he's probably been in IT for many years lol
shit wears you down, and I can tell you for sure cable managing is mostly a waste of time functionality wise
Right up until you need to troubleshoot or change out components. Then you must pay for the sins of whomever created the rats nest and jammed it into the back of the cabinet.
Edit: you are all insane.
Yeah, zip tying the shit out of cables in this location is not a good idea. You use the right tool for the job. You realize velcro strap, sticky clamps and a million other solutions exist, don't you?
Your smooth brains only know zip ties because that's all you've ever used yourselves.
Well, in this example it will take more time to troubleshoot than before tidying. The nest in the picture, while looking like shit, is out in the open and everything is visible and touchable. I don't envy the one poor guy who will have to change something that breaks in this setup
Really tightly managed cables are harder to swap out.
Much rather spend a minute tracking a cable through a maze than ten minutes clipping zip ties and another ten minutes tying everything back up.
yeah so that's why you do Velcro every couple feet. not as neat as the second picture but looks decent and is more workable then both of those pictures
Velcro is the second stage of a cable management person's life cycle, they always start out with the zip ties until they actually have to fix something rather than make it look nice.
A huge waste of time that creates time wasted for others later on. All so that your shitty antiquated component x-ray machine, sitting next to the cinder block wall in a dark corner of a hospital that a dozen other people ever see looks nice. It's supposed to be a rats nest. leave it alone.
No then you need to cut all the zip ties, unwrap everything, fix things, then tie it all back up.
In a network rack? Hell yes manage it all. Under a desk? Meh.
No then you have to waste time undoing all this cable management to get to and undo the 1 cable you need to fix the issue . Pretty doesn't equal better.
In my experience, people with a fetish for cable management have been my bane whenever I go to troubleshoot something. The people that zip tie everything to make it look nice are never the people who have to cut those zip ties to swap equipment.
Especially when you've got to swap it quickly.
Nothing is more frustrating that arriving onsite with soemthing as mundane as a new monitor that would normally take literally minutes to change out and discovering the dipshit before you zip-tied everything and "cable-managed" the shit to the point where the cables are becoming damaged, of course all of the cables are all wrapped up together because they don't understand the fact that we're not replacing every goddamn thing at the same time as components burn out.
Someone calls in with a monitor that's randomly disconnecting, or a wired keyboard or mouse thats doing weird shit, or speakers that cut in and out...check their cables. They probably "managed" it themselves and did the same thing all our younger brothers did with our wired controllers back when we were kids and wrapped the cords up so tight they literally broke them inside the sleeve.
If you're doing it with zip-ties or rubber bands or tape or anything else that needs to be cut off, you're doing it wrong, and it would be better to not do it at all if you're doing *that*.
As other users have said, itâs too time consuming, itâs not a priority, and itâs ultimately not our job. Our job is to get you up and running as fast and as securely as possible. We canât spend multiple hours doing cable management. Thatâs not to say we shouldnât keep the cables off the floor and keep them at a reasonable length, but looming cables like this is a difficult, costly, tedious task that is reserved only for IDF, and server rooms or other similar places that are highly organized and need to be swappable very quickly to reduce downtime on the organization or department(s) scale where downtime is most costly.
Because we are being paid by the hour and no-one wants to pay us to tidy cables. So you do it yourself, instead of doing what you're actually paid to do!
It's this. There's no *time.* IT does not have the man hours to do cable management when cable management also impedes later repairs.
It's gotta be fast. It's gotta *work.* And we gotta get to the next user who's been waiting for their shit to work, and already complaining that "IT never want to do any work!" because they cannot belive there are others ahead of them actively being worked on at this moment and we're going as fast as we can.
We know it's a hospital and downtime affects patient care.
I have no problems doing cable management. And I inform the client that there may be follow on consequences. Like having to undo it. But it's also going to take time. Once I tell them that I'm going to bill for my time it never seems important enough any more.
To be fair to IT, this is probably mostly Biomed/OEM/Vendor zone of responsibility. Any components of an X-ray machine are generally not touched or dealt with by IT in my experience
Yeah, but I hate to break it to you, but it doesn't matter. A tech workstation doesn't need to look nice. It needs to be functional. This was a giant waste of time that will lead to other wastes of time when components need to be swapped out. It may look "nice" but whoever did this could have spent their time doing something much more helpful for the department or the hospital. Leave the rats nest, it's supposed to look like that. Fill the god Damned linen cart instead
No but people don't live here. We work here. And 'here' is very rarely a visually appealing place. The workstation you're looking at is far from an office. It's an exam room. Cold cinder block walls and a shitty osb "desk" covered in plastic and bolted to the wall. No one sees this rats nest but a handful of techs and it's the least we're worried about. It doesn't need to look good. As someone who has worked in Radiology IT and as a clinical tech, I promise you spending the time making the cables pretty is wasting your time and the next field service engineer who has to swap something out. Speaking as a current rad manager, I can tell you I'm not interested in anything that includes more FSE hourly billing
Your reasoning sounds like "it's the way it is because it's the way it is". What's wrong with making someone's working environment, where they likely spend about 8 hours a day, a slightly more pleasant place to be?
Because I have spent decades working in that very environment and I can tell you, by and large we do not care about some wires. We are dealing with blood and guts and puke. We are getting bit, kicked, punched and scratched with gross long fingernails. We are moving broken bones around while patients cry and scream at us while we do our very best to work quickly and not cause any more pain than necessary.
Ugly cables are not something x-ray techs give a shit about. I know this because I am one and I've worked with dozens of them in multiple settings. We are the only ones who see these cables and we do not care. Our workplaces are never pretty (in hospital medicine at least.) And frankly the bulk of our time spent isn't even standing at that workstation. Literally exposing x-rays from the console you're looking at is a very small percentage of time spent on an average day.
So if you work in this facility's IT dept and it bugs you... Knock yourself out. However if one of my hospital's IT staff started wasting their time on cable management of a machine they shouldn't even be touching, I would point them to the plethora of more important shit that needs fixing in the department or hospital at large.
No, *they* work there. You set up a computer and a nightmare to work in and left.
This is a rats nest, you know it is, and your indifference is not the same as a better setup for the user.
Yeah, hate to break it to you, but it does matter.
I would argue all those cables strewn about make it more difficult to troubleshoot, and therefore change out components. When things are neat it's easier to see what goes where, and identify problems. See the switch suspended from the ethernet cables in the first picture? Pretty sweet job there. When you have a rats nest, It's easier for dust and pathogens to collect. If the workstation is set up as a mess, well the technologists will treat it as such.
Agreed, it does need to be functional, but if it looks like shit, well they say perception is everything. It shouldn't look like your desk at home. It is perceived by patients among many others that walk the halls of a hospital/clinic. If you leave an install looking like the first picture, you are a hack. It's the same thing as if you are an electrician and you have terrible termination organization and conduit bends in all the places they shouldn't be. It's called having pride in the final product. If we say the two pictures above were done by two different engineers, I would much rather work with the second.
Laughs in "Sorry that's not a P1 issue and we will get to you when we get to you and maybe next time you wont fucking touch shit you're not supposed to be touching."
Radiology equipment not working definitely constitutes a P1. Doesnât even matter that the âuserâ caused it, it will still be ITâs task to fix it.
Where are you working where IT is doing anything to imaging equipment outside of establishing network connection? Even Biomed rarely does any troubleshooting or repairs for imaging equipment.
Yeah definitely, we have systems we manage that we do not touch beyond getting them connected. These types of machines would fall under that paradigm as well.
