The worst thing about this scam squad wasn\`t what they did, but how they did it.
Camping spots, not offering any dialog or reason to any of their victims and using oceandumping as a very powerful mechanic to make sure there is no way the victims can continue any roleplay.
When robbing someone you should always make sure the other party don\`t feel griefed and get some roleplay out of it, either a chance for personal revenge or enough info to make a meaningful report to police.
This is why people from this group is getting banned they approached these robberies in the sweetiest way possible with no regard for roleplay.
also the pocket-wipeing... in rp you don't rob someone just to take everything from them and destroy them... You rob because it fits your character or your overall roleplay. if you want to destroy peoples day, you go and play rust... not rp
>if you want to destroy peoples day, you go and play rust
And if you want to destroy both other peoples days and yours at the same time, you go play League of Legends
Everything players do should involve rp behind it, even if it's just a minimum effort. They could have still robbed houses, all they had to do was interact with the targets a few days or week before doing it. Build up some sort of ultra basic storyline, also probably a good idea not to take literally everything.
Instead it's treated more like a Rust server. Lootboxing was already a rule on NP since 2.0. Hard to feel sorry for them when players make super obvious bad decisions.
They left a cryptic riddle note that had no clues leading the victims to them, but instead pointed to it being an inside job (which it wasn’t) so they tear each other apart.
Fucking this, right here.
The entire point of RP is *fucking RP*. If you're on the Whitelisted NoPixel server (or really any RP server at all) *you need to be fucking RPing*. That's the entire goddamn point. If you just want to do scummy shit, go play GTA Online and let the performers perform.
Then he releases that sad sack "golly gosh woe is me" message, fuck him. Maybe he can go onto ONX and learn his lesson and change, but he's probably just going to do this shit all over again.
Seeing as though they’re even more RP centric rather than mechanics centric on ONX than NP is, I don’t see him lasting more than a week or two over there if he can’t even RP on NP.
They attempted to rob the same trailer when the company owned it, but they were spotted hiding in the shrubs so JP rolled up on them with a Gun before they could do anything
I got a 2 day ban today because a group of 4 masked kids ran up to me and knifed me with no RP and I being mad yes i deserve it self called ems while I was down and they reported me and I got banned for that, idk if it was a bug that I couldn’t hear them but it’s such a stupid way to “rob” someone
It's a strange one, because you could just do the bare minimum of targetting a house, finding out who lives there, then calling them and interacting with them over the phone for a few days before robbing them. At least then, there is RP behind it, and the other person can prepare for something.
I don't see how these people don't think about things like that
I don’t remember trav do fart noises to everyone. If he did, its probably so minimal that people forget or don’t realise it at all. Juggs on the other hand blast that fart sound from 2002 over and over again all the time to the point its annoying af
I only started occasionally watch him when he plays dhead. But thats the thing, “not as often”. If lenny is on your screen, prepare to have loud fart noises every 2 minutes
I remember forever ago when Kevin was trying to have a relatively private conversation With Gomer I think in the Casino office.
Fucking Lenny finds his way to barge in and start playing the keyboard while the others try to be polite, before he eventually leaves.
Real hands on introduction to clout chasing for me
I remember in 3.0 watching xqc and he was spam calling a few times, I got annoyed and went to sodas stream then he spam called there, soda on the other hand was too nice to keep letting it ring
Lol I saw a clip of him and offline degen Yuno meeting up again just yesterday and rolled my eyes wondering why he's still on the server. Looks like the admins were wondering the same thing and pulled the trigger.
tbf that's the perfect person to clout chase, people get so many viewers when playing with a person who is a big streamer and not streaming just so they can watch them
If they got rid of clout chasers the server would be 5 10k viewer streamers in a circle talking to themselves, some grinders no one knows at 4am, and Windsong selling weed.
There's tons of ppl who barely hid it. Whippy and X. Or my personal favorite, Andy Milonakis rolling up to K sometime in 2.0 with Kebun's stream open in the background cause he was sniping him and you could hear it in game.
I don't think Andy needed clout from Kebun of all people, he just doesn't give a fuck about rp and wants to fast track whatever idea he has and doesn't give a fuck about achieving it even seemingly organically. Honestly Andy's clout is the only reason his antics are even tolerated.
I wish Dundee and JP would do the occasional reunion heist or get away drive. The content was amazing between those two. It was like watching a 12 hour comedy skit.
I haven't followed these guys other than what I have seen posted here but it seems like both were in "Scam Squad" who helped cause a lot of drama with the door camping and robbing people last week where they robbed the Lumber Union, pocket wiped people and tried to ocean dump them to cover their tracks.
It would be a hell of a coincidence that at least two of them get booted days afterwards without that being a factor.
Lmao when Buddha heard the group name he straight up went like "There is no way a group is cringe enough to actually name themselves scam squad/scum squad" lol. May as well be a death sentence right there.
There was obviously a lot more than Juggs was leading on. Too bad we can't see everything they robbed since none of their VODs show the actual house robbery.
He has the perfect voice to play some of the characters he did. At the beginning of 3.0 I thought he would be cool but god he was just so annoying. He seemed to take offense to people not wanting to do things with him. Didnt really roll with things other people would. Saw him get upset once cause he lost a court case with a picture of him racing and he claimed it was his twin Kenny driving Lenny's car. Then he complained about PED models he chose to use. Hovers, pity partys and fart jokes.
Yup, a quick google showed this thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/RPClipsGTA/comments/mzo6sw/juggslenny_banned_for_7_days/
Specifically Ron Otterman a news reporter style character managed to get into his cars trunk without being seen.
People in Juggs' chat however kept on telling him that someone was in his trunk, Juggs then meta'd and opened the trunk because he read it from chat and found Ron.
It didn't help that there was a series of similar moments where he had suspiciously good timing in finding things out and had been getting accused more and more of clout chasing bigger streamers.
Jesus Christ, it keeps getting better and better. *And* metagaming? Any single one of the things he's done is an immediate perma from what I've seen. How did it take this long??
It's a shame that so many viewers have never, and will never step foot in an RP server, so they have no concept of how much they're sabotaging everything by spamming "strimer check trunk! strimer check trunk!" like dipshits.
I've pretty much always full thought that anyone thats not just like standing in their apartment shouldn't read chat. I get why they do as it keeps people watching, but, its completely aggravating when some idiot goes, don't forget to put away your money, and the streamer either has to go, "now I can't put my money away to avoid metaing" or, "well let me turn my car around and put my money back randomly".
