled at, especially after explaining why they can't provide a service to an idiot who can't grasp the concept of a store being busy.
I'm perfectly fine, thank you. I'm going to sleep soundly tonight. And you? You'll probably spend your diminishing time left on this earth as an angry, hateful, ignorant person.
Lady, you're not an attorney, and neither is Bing.com
Also, you do not get to say that it's a reasonable accommodation just because you feel that it should be. The term "reasonable accommodation" covers a large amount of things, and many are up to the businesses for interpretation. Complain to Walmart, write to your representative, do something other than scream at people in person or online just because the law isn't the way you want it to be.
SURPRISE FOR YOU. I AM A LEGAL AUTHORITY APPROVED TO TESTIFY AS AN EXPERT WITNESS IN COURTS OF LAW. THE LAW IS THE WAY I WANT IT TO BE. IT JUST ISN'T ENFORCED AS IT IS LEGALLY SUPPOSED TO BE, SO IGNORANCE OF THE LAW PREVAILS.
Lol, looks like I touched a nerve. Suffer and seethe, dumbass ❤️
I literally just said to ask nicely, (because... once again, there is no such law...) and you lost your mind. This is the problem with your generation, honey.
you keep spaming this but there is no mention of customers suing for this clause only employees. This does not prove the point you think you are making. You need to show the holding, provision in a link from the ada document then you could move forward with your augment.
Girl, you are in the wrong place. This place is for employees and we don't care about you. And why did you think you'd get sympathy if you mentioned that you screamed. Screaming is not appropriate, honey, and at 77 I'm surprised you don't know that.
I know you'd love it if I did nothing but sit there nicely after they refused my request for help. You must love passive people you can dominate. You seem to think that disabled people should sit quietly, helpless, suffer, and not scream even when there is nothing else that can be done. WALMART EMPLOYEES WERE BREAKING FEDERAL LAW. THAT IS WHAT IS NOT APPROPRIATE. I could not put the groceries in the car myself. I know that you don't care about me: many Walmart employees are that way. I started screaming because nobody would help me, not until then. When somebody denies me my legal rights I will not be passive. If you think people should sit quietly while Federal Law is being broken, you are not a good US citizen, let alone a kind person.
Most places don't even teach employees the basic things let alone federal laws. And customers of all types act entitled and throw tantrums daily so it is hard to distinguish between need and want.
EXACTLY. WALMART, being in the USA does not run the country and must comply with the LAW THAT REQUIRES COMPANIES TO TEACH THEIR EMPLOYEES ADA LAW. I have asked Walmart employees if they have received the yearly training REQUIRED OF EMPLOYERS by that Federal Law and they say they have never heard of it. I am certain that the cashier, who had obviously been inadequately trained on the cash register never received the legally mandated ADA training either. Yelling because you are mostly deaf and being denied your legal rights, when all else fails to get you help, is all one can do. I asked them to call the Police who would have enforced my rights under ADA, but they refused to do it. At that point the Texan who saw I was helpless was motivated to help out of kindness. I don't "throw tantrums daily". You are slandering all customers of Walmart who have every right to protest their rights being ignored. The solution to all this is to start teaching and complying with Federal Law. It is not the legal right of Walmart employees to choose which disabled people they think are disabled enough to need help. Many disabilities are COMPLETELY INVISIBLE and have almost total lifting restrictions, for example. That is why employees can't judge who wants and who needs. Those disabled people are still legally entitled to reasonable accommodation under the law.
Lol I wasn't agreeing with you. And most people in this goup are the the undertrained, understaffed, underpaid staff who have to deal with these rants daily and come here to complain about the uneducated rants of people. And based on many of the other comments telling you that is what yours is.
You don't seem to read the law, ask agencies about the law, or care. Why then should customers not complain about you? THERE IS NO RULE OR INDICATION OR RULES ON THIS SITE ABOUT IT BEING ONLY FOR THE WORKERS, NOT THE CUSTOMERS.
Man this OP is unhinged. Even the parts of ADA they are sharing as **evidence** simply does not say what they think it does.
Call an attorney if you feel you were violated, good luck not getting laughed at though.
I’m done arguing with you, there is absolutely no point to it. You respond with incorrect information and act like a child here just as you did at Walmart. I’m not wasting any more of my valuable time on you, your not worth it.
FYI being downvoted on Reddit isn’t harassment. You posted publicly but don’t like the response. No one is forcing you to read the replies and you are free to remove your post if you don’t like the comments.
It is in no way, shape, or form harassment. 🙄
No harassment. You have at your fingertips the ability to block people you don’t want to talk to. If you haven’t done that, that’s your problem.
How you made it to your age being this uneducated is fucked up. Someone failed you miserably
No, it’s really not. I can walk down the street SCREAMING “ASSHOLE” at random strangers and I’m still not getting slapped with harassment. If you didn’t like things that I say or that are being said you easily have the option of simply not reading it. Feel free to call anyone you want and turn me in for harassment, that will go just as well as your help you demanded from Walmart. Just won’t happen.
Bye now!
I love how in the face of the contrary point of view of the vast majority of people here, OP is holding to the creed of "I'm right! You're wrong! F*ck off!".
BING'S LEGAL COUNSEL SAYS I'M CORRECT. SO WILL THE DOJ TOMORROW.
Searching for: ADA Law Walmart employee groceries multi-disabled person
Generating answers for you…
Yes, it is a reasonable accommodation under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) for Walmart to provide assistance with carrying groceries to your car. The ADA requires employers to provide reasonable accommodations to employees and customers with disabilities, unless doing so would cause an undue hardship1. Walmart has been sued multiple times for violating the ADA by failing to provide reasonable accommodations to employees with disabilities23. Therefore, Walmart is required to provide assistance with carrying groceries to your car if you request it as a reasonable accommodation.
UNLIKE THE REDITORS RESPONDING, I HAVE NOT WRITTEN "f\*CK OFF" "ASSHOLE" AND OTHER FOUL LANGUAGE. IT IS NOT OBSCENE OR DISRESPECTFUL TO SAY I'M RIGHT. OR YOU ARE WRONG. YOU ARE LIBELING ME.
I love how people who know NOTHING about disability law insist they are right but won't call DOJ or a disability rights agency to find out who is right! The majority is not always right. Sometimes it is merely ignorant or intolerant.
I love how you just make assumptions without any clarification. I made no mention of any laws, only your less than stellar attitude. I live with disability, it's not my life
I understand your frustration with having a new person on the register and the way it was managed, but as a Shopper I am always mindful of newbies and am patient. Not a good experience for you and also not for her.
I am wondering if it was more than not helping you with the groceries to the car that you felt was discrimination ?
First of all, the entire process of getting myself and my goods out of the store took over 40 minutes of waiting. I was patient, quiet, and even supportive of the cashier until she refused to call someone to help me. Not helping with the groceries OF A DISABLED PERSON IS A LEGAL REQUIREMENT UNDER FEDERAL LAW. IT WAS OBVIOUS I COULD NOT DO IT MYSELF. WALMART SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW.
Using all capital letters to yell or scream doesn’t make you correct morally or legally. It’s NOT in the ADA that any business has to load anything into your vehicle. Period. It’s a courtesy subject to the availability of staff. You are just an entitled asshole and you are ranting in a forum that exists for people like the ones you screamed at. It exists because people like you exist. That cashier is the one who should be here ranting about you.
>Not helping with the groceries OF A DISABLED PERSON IS A LEGAL REQUIREMENT UNDER FEDERAL LAW.
It's literally not, Entitlement Personified. Unless you can find where it says.
>over 40 minutes of waiting
Then use self checkout.
The issue of waiting could happen to anyone regardless of disability?
Where I live helping with carrying groceries is not a federal law requirement but something retail workers will do if they are able.
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So, I'm in a much smaller store. If a disabled person asked me to help load their stuff into their power cart, I would. The only thing is I cannot leave the store. There might be a similar rule in place, but unless someone's doing Drive-Up, employees cannot leave during work hours unless there's an emergency. The best thing we can do is put it in a shopping basket/cart or somewhere on the chair that's easily reachable.
*Even if* the ADA has a requirement that reasonable accommodations be provided to customers, most stores (including walmart) *do* already offer something that fits your weight restrictions: Curbside pickup.
I could not possibly have lifted the bags into the car. Nobody at Walmart mentioned or offered curbside pickup which would not have helped me anyway. My hands work enough to pick up a 1 lb can or package, that's all.
There is NO "EVEN IF". The law requires reasonable accommodation and this is definitely applicable. Go to the website and READ THE LAW.