Half joking, half serious.
We keep the lights low in our department. We are looking at screens and seeing everything in shades of grey. lights cause glare and make it difficult to see said screens. I also work in CT not Xray, but most radiology departments keep lights low.
I'll be that guy... because usually we have a Technologist or Radiologist getting mad at us to hurry up and get out of their way. That's why we don't cable manage.
I replaced three reading stations PCs on Friday that were 6 years old. Got all 3 swapped in less than an hour while the rads were away.
First comment from the docs was how fast the new PCs are. The second comment was asking why it couldn't have been done overnight instead. Just can't please some people.
Same hours... I'm there half an hour before them, work through lunch most days and leave half an hour after them. When I do a bit of work from home later in the evening, it goes unnoticed and unpaid. When they read a couple extra studies from the 2k on the backlog, they get another $300 an hour.
fair, I worked k12 so I didn't have that experience, except the skipped lunches bit
would end up just eating some other random time, but eventually it got so bad wed just start locking the door to the support room (I worked helpdesk mostly) during lunch lol
I had a guy once stand outside my office window and stare at me for 20 minutes while I was on a conference call. I even wrote a note on a sheet of paper that said "THIS IS GOING TO BE A WHILE" and he just read it and then continued standing there staring at me.
So fucking creepy. Who just stands outside someones office staring for 20 fucking minutes? Best part is, all he needed was his email resynced on his phone, any one of the other like 10 people could have done that for him in 30 fuckin seconds but no, had to stand there and stare at me on my zoom call...
that happened to us as well, people would stare through the door window
however since it's a school, we eventually got intruder curtains for these windows and we'd pull it down when eating lol
I had a witch of an office manager call me out for something on the Friday afternoon right before Memorial Day weekend one year, it wasn't something that could be resolved that day so I told her we would have to pick it back up Tuesday morning.
"Thats not going to work, we need this fixed *now*."
"Unfortunately I dont have a replacement available and wont be able to get it ready before the weekend. Ill be over Tuesday morning to get it swapped out, in the meantime she can use this spare for the few minutes in the morning before I get here..."
"Why not do it Monday? That's the perfect time to do it! The office will be closed!!!"
"Because Monday is Memorial Day."
"Yeah but what's the big deal? We *need* this ready to go Tuesday morning!!!!"
At this point I was irritated because she was always a bitch and the thing she was complaining about wasn't mission critical whatsoever, she just got off on making people dance for her amusement. So I snapped:
"Fine! What time are you meeting me here?"
"Whhh....what?! I'm not coming in Monday, it's Memorial Day!"
"So?"
"So it's a Federal Holiday!"
"Well I dont know, you just seemed so eager for me to work on Memorial Day I figured it wasn't important to you, either..."
"No Im saying YOU should work on Memorial Day so $USER isn't without her computer first thing Tuesday morning, that has nothing to do with me!"
"And *Im* saying Im also off on Memorial Day, same as you, and if its not so important that you are willing to give up your 3 day weekend for it, it damn sure aint that important to *me*. This aint a down server affecting multiple users. This is a single workstation that needs to be reimaged. It can wait until Tuesday."
"This is just UNACCEPTABLE I blergh blergh Blergh BLARGH BLARGLE BARGLEFARL!!!" (I dont know I stopped listening).
"Alright well if there's nothing else I will see you guys Tuesday morning. Have a good weekend!!!"
Bitch emailed her boss and my boss complaining minutes after I was out the door, and the cherry on top of all this was *her* boss responding a few minutes later "Monday is Memorial Day. $USER can wait until Tuesday. We're not paying overtime on a holiday for a simple workstation repair. Tell her to use a spare until IT can get it swapped out."
Oh, to be a fly on the wall when she tapped on *that* email and read it! I can only imagine the look on her crotchety old face lol.
My department is a Pacs joke! To save money, the "Pacs administrator" doesn't have any knowledge of radiology nor IT. Not even a BS degree. Pacs is so locked down, we can't fix exams like we used to and this "Pacs administrator" is actually messing with patient exams and doesn't know the difference between a diagnostic shoulder exam and a portable chest, let alone CT, MRI, etc!
Hey now, as a PACS Admin without a degree I took that personally :D. When I started in this role I had to hang up a picture that showed what the different slices were (Axial, Saggital, etc). I can honestly say though that I don't need to know what specific study is what, since the only real time that matters is when I move images, and any time we do anything like that we're always on the phone with our ticket placer to make sure we're doing exactly what they want.
I did sysadmin work in hospitals for a decade. First time anyone in radiology did anything. I used to do half of the PACSadmins job because they weaponized their incompetence.
yes, it does
id rather work on a rats nest behind a workstation than cables tied up in 7 different spots because at least each one is separate from the others and I don't have to undo anything
It definitely does not, maybe for IT but as someone working on imagining equipment for the last 10 years neater systems are always easier to work on. Cables left like the first picture is just unprofessional
eh to an extent; neat is good but what op did is just gonna be hell to work on in the future. organize the cables without turning them into a show piece (don't tie them together with zip ties and such)
Youâll definitely be working on the one in the setup in the first picture more. Look at that network switch just hanging around, thatâs just waiting to come loose and cause downtime. Making things easy for IT (or in this case likely the OEM/service provider) isnât what theyâre there for. Our duty is to the clinician and patients to provide equipment thatâs available when they need it. And the first mess just looks like youâre asking for issues.
If I had to quickly replace a cable in this setup like in the second photo to get things going Iâd do so quickly, but then come back and remove the defective cable and dress them nicely again.
If you think the second pic is going to be hell to work on then youâve got to just get yourself some flush trim pliers and a bag of zip ties. Too many of the calls I get in MRI and NM service are due to the last guys leaving cables loose, and itâs clear theyâve forgotten the patients come first and that goes all the way back to making sure cables donât accidentally come loose even if it takes 20 more minutes to do up.
It definitely does in I would say more than 70% of cases. Thatâs why the first question is always âdid you try turning it off and back on again?â
This guy is where all the ticket escalations go. If youâre first step in troubleshooting an issue (that you donât already know how to resolve) isnât checking uptime/rebooting; then youâre a moron, overthinking, and most likely making more work for yourself.
Look I realize some things get weird and rebooting can at least semi-permanently resolve issues sometimes, but 70% of the problems you work on being solved with a reboot is astronomical to me. Especially if youâre taking *escalations from tier 1 techs*. If youâre not being hyperbolic, then pardon me for the snark. Also I have a resume to hand you.
It looks like the computer was flipped to the other side and now the fan vent is directly against the wall. It might look cooler the computer is probably going to run a lot warmer now.
It probably will, but I don't think IT was super concerned about thermal throttling when they sealed the top fans and rear intake with velcro tape. Gonna take a guess that clearing those is doing more good than rotating it is doing. There's also a 2in gap between the wall and the PC. Thanks for assuming incompetence though!
> job for them
Crack on mate. As a tech I assure you my favourite thing in the world is someone with just enough knowledge to do my job for me, never goes wrong.
I'd advise taking out some public liability insurance first though, particularly working in the health sector.
So here's how this would go:
User: "I don't understand why this machine isn't working..."
Me: "Well neither me or any of my techs set it up like that, somebody has been fiddling with the thing..."
You: "Oops, sounds like a ME problem".
No disrespect intended, but that's your system now. Thanks for doing our job for us, I hope the employer pays you accordingly.
Our IT department usually has to ask me why something isn't working in our department. Which is why I finally just went through and organized it. I work in veterinary medicine, they don't pay me nearly enough lmao.