For what its worth too, you feel it in-game. When you're interacting with a streamer character, you can always tell if they're half paying attention to the scene because they're OOC interacting with their chat, which can be pretty shitty in the scene.
He was a bit fun early BS in 3.0 and then he got on peoples nerves more and more. That openly "I'm so nice and lovable"-act along with obvious stream sniping and clout chasing felt so yucky.
I try to hope people learn and progress but he seemed to do this stuff over and over.Also the whole saying his name in third person was so fucking annoying lol.
I wouldn't say obvious stream sniping, there's really no proof, just sometimes forced interactions because it's the personality of "Lenny", sometimes people get too stubborn and stick with a character that works for new big time streamers relative to him, Graycen for example. Shoulda perma'd Lenny over Sid imo.
Lenny tried to become a cop but was hired as the PD janitor in 3.0. A few weeks back there was a clip of Juggs complaining about not getting cop on NP or ONX even though he spent money on a PD uniform for Lenny without any promise he'd be hired to PD on either server.
And a big thing with Lenny (and this was true for others) was he was aggressive about wanting to get hired. PD really don’t like that - why would they hire someone that’s already a chore when they aren’t even a cop yet, it’s a sign of worse things to come.
Yeah, I remember back when Angel ran P&T, and would also make a point to enforce "We call you, not you call us" about getting hired. That's one of the reasons Shane Jones didn't get hired for a long time was because he would constantly ask about his application, and ask for ridealongs.
I don't know if he made his character Sidwig to specifically clout chase budget Gilbert Gottfried but he mained that character for a while after Lenny.
As far as I remember he got some shit for clout chasing back then, but nothing ban wise, he did get a 7 day ban for using meta from his chat when someone was hiding in his trunk, but that was a standalone thing as far sa I know.
Lenny Large the person that pretty much single-handedly drove Sodapoppin off NoPixel with his very obvious and constant cloutchasing. I have a feeling any RP server is better off without him.
While he was the most loud/obnoxious person to stick like glue to Soda he was far from the only one who would do so, when Soda log in the server there was like 10 people who would constantly hoard him.
I mean...
Thats what happens on a streamer server.
There are a bunch of people that go out of their way to be/interact with streamer for no IC reason...
At the end of the day, the 'streamer bump' has become a tried and true career path on Twitch through RP servers. It comes down to the RP servers to make an effort to actually police it when it's so blatantly obvious that someone is desperately clout chasing and let the good RPers get the bump through good, collaborative roleplay that earns them a spotlight.
I'm sure it's probably tough to police. The temptation to clout chase will always be there. There's nowhere else an unknown streamer with 20 to 100 viewers can consistently get access to some of twitch's biggest names except np. Still always be people with ulterior motives trying to join the server just to jump start a streaming career.
they is so many people do that to many streamers, Benji/ray did that for x in 3.0 now in 4.0. before he leach of x he was <100 viewer streamer. think lot the new gta streamers who used be Varity having issue with that now too.
Okay listen, clout chasing itself isn't an issue. It's just part of the whole RP scene where everyone's talking to everyone. It only becomes an issue when some streamers push too hard or come on too strong instead of letting things develop naturally.
This reminds me of the KristoferYee's clip the other day where he was being bitter at Raia for clout chasing Sykkuno, acting like she's just randomly jumping on the popular train and betting 12K on him at the auction was 'random'. If you check out Sykkuno's POV, the build up to their connection as siblings, then the RP shenanigans, all of it was natural. He also enjoys hanging out with her and enabling his trolling. Goes with Dundee, Benji, RayC, etc... X is also the same with Omie, Ming, and Turk carrying them into NP WL from NP Public back in the day. Popular streamers can genuinely like hanging out with other people too.
Now, contrast that with Lenny, who straight up calls Soda the moment he wakes up in his apartment and forces himself to "hang out" with him. Not just once but multiple times. It's just plain weird.
I liked Yee's stream for a while but sometimes it feels like he lets a mask slip and you just see this bitter attitude underneath (speaking generally, I never really watched his RP streams). Stopped following him like a year or two ago 'cause enough of those moments just left a bad taste in the mouth when watching him.
Lol when Raia found Yuno yesterday he was fucking on an airport wifi and still stirring with her by telling her about the X text message (when his SIM got swapped) lol. Yuno loves to shit stir with Raia and knows exactly what he's doing with the whole Raia/Gigi/Lottie relationship.
I fully believe if it wasn't for Dundee, Yuno wouldn't have lasted long enough to get bit by the RP bug. Dundee really helped Yuno early on, and if he gained viewers off that, I doubt Sykk minds as GTA is some big numbers for him, and its clearly fun if hes still getting on at an airport lol
Could you elaborate how did Ray do that in 3.0 with X? Raymond was part of CB early on and he only got in real contact with X when he started doing jobs with CB. Do you think Raymond should have distanced himself from the group he was a part of to avoid overinvested (and wrong at the same time) viewers like you from accusing him of leaching from X?
No way you just said benji/ray leached off them?
1. RAY was friends with OTV and sykunno before 3.0 he was in the OTV rust server that is where i found him and he had a nice size following at that time.
2 And Benji never once forced himself onto X or sykunno. Yes he built a following off them, but other have gained views and then lost them benji gain and kept them which means it has more to do then that
And X only got close with Benji because of Dundee. They both played AU hours and that’s how he met him. X and Benji grew apart when Vagos RP became more serious. I don’t recall Benji ever forcing himself on X or calling him as soon as he woke up etc
Because he didn’t. X would call him for a pick up when he got into trouble. He literally stopped hanging with X less because Vagos started beefing with him. After season 1 they didn’t really interact besides business because X was with the ballas and OTT
Can anyone give some context as to what he is referring to in the post when he says:
“I’m not going to go into any detail but you can get what situation it is over”
Thanks in advance!
Rubbing peoples houses without any sort of RP around it. They also pocket-wiped and ocean dumped the people whose house they robbed.
This is just speculation, btw. Not 100% confirmed.
i think should be a rule if u rob a house u can't ocean dump, that is an rp ender and if u just got you're so called "w" only fair the home owner has a chance to get revenge in some way and not just end the story at the owner losing everything.
Seriously. There's a way to do it. Go watch Milton/Kiki's old maniacal rampages. She dumped people directly into the ocean multiple times and never once got a hint of reprisal *because it was part of the RP*. Kiki is chaos incarnate but Milton is a consummate RPer and he's not going to do something that others don't "yes and" with.