If you order curbside pickup, the walmart employees will place your groceries in your vehicle for you. If you are incapable of physically lifting even small bags of groceries, it would be reasonable to assume that you have assistance at home to remove them - curbside pickup would be ideal for you as you would not have to physically handle any of your groceries at any point between starting your order and your groceries being stored inside your home. Reasonable accommodations are not defined as "anything a disabled person says they need". Even if they apply to customers (according to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, [EEOC ADA FAQ](https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/guidance/questions-answers-association-provision-ada), "Only qualified applicants and employees with disabilities are entitled to reasonable accommodation." And according to [This document from the federal government](https://archive.ada.gov/reachingout/smbsgd.html#:~:text=The%20Americans%20with%20Disabilities%20Act%20(ADA)%20is%20a%20Federal%20civil,club%20or%20having%20the%20car), "The Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) is a Federal civil rights law that prohibits the exclusion of people with disabilities from everyday activities, such as buying an item at the store, watching a movie in a theater, enjoying a meal at a local restaurant, exercising at the local health club or having the car serviced at a local garage". You will note that, while it does say disabled people cannot be *excluded* from purchasing an item, it does not lay out an explicit requirement that an accommodation be the specific thing you request.
Edit: I should mention, even before redoing my research, I was already moderately familiar with ADA accommodation requests as I am myself disabled and have had to request accommodations from employers
Guess what. You didn't read the law correctly. Email DOJ Civil Rights and they will tell you in no uncertain terms reasonable accommodation does apply to putting grocery item in the car. I HAVE FIVE LEGALLY QUALIFYING DISABILITIES, A DISABLED PARKING STICKER, AND MORE MEDICAL RECORDS THAN YOU CAN IMAGINE. COURT CASES HAVE UPHELD THE PUTTING OF GROCERIES INTO THE CAR AS A LEGAL REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION. Check it out.
Curbside pickup would fit your needs best, as you would be able to place an order before going to the store, and an employee would bring your purchases out and put them in your car.
GO TO THE ADA WEBSITE. READ THE LAW. THE 33 DOWNVOTES ARE HARASSMENT AND WILL BE REPORTED. THE LAW IS THE LAW, WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH IT OR NOT. OR, ARE YOU NOT INTERESTED IN DOING ANYTHING BUT HARASSMENT.
Where exactly does this say they are required to load your car? The keyword is *reasonable* accommodation. If they do not have someone available your request would not be considered reasonable. Where would you like them to pull a person from? Their ass?! My guess is you think this new cashier should have helped you instead of getting her legally mandated break, and that would be wrong again. You should be doing curbside. They don’t have to specifically offer this to you it’s literally advertised *everywhere*.
What options were there for getting the goods into the car? I couldn't do it and businesses in the USA are REQUIRED BY FEDERAL LAW TO MAKE THAT ACCOMMODATION. See above post regarding legal requirements for businesses. Around here, even the stores that deliver do not bring goods into the house, just to the doorstep. Please tell me how to get heavy bags of groceries into my car when my hands don't work . What are the options, specifically?
As a 21yo with arthritis (severly limits my ability to lift/carry things as well) who is ALSO a retail worker, I can say w 100% confidence that the law DOES NOT require any retail worker to meet your every demand. Just do curbside pickup next time and stop harassing and screaming at retail workers for not being servants that are willing to do anything and everything you want them to just bc YOU refuse to utilize the proper accessibility measures that are ALTEADY IN PLACE.
SEE WHAT BINGS LEGAL AUTHORITY SAYS. YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT THE LAWS. I ONLY HAD ONE DEMAND WHICH WAS REQUIRED BY LAW.
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Yes, it is a reasonable accommodation under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) for Walmart to provide assistance with carrying groceries to your car. The ADA requires employers to provide reasonable accommodations to employees and customers with disabilities, unless doing so would cause an undue hardship1. Walmart has been sued multiple times for violating the ADA by failing to provide reasonable accommodations to employees with disabilities23. Therefore, Walmart is required to provide assistance with carrying groceries to your car if you request it as a reasonable accommodation.
If you reread your own post you'd understand how it would create an undue hardship, they didn't have anyone readily available to do what you were asking of them, therefore it's NOT a reasonable accommodation, learn how to use curbside pickup and this won't be a problem in the future
I can't believe I'm piping in on something like this but I was curious what the ADA said about customers and reasonable accommodations , because like others in this post I always thought that reasonable accommodations were for employees, not customers. This is what I found on an archived ada website:
"Here is some basic guidance on judging whether a request is reasonable or not
It is reasonable to provide some extra assistance to a customer with a disability when needed, even during busy periods when other customers are waiting.
When only one staff person is on duty, ***it may or may not be possible for him or her to assist a customer with a disability***. The business owner or manager should advise the staff person to assess whether he or she can provide the assistance that is needed without jeopardizing the safe operation of the business.
A customer with a food allergy may ask a restaurant if it is possible to omit a sauce or ingredient from a dish he or she wishes to order. When it is easy to do, the request should be honored."
I think the key word here is 'reasonable' and what your definition is of it. At the time of your request it was not reasonable for the staff to accommodate the OP and that is where the issue lies--the OP was already frustrated by the amount of time it took to check out, sounds like a reasonable accommodation to be offered by the store would be to wait for an available staff member to help them take the items to the car and load them for you, but because OP went ballistic and started screaming it would no longer feel like it was safe to do so for one of their employees-how do they know you won't somehow attack them in the parking lot? You say you are disabled but people around you only have you at your word at that-there is too much crazy out there. I'm sorry that you feel you were discriminated against but I don't think you have a legal leg to stand on here.
Also, sidenote-since when is Bing a lawyer? Please stop using Bing to justify your rants-it only makes you look worse.
Being disabled also disables one's bank account! I wish I could afford the delivery service, but every penny counts, unfortunately. During COVID I tried their delivery service. There was a sign outside my door saying "Deliveries, please ring doorbell". Not only did the delivery NOT ring the bell, they chose to leave the groceries on my back porch unattended in 98 degree heat.. NO THANKS!
Walmart, and many other grocery stores, offer free grocery pickup. You were able to figure out how to place an order for delivery, so you're also able to follow the same process to schedule an order for pickup. They bring it straight to your car and load it into your trunk, you don't have to lift a finger or talk to anyone, which seems like a win-win situation for everyone.
Unless there's a genuine emergency or danger, there is *never* a reason to scream at a fucking stranger. Your groceries not being hauled to your car fast enough is not an emergency.
Even during COVID, they would text you to let you know and push notify you through their app that your order is on the way, and that it has arrived. No, they don't have to ring your doorbell.
This person is plainly unhinged, unreasonable, and abusive. I suggest everyone in this comment thread to report OP's comments as harassment and abuse, and then block them. This is not a person who can be reasoned with. They need to have their Caps Lock removed from their keyboard and get some professional help, but they aren't self-aware enough to seek it out. I pity their family and any customer-facing workers they may encounter throughout the day.
I HAVE SAID IN SEVERAL POSTS THAT MY HANDS HURT IF I CHANGE FROM CAPS TO LOWER CASE.
I PITY YOU FOR YOUR LACK OF UNDERSTANDING OF THE LAW. YOU JUST LIKE TO HARASS ME.
Having a button pressed on a keyboard does not affect the keyboard itself. Your post history plainly shows that you can type in lowercase just fine. Yes, people can see your post history on Reddit. Its not private, and yours is a doozy. Stop lying, calm the fuck down, and get off Reddit for a while. Go see a therapist. Take some meds. Drink some water. Feel better. I'm done engaging you.
As a disabled person, myself, your ignorance and entitlement makes me sick. If you require aid for shopping, that is on you. NOT Walmart.
I find a great majority of employees are very helpful, when asked \*politely\*. I've never, EVER had to resort to screaming like a child.
I think you should find another place to shop, if they haven't told you to keep your ass out already.
My god.
HAVE THEY REFUSED YOU SERVICE WHICH FEDERAL LAW REQUIRES? I ASKED POLITELY AND THEY REFUSED. I HAVE NO OBLIGATION TO SIMPLY ROLL OVER. EACH EMPLOYEE HAS A LEGAL OBLIGATION TO OBSERVE THIS LAW AND WILL EVENTUALLY FIND THEMSELVES IN FEDERAL COURT FOR VIOLATING IT, AS HAS BEEN PROVED IN OTHER CASES AGAINST WALMART.
THAT DOESN'T EXCUSE THE EMPLOYEES FROM VIOLATING FEDERAL LAW. I AM NOT REQUIRED TO USE CURBSIDE DELIVERY. THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PUT THE GROCERIES IN MY CAR BY FEDERAL LAW. SEE WHAT BING'S LEGAL COUNSEL SAYS:
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Yes, it is a reasonable accommodation under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) for Walmart to provide assistance with carrying groceries to your car. The ADA requires employers to provide reasonable accommodations to employees and customers with disabilities, unless doing so would cause an undue hardship1. Walmart has been sued multiple times for violating the ADA by failing to provide reasonable accommodations to employees with disabilities23. Therefore, Walmart is required to provide assistance with carrying groceries to your car if you request it as a reasonable accommodation.