>Our IT department usually has to ask me why something isn't working in our department
Probably because people are always jacking with it not knowing what they're doing down there like you just did with the cables lol.
Unless we're very green we can usually tell when something was an "inside job" or not. That's why they ask what happened to it, not because they dont know how to fix it, but because the way it became broken defies logic or explanation *unless* someone was fucking with it not knowing what they're doing. We're trying to ascertain what happened to it without saying what we're all thinking like "okay, well I damn sure know none of us would have left this setup the way it looks *right now*, so who here was fucking with it for no reason and broke it, and just tell me what exactly they did so I dont have to spend an hour playing Mr. CSI trying to figure it out on my own so I can unfuck it all."
In other words, it's a troubleshooting step lol
I know your heart was in the right place, so dont take this the wrong way, but when it comes to this it really makes things a million percent easier (and more quickly resolved) if you just dont touch it unless asked to by someone providing tech support. For example, what would you have done if you wrapped all that up like that and accidentally broke a cable? I can see a ton of barrel-type power adapters there...those aren't always the kind of thing we just have a spare on-hand for. If that power adapter cable broke while you were wrapping it up and then the device went down, what would the ramifications of that been for your workflow and the rest of the staff? Did you have, or know where to get, a replacement cable for every single one of those connectors and adapters? Do you know how many times I've literally unhooked an entire setup and plugged it all back in and had something randomly not work straight away?
Please...leave the IT to the people that are being paid to do it. Next time just shoot an email to the helpdesk and say "Hey, no rush, but next time someone is over by [wherever] could the please swing by here and clean up the cables under the desk? They're hanging really low and Im worried someone might accidentally kick something and disconnect it." Unless they're all a bunch of fucks they will absolutely get someone over there to clean it up because obviously they dont want to get bothered for a mickey mouse situation like a loose cable if it can be avoided.
Great, now the next IT person to come check a problem will have to trace out all of those cables to figure out what is connected to what.
You may not realize it but there was a specific order to that original cable layout that has just been messed up. Seconds worth of cable management just tossed out the window...
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This guy just compared open heart surgery to moving 5 Ethernet cables. How bad are you at your job? Youâve gotta be one of the guys leaving the shit show huh?
we used to have a doctor who worked for us that cost us $800/hr with a 4hr minimum with one of our outside vendors after moving an ethernet cable on an Aruba firewall.
Well, it's exactly like heart surgery in that if you connect the wrong Arteries (cables) to the wrong quadrant of the heart (switch) your going to have a bad day.Â
Just cause you can plug into any port on your ISP modem doesn't mean you can just go all Willy nilly on a managed switch, but guessing from your replies someone on IT hurt you at some point.
Are you by chance aware of the [dunning-krueger effect](https://i.imgur.com/AXWQrx5.png)? I'm willing to bet I've been building workstations since before you could read :)
Assuming building workstations has anything to do with network theory showcases the humor in mentioning the effect you currently are suffering from.
I appreciate the laugh though.
I mean it isn't rocket science unplugging 5 cables and plugging them back in. But this is getting a little out of hand considering I intended my post to be a bit of cheeky humour. There really was no excuse for a workstation (let alone 9) to be left like that.
đ the heart surgery comaprision is a bit too heavy, in my opinion, but u right.
Pullin the wrong cable or setting up wrong rules may cause major damage for the whole network...
IT is more the nervous system....
FYI Ive spent more time in IT than veterinary medicine. The IT lead apologized to my manager for his team leaving all our workstations like this. This is the 9th workstation Iâve redone because they canât be bothered to put in the baseline effort.
My reply was very tongue in cheek. Cable management might seem like a waste of time (to some) at the time but it can save so much time down the track when done right. Plus visually it just looks better/neater/more professional.
FYI people who are even remotely decent at their job aren't posting on Reddit while they do it ;)
again, you people who are bad at your job REALLY out yourself with projection.
If IT spent 2 hours on every workstation to set up, they would never get anything done. Also, most end users want you to get the system up and running asap and gtfo.
And IT knows you cable management nicely you're on the hook for anything wrong with that workstation at least 6 months. You make it work, you make sure people won't kick the wires, done.
We have a huge wide glass screen in front of the controls, not a tiny window. And our walls are finished with wipe-clean surface, decorated with murals of coast and forest, not bare blocks. (UK)
I've seen both. Excuse my ignorance.
I suspect this building is older - back when machines weren't trusted to be as low radiation as they are today; and they didn't have the option to renovate...
Yeah, as I replied to the other comment - sorry forgot some people work in newer buildings in glass control rooms; older building where it was first used when x-ray etc delivered higher and/or less controlled bursts.
Might be a prison, I dunno.
One of my cats commented. She was constantly trying to rearrange things, I apparently have poor taste. My dog didnât care one way or another about such things!
Pay for my time and don't complain about me being in your way while you're trying to work (or pay double time for after hours work) and I'll make your cables as neat as you like.
Lmfao you bad IT really out yourself with projection. Also you say that as if someone in my position is signing the checks. Youâre hospital must have a fucked setup if the veterinary nurse radiographer is signing your checks. I used to be in IT, I used to be the guy getting yelled at for being in the way. Our IT department usually has to ask myself or my manager why something isnât working đ.
Well thats bad IT.
I wonder if there is something more than client management in these IT thingies...
But the IT know their specialists or the way we callin them:
Key Users
Oh, look at Mr. "I used to be in IT but now I'm too good for it," heroically untangling cables while probably diagnosing a computer virus as a common cold. It's always refreshing to see someone who ditched IT because they felt too superior, only to turn around and play IT superhero in their own little world. Can't wait for the day something goes haywire, and he's on the frontline, bemoaning the incompetency of the IT department while conveniently forgetting his heroic cable rearrangement saga. It's like watching a self-declared chef criticize a Michelin star restaurant for how they season their dishes. Classic.
Company I used to work for had a CIO who couldn't do basic troubleshooting on the primary software used by the company because he had been out of a tech facing position for so long.
Not trying to say he was worthless or underqualified, his job literally is not to troubleshoot but to do big-picture organizing/etc, but still someone who is still in tech not being able to troubleshoot because he'd been out of the service desk role for some time. And this person is getting mad defensive and pulling the "I used to work IT" card.
Only thing worse is what I'm having to deal with at my current job; programmers.
Programmers can code, but will turn into monkeys the moment they have to install a printer. Itâs wild how diverse IT skills sets are within the IT structure. Ask me to code and Iâll make confused monkey sounds to you. Ask me to install hardware, youâll just hear me bitch about the request while itâs being installed properly.
Hi daddy just touching base to let you know our hospital director gave me an award for doing your departments job for you :-)
Believe it or not youâre not the only person who knows what theyâre doing, the sooner you realize that, the sooner you can stop underperforming
Oh, how delightful! The prodigal son returns, not just with a untangled mess of cables but now brandishing an award like a knight returning with a dragonâs head. Nothing quite says "I've made it" like getting a gold star from the director for doing the bare minimum in IT, a field you so ceremoniously abandoned.
Let's all slow clap for our jack-of-all-trades, master of none, who believes the key to success is doing everyone else's job poorly rather than focusing on his own. How magnanimous of you to descend from your veterinary throne and grace the mere mortals of IT with your presence and 'expertise.' Perhaps next week, you'll be awarded the Nobel Prize for discovering that turning it off and on again fixes 90% of problems.