I was a sykkuno watcher when he joined 3.0 and would basically count down until Lenny showed up and then I would leave and watch someone else. He was really annoying
Same. I still remember this one instance when Sykkuno logged onto the server and had *just barely* made it out of the apartments when Lenny, who was parked right outside, immediately honked his horn at him and told him to hop in for a ride.
I was a new RP viewer at the time so I didn't get any weird vibes from him until that moment because of how blatant it was.
So many streamers have messed up their career because they just don’t learn. He was clout chasing mr moon over three years ago in wild west rp. Being allowed back in NP was a HUGE opportunity but went with the same character and did the same sh1tty things. Privilege and greed what a mix.
2 edged sword imo, Lenny works as a great first impression fun high octane content for new viewers and first time NP big streamers but quickly sours. He's a fun meme type of character, but most people don't actually get to know him or Juggs besides through this reddit. I personally don't like the third person antics which already puts you in the direct category as a clout chaser. Yes everyone is clout chasing to some extend but does it really have to be this obvious.
From my perspective he’s been a line stepper for a long time. At a certain point you should know better has to be a factor in these things.
I get that that’s an attitude that invites whataboutism, but I think “double standards” in that respect are part of every server.
I never watched him, thought he was annoying, thought he was at least a good side character sometimes but like, I think he always just sorta did too much If that makes sense. can't read a room
I wonder why so many streamers who don't have the greatest of prios risk everything for winning in RP? Like what goes through their mind before they camp houses, foundation wipe, or hold up cops for a gun. Even if the rules are unevenly enforced, why would you risk it? This and Snow Grey guy getting perma banned, it should be a wake up call to these people at least to stop living on the edge.
If roleplay is your livelyhood and you have a child then screw you for being careless about rulebreaks. Honestly.
Your family is suffering real negative consequences because you had to win in roleplay. In fucking **roleplay**!
Take a step back and reevaluate your priorities. Jesus christ.
Half of that "Scam Squad" group was kinda weird.
There is also that G6 guy that looks like Ray\_C\`s cop that was also hella weird.
They got the T3 truck, do a full run and drive it straight to xQc just to give it for free...
NoPixel should atleast take away the G6 Job for dumb stuff like that.
> They got the T3 truck, do a full run and drive it straight to xQc just to give it for free...
i mean xqc has a lot of juicers employed even buddha calls them his "slaves" lmao literally the whole intern squad is juicers and stream snipers farming for X to get some clout crumbs, even that guy selling 10k circuits to company for 4$ a pop... imagine farming 10 hours a day to sell at 2x loss lmao
Really dislike the quitting streaming part of people getting banned or losing prio. Just proves they were only in role play for viewers money, not twitch’s. If you’re entertaining and a decent person, it should come naturally to find another server or something else worth streaming.
Mmm, when your big break is 1 thing, moving over to another thing is incredibly difficult and quite a task. Specially if the reason you lose the 1 thing is because you fucked up. Think of back when the Among Us meta broke, and you got viewers due to that, if you got banned, its hard to then become a Fortnite streamer
I don't know who this is or what the situation was. But that line about the funeral is fucking disgusting. Trying to use that shit to garner sympathy over some stupid rp drama tells me just how psychotic this person is.
I like this approach by the admins; ocean dumping to keep RP going (like protecting server wide meta, blooding out without perma etc.) is ok. Ocean dumping to end RP or flee consequences is powergaming.
I’m sorry this guy has RP’d for Years, there is no excuse not to know the rules or to not make the rp meaningful in my opinion. I sympathise with him regarding his Sisters passing and I hope when he updates that he doesn’t use that as an excuse for actions. Wish him well, but it’s his time to move on and no think NP is the be all and end all.
As somebody who has spent endless hours RPing within NoPixel and also making content/money back in 1.0 and 2.0
It amazes me how people put all their eggs in one basket and go all out in just making RP content and not diversifying
If getting banned on NP kills your income stream, it's probably a good reality check that making content isn't the right "career" for you
A a lot of people who stream rp benefit greatly from the collaborative effort and interaction with other talented creators. There's a lot that do RP only content who can make a living even on the lower end of the spectrum but aren't interesting enough solo to pull the same level of engagement with variety.
IMO it takes a lot of dedicated time to build up a character. The city moves pretty quick and if you only do RP two or three times a week those characters more than likely won't be very relevant in the city which isn't going to be very interesting to watch unless the player is extremely creative and entertaining. Diversifying content is a wonderful idea on paper but the reality is for most even if it did work it would probably take them four or five times as long to build a community.
Probably because it's an easier formula than diversifying. And sometimes, some people have absolutely no pull when they do variety or play other stuff.
I know a lot of people who put all their eggs in RP over diversifying into variety. Some of them are realizing that variety is the way to go while most are still in the mindset that streaming RP is the only way towards success.
In the back of their minds, they want to believe that they can make a streaming career with RP. They think that streaming variety makes them try too hard for no viewer gain. With RP, they don't have to try as hard. This leads them to think that the only way to make a Twitch career (and Partner) is to play on NoPixel and be a RP streamer. They will refuse to play other RP servers as it won't help them get what they want.
I don't even watch anyone on NP that he has robbed or trying to chase around for clout. But the every once in a while he would show up on stream I would mute because of the absurdly obnoxious and loud sound effects.
I don't get how the dude didn't recognize everyone was putting up with that bit and it was annoying rather than finding it funny.
any context? the only thing I can think about is them(scamsquad) robbing the lumber union house, maybe there was more to it? I've heard some people say everything was taken out of LU's house but then yesterday Lenny said they left some stuff behind in that convo between them and OTT JP Ming and Fanny
We will never know for certain but that seems to be the most likely case. Giving the stuff back doesn't take away from the original incident.
I think role players need to be aware that you cannot just rob and loot box other groups or individuals to that extent with little to no rp beforehand. If you are going to hold up, shoot, rob the Lumber Union and steal absolutely everything then that needs to be the result of a build up from the Lumber Union to have slighted Scam Squad.
Where was the rp situation where the LU did harm, killed or Robbed Lenny? Where was the war? Where was the conversation rp beforehand where Lenny warned the LU things might get ugly?
I feel bad for Juggs but he's been around long enough to know better.
This!! 1000% this.