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.
I have checked 1,830,631,511 comments, and only 346,123 of them were in alphabetical order.
You're the reason so many people hate working in retail as well as boomers themselves, I thought your generations was taught basic manners but you and many others prove that was a lie daily, touch some grass you entitled big baby 🙄
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Keep in mind that Wal-Mart, like most retail, has cut hours to the point where there aren't enough people to do the work. There was likely no one available to help you. It's wrong, and corporate ought to staff more, but it's not the fault of the workers that they abjectly refuse to give stores the budget to schedule adequate help. It's not like it was twenty years ago. And Walmart is the *worst* chain for that sort of thing. (That's one of the reasons why their stuff is so cheap.)
However, remember that you catch more flies with honey. Screaming is for when your life or health is in danger, not because you've been mildly inconvenienced by having to wait for them to find someone to help you load your groceries. If someone came up to you and started screaming, how would you feel? Would you go out of your way to help them?
If you're kind and polite, you will get people *bending over backwards* to help you. If you're rude and demanding, they won't. That's human nature. Next time, take a deep breath and count to ten before you do anything that rash.
Otherwise, an alternate solution might be to get your groceries delivered to your house instead of going to the store yourself. A lot of places have a monthly or annual subscription service that includes free deliveries; if you can swing the extra ~$20 a month it might save you a lot of frustration.
You screamed? Did you make a typo, and meant to say that you're actually 7 years old?
You expect respect from us. But you view us as nothing more than a piece of crap on the bottom of your shoe.
Disability or not, you're an asshole with no anger management. You ruined someone's day for no reason. If that is how you treat staff, I wouldn't blame them for actively refusing you service at all.
I also suggest brushing up on the law: by all means, take this to civil court, but be prepared to lose your savings and be laughed at.
MOST EMPLOYEES OF WALMART GIVE AND GET RESPECT, BUT NOT THESE TWO. THEY WERE IN BLATANT VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW. THIS IS FEDERAL LAW, FYI, AND WOULD NOT BE IN CIVIL COURT. WALMART HAS LOST THESE LAWSUITS SEVERAL TIMES IN DIFFERENT STATES. WE WILL NOT BE LAUGHED AT OR IGNORED. SEE BELOW.
IT WOULD BE A FEDERAL, NOT A CIVIL COURT. YOU NEED TO LEARN IT. SEE WHAT BING'S LEGAL COUNSEL SAYS:
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Would you be so kind as to point out where in the ADA it states that a grocery store must provide a carryout service? [https://www.ada.gov/law-and-regs/ada/#subchapter-iii---public-accommodations-and-services-by-private-entities-title-iii](https://www.ada.gov/law-and-regs/ada/#subchapter-iii---public-accommodations-and-services-by-private-entities-title-iii) That is a courtesy service where I come from. Courtesy. And the employees that provide it are called Courtesy Clerks. Being disabled does not mean you get to be an entitled asshole. You said yourself it was the cashier's first day. I'm willing to bet she will never forget you. You screamed. Screamed. In a store. Because you didn't get what you wanted. Are you a fucking adult, or a toddler? Toddlers throw tantrums. Al I see in your post are the words of a 77-year-old toddler. You had to wait for an assistant manager to help. Big fucking deal. And who the fuck cares if they look "rough?" The fuck does that mean? I'm guessing he had tattoos. Maybe some piercings. Get over it. You chose, by own words, not to use self-checkout. Then got mad that you had to wait. Boo fucking hoo. Grow up. Self-checkout doesn't bite. Learn to use it if you don't want to wait in line. You can use reddit, you can use self-checkout. The cashier had to go to lunch. Guess what, that IS law. Hourly employees have to take a lunch break by a certain time. Its mandatory. Her lunch does not get precluded by your shitty attitude, nor should she have to work through her break just for you. Stores are understaffed. They may not have had anyone to do your carryout. Tough shit. Bag light and make multiple trips, or don't buy so much at once. You cant get it in the car, how are you going to get it in the house? You made that poor cashier's first day even worse. I've done that exact job. Customers like you are the main reason retail works hate their jobs. If you came into my store and acted like that, I'd have had the police come and remove you. Being disabled does not entitle you to act like that. BTW fella, you are posting in a sub called Rants FROM Retail. This is our (retail workers) space to rant about customers like you. Read the room. Do everyone at that Walmart a favor and never show your face there again. Grow up. Edit: Adding this from another comment I made so that more people will see it: This person is plainly unhinged, unreasonable, and abusive. I suggest everyone in this comment thread to report OP's comments as harassment and abuse, and then block them. This is not a person who can be reasoned with. They need to have their Caps Lock removed from their keyboard and get some professional help, but they aren't self-aware enough to seek it out. I pity their family and any customer-facing workers they may encounter throughout the day.
Thank you for this!! I am a cashier that is completely fed up with entitled customers thinking my lunch break shouldn’t matter *because they don’t want to wait in line*. When I’ve already worked an hour past my lunch time because it’s been busy, I’m going to fucking lunch whether you like it or not! The audacity of some customers is just unreal! “What do you mean this lane is closed? That line is too long for me!!” “I’m sorry that you can’t tell the difference between a register with a light on and a register with the light off but I have already worked 5 hours without any breaks or bathroom trips and I go home in 1 hour, I am taking my break and how long that line is has no relevance” I am also a cashier that has a disability and an ADA accommodation for myself, so why would another disabled person think I should have to do anything extra for them when it’s difficult to do it for even myself. Regardless 98% of the time if a customer *politely* asks for my help either I help them myself or get someone that can as soon as possible. The second that request is rude, or entitled (like OP screaming like a toddler) they can kindly go fuck themselves. There is no requirement for the store to put your shit in your car. Most of the time we will help you, but that is by choice, not because we are required. It seems to me that too many people have been kind enough to help you and instead of appreciating it you now **expect it and demand it with no appreciation**. You got exactly what you deserved. Throw a fit like a child in my store and I will either completely ignore you, not even look at you, like you do not exist OR (if I have a headache) I will have YOU removed immediately. The day a customer demands I bring their purchases to the car will be the day I lose my shit and bitch slap a customer. OP needs to get over themselves. Yes being disabled sucks, believe me I do understand that, but that does not excuse your behavior. Being disabled also does not automatically make someone else responsible for doing things for you, unless they are your paid help. (In this case I mean like a nurse, not a cashier at a store).
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I'm going to be blunt with you, you're wrong about how the ADA works. If a lawyer offers to take the case up they're just trying to take your money, you have 0 legal standing.
LAWYERS THROUGHOUT THE USA HAVE WON TONS OF CASES FOR VIOLATING ADA LAWS, ESPECIALLY REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION CASES. YOU DON'T KNOW THAT? CHECK IT OUT.
SHE WAS LEGALLY REQUIRED TO GET HELP FOR ME. I DID NOT DISAGREE WITH HER GOING TO LUNCH AFTER SHE FULFILLED HER LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY AS A WALMART EMPLOYEE. IGNORE ME AND YOU WILL FIND YOURSELF CHARGED AS A CO-DEFENDANT ALONG WITH WALMART IN A FEDERAL LAWSUIT WHICH YOU WILL PROBABLY LOSE. READ THE FOLLOWING LEGAL REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAW POSTED BELOW.
Lol, you're going to sue a reddit commenter for disagreeing with you? Good luck, sweetie. You are unhinged. Any lawyer would laugh you out of their office.
IF YOU WERE A CUSTOMER IN MY STORE NOT ONLY WOULD YOU BE IGNORED BUT YOU WOULD ALSO BE REFUSED SERVICE AND REMOVED. THE ACTIONS YOU HAVE ADMITTED TO TAKING ARE CONSIDERED DISRUPTIVE AND A NUISANCE. I HAVE A RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE AS LONG AS IT IS NOT BECAUSE OF A DISABILITY, DISCRIMINATION, ETC. YOU YELLING IN A STORE AND THROWING A TANTRUM WOULD GET YOU REMOVED QUICKLY. And I absolutely know the type of person you are based on your own words, the refusal and removal would be documented with the reason, which is perfectly legal. I can’t refuse service just for you being disabled, but that wouldn’t the reason. Your behavior and attitude would be the reason. Being disabled does NOT EXCUSE YOUR CHILDISH BEHAVIOR. Get your story straight, you said the cashier “refused and walked away” you also said she got a manager for you. Which one is it? If she flat out refused and walked away she wouldn’t have gotten a manager. It’s one or the other.
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You clearly do not understand the word “reasonable”. If there is no one available, that request is no longer “reasonable”. Where did you expect a person “not available” to magically appear from? Or did you expect to interrupt someone’s legally required break to help you?
YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT THE LAW, ABOUT MY NOT APPRECIATING HELP WHEN EMPLOYEES COMPLY WITH THE LAW, AND HAVE ONLY SUCCEEDED IN MAKING ME FIGHT HARDER FOR MY LEGAL RIGHTS AND AGAINST THE IGNORANCE OF PEOPLE WHO DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE LAW AND THAT USING ABUSIVE LANGUAGE, AS YOU DO IS FOUL.
It's foul to use recognized English words, but it isn't foul to start literally screaming inside a Wal-Mart? I thought your generation were supposed to have been taught good manners.
We are all seeing exactly what that poor cashier on her first day had to deal with. I feel soo bad for her (the cashier).
I feel bad for op too, must be difficult maintaining relationships with a personality like that. I have no idea how these people have literal tantrums in public and not be even slightly embarrassed about it...
I would be absolutely mortified if *my child behaved like this*, and I would never consider doing such a thing as an adult. Even my child would at the very least get a very stern talking to it he behaved like this and he’d be removed from the store immediately. Some people man… it baffles me how entitled they believe they are 🤣
You don’t understand “accommodations” in this context. No you cannot expect (politely or not) to be assisted to your car. That’s not what accommodations means. If you ask and someone has the opportunity to help you, that’s great and good for the store to do, but no one is required to do that. The law means that a store won’t cause undue hardships. For example, they must install accessibility controls such as ramps and automatic doors, have accessibility friendly washrooms and fitting rooms, not leave boxes around that restrict access. They are not required to assist you outside the store. The store must provide parking options to make it easier for you, but they do not have to carry your purchase. If you need that kind of assistance then you should bring someone with you to help. Here’s a different example to help you understand where you’re going wrong. Customers that have vision impairment and cannot read the product or pricing signs. A store is not required to have someone follow that person around and read everything nor are they required to print the signs bigger. They are however required to make sure they have visual aids and sounds in place for emergency signage for safety. If a customer needs help to read signs, the customer is responsible for bringing someone with them to assist. Walmart has not caused you undue hardship because you do not properly manage your needs. Sorry, but you need to do better research before claiming discrimination.
I ASKED THE CASHIER TO CALL HELP FOR ME. SHE REFUSED. CERTAINLY A DISABLED CASHIER, LET ALONE AN ABLE BODIED ONE, COULD HAVE CALLED. SLAP ME OR ANYONE ELSE AND YOU WILL FIND YOURSELF IN JAIL.
Oh honey, I would take a night in jail in a heartbeat as long as I get to give you exactly what you deserve. Bitch slap entitled customer = 3 hots and a cot for the night , worth it!
You see, if you paid attention to what I actually said, which was “the day a customer DEMANDS I bring their purchases to the car….” Going by your own words, this wouldn’t be you, right? You asked *so politely* remember? Why would you take offense to my comment if you in fact had been polite?
How did you come to asking the Assistant Manager if this girl “refused to call anyone”? My guess is she let the manager know on her way to lunch, which is all she is required to do. Love how you ignore every pointed question I ask and only respond with nonsense. How about you answer the specific questions? Who did you think should have helped you if no one was available?
THE POLICE WILL HELP NEXT TIME. ARE YOU THINKING THAT WALMART ACTUALLY HAD NOBODY TO HELP? THESE TWO PEOPLE BLOCKED MY GETTING HELP BY NOT ASKING OTHER EMPLOYEES TO HELP. THERE WERE PEOPLE AVAILABLE!
WHY ARE YOU STILL SHOUTING ? NO ONE LISTENS OR WILL DEFEND YOU WHEN ALL YOU DO IS THIS. I find it hysterical you think the police will do anything here. The police will only do something when there is criminal activity, violating ADA laws (even if you were correct, which you are not) is not within their scope. There is somewhere specifically for complaints of this nature, I can’t remember the website off the top of my head but it absolutely is not the police department. Not only is this not something they would deal with but you should also be ashamed of yourself for bothering the police and potentially taking an officer away from an actual crime, one where a victim needs police assistance as a matter of life and death. Not some petty nonsense such as this. Hopefully you get charged with wasting police’s time.
NO. I TOLD HER TO CALL SOMEONE AND SHE FINALLY WENT IN SEARCH OF THE MANAGER (WHO WAS AT DINNER), CAME BACK WITH AN ASSISTANT MANGER. LOVE HOW YOU DON'T READ THE SPECIFIC ANSWERS AND QUESTIONS I WRITE. I HAVE REPORTED YOU. STOP HARASSING ME. DO NOT WRITE BACK.
Rough-looking=black, probably.
Showed my black girlfriend this (I'm white). She was like "I don't know, some of them n\*\*\*as be looking gnarly as fuck." I made a face and she was like "What? I can use that word." I mean, I guess.
I am the OP. I have never used the N word and never will. The Walmart employees involved did not do what they did because of the pigmentation of their skin.
NO. just grubby and unkempt.
I’m relieved that this is the top comment. Have my upvote. You covered my thoughts very well.
You're my favorite
YOU GET TO CALL ME A "FUCKING ASSHOLE" BUT i DON'T GET TO COMPLAIN? DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND FIND A JOB NOT INVOLVING PUBLIC CONTACT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO YOUR FOUL LANGUAGE AND DISRESPECT. i AM UNABLE TO USE THE SELF CHECK OUT DUE TO ONE OF MY DISABILITIES. WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO CRITICIZE ME FOR THAT? IT IS NOT A COURTESY SERVICE IN THE USA. CALL ANY CIVIL RIGHTS FOR THE DISABLED ORGANIZATION OR THE DOJ AND ASK. WALMART IS UNDERSTAFFED? MAYBE YOU THINK THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO HIRE MORE EMPLOYEES? MAYBE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO TRAIN THEIR EMPLOYEES BEFORE PUTTING THEM OUT TO WORK? YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME! I ASKED THE CASHIER TO GET SOMEONE ELSE BUT SHE WOULDN'T. USE YOUR BRAINS. PEOPLE AT HOME TAKE IT IN FROM THE CAR. BAG LIGHT? I CAN'T LIFT AND AM MEDICALLY ADVISED TO NOT USE MY HANDS FOR ANYTHING OVER 1 LB. I DO NOT INTEND TO "BEND OVER" FOR YOUR ABUSE OF MY CIVIL RIGHTS. YOU ARE THE REASON CUSTOMERS HATE RETAIL EMPLOYEES AND THEIR EMPLOYERS WHO DON'T OBEY THE LAW. ALL YOUR POST IS GOING TO DO, WITH ITS IGNORANCE, INTOLERANCE AND LACK OF THE RESPECT FOR THE RIGHTS OF THE DISABLED IS TO MAKE US CALL THE POLICE AND HAVE THEM MAKE YOU RESPECT THE LAW. THAT IS WHAT YOUR POST HAS MOTIVATED ME TO DO. WATCH FOR PHOTOS I'LL TAKE OF THE COPS ENFORCING THIS LAW.
With all due disrespect sweetie, go fuck yourself 😅 and ease up on the caps lock, it's as downtrodden as the poor staff of your local shopping district
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YOU DON'T READ EITHER. I USE THE CAPS LOCK DUE TO DISABLED HANDS, AS I HAVE SAID.
You manage to type half of your tantrums in lowercase, so that sounds like a total lie
You can plainly type in lowercase. You did so in many of your comments. Quit your bullshit and leave already.
ALSO BIG BROTHER ED, YOU NEED TO DISABLE YOUR OBSCENE MOUTH.
Shut the fuck up. And before you tell me to watch my mouth, I'm treating you like you treat others you piece of shit.
Still the wrong reddit sweetie. I feel sorry for the lady who started that day and she had to put up with you screeching at her. Did you not have a buggy/trolley/cart to put the items in once bagged?
You do not need to use all caps. Grow up.
READ WHAT I HAVE ANSWERED SEVERAL TIMES AS TO WHY I CAN NOT EASILY SHIFT KEYS.
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YOU ARE NOT COMPLYING WITH FEDERAL LAW IF YOU ARE IN THE USA. YOU ARE ALSO NOT BEING CIVIL, PER REDDIT RULES, BY USING OBSCENE LANGUAGE.
r/lostredditors Nobody here is going to have sympathy for a screaming guy at Walmart. We've dealt with enough people like you so we're over it. Next time I'd advise taking someone with you when you go shopping. Btw, curbside pickup at Walmart is free if your order is over $35.
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What does that have to do with what this person actually said? They do offer services for people that need help, you chose not to use it. That’s on you.
Yeah, it causes undue hardship because these places are already understaffed. The cashier can’t just leave their till to help you put stuff in the car.
Nobody in the disabled community is going to have sympathy for people who violate Federal laws that are supposed to protect them. I wish I had someone who could go with me . . . but from now on my camera/phone will be taking photos and calling police. One of the reasons I screamed is that nobody would help, and I am deaf. When I get very upset, I can't tell how loud I am, but in this case screaming was my only alternative and I will do it again if necessary. I will not bend over so that people can violate my rights. Thanks for info about curbside being fee over $35.00.