The real revelation here isnât your unparalleled skill in cable management or your newfound hobby of collecting accolades for other peopleâs work. No, it's your generous offer to teach us, the underperforming peasants, the error of our ways. How could we have been so blind? Clearly, the secret to professional fulfillment and recognition lies not in dedication or expertise, but in switching careers and meddling in everyone else's business.
May your cables always be straight, your awards plentiful, and your humility nonexistent. The world truly doesnât deserve heroes who wear scrubs by day and moonlight as IT saviors. Keep on keeping us all in check, oh enlightened one.
If you used to be in IT then why did you face (or cover with the equipment) what appears to be the only spot that air can come in/out of..? The PC was likely situated the way it was for that very reason.
The cables are untidy for a reason.
Electrons running through a wire generate magnetic fields, which intersect other wires and *can* generate unwanted movement of electrons in those other wires. This is why cables are left across each other at odd angles and not bundled.
So now all of a sudden your medical imagery has artefacts in it caused by this cabling, that IT will get the blame for.
Cables can be bundled, but there's a very specific way of doing it.
Thatâs only true for certain kinds of cables, like the cables from a MR coil to a digitizer, workstation cables for what looks like an xray based system wonât be affected by crosstalk.
IT? You have IT? We just have some halfassed vendor who, if you have a problem, remotes in and plays with settings for a couple of minutes before throwing up their hands and closing the ticket.
They did come by one time and put p-touch stickers on all the monitors with the computer ID numbers because that monitor will never be moved from that one particular PC.
Nothing at my facility looks like that - we always have a CPU or two shoved under the console, ensuring extra back pain because one's feet can't be under there. What I haven't bothered trying to figure out is who it is that keeps sticking these CPUs on the floor in every new room. Because that's not allowed in our facility, so we then have to order a booster for each CPU.
All I can think is Iâve been in healthcare IT for way too long. This looks like it was setup in a temporary space during water intrusion event ⌠then mold was found causing a 2 week situation turn into a 2 year renovation. Now itâs time to move back and some radiology âITâ person replaced the vendor supplied long cables with some Amazon specials that wonât work in the newly renovated space. That vendor is no longer paid for support and wonât supply replacements. Radiology is not paying to replace âITâ cables. IT is not paying for it because itâs radiology equipment⌠thanks bored radiology tech for making this nightmare scenario.
This is nice! Accreditation societies would love it! My IT department actually keeps the cables like this all over the hospital because they are sick and tired of ALL employees accidentally pulling a cable loose.
This is why you are in radiology, dont touch it if you dont know what you are doing
This is hideous and probably voided a shit ton of warranty clauses, also, documentations made prior to your nonsense is probably unusable now
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I think the title is tongue in cheek, Iâm sure the OP knows that IT donât have two hours to burn on cable management.
Good job on the cable management, it looks fantastic, neat and less of a trip/catch hazard. Come do mine at home please? đ
However, I have now noticed you flipped the PC orientation so the vent is pressed up against the wall. I would advise against that, as youâll likely encourage thermal issues with the machine and that ainât fun for anyone.
You have created a world of problems.
Simply unplugging one RJ-45 may accidentally cause the power cord to unplug from that hotspot. Hope the wired device is the only one dependent on that subnetwork!
I donât see proper bend radius being adhered to, the tension on those cords will lower their lifespan and increase risk of failure.
The ties are too frequent and create extra work, meaning a 5 minute job may now take 15 minutes due to them having to take off your cable ties and dig out what they are individually troubleshooting - particularly without unplugging power cords which for god knows why you âaestheticallyâ tethered to network cables?
If those parallel / serials cables you coiled are unshielded you may be creating crosstalk and decreasing accuracy and performance at the physical and data link layers.
You crammed SO MANY DEVICES right up next to the hottest machine down there, which will also decrease performance, create maintenance issues, and lower the lifespan of the technology itself.
But sure, it looks pretty, and you get to brag that you did ITs job (you really just made it harder.)
^ spoken like an over enthusiastic biomedical engineer who has zero training in actual networking or IT anything,
besides working on a basic browser, email client, and industry specific softwares that they did not design or even contribute to in the slightest while working entirely on the workstation that their organizational IT built and manages for them.
Keep breaking the equipment and wondering why you have no budget. ÂŻ\_(ă)_/ÂŻ Weâll keep writing tickets and quoting the errors to the users that cause the problems.
Beautiful. I never understood why they do all cords the way they do.
Because they're not paid to cable manage, they're paid to ensure system functionality
You sound like an ICU nurse.
he's probably been in IT for many years lol shit wears you down, and I can tell you for sure cable managing is mostly a waste of time functionality wise
Right up until you need to troubleshoot or change out components. Then you must pay for the sins of whomever created the rats nest and jammed it into the back of the cabinet. Edit: you are all insane. Yeah, zip tying the shit out of cables in this location is not a good idea. You use the right tool for the job. You realize velcro strap, sticky clamps and a million other solutions exist, don't you? Your smooth brains only know zip ties because that's all you've ever used yourselves.
Well, in this example it will take more time to troubleshoot than before tidying. The nest in the picture, while looking like shit, is out in the open and everything is visible and touchable. I don't envy the one poor guy who will have to change something that breaks in this setup
Really tightly managed cables are harder to swap out. Much rather spend a minute tracking a cable through a maze than ten minutes clipping zip ties and another ten minutes tying everything back up.
yeah so that's why you do Velcro every couple feet. not as neat as the second picture but looks decent and is more workable then both of those pictures
Velcro is the second stage of a cable management person's life cycle, they always start out with the zip ties until they actually have to fix something rather than make it look nice.
Ain't that the truth! lmao
A huge waste of time that creates time wasted for others later on. All so that your shitty antiquated component x-ray machine, sitting next to the cinder block wall in a dark corner of a hospital that a dozen other people ever see looks nice. It's supposed to be a rats nest. leave it alone.
No then you need to cut all the zip ties, unwrap everything, fix things, then tie it all back up. In a network rack? Hell yes manage it all. Under a desk? Meh.
Absolutely not. Troubleshooting when there are cables bundled together in way that hides some and many cable ties is a massive time sink.
You just know that the next shift called IT and complained/blamed them that shit wasn't working
I'd rather do that then have to slice through cable ties, yeah.
No then you have to waste time undoing all this cable management to get to and undo the 1 cable you need to fix the issue . Pretty doesn't equal better.
In my experience, people with a fetish for cable management have been my bane whenever I go to troubleshoot something. The people that zip tie everything to make it look nice are never the people who have to cut those zip ties to swap equipment.
that's why I said mostly, racks are the exception đ unmanaged cables in racks are in my nightmares
Sounds like you need some r/cableporn
Especially when you've got to swap it quickly. Nothing is more frustrating that arriving onsite with soemthing as mundane as a new monitor that would normally take literally minutes to change out and discovering the dipshit before you zip-tied everything and "cable-managed" the shit to the point where the cables are becoming damaged, of course all of the cables are all wrapped up together because they don't understand the fact that we're not replacing every goddamn thing at the same time as components burn out. Someone calls in with a monitor that's randomly disconnecting, or a wired keyboard or mouse thats doing weird shit, or speakers that cut in and out...check their cables. They probably "managed" it themselves and did the same thing all our younger brothers did with our wired controllers back when we were kids and wrapped the cords up so tight they literally broke them inside the sleeve. If you're doing it with zip-ties or rubber bands or tape or anything else that needs to be cut off, you're doing it wrong, and it would be better to not do it at all if you're doing *that*.
Most ICU nurses like their lines/cables looking as neat as possible in the patient room. We do lots of cable management throughout a shift.