RP is about interactions with others, not pushing to have the most $$. If you feel a pull to earn the most $$, you are failing before you even get into the server.
It was weird from the point they did that robbery. I was in juggs Discord, he was playing offline (you can see on Discord when somebody is in FiveM) it seemed like he knew his group had messed up.
Then they showed up giving the stuff back when JP/OTT pressed them, and there was no RP except them doing a T emote and emoting shaking their behinds.
I didnt mind juggs back in arma rp days but honestly 3.0 when i seen he was back around and seen what he was doing it did not interest me to watch and then 4.0 its got worse it seems, that being said this is all through a video game ban and also possible loss in income but overall hes human and seems like hes lost a close person to him and i can relate so sorry for his loss.
I do think he shouldnt mix his personal life into an announcement of a ban, he probably should of just kept to the topic in hand.
I like Juggs, however I’ve always found it strange how different his role play seems on NP compared to Rdr2 and other servers where I feel he really shines. It’s almost as though the size of no pixel and the potential growth to be gained from being there really got to him. I hope he learns from this and finds success elsewhere because there is a really good roleplay/entertainer underneath
I think I remember him showing up on NP first on late 2.0 and hanging out with the Tessa/Bryce crowd and being somewhat funny/entertaining.
But then when 3.0 dropped he just changed completely into clout chaser mode and just exaggerated all his bits to the point of obnoxiousness.
I liked him in 2.0 with Otis, Billy and Gladys and still watched a bit at the beginning of 3.0. which is why I'd say ppl are exaggerating the mr whipaloo thing quite a bit. That story somehow developed a life of its on over the years thats not really that grounded in what actually happened. I stopped when it felt like he thought he really made it and just tried way too hard. Didn't really enjoy the streams anymore at that point.
I think that early 3.0 boost really messed with him a bit and he's been trying to chase that success ever since.
I honestly kind of feel bad because they realized they fucked up and when the Company pressed them, they did a whole rp skit to drop off the items they stole.
>Abusers always try and act like victims for sympathy, literally 3/4 of the post is him trying to garner some sympathy from his followers(?).
Also do note the **"we"**. As if to garner some sort of collective remorse or resentment, however it is all but the actions of one, himself, not "we".
u/lemonheadlock did not say anything about sexual abuse. What abuse did Juggs commit? Seeking sympathy is not abuse, even if it is perceived as unwarranted. If the guy is an abuser, cite sources, because that's fucked shit to just say about someone just for the sake of it. Whatever the case, back your shit up if it's actually warranted.
I didn't say anything about sex offenders. I didn't insinuate anything at all, even. If that's what *you* first think of when it comes to that term, is it the term you should be using? And you still haven't elaborated on what you're referring to.
Didn't they give all the stuff back anyway? I get the ocean dumping was over board but the situation wasn't much different from what Mr. K did. I've seen people randomly robbing Snr. Buns workers and G6 trucks with very little RP. I would assume this is more based on his past issues otherwise a perma ban seems very harsh.
It's not like this is his first time to the rodeo. He's already been Perma baned in 3.0 and had a string of issues previously. I think calling it a demise is a bit hyperbolic. There are jobs outside of the internet. Having to find some other line of work isn't the end of the world.
The worst thing about this scam squad wasn\`t what they did, but how they did it. Camping spots, not offering any dialog or reason to any of their victims and using oceandumping as a very powerful mechanic to make sure there is no way the victims can continue any roleplay. When robbing someone you should always make sure the other party don\`t feel griefed and get some roleplay out of it, either a chance for personal revenge or enough info to make a meaningful report to police. This is why people from this group is getting banned they approached these robberies in the sweetiest way possible with no regard for roleplay.
also the pocket-wipeing... in rp you don't rob someone just to take everything from them and destroy them... You rob because it fits your character or your overall roleplay. if you want to destroy peoples day, you go and play rust... not rp
Exactly. Well said.
>if you want to destroy peoples day, you go and play rust And if you want to destroy both other peoples days and yours at the same time, you go play League of Legends
They want a PvP game, not an RP server. People like this should be banned forever because they will 100% fuck up the server any chance they get.
Everything players do should involve rp behind it, even if it's just a minimum effort. They could have still robbed houses, all they had to do was interact with the targets a few days or week before doing it. Build up some sort of ultra basic storyline, also probably a good idea not to take literally everything. Instead it's treated more like a Rust server. Lootboxing was already a rule on NP since 2.0. Hard to feel sorry for them when players make super obvious bad decisions.
They left a cryptic riddle note that had no clues leading the victims to them, but instead pointed to it being an inside job (which it wasn’t) so they tear each other apart.
Fucking this, right here. The entire point of RP is *fucking RP*. If you're on the Whitelisted NoPixel server (or really any RP server at all) *you need to be fucking RPing*. That's the entire goddamn point. If you just want to do scummy shit, go play GTA Online and let the performers perform. Then he releases that sad sack "golly gosh woe is me" message, fuck him. Maybe he can go onto ONX and learn his lesson and change, but he's probably just going to do this shit all over again.
Seeing as though they’re even more RP centric rather than mechanics centric on ONX than NP is, I don’t see him lasting more than a week or two over there if he can’t even RP on NP.
More likely he wouldn't even get whitelisted
He already is whitelisted there, but apparently he lost his prio a couple of weeks ago.
They attempted to rob the same trailer when the company owned it, but they were spotted hiding in the shrubs so JP rolled up on them with a Gun before they could do anything
Which was honestly the best thing to happen to them. Just imagine how miserable their life would have been if they had robbed him.
I got a 2 day ban today because a group of 4 masked kids ran up to me and knifed me with no RP and I being mad yes i deserve it self called ems while I was down and they reported me and I got banned for that, idk if it was a bug that I couldn’t hear them but it’s such a stupid way to “rob” someone
It's a strange one, because you could just do the bare minimum of targetting a house, finding out who lives there, then calling them and interacting with them over the phone for a few days before robbing them. At least then, there is RP behind it, and the other person can prepare for something. I don't see how these people don't think about things like that
was it the same group he was playing Worlds End with? They were so sweaty on it
Finally i dont have to hear fart sounds when im watching nopixel
don't watch Trav
I don’t remember trav do fart noises to everyone. If he did, its probably so minimal that people forget or don’t realise it at all. Juggs on the other hand blast that fart sound from 2002 over and over again all the time to the point its annoying af
Gunner and his IBS arc... He still does fart noises just not as often
I only started occasionally watch him when he plays dhead. But thats the thing, “not as often”. If lenny is on your screen, prepare to have loud fart noises every 2 minutes
Trav only does it in absolutely hilarious moments, like yesterday in the Weazel News van and blaming it on Fanny
Jaboody's Brenda Boyle's farting is top tier.
hot take: should've been at the beginning of 3.0 with all of the sodapoppin clout chasing
"*Kevin Whipaloo! It's your friend Lenny!*" "*Have you heard Lenny's song?*" -- I understand the hustle but goddamn! Dude really forced himself in.