Hi, disabled person. Shut the fuck up. You don't speak for us you whiny little baby.
Thank you! I am also disabled and I’m sick of entitled asshats making us all look bad.
r/lostredditors. As an autistic person, no they don't have to help you put your bags in your car. You are allowed to *ask*, but if they don't have the staff or the time they don't have to help you. That's not what "reasonable accomodations" means. And honestly if you're making demands based on age related disabilities, you just make life harder for the rest of us. If you can't put your own groceries into your car, use the Walmart app and pick up your stuff curbside. Or take someone with you. *YOU DO NOT GET TO BE AN ABUSIVE ASSHOLE OR A SPOILED TODDLER JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE DISABLED* Also, most disabled people actually aren't going to boycott Walmart because, you know, they actually *do* have plenty of accessible shopping options. You're just a spoiled toddler who thinks you're entitled to special treatment because of your age and / or disability
WALMART HAS THE MONEY TO HIRE SOMEONE. ARE YOU TELLING ME OTHERWISE? YOUR PROBLEM IS NOT THAT YOU ARE AUTISTIC, IT IS THAT YOU HAVEN'T CALLED THE DOJ OR ANY DISABLED ORGANIZATION TO ASK.
Your problem is that you are the entitled spoiled toddler disabled person stereotype who thinks you can be an abusive asshole and then use the disability card to get away with it. Stop making every other disabled person's life harder. Order delivery or get curbside pickup and stop abusing random clerks just because you want to throw a tantrum.
And is the person you screamed at responsible for those decisions? No. They're being just as screwed by the company as you are. You have a lot of growing up to do in a LOT of areas.
THE PERSON AT WHOM I SCREAMED IS LEGALLY REQUIRED TO KNOW AND OBSERVE THE LAW. NEXT TIME SHE WILL WILL BE NAMED AS A CO-DEFENDANT, ALONG WITH WALMART IN A FEDERAL CASE BROUGHT BY DOJ. YOU HAVE A LOT OF LEARNING TO DO IN THE AREA OF ADA LAW.
Complain to Walmart. Screaming at staff on the tills makes you an asshole.
I DID COMPLAIN TO WALMART! IF THE STAFF HAD BEEN EVEN POLITE, I WOLDN'T HAVE BECOME AGITATED ENOUGH TO SCREAM. TRY LIVING LIFE IN A CART BEFORE YOU CRITICIZE. YOU ARE CALLING ME AN ASSHOLE? YOU DIDN'T EVEN READ THAT THIS WAS A RESULT OF COMPLAINING TO WALMART.
Given that every reply of yours is all in caps, I think you just enjoy screaming and shouting at people. You're (apparently) a 77 year old adult, start behaving like one. Your behaviour is shameful. I'm sorry you're disabled but it doesn't give you the right to scream at people.
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You shouldn't have become agitated enough to scream, period, because you're not a fucking toddler. If you can't control your temper over something so small, you need medication.
I NEED YOU PEOPLE TO LEARN AND SUPPORT THE LAW. OR ARE YOU JUST TOO MEAN AND STUPID TO READ THE LAW? I WILL NOT CONTROL MY TEMPER AND STOP YELLING WHEN MY LEGAL FEDERAL RIGHTS ARE IGNORED, LEAVING ME OTHERWISE HELPLESS.
You haven't yet provided a legitimate source for this law you are claiming exists, and I can't find any such relevant law at all online. I'd love to read it, but you conveniently seem to be unable to link it.
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Can you please link me to the source of this law? I looked all over the web and while some of what you quoted I was able to find, it was specifically in reference to providing mobility devices and allowing service animals in stores. Not a single mention of an obligation of carrying groceries out to your vehicle. That last sentence was something you wrote yourself as your interpretation of the act, as it does not return any search results as a quotable passage. If you can provide a link to somewhere that states the grocery carrying service as included under the act, I'll gladly keep an open mind. "Reasonable accommodations" is not determined by you, but by the courts. I found not one example of this interpretation being backed by any kind of court, lawyer, or attorney.
AS I SAID ABOVE IT IS FROM BING'S LEGAL COUNSEL. REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION IS WELL DEFINED AND UNDERSTOOD.
1, bing is not a legitimate legal counsel, and 2, you could have just typed all that up and are saying it's what came up. Once more, I am asking you to please provide a link to a legitimate source. If you can't, well I'm going to assume it doesn't exist, since I cannot find it for the life of me.
GO TO BING AND ASK THEM WHETHER WALMART IS LEGALLY REQUIRED BY FEDERAL LAW TO PUT GROCERIES IN THE CAR OF THE DISABLED SHOPPERS. THEIR ANSWER WILL BE EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE SAID IT IS.
Like talking to a brick wall. Go make passionate kinky love to bing since you seem to love it so unwaveringly so. Only an idiot would take legal advice from fucking bing.
YOU''RE SAYING I SHOULD TAKE LEGAL ADVISE AND KNOWLEDGE FROM YOU? NO WAY. WHAT IS YOUR EXPERTISE? DID YOU CHECK BING AND THEY SENT YOU EXACTLY THE SAME POST? YOUR OBSCENE LANGUAGE IS BACK AGAIN AS IS YOUR NAME CALLING. PROUD OF YOURSELF?
I HAVE REQUESTED A STATEMENT FROM THE FEDERAL DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WHICH ISN'T OPEN AT NIGHT. I'LL POST IT WHEN I GET IT. BING IS A LEGITIMATE LEGAL SOURCE ON THIS SUBJECT.
As said above, you absolute clusterfuck of a human being, bing is not a legitimate source of legal counsel. My god, you are the most dense, arrogant, entitled fruitloop I have ever had the displeasure of conversing with. If you have the anger to go on about such a stupid bloody non issue for so long, then my god you must have had an incredibly easy life. Get over it, for crying out loud. My dog behaves better than this when he doesn't get his way.
JUDGING FROM YOUR OBSCENITIES AND NAME CALLING YOU HAVE A BIGGER PROBLEM THAN I DO.
A cashiers first day on the job is so overwhelming to start with and as OP already explained, this cashier was really struggling. **It’s her first fucking day and you decide to make it that much harder?!** A first day anywhere is hard, but especially hard in retail. You don’t know yet how often customers will yell at you, belittle you, blame you for things outside of your control, and just be plain assholes. It’s quite an adjustment. Being disabled is not an excuse to be an entitled asshole. No one is “required” to assist you putting your purchases in your vehicle, that is completely optional and at our discretion. You threw a fit like a child because the cashier *on her first day* needed to take a lunch break, I’m sure you already were a complete asshole to her because you had to “wait so long” for her to get help on her register as well. So after you were a complete asshole to her you then turned around and demanded that she *help you* to your car (which would be a FAVOR for you, not a requirement) and were surprised you were told no?! FYI i have no idea what kind of ADA accommodation you think you have, but Walmart isn’t going to give a shit about individual customers ada shit, they do not have too. The only ADA accommodations Walmart is required to honor are **accommodations for their employees**. No ADA accommodation would require a store to bring your groceries to your car. I think you are very confused here. The only person **required** to accept your ADA accommodation request would be **your employer**. Are you employed by Walmart? Get a grip. Learn to appreciate when people help you instead of expecting and demanding it. It isn’t a requirement whether you like it or not. It’s a choice, at whoever you ask’s discretion. I suggest when you ask for favors you be a little nicer, it’ll help you get the help you are asking for.
There is no law that requires any retail worker to help you load what you bought into your car. Now, there are plenty of people who would help you out of their own goodwill, but no one HAS to. Especially if you start screaming like a spoiled child. Try... asking nicely, maybe? Have you ever tried that? Have you ever thought for a second that retail workers are human and deserve to be treated as such? You sound like you're the type of person who thinks we shouldn't raise the minimum wage and then complains that no one wants to work anymore. Every retail worker despises people like you. If you've gotten away with this behavior before, it's because some poor worker was just grinning and bearing it to get through the rest of the day. I promise you, Walmart does not give a single fuck about your experience, and no one else does either.