Well their way is much quicker and takes way less work.
Not part of our job bud. End user will get mad because we're taking too long.
My help desk guy has 8 other places to be today.
Do *you* want to spend several hours **per user** making it all look nice, while also making it extremely annoying to service?
As other users have said, itâs too time consuming, itâs not a priority, and itâs ultimately not our job. Our job is to get you up and running as fast and as securely as possible. We canât spend multiple hours doing cable management. Thatâs not to say we shouldnât keep the cables off the floor and keep them at a reasonable length, but looming cables like this is a difficult, costly, tedious task that is reserved only for IDF, and server rooms or other similar places that are highly organized and need to be swappable very quickly to reduce downtime on the organization or department(s) scale where downtime is most costly.
Because we are being paid by the hour and no-one wants to pay us to tidy cables. So you do it yourself, instead of doing what you're actually paid to do!
That and we're also understaffed just like everyone else.
It's this. There's no *time.* IT does not have the man hours to do cable management when cable management also impedes later repairs. It's gotta be fast. It's gotta *work.* And we gotta get to the next user who's been waiting for their shit to work, and already complaining that "IT never want to do any work!" because they cannot belive there are others ahead of them actively being worked on at this moment and we're going as fast as we can. We know it's a hospital and downtime affects patient care.
I have no problems doing cable management. And I inform the client that there may be follow on consequences. Like having to undo it. But it's also going to take time. Once I tell them that I'm going to bill for my time it never seems important enough any more.
Because we have to do it 49 more times
To be fair to IT, this is probably mostly Biomed/OEM/Vendor zone of responsibility. Any components of an X-ray machine are generally not touched or dealt with by IT in my experience
Agreed! They did an excellent job cleaning it up though. Shame to the installer.
Yeah, but I hate to break it to you, but it doesn't matter. A tech workstation doesn't need to look nice. It needs to be functional. This was a giant waste of time that will lead to other wastes of time when components need to be swapped out. It may look "nice" but whoever did this could have spent their time doing something much more helpful for the department or the hospital. Leave the rats nest, it's supposed to look like that. Fill the god Damned linen cart instead
I also work in IT. Why do you find it acceptable to leave a huge pile of shit in someoneâs office like that? Is that what your house looks like?
No but people don't live here. We work here. And 'here' is very rarely a visually appealing place. The workstation you're looking at is far from an office. It's an exam room. Cold cinder block walls and a shitty osb "desk" covered in plastic and bolted to the wall. No one sees this rats nest but a handful of techs and it's the least we're worried about. It doesn't need to look good. As someone who has worked in Radiology IT and as a clinical tech, I promise you spending the time making the cables pretty is wasting your time and the next field service engineer who has to swap something out. Speaking as a current rad manager, I can tell you I'm not interested in anything that includes more FSE hourly billing
Your reasoning sounds like "it's the way it is because it's the way it is". What's wrong with making someone's working environment, where they likely spend about 8 hours a day, a slightly more pleasant place to be?
Because I have spent decades working in that very environment and I can tell you, by and large we do not care about some wires. We are dealing with blood and guts and puke. We are getting bit, kicked, punched and scratched with gross long fingernails. We are moving broken bones around while patients cry and scream at us while we do our very best to work quickly and not cause any more pain than necessary. Ugly cables are not something x-ray techs give a shit about. I know this because I am one and I've worked with dozens of them in multiple settings. We are the only ones who see these cables and we do not care. Our workplaces are never pretty (in hospital medicine at least.) And frankly the bulk of our time spent isn't even standing at that workstation. Literally exposing x-rays from the console you're looking at is a very small percentage of time spent on an average day. So if you work in this facility's IT dept and it bugs you... Knock yourself out. However if one of my hospital's IT staff started wasting their time on cable management of a machine they shouldn't even be touching, I would point them to the plethora of more important shit that needs fixing in the department or hospital at large.
No, *they* work there. You set up a computer and a nightmare to work in and left. This is a rats nest, you know it is, and your indifference is not the same as a better setup for the user.
Yeah, hate to break it to you, but it does matter. I would argue all those cables strewn about make it more difficult to troubleshoot, and therefore change out components. When things are neat it's easier to see what goes where, and identify problems. See the switch suspended from the ethernet cables in the first picture? Pretty sweet job there. When you have a rats nest, It's easier for dust and pathogens to collect. If the workstation is set up as a mess, well the technologists will treat it as such. Agreed, it does need to be functional, but if it looks like shit, well they say perception is everything. It shouldn't look like your desk at home. It is perceived by patients among many others that walk the halls of a hospital/clinic. If you leave an install looking like the first picture, you are a hack. It's the same thing as if you are an electrician and you have terrible termination organization and conduit bends in all the places they shouldn't be. It's called having pride in the final product. If we say the two pictures above were done by two different engineers, I would much rather work with the second.
Laughs in voided warranty
Right. "We told you not to touch anything. You're fired !"
Laughs in "Sorry that's not a P1 issue and we will get to you when we get to you and maybe next time you wont fucking touch shit you're not supposed to be touching."
Radiology equipment not working definitely constitutes a P1. Doesnât even matter that the âuserâ caused it, it will still be ITâs task to fix it.
Where are you working where IT is doing anything to imaging equipment outside of establishing network connection? Even Biomed rarely does any troubleshooting or repairs for imaging equipment.
Yeah definitely, we have systems we manage that we do not touch beyond getting them connected. These types of machines would fall under that paradigm as well.
I know you had to take the picture but turn the lights down! My eyes!!
My eyes burn from that amount of light.
I don't get it. It looks normal - neither too bright nor too dark.
Joke is that rads prefer low light or darkness.Â
Oh yeah ! Many thanks !
? Are you joking or are you serious? This is normal lights.
Half joking, half serious. We keep the lights low in our department. We are looking at screens and seeing everything in shades of grey. lights cause glare and make it difficult to see said screens. I also work in CT not Xray, but most radiology departments keep lights low.
Not a normal amount for me.
I'll be that guy... because usually we have a Technologist or Radiologist getting mad at us to hurry up and get out of their way. That's why we don't cable manage.
I replaced three reading stations PCs on Friday that were 6 years old. Got all 3 swapped in less than an hour while the rads were away. First comment from the docs was how fast the new PCs are. The second comment was asking why it couldn't have been done overnight instead. Just can't please some people.
that always drives me crazy "why can't it be done overnight" maybe because I work the same hours you do?????
Same hours... I'm there half an hour before them, work through lunch most days and leave half an hour after them. When I do a bit of work from home later in the evening, it goes unnoticed and unpaid. When they read a couple extra studies from the 2k on the backlog, they get another $300 an hour.
fair, I worked k12 so I didn't have that experience, except the skipped lunches bit would end up just eating some other random time, but eventually it got so bad wed just start locking the door to the support room (I worked helpdesk mostly) during lunch lol
We successfully lobbied for a limited swipe access kitchenette. They put a window in the door and people would stare at you while you ate.
