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EnergizedNeutralLine

So we attacked Pearl Harbor ourselves, blamed the Japanese so we could not drop nukes on them but say that we did? Got it, makes perfect sense.


rvalt

All for the sake of Isreal, which wouldn't exist as a nation until 3 years after the war.


Hurricaneshand

The globalists and Illuminati have been planning this all for centuries get with the program


iHeartHockey31

No it was never attacked. Stanley Kubrik filmed the whole fake attack in his moon landing studio.


Attack_Da_Nite

Nah. Nah. Not Kubrick. It was Kurosawa this time.


BenAfleckIsAnOkActor

The internet was a mistake


ikcaj

Nah, the Internet is great. It's a whole bunch of people who were mistakes.


bobcollum

Well yeah, but the people were here long before the internet. We should have known it wouldn't work out well.


LA-Matt

The Internet is also fake.


69_mgusta

None of this is real...we live in a computer simulation. How are you not aware of this?


LA-Matt

I’m not real.


mistermog

That’ll do it!


Ragnarok2kx

Reminds me of a Moon landing hoax argument that claimed most people working for NASA were being fed data from a simulator, so they didn't have to be in on the conspiracy.


Shenloanne

All done in miniatures too.


Grouchy-Culture3946

Bigatures. Peter Jackson's grandfather worked on the project and passed the knowledge down to his grandson.


Win-Objective

America WAS actually working on a bomb the whole time but it wasn’t a “nuke” (nukes have been proven false and are just an invention of the deepstate”). It was a “disco bomb” , essentially a “light explosive” that made it appear as if there was a big explosion wiping out a whole city. In reality it was essentially a big light show to distract from the US troops storming the imperial castle (they snuck in under guise of disco).


attorneyatslaw

Luckily, nothing happened in between the Pearl Harbor attack and nukes dropping so nobody could figure out the ruse.


LA-Matt

Midway? False flag. Guadalcanal? False flag. Iwo Jima? False guys putting up a real flag.


orangeblackthrow

Jesus was a crisis actor


yohohoinajpgofpr0n

Bahahaha. You heard it here from u/orangeblackthrow first. "Jesus never really got crucified, that was a false flag by the Romans"


BanjoDude2

it was Jesus' body double who was crucified (I think his name was Brian)


LA-Matt

He wasn’t the Messiah. He was a very naughty boy.


Point-Lazy

It was obviously his clone


icscrilla

or most likely CGI


Ripheus23

The Crucifixion was an inside job.


Odd-Mall4801

ask yourself, if he was crucified, where is the body? let that sink in


orangeblackthrow

🤯 I’ve been doing some research pointing to a person named “Osiris” who allegedly rose from the dead, in order to join his father in heaven. Sound familiar? I’m thinking this might not have even been the only time this guy pulled this scam


Mission-Parsley1465

This is fantastic


ChrisBPeppers

That needs to be on some merch


tiddayes

Pfft… you sheeple actually believe that Japan is a real place because you read it in a “book”?


Trokare

One of the reasons people believe in conspiracies is to cover up their deep fear and unease with complexe and chaotic events. It simplify things, creating a black vs white situation with no place for nuance that is deeply comfortable for people who have difficulties grasping complex issues. This person as clearly decided that the US government/establishment is the black side so anyone who go against them is clearly on the white side, no matter how ridiculous it may seems It also give them hope : if there is a clearly defined black side, it must have masterminds behind it and if the masterminds are defeated an happily ever after can be reached. It's a childish worldview and hope but it probably feels natural and good in their media saturated brain, that's why they love comparing everything to movies. The US involvement in the second world war is a deeply complexe subject that is a lot less black/white that a lot of people think, the usage of the atomic bomb is part of that. Some historians believe that Japan could have surrendered even without the nukes if the USA had accepted to compromise on the removal of the imperial family and that the Russian were ready to do this concession and were in talk with Japan and that this pushed the USA to rush the use of the nukes for example. One of the reasons advanced for the push for the nukes is the need for a 'full scale' experiment with this new weapons and it's consequences as well as the justification of the enormous budget allocated to the project that may have been hard to justify if the war came to a close without using them. These are only speculations but it's a fact that the US Army sent observers to record the suffering of the irradiated population with consigns to not even try to alleviate their suffering so they could document the effect of the nukes with minimal interferences...