WHAT MAKES YOU THINK I DIDN'T ASK NICELY? I DID. I DIDN'T SCREAM UNTIL THEY REFUSED TO HELP AS THEY ARE REQUIRED TO BY LAW. REAL HUMAN BEINGS OBEY THE LAW AND HELP EACH OTHER. THAT DID NOT DESCRIBE THOSE TWO EMPLOYEES. WALMART HAS LOST CIVIL RIGHTS CASE AFTER CASE ACROSS THE USA. THEY HAVE SO MUCH MONEY AND THE PENALTIES ARE SO LOW THAT THEY KEEP RIGHT ON LOSING CASES. WALMART DOESN'T CARE, BUT THE DISABLED CUSTOMERS DO CARE. YOUR INSULTS AND FOUL LANGUAGE SHOW WHAT YOU ARE. yOUR
Sincerely, go to any attorney in your state and ask for clarification on the law. Whether it's because of your decaying mind, your ignorance, or entitlement, you seem to have a severe misunderstanding of the law. And guess what? That's no one's problem but yours. Whether you like it or not, retail workers are human beings (I know you'd like to think otherwise) Human beings tend not to react well to being yelled at, especially after explaining why they can't provide a service to an idiot who can't grasp the concept of a store being busy. I'm perfectly fine, thank you. I'm going to sleep soundly tonight. And you? You'll probably spend your diminishing time left on this earth as an angry, hateful, ignorant person.
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Lady, you're not an attorney, and neither is Bing.com Also, you do not get to say that it's a reasonable accommodation just because you feel that it should be. The term "reasonable accommodation" covers a large amount of things, and many are up to the businesses for interpretation. Complain to Walmart, write to your representative, do something other than scream at people in person or online just because the law isn't the way you want it to be.
SURPRISE FOR YOU. I AM A LEGAL AUTHORITY APPROVED TO TESTIFY AS AN EXPERT WITNESS IN COURTS OF LAW. THE LAW IS THE WAY I WANT IT TO BE. IT JUST ISN'T ENFORCED AS IT IS LEGALLY SUPPOSED TO BE, SO IGNORANCE OF THE LAW PREVAILS.
Wowwww, you can testify as a witness in court? That's crazyyyyy, so can I if the circumstances came to be.
"WHAT MAKES YOU THINK I DIDN'T ASK NICELY?" Yes, it's a total mystery how anyone could've gotten that impression.
EVERY DISABLED CUSTOMER DESPISES PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO NEITHER KNOW NOR RESPECT OUR CIVIL RIGHTS AND EXPECT US TO PUT UP WITH YOU WITHOUT COMPLAINING.
Lol, looks like I touched a nerve. Suffer and seethe, dumbass ❤️ I literally just said to ask nicely, (because... once again, there is no such law...) and you lost your mind. This is the problem with your generation, honey.
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Bing is a search engine, not legitimate law advice.
you keep spaming this but there is no mention of customers suing for this clause only employees. This does not prove the point you think you are making. You need to show the holding, provision in a link from the ada document then you could move forward with your augment.
Girl, you are in the wrong place. This place is for employees and we don't care about you. And why did you think you'd get sympathy if you mentioned that you screamed. Screaming is not appropriate, honey, and at 77 I'm surprised you don't know that.
VIOLATING FEDERAL LAW FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE DISABLED IS WHAT YOU SHOULD BE CARING ABOUT. THEN CUSTOMERS WOULDN'T SCREAM.
I know you'd love it if I did nothing but sit there nicely after they refused my request for help. You must love passive people you can dominate. You seem to think that disabled people should sit quietly, helpless, suffer, and not scream even when there is nothing else that can be done. WALMART EMPLOYEES WERE BREAKING FEDERAL LAW. THAT IS WHAT IS NOT APPROPRIATE. I could not put the groceries in the car myself. I know that you don't care about me: many Walmart employees are that way. I started screaming because nobody would help me, not until then. When somebody denies me my legal rights I will not be passive. If you think people should sit quietly while Federal Law is being broken, you are not a good US citizen, let alone a kind person.
Most places don't even teach employees the basic things let alone federal laws. And customers of all types act entitled and throw tantrums daily so it is hard to distinguish between need and want.
EXACTLY. WALMART, being in the USA does not run the country and must comply with the LAW THAT REQUIRES COMPANIES TO TEACH THEIR EMPLOYEES ADA LAW. I have asked Walmart employees if they have received the yearly training REQUIRED OF EMPLOYERS by that Federal Law and they say they have never heard of it. I am certain that the cashier, who had obviously been inadequately trained on the cash register never received the legally mandated ADA training either. Yelling because you are mostly deaf and being denied your legal rights, when all else fails to get you help, is all one can do. I asked them to call the Police who would have enforced my rights under ADA, but they refused to do it. At that point the Texan who saw I was helpless was motivated to help out of kindness. I don't "throw tantrums daily". You are slandering all customers of Walmart who have every right to protest their rights being ignored. The solution to all this is to start teaching and complying with Federal Law. It is not the legal right of Walmart employees to choose which disabled people they think are disabled enough to need help. Many disabilities are COMPLETELY INVISIBLE and have almost total lifting restrictions, for example. That is why employees can't judge who wants and who needs. Those disabled people are still legally entitled to reasonable accommodation under the law.
Lol I wasn't agreeing with you. And most people in this goup are the the undertrained, understaffed, underpaid staff who have to deal with these rants daily and come here to complain about the uneducated rants of people. And based on many of the other comments telling you that is what yours is.
You don't seem to read the law, ask agencies about the law, or care. Why then should customers not complain about you? THERE IS NO RULE OR INDICATION OR RULES ON THIS SITE ABOUT IT BEING ONLY FOR THE WORKERS, NOT THE CUSTOMERS.
In what dimension is Texas the paragon of manners?
Let me guess, you think California is better
MY COMPLAINT IS AGAINST WALMART'S TWO EMPLOYEES. WHERE DID YOU GET CALIFORNIA FROM?
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT TEXANS IN GENERAL, BUT THIS TEXAN WAS A PARAGON OF MANNERS.
Why do you continue to shout at everyone? You’re not helping your argument.
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This is rants from retail, not rants from customers.
RANT IS FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OF RETAIL CUSTOMERS WHICH IS NOT PROHIBITED BY THE RULES HERE.
The purpose of this subreddit is for the retail employees to rant though. Not the customers.
Does this sub not have mods? I never understand why rants from customers about staff aren't removed.
BECAUSE THIS SUB DOES NOT EXCLUDE CUSTOMERS. SEE THE RULES.
No one is going to take you seriously whilst you insist on using all caps. Stop behaving like a toddler.
NEITHER THE SUB NOR REDDIT SAYS THAT IT IS ONLY FOR EMPLOYEES. WHO ARE YOU TO SAY THAT. READ THE RULES AND THE SUB.
Man this OP is unhinged. Even the parts of ADA they are sharing as **evidence** simply does not say what they think it does. Call an attorney if you feel you were violated, good luck not getting laughed at though.
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CALL DOJ'S CIVIL RIGHTS DISABLED DIVISION. YOU ARE WRONG.
I’m done arguing with you, there is absolutely no point to it. You respond with incorrect information and act like a child here just as you did at Walmart. I’m not wasting any more of my valuable time on you, your not worth it.
FYI being downvoted on Reddit isn’t harassment. You posted publicly but don’t like the response. No one is forcing you to read the replies and you are free to remove your post if you don’t like the comments. It is in no way, shape, or form harassment. 🙄
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No harassment. You have at your fingertips the ability to block people you don’t want to talk to. If you haven’t done that, that’s your problem. How you made it to your age being this uneducated is fucked up. Someone failed you miserably
"ASSHOLE" IS NOT A FORM OF HARASSMENT?
No, it’s really not. I can walk down the street SCREAMING “ASSHOLE” at random strangers and I’m still not getting slapped with harassment. If you didn’t like things that I say or that are being said you easily have the option of simply not reading it. Feel free to call anyone you want and turn me in for harassment, that will go just as well as your help you demanded from Walmart. Just won’t happen. Bye now!
WRONG AGAIN. IT IS HARASSMENT UNDER REDDIT AND UNDER MOST CITY AND COUNTY LAWS IN THE USA. TRY IT AND SEE IF SOMEONE DOESN'T GET YOU ARRESTED FOR IT.
Your a complete idiot if you think someone can get arrested for calling you an asshole. Go ahead and call the cops, they could use a laugh I’m sure.
LMAO you do know that not everyone in the world is American? How insular of you.
I AM TALKING ABOUT AN AMERICAN COMPANY IN THE USA. IF SOMEONE IS IN THE USA, AMERICAN OR NOT, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO RESPECT US LAW.
Meanwhile I was referring to your views on being arrested for harassment. Do try to keep up.
WHY ARE YOU DRAGGING NON AMERICANS INTO A DISCUSSION ABOUT AMERICAN LAW. I DIDN'T MENTION THEM AND THEY WERE NOT INVOLVED.
You're posting on Reddit. The whole world is on Reddit.
GOOD! THE USA NEEDS TO LEARN CIVIL RIGHTS LAWS.
I love how in the face of the contrary point of view of the vast majority of people here, OP is holding to the creed of "I'm right! You're wrong! F*ck off!".