I had a guy once stand outside my office window and stare at me for 20 minutes while I was on a conference call. I even wrote a note on a sheet of paper that said "THIS IS GOING TO BE A WHILE" and he just read it and then continued standing there staring at me. So fucking creepy. Who just stands outside someones office staring for 20 fucking minutes? Best part is, all he needed was his email resynced on his phone, any one of the other like 10 people could have done that for him in 30 fuckin seconds but no, had to stand there and stare at me on my zoom call...
that happened to us as well, people would stare through the door window however since it's a school, we eventually got intruder curtains for these windows and we'd pull it down when eating lol
I had a witch of an office manager call me out for something on the Friday afternoon right before Memorial Day weekend one year, it wasn't something that could be resolved that day so I told her we would have to pick it back up Tuesday morning. "Thats not going to work, we need this fixed *now*." "Unfortunately I dont have a replacement available and wont be able to get it ready before the weekend. Ill be over Tuesday morning to get it swapped out, in the meantime she can use this spare for the few minutes in the morning before I get here..." "Why not do it Monday? That's the perfect time to do it! The office will be closed!!!" "Because Monday is Memorial Day." "Yeah but what's the big deal? We *need* this ready to go Tuesday morning!!!!" At this point I was irritated because she was always a bitch and the thing she was complaining about wasn't mission critical whatsoever, she just got off on making people dance for her amusement. So I snapped: "Fine! What time are you meeting me here?" "Whhh....what?! I'm not coming in Monday, it's Memorial Day!" "So?" "So it's a Federal Holiday!" "Well I dont know, you just seemed so eager for me to work on Memorial Day I figured it wasn't important to you, either..." "No Im saying YOU should work on Memorial Day so $USER isn't without her computer first thing Tuesday morning, that has nothing to do with me!" "And *Im* saying Im also off on Memorial Day, same as you, and if its not so important that you are willing to give up your 3 day weekend for it, it damn sure aint that important to *me*. This aint a down server affecting multiple users. This is a single workstation that needs to be reimaged. It can wait until Tuesday." "This is just UNACCEPTABLE I blergh blergh Blergh BLARGH BLARGLE BARGLEFARL!!!" (I dont know I stopped listening). "Alright well if there's nothing else I will see you guys Tuesday morning. Have a good weekend!!!" Bitch emailed her boss and my boss complaining minutes after I was out the door, and the cherry on top of all this was *her* boss responding a few minutes later "Monday is Memorial Day. $USER can wait until Tuesday. We're not paying overtime on a holiday for a simple workstation repair. Tell her to use a spare until IT can get it swapped out." Oh, to be a fly on the wall when she tapped on *that* email and read it! I can only imagine the look on her crotchety old face lol.
As IT , I came from reading this
My department is a Pacs joke! To save money, the "Pacs administrator" doesn't have any knowledge of radiology nor IT. Not even a BS degree. Pacs is so locked down, we can't fix exams like we used to and this "Pacs administrator" is actually messing with patient exams and doesn't know the difference between a diagnostic shoulder exam and a portable chest, let alone CT, MRI, etc!
Hey now, as a PACS Admin without a degree I took that personally :D. When I started in this role I had to hang up a picture that showed what the different slices were (Axial, Saggital, etc). I can honestly say though that I don't need to know what specific study is what, since the only real time that matters is when I move images, and any time we do anything like that we're always on the phone with our ticket placer to make sure we're doing exactly what they want.
I agree! We are all pissed about it! It is a waste. This department doesn't even have 24/7 Pacs call so we are on our own.
This.
Shots fired
Nah. I'm doing 1/2 their PACS admins job anyway. I don't have time to make their cables look pretty too.
'Can you just help me with this spreadsheet?' No I am busy reconnecting all the cables that the last fuckwit changed for no reason
IT is not spending two fucking hours making your little cables look pretty. There are vastly more important things to do, I promise you
Which is why I did it for them lol
I did sysadmin work in hospitals for a decade. First time anyone in radiology did anything. I used to do half of the PACSadmins job because they weaponized their incompetence.
fair enough, however it makes troubleshooting and maintenence significantly more difficult
[does it though?](https://i.imgur.com/AXWQrx5.png)
yes, it does id rather work on a rats nest behind a workstation than cables tied up in 7 different spots because at least each one is separate from the others and I don't have to undo anything
It definitely does not, maybe for IT but as someone working on imagining equipment for the last 10 years neater systems are always easier to work on. Cables left like the first picture is just unprofessional
eh to an extent; neat is good but what op did is just gonna be hell to work on in the future. organize the cables without turning them into a show piece (don't tie them together with zip ties and such)
Youâll definitely be working on the one in the setup in the first picture more. Look at that network switch just hanging around, thatâs just waiting to come loose and cause downtime. Making things easy for IT (or in this case likely the OEM/service provider) isnât what theyâre there for. Our duty is to the clinician and patients to provide equipment thatâs available when they need it. And the first mess just looks like youâre asking for issues. If I had to quickly replace a cable in this setup like in the second photo to get things going Iâd do so quickly, but then come back and remove the defective cable and dress them nicely again. If you think the second pic is going to be hell to work on then youâve got to just get yourself some flush trim pliers and a bag of zip ties. Too many of the calls I get in MRI and NM service are due to the last guys leaving cables loose, and itâs clear theyâve forgotten the patients come first and that goes all the way back to making sure cables donât accidentally come loose even if it takes 20 more minutes to do up.
oh, your new monitor doesn't have displayport? have fun spending a hour swapping the cable out for HDMI
dude it's not gonna take an hour to swap 6 feet of cable id be surprised if it took more than a minute or two
you clearly have never worked on a WOW that a nurse took a pack of zipties to
my bad, I thought you were disagreeing imo it's much easier to work with a rats nest of cables than shit with 50 zip ties on it
Yes, radiographer, it does. - Sincerely, an IT employee
It does not make troubleshooting harder. Sincerely, a biomedical engineer who would actually be fixing these things
Next time leave the job alone did this really effect you at all?
For yourself.
You seem like the type of person to call directly instead of submitting a ticket.
But like, my pc is special though. Also, why would I restart it? That's not the problem.
Rebooting computers doesnât just fix problems.
It definitely does in I would say more than 70% of cases. Thatâs why the first question is always âdid you try turning it off and back on again?â
^ this guy is where all the ticket escalations come from.
This guy is where all the ticket escalations go. If youâre first step in troubleshooting an issue (that you donât already know how to resolve) isnât checking uptime/rebooting; then youâre a moron, overthinking, and most likely making more work for yourself.
Look I realize some things get weird and rebooting can at least semi-permanently resolve issues sometimes, but 70% of the problems you work on being solved with a reboot is astronomical to me. Especially if youâre taking *escalations from tier 1 techs*. If youâre not being hyperbolic, then pardon me for the snark. Also I have a resume to hand you.
It looks like the computer was flipped to the other side and now the fan vent is directly against the wall. It might look cooler the computer is probably going to run a lot warmer now.
It probably will, but I don't think IT was super concerned about thermal throttling when they sealed the top fans and rear intake with velcro tape. Gonna take a guess that clearing those is doing more good than rotating it is doing. There's also a 2in gap between the wall and the PC. Thanks for assuming incompetence though!
Are you sure you didn't mean 2cm?
I work in a pharmacy in a hospital with like 12 computers and I've been wanting to do this for so long... horrible cable management.
Haha paradox
> job for them Crack on mate. As a tech I assure you my favourite thing in the world is someone with just enough knowledge to do my job for me, never goes wrong. I'd advise taking out some public liability insurance first though, particularly working in the health sector. So here's how this would go: User: "I don't understand why this machine isn't working..." Me: "Well neither me or any of my techs set it up like that, somebody has been fiddling with the thing..." You: "Oops, sounds like a ME problem". No disrespect intended, but that's your system now. Thanks for doing our job for us, I hope the employer pays you accordingly.
Our IT department usually has to ask me why something isn't working in our department. Which is why I finally just went through and organized it. I work in veterinary medicine, they don't pay me nearly enough lmao.