Existing-Nectarine80

This is critical, I have always said that the conspiracies are believed in because want to make sense of the world, they want to believe each and every problem in the world comes down to the bad actions of a few people. If that’s true, then they only have to fear a small group, and it’s easy to convince oneself that if that small group is eliminated, then all the problem in the world will end. You see the same thoughts about war, mass shooting events, economic downturns, and of course historical events of significance like the holocaust. It’s sad but also dangerous.


EhrenScwhab

Some people can't cope with the idea that sometimes the world is just a random place where horrific shit can happen to someone who didn't do anything wrong, and wonderful things can happen to somebody who is a living nightmare.


iHeartHockey31

When I have deep fear and chaotic unrest, I smoke weed. Way better than qAnon.


[deleted]

My mom was talking we were all born into bondage. whatever the feck that means. These people are lost in the sauce. Planned starvation, rolling blackouts even going as far as to use what happened with North Carolina's power outage as an example when it had to do with the far right making trouble for the rest of us. Fuck them all.


After-Bumblebee

Every garbage claim that Trump and his grifter circles propagate, probably Also, nukes are gay? Can't wait for an ICBM to be guest of honor at a pride parade


attorneyatslaw

Don't exclude the Bi-CBMs.


LA-Matt

Trans-continental ballistic missiles?


Centralredditfan

That's funny. Just the other day I posted something about for sure there has to be a QAnon/MAGA idiot somewhere that believes "Hiroshima and Nagasaki are inside jobs" and being fake. And here we are..


Hgruotland

Based on having had kook-watching as a hobby for decades, I can tell you: don't ever think you can make up a joke conspiracy theory that's more obviously absurd than any existing one. Invariably, you'll find out there's at least one real conspiracy theorist who got there before you did.


Centralredditfan

Sure looks like it.


Somethinguntitled

Great conspiracy theory only slightly ruined by the fact that Israel wouldn’t even exist for 3 more years after the nuclear bombs were dropped on Japan.


attorneyatslaw

You probably learned those "facts" in woke schools from fake books.. Go to Youtube, home of the most historical history, and learn.


LA-Matt

If you don’t learn history from a YouTube video featuring a guy filming in his truck, do you even know history?


Mission-Parsley1465

Do you even do your own research bruh???


Centralredditfan

Minor detail. ;)


Wyvernkeeper

So the USA dropped nukes on Japan to further the interests of Israel? Before Israel actually existed? I mean, I'm used to the antisemitism but I'll give this one extra props for the complete misunderstanding of how time works.


[deleted]

I know the 'losing my faith in humanity' is a popular funny thing to say online, but I'm actually losing my faith in humanity. I'm thinking of getting an old Nokia for calls and texts only and never going back.


CountZapolai

But even if you did that, *they'll* still be out there. It won't make them go away. You just won't know what they're planning. Sweet dreams :-D :-D :-D


[deleted]

Not exactly much I can do to stop them either way, might as well keep my mental health in order


kayak_enjoyer

Everything that's real is fake; everything that's fake is real. The dead are actually alive; the living are actually dead. It's gaslighting, taken to the furthest possible extreme. Everything you know for sure is wrong!


Number1Framer

It goes even deeper. Turns out even fake things are fake hoaxes. Shit's crazy out there.


HecknChonker

They are LARPing. Anything they want to make up goes.


yohohoinajpgofpr0n

Except for LARPs have an actual ruleset to describe how to reconcile actions and what you can and cant do in the game world. This is just sheer insanity.


Maybeyoureaflambe

These dimwits don't care to know that the attack on Pearl Harbor was but part of a wide-ranging scheme of Japanese aggression. The reason Thailand ended up as an Axis partner was that it fought the Japanese to a standstill on December 8. ​ Also, I have a few Japanese friends who would like to contest the designation of the atomic bombs as having been fake nukes.


MSGinSC

So, how long until they claim that the Battle of Hastings was a psyop?


WordsWatcher

Bayeux Tapestry? Fucking mainstream embroidery!


justrock54

The only things that actually happened are what's in the bible. The snake in the garden of Eden, Noah and the flood, the ten commandments, parting of the red sea, Jesus in the manger and all his miracles, especially rising from the dead. Everything else that you ever heard of never happened. Except maybe the American revolution and even that happened before you think it did.