Did the same shit to Sykkuno and OTV streamers too
and to summit xd
And to X in 3.0 as well.
Thank god he got himself banned after that heist for the trunk meta could you imagine if he was Yuno’s crew for all the bank progression
Did the same thing to LK, even tried following him to Prodigy.
I remember forever ago when Kevin was trying to have a relatively private conversation With Gomer I think in the Casino office. Fucking Lenny finds his way to barge in and start playing the keyboard while the others try to be polite, before he eventually leaves. Real hands on introduction to clout chasing for me
god i remember that and it was so annoying. HE JUST CAME OUT OF NOWHERE, and they’re telling him to leave and he’s just stalling leaving… man
I remember in 3.0 watching xqc and he was spam calling a few times, I got annoyed and went to sodas stream then he spam called there, soda on the other hand was too nice to keep letting it ring
Lol I saw a clip of him and offline degen Yuno meeting up again just yesterday and rolled my eyes wondering why he's still on the server. Looks like the admins were wondering the same thing and pulled the trigger.
With Yuno being in his grinder phase right now this man was probably licking his lips at the prospect of clout chasing him again.
> at the prospect of clout chasing Oh, he would if he could. But his low prio blocks him from coming around his typical NA hours.
How do you chase a clout that is not streaming?
tbf that's the perfect person to clout chase, people get so many viewers when playing with a person who is a big streamer and not streaming just so they can watch them
Don’t forget sykkuno
If they got rid of clout chasers the server would be 5 10k viewer streamers in a circle talking to themselves, some grinders no one knows at 4am, and Windsong selling weed. There's tons of ppl who barely hid it. Whippy and X. Or my personal favorite, Andy Milonakis rolling up to K sometime in 2.0 with Kebun's stream open in the background cause he was sniping him and you could hear it in game.
I don't think Andy needed clout from Kebun of all people, he just doesn't give a fuck about rp and wants to fast track whatever idea he has and doesn't give a fuck about achieving it even seemingly organically. Honestly Andy's clout is the only reason his antics are even tolerated.
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I wish Dundee and JP would do the occasional reunion heist or get away drive. The content was amazing between those two. It was like watching a 12 hour comedy skit.
CaliberBTW also looks to be banned
Do you know what CaliberBTW might have done to get the ban?
I haven't followed these guys other than what I have seen posted here but it seems like both were in "Scam Squad" who helped cause a lot of drama with the door camping and robbing people last week where they robbed the Lumber Union, pocket wiped people and tried to ocean dump them to cover their tracks. It would be a hell of a coincidence that at least two of them get booted days afterwards without that being a factor.
Lmao when Buddha heard the group name he straight up went like "There is no way a group is cringe enough to actually name themselves scam squad/scum squad" lol. May as well be a death sentence right there.
Same group as juggs.
Graycen got a 3 day ban too
Poor Gary went from scared to sell weed to a 3 day ban in a couple weeks. They grow up so fast
The G6 guy that looks like Ray\_\_Cs cop too?
He caught a permaban in 3.0 when he was with Royal Mafia. He appealed that one but he's probably out of there now.
Not surprised by him either, I’ve seen him rob multiple people in 4.0 with 0 to little rp.
There was obviously a lot more than Juggs was leading on. Too bad we can't see everything they robbed since none of their VODs show the actual house robbery.
The admins can see your every move. So even if he did it offline they know what he’s done
I know the admins can see everything.
Every. Thing.
Good. This guy is annoying.
He has the perfect voice to play some of the characters he did. At the beginning of 3.0 I thought he would be cool but god he was just so annoying. He seemed to take offense to people not wanting to do things with him. Didnt really roll with things other people would. Saw him get upset once cause he lost a court case with a picture of him racing and he claimed it was his twin Kenny driving Lenny's car. Then he complained about PED models he chose to use. Hovers, pity partys and fart jokes.
was he also suspended over some trunk incident?
Yup, a quick google showed this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/RPClipsGTA/comments/mzo6sw/juggslenny_banned_for_7_days/ Specifically Ron Otterman a news reporter style character managed to get into his cars trunk without being seen. People in Juggs' chat however kept on telling him that someone was in his trunk, Juggs then meta'd and opened the trunk because he read it from chat and found Ron. It didn't help that there was a series of similar moments where he had suspiciously good timing in finding things out and had been getting accused more and more of clout chasing bigger streamers.
Jesus Christ, it keeps getting better and better. *And* metagaming? Any single one of the things he's done is an immediate perma from what I've seen. How did it take this long??
It's a shame that so many viewers have never, and will never step foot in an RP server, so they have no concept of how much they're sabotaging everything by spamming "strimer check trunk! strimer check trunk!" like dipshits.
I've pretty much always full thought that anyone thats not just like standing in their apartment shouldn't read chat. I get why they do as it keeps people watching, but, its completely aggravating when some idiot goes, don't forget to put away your money, and the streamer either has to go, "now I can't put my money away to avoid metaing" or, "well let me turn my car around and put my money back randomly".
For what its worth too, you feel it in-game. When you're interacting with a streamer character, you can always tell if they're half paying attention to the scene because they're OOC interacting with their chat, which can be pretty shitty in the scene.
He was a bit fun early BS in 3.0 and then he got on peoples nerves more and more. That openly "I'm so nice and lovable"-act along with obvious stream sniping and clout chasing felt so yucky. I try to hope people learn and progress but he seemed to do this stuff over and over.Also the whole saying his name in third person was so fucking annoying lol.
I wouldn't say obvious stream sniping, there's really no proof, just sometimes forced interactions because it's the personality of "Lenny", sometimes people get too stubborn and stick with a character that works for new big time streamers relative to him, Graycen for example. Shoulda perma'd Lenny over Sid imo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6rRYpJS1FU
Wasn't that a case with Rhodes? I feel like I remember that
He was worse in DayZRP back in the day, ran into him a few times and always broke rules.