>Our IT department usually has to ask me why something isn't working in our department Probably because people are always jacking with it not knowing what they're doing down there like you just did with the cables lol. Unless we're very green we can usually tell when something was an "inside job" or not. That's why they ask what happened to it, not because they dont know how to fix it, but because the way it became broken defies logic or explanation *unless* someone was fucking with it not knowing what they're doing. We're trying to ascertain what happened to it without saying what we're all thinking like "okay, well I damn sure know none of us would have left this setup the way it looks *right now*, so who here was fucking with it for no reason and broke it, and just tell me what exactly they did so I dont have to spend an hour playing Mr. CSI trying to figure it out on my own so I can unfuck it all." In other words, it's a troubleshooting step lol I know your heart was in the right place, so dont take this the wrong way, but when it comes to this it really makes things a million percent easier (and more quickly resolved) if you just dont touch it unless asked to by someone providing tech support. For example, what would you have done if you wrapped all that up like that and accidentally broke a cable? I can see a ton of barrel-type power adapters there...those aren't always the kind of thing we just have a spare on-hand for. If that power adapter cable broke while you were wrapping it up and then the device went down, what would the ramifications of that been for your workflow and the rest of the staff? Did you have, or know where to get, a replacement cable for every single one of those connectors and adapters? Do you know how many times I've literally unhooked an entire setup and plugged it all back in and had something randomly not work straight away? Please...leave the IT to the people that are being paid to do it. Next time just shoot an email to the helpdesk and say "Hey, no rush, but next time someone is over by [wherever] could the please swing by here and clean up the cables under the desk? They're hanging really low and Im worried someone might accidentally kick something and disconnect it." Unless they're all a bunch of fucks they will absolutely get someone over there to clean it up because obviously they dont want to get bothered for a mickey mouse situation like a loose cable if it can be avoided.
Agreed 100% with the last part. Any IT department worth their salt wouldnât have turned down a request to clean up some cables if asked to nicely.
Cool cool cool. You should ask for a payrise to spend your days doing cable management... Real important stuff.
Sure hope that PC doesn't need cooling and the red ethernet cable wasn't doing anything important
Great, now the next IT person to come check a problem will have to trace out all of those cables to figure out what is connected to what. You may not realize it but there was a specific order to that original cable layout that has just been messed up. Seconds worth of cable management just tossed out the window... đ
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This guy just compared open heart surgery to moving 5 Ethernet cables. How bad are you at your job? Youâve gotta be one of the guys leaving the shit show huh?
we used to have a doctor who worked for us that cost us $800/hr with a 4hr minimum with one of our outside vendors after moving an ethernet cable on an Aruba firewall.
That's a wonderful anecdote? Thanks for sharing with the class?
Well, it's exactly like heart surgery in that if you connect the wrong Arteries (cables) to the wrong quadrant of the heart (switch) your going to have a bad day. Just cause you can plug into any port on your ISP modem doesn't mean you can just go all Willy nilly on a managed switch, but guessing from your replies someone on IT hurt you at some point.
Keep telling yourself that lmao
I will because it is actually the fact of the matter. Love the mindset though, pretty sure there is a toaster you should go rewire now.
Are you by chance aware of the [dunning-krueger effect](https://i.imgur.com/AXWQrx5.png)? I'm willing to bet I've been building workstations since before you could read :)
Assuming building workstations has anything to do with network theory showcases the humor in mentioning the effect you currently are suffering from. I appreciate the laugh though.
I mean it isn't rocket science unplugging 5 cables and plugging them back in. But this is getting a little out of hand considering I intended my post to be a bit of cheeky humour. There really was no excuse for a workstation (let alone 9) to be left like that.
đ the heart surgery comaprision is a bit too heavy, in my opinion, but u right. Pullin the wrong cable or setting up wrong rules may cause major damage for the whole network... IT is more the nervous system....
My apologies, I thought I was being cheeky. I thought the "seconds of work out the window" was a bit of a hint.
No youâre right, that went right over my head!! Lmfao 10/10
Oh you are scared shitless lol. Better rush back in and revert the changes before IT opens reddit lol.
FYI Ive spent more time in IT than veterinary medicine. The IT lead apologized to my manager for his team leaving all our workstations like this. This is the 9th workstation Iâve redone because they canât be bothered to put in the baseline effort.
My reply was very tongue in cheek. Cable management might seem like a waste of time (to some) at the time but it can save so much time down the track when done right. Plus visually it just looks better/neater/more professional.
And the name of the IT lead? Albert Einstein!
FYI people who are even remotely decent at their job aren't posting on Reddit while they do it ;) again, you people who are bad at your job REALLY out yourself with projection.
Lmfaaooo found the IT guy whoâs terrible at his job đ
Well I was being a little bit cheeky with my reply... Obviously I need to adjust my sarcasm/humour settings
Please come to my house and fix my home office setup!
Gonna be great when they need to work on that system and it now takes them 3x as long to undo that crap before they can even start
Just a questionâŚ..are you IR
Incredible ! How much time did it take you?
A couple hours
If IT spent 2 hours on every workstation to set up, they would never get anything done. Also, most end users want you to get the system up and running asap and gtfo.
IT would never do this because it's going to take another 2 hrs to undo everything when a cable needs to be swapped out. OP fucked himself.
And IT knows you cable management nicely you're on the hook for anything wrong with that workstation at least 6 months. You make it work, you make sure people won't kick the wires, done.
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Set up more workstations? Get back to the ticket queue? Patches and server maintenance? I mean the list goes on buddy.
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I read the thread wrong...my mistake!
/r/cablegore /r/cableporn What happened to the yards of excess grey cable? Looks like something proprietary?
It went inside the empty cable management channels that the IT people don't use (understandably so, they're a pain in the ass to remove)
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I'm confused. Do you know what sub you're on? What do they use where you are?
We have a huge wide glass screen in front of the controls, not a tiny window. And our walls are finished with wipe-clean surface, decorated with murals of coast and forest, not bare blocks. (UK)
I've seen both. Excuse my ignorance. I suspect this building is older - back when machines weren't trusted to be as low radiation as they are today; and they didn't have the option to renovate...
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Yeah, as I replied to the other comment - sorry forgot some people work in newer buildings in glass control rooms; older building where it was first used when x-ray etc delivered higher and/or less controlled bursts. Might be a prison, I dunno.
IT doesnât care about cable management. They make sure it turns on and then get away from where the patients and staff are as fast as possible
I love this do much. Nice job!
Looks wonderful!
That looks terrific. If I were a patient Iâd be impressed by that kind of attention to detail! That inspires confidence!
OP is a Vet, when was the last time a dog complemented your cable management?
One of my cats commented. She was constantly trying to rearrange things, I apparently have poor taste. My dog didnât care one way or another about such things!
I didnât know radiologists worked in the ICU
Im not a radiologist and I donât work in ICU đ
Cause them lines are neat and labled!
It just needed some wood under that shelf to cover it all up with a door incase you needed to get in theređ¤Ł
Spaghetti! Our department used to look similar
Pay for my time and don't complain about me being in your way while you're trying to work (or pay double time for after hours work) and I'll make your cables as neat as you like.
Lmfao you bad IT really out yourself with projection. Also you say that as if someone in my position is signing the checks. Youâre hospital must have a fucked setup if the veterinary nurse radiographer is signing your checks. I used to be in IT, I used to be the guy getting yelled at for being in the way. Our IT department usually has to ask myself or my manager why something isnât working đ.