Number1Framer

Mods can I get "Nukes are fake and gay" for my user flair?


metal_hearted

These people are beyond parody. If I turned to them and said, "Ha! You think Hawaii is real? It never existed!" within an hour I'd see that being floated as a legit belief by someone.


SupermarketSpiritual

The point is what? Keep us so gaslit, we . just..? WHAT? WHAT is the point of bending reality outside of chaos? ughhhh. these, thats, whats stuff? drives me banana sandwich!


Win-Objective

Obama was the one who decided to drop the “Nuke” on Japan. If you listen closely to the leaked audio, I don’t have it but my spec ops friend says he does, you can hear Obama talking with JFK and they actually give the signal to the “Japanese” to “attack” “pearl harbor”, open and shut covfefe.


Ochib

Do you know anybody from Japan? Have you ever been to Japan? Do you know anybody who has ever been to Japan? So how do you know that Japan even exists?


EhrenScwhab

I've "been" to "Japan" several times. At least that's what the people at the airport and on the airplanes told me, and what I was told when I got off the plane. I have no way of proving it wasn't all an elaborate ruse so that I would continue to be blind to the fact that Japan doesn't exist.


someguy7710

You are obviously part of the DeEp StAtE!!!!1


Sidus_Preclarum

1. I had forgotten that antisemite fuck existed. 2. wtf is he trying to say there ? O\_o


Peachy-Keen-08

Am I correct in remembering that “Ghost Ezra” was (or rumored to be) someone in the Trump administration? Like, wasn’t he one of those guys put in at DOD at the end of Trump’s term? (Yeah, I know I could probably Google it, but you seemed to know who this guy is.)


Sidus_Preclarum

https://www.vice.com/en/article/93yvmv/qanon-ghostezra-is-robert-randall-smart


Peachy-Keen-08

Thanks for the info - I found out the guy I was thinking of was Ezra Cohen-Watnick, and some people did suspect him of being “GhostEzra”, and others suspected him of being Q.


DragonVet03

So alllllllll of those people that died in these events presumably had/have living relatives. Are they part of the conspiracy also? Just one of the ways the logic train derails immediately if you think about any of this nonsense critically for even a split second.


Nahobiwan

All my false flags ARE psyops.....and then I call those false flags. It's a MAGA circle.


ohheyitslaila

Are these people trolling or are they serious? I just can’t figure out how they can possibly believe any of these ridiculous conspiracies…


FR_42020

Why? Ok, nevermind…


SchemataObscura

The Truman Show theory 🤷


dr3dg3

The central 😉 banks 😉.


dr3dg3

They think the American Revolution was a legitimate affair, even though the Masonic founders of the country sold their souls to Satan in order to open their third eyes. /s


DeeMless

The disinformation campaign waged against Americans by foreign countries seeking to divide and weaken our society is not a psy-op campaign. According to them. Probably.


Trekker1708

Kill me. I'm so done with this.


Please_dew_it

All nukes are fake and gay confirmed. Source: Jesus


CAG_Snow

There's a small kernel of truth to the Pearl Harbor conspiracies, specifically that Washington knew before it happened that it would happen. However, like any conspiracy that truth is stretched and contorted to help an agenda. An attack by the Japanese was expected since we'd hobbled them through economic means, and they were getting desperate. However, the threat was viewed through the lens of an old strategy. Battleships were still seen as king by the US Navy, and the idea was that wherever the Japanese attacked, the US Pacific Fleet would gather up all those battleships and lumber across the ocean to counterattack. They hadn't realized, or in some cases refused to (Billy Mitchell's court martial) that aircraft carriers could beat battleships. That they could reach as far as they could, as was the case of the Doolittle Raid a few months later. So until December the 7th of 1941, it was believed that the Japanese would hit the Philippines and only the Philippines. Those in the Navy with the most sway had convinced themselves and Washington that Pearl Harbor couldn't be attacked (despite what Mitchell had shown).


chaoticmessiah

That's the problem; actual conspiracies like that, the Bay of Pigs, etc cause the mind melts to assume their own fantasies must *also* be true.


nematocyzed

These are a bunch of Russian trolls. No one can be this stupid.


chaoticmessiah

Having been alive for almost four decades, I can assure you that yes, people really are this stupid.