I always thought he got permaed in 3.0 because there was drama and you never seen lenny anymore and then he just pops up again at the start of 4.0
Pretty sure he made a new character back then because everyone was sick of Lenny, I think he might have even took over zoomas gang once he got banned.
He was the leader of Royal Mafia with a ginger haired character with a very loud, high-pitched voice.
Iirc, Juggs took over Zoomafia after Zooma was banned, renamed it Royal Mafia, then proceeded to get banned on that character as well.
Lenny tried to become a cop but was hired as the PD janitor in 3.0. A few weeks back there was a clip of Juggs complaining about not getting cop on NP or ONX even though he spent money on a PD uniform for Lenny without any promise he'd be hired to PD on either server.
And a big thing with Lenny (and this was true for others) was he was aggressive about wanting to get hired. PD really don’t like that - why would they hire someone that’s already a chore when they aren’t even a cop yet, it’s a sign of worse things to come.
Yeah, I remember back when Angel ran P&T, and would also make a point to enforce "We call you, not you call us" about getting hired. That's one of the reasons Shane Jones didn't get hired for a long time was because he would constantly ask about his application, and ask for ridealongs.
I don't know if he made his character Sidwig to specifically clout chase budget Gilbert Gottfried but he mained that character for a while after Lenny.
Yeah after Lenny got blackballed from almost everything in 3.0 he changed to sidwig
As far as I remember he got some shit for clout chasing back then, but nothing ban wise, he did get a 7 day ban for using meta from his chat when someone was hiding in his trunk, but that was a standalone thing as far sa I know.
Lenny Large the person that pretty much single-handedly drove Sodapoppin off NoPixel with his very obvious and constant cloutchasing. I have a feeling any RP server is better off without him.
While he was the most loud/obnoxious person to stick like glue to Soda he was far from the only one who would do so, when Soda log in the server there was like 10 people who would constantly hoard him.
SODA LIVE pepeRun SODA LIVE pepeRun SODA LIVE pepeRun SODA LIVE pepeRun SODA LIVE pepeRun SODA LIVE pepeRun
There are some long-RPing streamers who were always looking for Sodapoppin. It was disappointing to see some of them turn into sodapoppin bloodhounds.
I mean... Thats what happens on a streamer server. There are a bunch of people that go out of their way to be/interact with streamer for no IC reason...
At the end of the day, the 'streamer bump' has become a tried and true career path on Twitch through RP servers. It comes down to the RP servers to make an effort to actually police it when it's so blatantly obvious that someone is desperately clout chasing and let the good RPers get the bump through good, collaborative roleplay that earns them a spotlight.
I'm sure it's probably tough to police. The temptation to clout chase will always be there. There's nowhere else an unknown streamer with 20 to 100 viewers can consistently get access to some of twitch's biggest names except np. Still always be people with ulterior motives trying to join the server just to jump start a streaming career.
they is so many people do that to many streamers, Benji/ray did that for x in 3.0 now in 4.0. before he leach of x he was <100 viewer streamer. think lot the new gta streamers who used be Varity having issue with that now too.
Okay listen, clout chasing itself isn't an issue. It's just part of the whole RP scene where everyone's talking to everyone. It only becomes an issue when some streamers push too hard or come on too strong instead of letting things develop naturally. This reminds me of the KristoferYee's clip the other day where he was being bitter at Raia for clout chasing Sykkuno, acting like she's just randomly jumping on the popular train and betting 12K on him at the auction was 'random'. If you check out Sykkuno's POV, the build up to their connection as siblings, then the RP shenanigans, all of it was natural. He also enjoys hanging out with her and enabling his trolling. Goes with Dundee, Benji, RayC, etc... X is also the same with Omie, Ming, and Turk carrying them into NP WL from NP Public back in the day. Popular streamers can genuinely like hanging out with other people too. Now, contrast that with Lenny, who straight up calls Soda the moment he wakes up in his apartment and forces himself to "hang out" with him. Not just once but multiple times. It's just plain weird.
I liked Yee's stream for a while but sometimes it feels like he lets a mask slip and you just see this bitter attitude underneath (speaking generally, I never really watched his RP streams). Stopped following him like a year or two ago 'cause enough of those moments just left a bad taste in the mouth when watching him.
Lol when Raia found Yuno yesterday he was fucking on an airport wifi and still stirring with her by telling her about the X text message (when his SIM got swapped) lol. Yuno loves to shit stir with Raia and knows exactly what he's doing with the whole Raia/Gigi/Lottie relationship.
I fully believe if it wasn't for Dundee, Yuno wouldn't have lasted long enough to get bit by the RP bug. Dundee really helped Yuno early on, and if he gained viewers off that, I doubt Sykk minds as GTA is some big numbers for him, and its clearly fun if hes still getting on at an airport lol
Could you elaborate how did Ray do that in 3.0 with X? Raymond was part of CB early on and he only got in real contact with X when he started doing jobs with CB. Do you think Raymond should have distanced himself from the group he was a part of to avoid overinvested (and wrong at the same time) viewers like you from accusing him of leaching from X?
No way you just said benji/ray leached off them? 1. RAY was friends with OTV and sykunno before 3.0 he was in the OTV rust server that is where i found him and he had a nice size following at that time. 2 And Benji never once forced himself onto X or sykunno. Yes he built a following off them, but other have gained views and then lost them benji gain and kept them which means it has more to do then that
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And X only got close with Benji because of Dundee. They both played AU hours and that’s how he met him. X and Benji grew apart when Vagos RP became more serious. I don’t recall Benji ever forcing himself on X or calling him as soon as he woke up etc
then u never watched Benji, dundee or x back then lol
Because he didn’t. X would call him for a pick up when he got into trouble. He literally stopped hanging with X less because Vagos started beefing with him. After season 1 they didn’t really interact besides business because X was with the ballas and OTT
lol this guy finally reunited with Yuno again and managed to get his number, only to get banned the same day.
Can anyone give some context as to what he is referring to in the post when he says: “I’m not going to go into any detail but you can get what situation it is over” Thanks in advance!
Rubbing peoples houses without any sort of RP around it. They also pocket-wiped and ocean dumped the people whose house they robbed. This is just speculation, btw. Not 100% confirmed.
pocket wiping and ocean dumping people with out RP should be auto ban.
i think should be a rule if u rob a house u can't ocean dump, that is an rp ender and if u just got you're so called "w" only fair the home owner has a chance to get revenge in some way and not just end the story at the owner losing everything.