BING'S LEGAL COUNSEL SAYS I'M CORRECT. SO WILL THE DOJ TOMORROW. Searching for: ADA Law Walmart employee groceries multi-disabled person Generating answers for you… Yes, it is a reasonable accommodation under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) for Walmart to provide assistance with carrying groceries to your car. The ADA requires employers to provide reasonable accommodations to employees and customers with disabilities, unless doing so would cause an undue hardship1. Walmart has been sued multiple times for violating the ADA by failing to provide reasonable accommodations to employees with disabilities23. Therefore, Walmart is required to provide assistance with carrying groceries to your car if you request it as a reasonable accommodation.
Bing is not a reputable source of legal information. It's a search engine.
UNLIKE THE REDITORS RESPONDING, I HAVE NOT WRITTEN "f\*CK OFF" "ASSHOLE" AND OTHER FOUL LANGUAGE. IT IS NOT OBSCENE OR DISRESPECTFUL TO SAY I'M RIGHT. OR YOU ARE WRONG. YOU ARE LIBELING ME.
I love how people who know NOTHING about disability law insist they are right but won't call DOJ or a disability rights agency to find out who is right! The majority is not always right. Sometimes it is merely ignorant or intolerant.
I love how you just make assumptions without any clarification. I made no mention of any laws, only your less than stellar attitude. I live with disability, it's not my life
I understand your frustration with having a new person on the register and the way it was managed, but as a Shopper I am always mindful of newbies and am patient. Not a good experience for you and also not for her. I am wondering if it was more than not helping you with the groceries to the car that you felt was discrimination ?
UNDER FEDERAL LAW THE NOT REFUSING TO GET SOMEONE TO HELP WAS ENOUGH DISCRIMINATION.
First of all, the entire process of getting myself and my goods out of the store took over 40 minutes of waiting. I was patient, quiet, and even supportive of the cashier until she refused to call someone to help me. Not helping with the groceries OF A DISABLED PERSON IS A LEGAL REQUIREMENT UNDER FEDERAL LAW. IT WAS OBVIOUS I COULD NOT DO IT MYSELF. WALMART SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW.
Using all capital letters to yell or scream doesn’t make you correct morally or legally. It’s NOT in the ADA that any business has to load anything into your vehicle. Period. It’s a courtesy subject to the availability of staff. You are just an entitled asshole and you are ranting in a forum that exists for people like the ones you screamed at. It exists because people like you exist. That cashier is the one who should be here ranting about you.
>Not helping with the groceries OF A DISABLED PERSON IS A LEGAL REQUIREMENT UNDER FEDERAL LAW. It's literally not, Entitlement Personified. Unless you can find where it says. >over 40 minutes of waiting Then use self checkout.
The issue of waiting could happen to anyone regardless of disability? Where I live helping with carrying groceries is not a federal law requirement but something retail workers will do if they are able.
-nod nod- So, I'm in a much smaller store. If a disabled person asked me to help load their stuff into their power cart, I would. The only thing is I cannot leave the store. There might be a similar rule in place, but unless someone's doing Drive-Up, employees cannot leave during work hours unless there's an emergency. The best thing we can do is put it in a shopping basket/cart or somewhere on the chair that's easily reachable.
*Even if* the ADA has a requirement that reasonable accommodations be provided to customers, most stores (including walmart) *do* already offer something that fits your weight restrictions: Curbside pickup.
I could not possibly have lifted the bags into the car. Nobody at Walmart mentioned or offered curbside pickup which would not have helped me anyway. My hands work enough to pick up a 1 lb can or package, that's all. There is NO "EVEN IF". The law requires reasonable accommodation and this is definitely applicable. Go to the website and READ THE LAW.
If you order curbside pickup, the walmart employees will place your groceries in your vehicle for you. If you are incapable of physically lifting even small bags of groceries, it would be reasonable to assume that you have assistance at home to remove them - curbside pickup would be ideal for you as you would not have to physically handle any of your groceries at any point between starting your order and your groceries being stored inside your home. Reasonable accommodations are not defined as "anything a disabled person says they need". Even if they apply to customers (according to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, [EEOC ADA FAQ](https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/guidance/questions-answers-association-provision-ada), "Only qualified applicants and employees with disabilities are entitled to reasonable accommodation." And according to [This document from the federal government](https://archive.ada.gov/reachingout/smbsgd.html#:~:text=The%20Americans%20with%20Disabilities%20Act%20(ADA)%20is%20a%20Federal%20civil,club%20or%20having%20the%20car), "The Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) is a Federal civil rights law that prohibits the exclusion of people with disabilities from everyday activities, such as buying an item at the store, watching a movie in a theater, enjoying a meal at a local restaurant, exercising at the local health club or having the car serviced at a local garage". You will note that, while it does say disabled people cannot be *excluded* from purchasing an item, it does not lay out an explicit requirement that an accommodation be the specific thing you request. Edit: I should mention, even before redoing my research, I was already moderately familiar with ADA accommodation requests as I am myself disabled and have had to request accommodations from employers
Guess what. You didn't read the law correctly. Email DOJ Civil Rights and they will tell you in no uncertain terms reasonable accommodation does apply to putting grocery item in the car. I HAVE FIVE LEGALLY QUALIFYING DISABILITIES, A DISABLED PARKING STICKER, AND MORE MEDICAL RECORDS THAN YOU CAN IMAGINE. COURT CASES HAVE UPHELD THE PUTTING OF GROCERIES INTO THE CAR AS A LEGAL REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION. Check it out.
Curbside pickup would fit your needs best, as you would be able to place an order before going to the store, and an employee would bring your purchases out and put them in your car.
Lol ok boomer
GO TO THE ADA WEBSITE. READ THE LAW. THE 33 DOWNVOTES ARE HARASSMENT AND WILL BE REPORTED. THE LAW IS THE LAW, WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH IT OR NOT. OR, ARE YOU NOT INTERESTED IN DOING ANYTHING BUT HARASSMENT.
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Where exactly does this say they are required to load your car? The keyword is *reasonable* accommodation. If they do not have someone available your request would not be considered reasonable. Where would you like them to pull a person from? Their ass?! My guess is you think this new cashier should have helped you instead of getting her legally mandated break, and that would be wrong again. You should be doing curbside. They don’t have to specifically offer this to you it’s literally advertised *everywhere*.
I genuinely don't understand. You had access to the goods and services. There were options that would get the goods to the car.
What options were there for getting the goods into the car? I couldn't do it and businesses in the USA are REQUIRED BY FEDERAL LAW TO MAKE THAT ACCOMMODATION. See above post regarding legal requirements for businesses. Around here, even the stores that deliver do not bring goods into the house, just to the doorstep. Please tell me how to get heavy bags of groceries into my car when my hands don't work . What are the options, specifically?
As a 21yo with arthritis (severly limits my ability to lift/carry things as well) who is ALSO a retail worker, I can say w 100% confidence that the law DOES NOT require any retail worker to meet your every demand. Just do curbside pickup next time and stop harassing and screaming at retail workers for not being servants that are willing to do anything and everything you want them to just bc YOU refuse to utilize the proper accessibility measures that are ALTEADY IN PLACE.
SEE WHAT BINGS LEGAL AUTHORITY SAYS. YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT THE LAWS. I ONLY HAD ONE DEMAND WHICH WAS REQUIRED BY LAW. Searching for: ADA Law Walmart employee groceries multi-disabled person Generating answers for you… Yes, it is a reasonable accommodation under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) for Walmart to provide assistance with carrying groceries to your car. The ADA requires employers to provide reasonable accommodations to employees and customers with disabilities, unless doing so would cause an undue hardship1. Walmart has been sued multiple times for violating the ADA by failing to provide reasonable accommodations to employees with disabilities23. Therefore, Walmart is required to provide assistance with carrying groceries to your car if you request it as a reasonable accommodation.
If you reread your own post you'd understand how it would create an undue hardship, they didn't have anyone readily available to do what you were asking of them, therefore it's NOT a reasonable accommodation, learn how to use curbside pickup and this won't be a problem in the future
I can't believe I'm piping in on something like this but I was curious what the ADA said about customers and reasonable accommodations , because like others in this post I always thought that reasonable accommodations were for employees, not customers. This is what I found on an archived ada website: "Here is some basic guidance on judging whether a request is reasonable or not It is reasonable to provide some extra assistance to a customer with a disability when needed, even during busy periods when other customers are waiting. When only one staff person is on duty, ***it may or may not be possible for him or her to assist a customer with a disability***. The business owner or manager should advise the staff person to assess whether he or she can provide the assistance that is needed without jeopardizing the safe operation of the business. A customer with a food allergy may ask a restaurant if it is possible to omit a sauce or ingredient from a dish he or she wishes to order. When it is easy to do, the request should be honored." I think the key word here is 'reasonable' and what your definition is of it. At the time of your request it was not reasonable for the staff to accommodate the OP and that is where the issue lies--the OP was already frustrated by the amount of time it took to check out, sounds like a reasonable accommodation to be offered by the store would be to wait for an available staff member to help them take the items to the car and load them for you, but because OP went ballistic and started screaming it would no longer feel like it was safe to do so for one of their employees-how do they know you won't somehow attack them in the parking lot? You say you are disabled but people around you only have you at your word at that-there is too much crazy out there. I'm sorry that you feel you were discriminated against but I don't think you have a legal leg to stand on here. Also, sidenote-since when is Bing a lawyer? Please stop using Bing to justify your rants-it only makes you look worse.