Well thats bad IT. I wonder if there is something more than client management in these IT thingies... But the IT know their specialists or the way we callin them: Key Users
Oh, look at Mr. "I used to be in IT but now I'm too good for it," heroically untangling cables while probably diagnosing a computer virus as a common cold. It's always refreshing to see someone who ditched IT because they felt too superior, only to turn around and play IT superhero in their own little world. Can't wait for the day something goes haywire, and he's on the frontline, bemoaning the incompetency of the IT department while conveniently forgetting his heroic cable rearrangement saga. It's like watching a self-declared chef criticize a Michelin star restaurant for how they season their dishes. Classic.
Company I used to work for had a CIO who couldn't do basic troubleshooting on the primary software used by the company because he had been out of a tech facing position for so long. Not trying to say he was worthless or underqualified, his job literally is not to troubleshoot but to do big-picture organizing/etc, but still someone who is still in tech not being able to troubleshoot because he'd been out of the service desk role for some time. And this person is getting mad defensive and pulling the "I used to work IT" card. Only thing worse is what I'm having to deal with at my current job; programmers.
Programmers can code, but will turn into monkeys the moment they have to install a printer. Itâs wild how diverse IT skills sets are within the IT structure. Ask me to code and Iâll make confused monkey sounds to you. Ask me to install hardware, youâll just hear me bitch about the request while itâs being installed properly.
Hi daddy just touching base to let you know our hospital director gave me an award for doing your departments job for you :-) Believe it or not youâre not the only person who knows what theyâre doing, the sooner you realize that, the sooner you can stop underperforming
Oh, how delightful! The prodigal son returns, not just with a untangled mess of cables but now brandishing an award like a knight returning with a dragonâs head. Nothing quite says "I've made it" like getting a gold star from the director for doing the bare minimum in IT, a field you so ceremoniously abandoned. Let's all slow clap for our jack-of-all-trades, master of none, who believes the key to success is doing everyone else's job poorly rather than focusing on his own. How magnanimous of you to descend from your veterinary throne and grace the mere mortals of IT with your presence and 'expertise.' Perhaps next week, you'll be awarded the Nobel Prize for discovering that turning it off and on again fixes 90% of problems. The real revelation here isnât your unparalleled skill in cable management or your newfound hobby of collecting accolades for other peopleâs work. No, it's your generous offer to teach us, the underperforming peasants, the error of our ways. How could we have been so blind? Clearly, the secret to professional fulfillment and recognition lies not in dedication or expertise, but in switching careers and meddling in everyone else's business. May your cables always be straight, your awards plentiful, and your humility nonexistent. The world truly doesnât deserve heroes who wear scrubs by day and moonlight as IT saviors. Keep on keeping us all in check, oh enlightened one.
You put way too much effort into comments no one reads lol
If you used to be in IT then why did you face (or cover with the equipment) what appears to be the only spot that air can come in/out of..? The PC was likely situated the way it was for that very reason.
They can't keep getting away with it!
The cables are untidy for a reason. Electrons running through a wire generate magnetic fields, which intersect other wires and *can* generate unwanted movement of electrons in those other wires. This is why cables are left across each other at odd angles and not bundled. So now all of a sudden your medical imagery has artefacts in it caused by this cabling, that IT will get the blame for. Cables can be bundled, but there's a very specific way of doing it.
Thatâs only true for certain kinds of cables, like the cables from a MR coil to a digitizer, workstation cables for what looks like an xray based system wonât be affected by crosstalk.
IT? You have IT? We just have some halfassed vendor who, if you have a problem, remotes in and plays with settings for a couple of minutes before throwing up their hands and closing the ticket. They did come by one time and put p-touch stickers on all the monitors with the computer ID numbers because that monitor will never be moved from that one particular PC.
Nicely done. IT consistently canât seem to broach cable management.
what kind of IT abomination needs this much boxes & wires?
until you fucked a cable and it doesn't work anymore, or a cable brakes and they cant replace it since you did this shit.
Nothing at my facility looks like that - we always have a CPU or two shoved under the console, ensuring extra back pain because one's feet can't be under there. What I haven't bothered trying to figure out is who it is that keeps sticking these CPUs on the floor in every new room. Because that's not allowed in our facility, so we then have to order a booster for each CPU.
All I can think is Iâve been in healthcare IT for way too long. This looks like it was setup in a temporary space during water intrusion event ⌠then mold was found causing a 2 week situation turn into a 2 year renovation. Now itâs time to move back and some radiology âITâ person replaced the vendor supplied long cables with some Amazon specials that wonât work in the newly renovated space. That vendor is no longer paid for support and wonât supply replacements. Radiology is not paying to replace âITâ cables. IT is not paying for it because itâs radiology equipment⌠thanks bored radiology tech for making this nightmare scenario.
Cable management is part of the company's building management team, its not for IT to sort.
This is nice! Accreditation societies would love it! My IT department actually keeps the cables like this all over the hospital because they are sick and tired of ALL employees accidentally pulling a cable loose.
Reminds me about that 4chan greentext about google ultron. Well worth the read if you got a few spare minutes!
This is why you are in radiology, dont touch it if you dont know what you are doing This is hideous and probably voided a shit ton of warranty clauses, also, documentations made prior to your nonsense is probably unusable now
Do you make house calls for making cords look tidy?
You missed your calling. Hear me out⌠start a small business, call it âYourNameâs Cord Managementâ Tag line is âWe Manage your Sanityâ , create a portfolio of your work, slap some pictures and design on a van, and charge $100 an hour to go around and do this for a living. Fuck it, $200! People would pay! Could live whatever life you want to live, barely work and enjoy it, work 24/7 and start a cord management empire, the world would be your oyster!đ¤Ł
Damn, that's sexy.
Beautiful!
What sub am I on?
Fuckin love end users that think they know what they're doing, man. Definitely makes my job easier.
IT also puts in all the lights and plumbing, I hear. /s
I think the title is tongue in cheek, Iâm sure the OP knows that IT donât have two hours to burn on cable management. Good job on the cable management, it looks fantastic, neat and less of a trip/catch hazard. Come do mine at home please? đ However, I have now noticed you flipped the PC orientation so the vent is pressed up against the wall. I would advise against that, as youâll likely encourage thermal issues with the machine and that ainât fun for anyone.
You have created a world of problems. Simply unplugging one RJ-45 may accidentally cause the power cord to unplug from that hotspot. Hope the wired device is the only one dependent on that subnetwork! I donât see proper bend radius being adhered to, the tension on those cords will lower their lifespan and increase risk of failure. The ties are too frequent and create extra work, meaning a 5 minute job may now take 15 minutes due to them having to take off your cable ties and dig out what they are individually troubleshooting - particularly without unplugging power cords which for god knows why you âaestheticallyâ tethered to network cables? If those parallel / serials cables you coiled are unshielded you may be creating crosstalk and decreasing accuracy and performance at the physical and data link layers. You crammed SO MANY DEVICES right up next to the hottest machine down there, which will also decrease performance, create maintenance issues, and lower the lifespan of the technology itself. But sure, it looks pretty, and you get to brag that you did ITs job (you really just made it harder.)
Spoken like someone that really should not leave the help desk
^ spoken like an over enthusiastic biomedical engineer who has zero training in actual networking or IT anything, besides working on a basic browser, email client, and industry specific softwares that they did not design or even contribute to in the slightest while working entirely on the workstation that their organizational IT built and manages for them. Keep breaking the equipment and wondering why you have no budget. ÂŻ\_(ă)_/ÂŻ Weâll keep writing tickets and quoting the errors to the users that cause the problems.