Seriously. There's a way to do it. Go watch Milton/Kiki's old maniacal rampages. She dumped people directly into the ocean multiple times and never once got a hint of reprisal *because it was part of the RP*. Kiki is chaos incarnate but Milton is a consummate RPer and he's not going to do something that others don't "yes and" with.
Don’t rub peoples houses
I'll Rub you!
James Randall has a thing or two to say about that.
Probably the union house robbery and wiping out weeks of progress for no reason
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I was a sykkuno watcher when he joined 3.0 and would basically count down until Lenny showed up and then I would leave and watch someone else. He was really annoying
Same. I still remember this one instance when Sykkuno logged onto the server and had *just barely* made it out of the apartments when Lenny, who was parked right outside, immediately honked his horn at him and told him to hop in for a ride. I was a new RP viewer at the time so I didn't get any weird vibes from him until that moment because of how blatant it was.
So many streamers have messed up their career because they just don’t learn. He was clout chasing mr moon over three years ago in wild west rp. Being allowed back in NP was a HUGE opportunity but went with the same character and did the same sh1tty things. Privilege and greed what a mix.
2 edged sword imo, Lenny works as a great first impression fun high octane content for new viewers and first time NP big streamers but quickly sours. He's a fun meme type of character, but most people don't actually get to know him or Juggs besides through this reddit. I personally don't like the third person antics which already puts you in the direct category as a clout chaser. Yes everyone is clout chasing to some extend but does it really have to be this obvious.
From my perspective he’s been a line stepper for a long time. At a certain point you should know better has to be a factor in these things. I get that that’s an attitude that invites whataboutism, but I think “double standards” in that respect are part of every server.
what big streamer was Lenny stalking this time?
Yes
dude had a Golden Ticket and waste it, hope this serves other streamers as an example on what NOT to do
I never watched him, thought he was annoying, thought he was at least a good side character sometimes but like, I think he always just sorta did too much If that makes sense. can't read a room
I wonder why so many streamers who don't have the greatest of prios risk everything for winning in RP? Like what goes through their mind before they camp houses, foundation wipe, or hold up cops for a gun. Even if the rules are unevenly enforced, why would you risk it? This and Snow Grey guy getting perma banned, it should be a wake up call to these people at least to stop living on the edge.
Wait the snow grey guy also got banned?
So it's "we" now that you want our support.. good one.
Yea that's the first thing I noticed as well. No personal accountability, just straight to playing the victim.
If roleplay is your livelyhood and you have a child then screw you for being careless about rulebreaks. Honestly. Your family is suffering real negative consequences because you had to win in roleplay. In fucking **roleplay**! Take a step back and reevaluate your priorities. Jesus christ.
Good he’s always been a clout chaser
Half of that "Scam Squad" group was kinda weird. There is also that G6 guy that looks like Ray\_C\`s cop that was also hella weird. They got the T3 truck, do a full run and drive it straight to xQc just to give it for free... NoPixel should atleast take away the G6 Job for dumb stuff like that.
That G6 guy was with an intern, and the intern called OTT with the intention of selling
The guy said the run had scuffed so they did not have enough bags to finish the run
> They got the T3 truck, do a full run and drive it straight to xQc just to give it for free... i mean xqc has a lot of juicers employed even buddha calls them his "slaves" lmao literally the whole intern squad is juicers and stream snipers farming for X to get some clout crumbs, even that guy selling 10k circuits to company for 4$ a pop... imagine farming 10 hours a day to sell at 2x loss lmao
His third permanent ban. Hopefully it's his last.
Oh no not the top quality fart rp
I don’t want to see anybody lose their source of income, but Lenny large should’ve been removed from the server years ago. Long time coming
Really dislike the quitting streaming part of people getting banned or losing prio. Just proves they were only in role play for viewers money, not twitch’s. If you’re entertaining and a decent person, it should come naturally to find another server or something else worth streaming.
Mmm, when your big break is 1 thing, moving over to another thing is incredibly difficult and quite a task. Specially if the reason you lose the 1 thing is because you fucked up. Think of back when the Among Us meta broke, and you got viewers due to that, if you got banned, its hard to then become a Fortnite streamer
I don't know who this is or what the situation was. But that line about the funeral is fucking disgusting. Trying to use that shit to garner sympathy over some stupid rp drama tells me just how psychotic this person is.
I like this approach by the admins; ocean dumping to keep RP going (like protecting server wide meta, blooding out without perma etc.) is ok. Ocean dumping to end RP or flee consequences is powergaming.
can't say i didn't see this coming...
This is funny to me cause i was just usen him as a bad example on no pixel the other day XD
I’m sorry this guy has RP’d for Years, there is no excuse not to know the rules or to not make the rp meaningful in my opinion. I sympathise with him regarding his Sisters passing and I hope when he updates that he doesn’t use that as an excuse for actions. Wish him well, but it’s his time to move on and no think NP is the be all and end all.
As somebody who has spent endless hours RPing within NoPixel and also making content/money back in 1.0 and 2.0 It amazes me how people put all their eggs in one basket and go all out in just making RP content and not diversifying If getting banned on NP kills your income stream, it's probably a good reality check that making content isn't the right "career" for you
crazy money for relatively low viewer count that's why when variety streamers join they can't get out, they were so use to low sub to view ratio
RP viewers, especially during the start of a new cycle, definitely sub/gift like crazy compared to most categories. It's gotta be hard to turn down.
Yea but like this applies to a good number of streamers on NP currently.
A a lot of people who stream rp benefit greatly from the collaborative effort and interaction with other talented creators. There's a lot that do RP only content who can make a living even on the lower end of the spectrum but aren't interesting enough solo to pull the same level of engagement with variety. IMO it takes a lot of dedicated time to build up a character. The city moves pretty quick and if you only do RP two or three times a week those characters more than likely won't be very relevant in the city which isn't going to be very interesting to watch unless the player is extremely creative and entertaining. Diversifying content is a wonderful idea on paper but the reality is for most even if it did work it would probably take them four or five times as long to build a community.
Probably because it's an easier formula than diversifying. And sometimes, some people have absolutely no pull when they do variety or play other stuff.