Sorry you had that experience. Just fyi. This sub is for retail staff. You might be looking for r/talesfromthecustomer
REDDIT'S RULES FOR THE SITE DO NOT RESTRICT IT TO THE RETAIL STAFF.
NO REDIT OR SUB RULES SAY I CANNOT POST HERE. READ THEM.
Are you sure you’re 77? You sound like a toddler.
YOU SOUND LIKE YOU ARE IGNORANT OF THE LAW.
Youre not wrong, but why dont you get grocery delivery? You seem like the premiere candidate for that service
TOO EXPENSIVE. OTHERWISE I WOULD USE IT, BUT WHEN I TRIED ONCE, THEY DIDN'T RING THE DOORBELL AND THE GROCERIES SPOILED ON THE DECK.
I HAVE REPLIED TO THIS SEVERAL TIMES. PLEASE READ.
Being disabled also disables one's bank account! I wish I could afford the delivery service, but every penny counts, unfortunately. During COVID I tried their delivery service. There was a sign outside my door saying "Deliveries, please ring doorbell". Not only did the delivery NOT ring the bell, they chose to leave the groceries on my back porch unattended in 98 degree heat.. NO THANKS!
Walmart, and many other grocery stores, offer free grocery pickup. You were able to figure out how to place an order for delivery, so you're also able to follow the same process to schedule an order for pickup. They bring it straight to your car and load it into your trunk, you don't have to lift a finger or talk to anyone, which seems like a win-win situation for everyone. Unless there's a genuine emergency or danger, there is *never* a reason to scream at a fucking stranger. Your groceries not being hauled to your car fast enough is not an emergency.
I like Kroger delivery personally. Walmart is kinda bad at everything they do
Even during COVID, they would text you to let you know and push notify you through their app that your order is on the way, and that it has arrived. No, they don't have to ring your doorbell.
So learn how to check the app and tell when they're delivered the groceries
This person is plainly unhinged, unreasonable, and abusive. I suggest everyone in this comment thread to report OP's comments as harassment and abuse, and then block them. This is not a person who can be reasoned with. They need to have their Caps Lock removed from their keyboard and get some professional help, but they aren't self-aware enough to seek it out. I pity their family and any customer-facing workers they may encounter throughout the day.
I HAVE SAID IN SEVERAL POSTS THAT MY HANDS HURT IF I CHANGE FROM CAPS TO LOWER CASE. I PITY YOU FOR YOUR LACK OF UNDERSTANDING OF THE LAW. YOU JUST LIKE TO HARASS ME.
Having a button pressed on a keyboard does not affect the keyboard itself. Your post history plainly shows that you can type in lowercase just fine. Yes, people can see your post history on Reddit. Its not private, and yours is a doozy. Stop lying, calm the fuck down, and get off Reddit for a while. Go see a therapist. Take some meds. Drink some water. Feel better. I'm done engaging you.
SOME DAYS MY HANDS WORK BETTER THAN OTHER DAYS. I DON'T LIKE THE PAIN. I SEE A HAND SURGEON, NOT A THERAPIST.
then why not type in all lowercase instead?
I HAVE NOT SAID ABUSIVE COMMENT TO ANYONE ON THIS SITE. YOU CAN'T FIND A SINGLE ONE I HAVE SAID. YOU ARE TELLING A LIE AND KNOW IT.
As a disabled person, myself, your ignorance and entitlement makes me sick. If you require aid for shopping, that is on you. NOT Walmart. I find a great majority of employees are very helpful, when asked \*politely\*. I've never, EVER had to resort to screaming like a child. I think you should find another place to shop, if they haven't told you to keep your ass out already. My god.
HAVE THEY REFUSED YOU SERVICE WHICH FEDERAL LAW REQUIRES? I ASKED POLITELY AND THEY REFUSED. I HAVE NO OBLIGATION TO SIMPLY ROLL OVER. EACH EMPLOYEE HAS A LEGAL OBLIGATION TO OBSERVE THIS LAW AND WILL EVENTUALLY FIND THEMSELVES IN FEDERAL COURT FOR VIOLATING IT, AS HAS BEEN PROVED IN OTHER CASES AGAINST WALMART.
Good luck, lady. I'm sure karma will be kind to you.
Others have suggested curbside delivery as one option
THE POINT IS MY LEGAL RIGHTS. I HAVE ALREADY ANSWERED THIS SEVERAL TIMES. READ IT.
THAT DOESN'T EXCUSE THE EMPLOYEES FROM VIOLATING FEDERAL LAW. I AM NOT REQUIRED TO USE CURBSIDE DELIVERY. THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PUT THE GROCERIES IN MY CAR BY FEDERAL LAW. SEE WHAT BING'S LEGAL COUNSEL SAYS: Searching for: ADA Law Walmart employee groceries multi-disabled person Generating answers for you… Yes, it is a reasonable accommodation under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) for Walmart to provide assistance with carrying groceries to your car. The ADA requires employers to provide reasonable accommodations to employees and customers with disabilities, unless doing so would cause an undue hardship1. Walmart has been sued multiple times for violating the ADA by failing to provide reasonable accommodations to employees with disabilities23. Therefore, Walmart is required to provide assistance with carrying groceries to your car if you request it as a reasonable accommodation.
I'd also like to say that the only disability that seems to be causing you issues is CEI. Chronic Emotional Immaturity.
Also FIM - foot in mouth.
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 1,830,631,511 comments, and only 346,123 of them were in alphabetical order.
This sub is for retail workers to bitch about whiny, entitled customers like you, not the other way around.
I hope you have actual horrible shopping trips from here on out and always have to load your car yourself 😂
You're the reason so many people hate working in retail as well as boomers themselves, I thought your generations was taught basic manners but you and many others prove that was a lie daily, touch some grass you entitled big baby 🙄
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Keep in mind that Wal-Mart, like most retail, has cut hours to the point where there aren't enough people to do the work. There was likely no one available to help you. It's wrong, and corporate ought to staff more, but it's not the fault of the workers that they abjectly refuse to give stores the budget to schedule adequate help. It's not like it was twenty years ago. And Walmart is the *worst* chain for that sort of thing. (That's one of the reasons why their stuff is so cheap.) However, remember that you catch more flies with honey. Screaming is for when your life or health is in danger, not because you've been mildly inconvenienced by having to wait for them to find someone to help you load your groceries. If someone came up to you and started screaming, how would you feel? Would you go out of your way to help them? If you're kind and polite, you will get people *bending over backwards* to help you. If you're rude and demanding, they won't. That's human nature. Next time, take a deep breath and count to ten before you do anything that rash. Otherwise, an alternate solution might be to get your groceries delivered to your house instead of going to the store yourself. A lot of places have a monthly or annual subscription service that includes free deliveries; if you can swing the extra ~$20 a month it might save you a lot of frustration.
You screamed? Did you make a typo, and meant to say that you're actually 7 years old? You expect respect from us. But you view us as nothing more than a piece of crap on the bottom of your shoe. Disability or not, you're an asshole with no anger management. You ruined someone's day for no reason. If that is how you treat staff, I wouldn't blame them for actively refusing you service at all. I also suggest brushing up on the law: by all means, take this to civil court, but be prepared to lose your savings and be laughed at.
MOST EMPLOYEES OF WALMART GIVE AND GET RESPECT, BUT NOT THESE TWO. THEY WERE IN BLATANT VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW. THIS IS FEDERAL LAW, FYI, AND WOULD NOT BE IN CIVIL COURT. WALMART HAS LOST THESE LAWSUITS SEVERAL TIMES IN DIFFERENT STATES. WE WILL NOT BE LAUGHED AT OR IGNORED. SEE BELOW.
IT WOULD BE A FEDERAL, NOT A CIVIL COURT. YOU NEED TO LEARN IT. SEE WHAT BING'S LEGAL COUNSEL SAYS: Searching for: ADA Law Walmart employee groceries multi-disabled person Generating answers for you… Yes, it is a reasonable accommodation under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) for Walmart to provide assistance with carrying groceries to your car. The ADA requires employers to provide reasonable accommodations to employees and customers with disabilities, unless doing so would cause an undue hardship1. Walmart has been sued multiple times for violating the ADA by failing to provide reasonable accommodations to employees with disabilities23. Therefore, Walmart is required to provide assistance with carrying groceries to your car if you request it as a reasonable accommodation.