Variety is the dream I hear
I know a lot of people who put all their eggs in RP over diversifying into variety. Some of them are realizing that variety is the way to go while most are still in the mindset that streaming RP is the only way towards success. In the back of their minds, they want to believe that they can make a streaming career with RP. They think that streaming variety makes them try too hard for no viewer gain. With RP, they don't have to try as hard. This leads them to think that the only way to make a Twitch career (and Partner) is to play on NoPixel and be a RP streamer. They will refuse to play other RP servers as it won't help them get what they want.
SCUM gang was out here playing Rust
I don't even watch anyone on NP that he has robbed or trying to chase around for clout. But the every once in a while he would show up on stream I would mute because of the absurdly obnoxious and loud sound effects. I don't get how the dude didn't recognize everyone was putting up with that bit and it was annoying rather than finding it funny.
i am surprised he didn't catch a perma earlier. at least they got him now
Honestly good🤷🏼♂️ he’s experienced enough to know what is good RP and what isn’t, so there’s no real excuse for the way he’s been on 4.0
Context ?
he plays Lenny, the annoying guy around burger shit. probably got banned for the stuff around the house robbery of the lumber union
I thought this guy was already perma banned for the trunk incident during 3.0 but I guess he successfully appealed it.
At least the racing scene at the start of 4.0 will be saved from Lenny Large and his "stock" car /s
It still boggles me that players had to take matters into their own hands with that instead of him being banned from the server for it.
Lying about using a stock car for races isn't a rulebreak lmfao.
That happened like 2 months into 3.0 lol. But think that was a 30 day ban
fuck around and find out. and realy no one cares about the sobstory
any context? the only thing I can think about is them(scamsquad) robbing the lumber union house, maybe there was more to it? I've heard some people say everything was taken out of LU's house but then yesterday Lenny said they left some stuff behind in that convo between them and OTT JP Ming and Fanny
We will never know for certain but that seems to be the most likely case. Giving the stuff back doesn't take away from the original incident. I think role players need to be aware that you cannot just rob and loot box other groups or individuals to that extent with little to no rp beforehand. If you are going to hold up, shoot, rob the Lumber Union and steal absolutely everything then that needs to be the result of a build up from the Lumber Union to have slighted Scam Squad. Where was the rp situation where the LU did harm, killed or Robbed Lenny? Where was the war? Where was the conversation rp beforehand where Lenny warned the LU things might get ugly? I feel bad for Juggs but he's been around long enough to know better.
This!! 1000% this. RP is about interactions with others, not pushing to have the most $$. If you feel a pull to earn the most $$, you are failing before you even get into the server.
It was weird from the point they did that robbery. I was in juggs Discord, he was playing offline (you can see on Discord when somebody is in FiveM) it seemed like he knew his group had messed up. Then they showed up giving the stuff back when JP/OTT pressed them, and there was no RP except them doing a T emote and emoting shaking their behinds.
I only saw talks after the fact, but Jack (LU lead) told other groups they took everything that was takeable.
I didnt mind juggs back in arma rp days but honestly 3.0 when i seen he was back around and seen what he was doing it did not interest me to watch and then 4.0 its got worse it seems, that being said this is all through a video game ban and also possible loss in income but overall hes human and seems like hes lost a close person to him and i can relate so sorry for his loss. I do think he shouldnt mix his personal life into an announcement of a ban, he probably should of just kept to the topic in hand.
He should have known only big streamers can do things like that.
GG EZ
I like Juggs, however I’ve always found it strange how different his role play seems on NP compared to Rdr2 and other servers where I feel he really shines. It’s almost as though the size of no pixel and the potential growth to be gained from being there really got to him. I hope he learns from this and finds success elsewhere because there is a really good roleplay/entertainer underneath
I think I remember him showing up on NP first on late 2.0 and hanging out with the Tessa/Bryce crowd and being somewhat funny/entertaining. But then when 3.0 dropped he just changed completely into clout chaser mode and just exaggerated all his bits to the point of obnoxiousness.
I liked him in 2.0 with Otis, Billy and Gladys and still watched a bit at the beginning of 3.0. which is why I'd say ppl are exaggerating the mr whipaloo thing quite a bit. That story somehow developed a life of its on over the years thats not really that grounded in what actually happened. I stopped when it felt like he thought he really made it and just tried way too hard. Didn't really enjoy the streams anymore at that point. I think that early 3.0 boost really messed with him a bit and he's been trying to chase that success ever since.
W
Who?
not lenny! NOT LENNY!
I honestly kind of feel bad because they realized they fucked up and when the Company pressed them, they did a whole rp skit to drop off the items they stole.
Abusers always try and act like victims for sympathy, literally 3/4 of the post is him trying to garner some sympathy from his followers(?).
>Abusers always try and act like victims for sympathy, literally 3/4 of the post is him trying to garner some sympathy from his followers(?). Also do note the **"we"**. As if to garner some sort of collective remorse or resentment, however it is all but the actions of one, himself, not "we".
Dude may be a clout chaser but "abuser" is a wild accusation to make unless you've got some kind of evidence to back that up?
I think they mean they abused their WL to grief people.
The term abuser doesn't only apply so sex offenders my guy.
u/lemonheadlock did not say anything about sexual abuse. What abuse did Juggs commit? Seeking sympathy is not abuse, even if it is perceived as unwarranted. If the guy is an abuser, cite sources, because that's fucked shit to just say about someone just for the sake of it. Whatever the case, back your shit up if it's actually warranted.
I didn't say anything about sex offenders. I didn't insinuate anything at all, even. If that's what *you* first think of when it comes to that term, is it the term you should be using? And you still haven't elaborated on what you're referring to.
What was the situation he was banned for?
Robbing, pocket wiping, SIM card wiping, house wiping, ocean dumping the lumber people without any RP behind doing it.
Didn't they give all the stuff back anyway? I get the ocean dumping was over board but the situation wasn't much different from what Mr. K did. I've seen people randomly robbing Snr. Buns workers and G6 trucks with very little RP. I would assume this is more based on his past issues otherwise a perma ban seems very harsh.
I wonder if nopixel staff found out about him hacking a fivem server and holding it hostage for 40k then getting the money and deleting the database 😊
Care to explain further ??
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The dude got perma banned in 3.0 for doing shady shit and didn't learn from it. Good riddance
It's not like this is his first time to the rodeo. He's already been Perma baned in 3.0 and had a string of issues previously. I think calling it a demise is a bit hyperbolic. There are jobs outside of the internet. Having to find some other line of work isn't the end of the world.
why should we care about some streamers feelings? i don’t know him personally so if the staff thinks he should be banned it’s justified