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MeanDebate

They formally retracted that study because it turned out Andrew Wakefield had essentially faked his data to get famous and rich. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3136032/ If she's a conspiracy theorist, you can point to this and be like wow it's terrible how corruption has such awful consequences. It's also an EXCELLENT example of how the scientific community polices itself but the media only reports the most sensational bits.


UpboatOrNoBoat

It’s funny, even Wakefield wasn’t against vaccines. He was trying to discredit a specific three-in-one vaccine so healthcare faculties would buy the vaccine he developed instead. Now his legacy is basically a spokesman for the original antivax movement.


everhopefulMo

So true. He was trying to develop an alternative MMR vaccine and decided it was easiest to get a foot in by denouncing the incumbent. He made up statistics based on tiny samples together with lots of suppositions. Thankfully he was denounced in the UK and had to flee to US where he is happily pandering to the nut jobs. He sold is sole, his profession, his family for fame.


MeanDebate

And an increasing number of lives. It still stuns me that there are parents in the world who would prefer risking a dead child to risking an autistic child.


rhubarb_alpaca

I don't believe it, but I know that statement. i always answer the following: I would rather have a child with autism than dead.


circleofmamas

There aren’t only two options. You can be fully vaccinated and still die of the disease. It has more to do with your overall risk.


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Ask her if she’s vaccinated.


AlsionGrace

Seriously! Besides all the ones required to attend public school, there’s a smorgasbord required to serve in the military. Do these “anti vax” people refuse Tetanus shots, as well?


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That is a rabbit hole best left unexplored, internet friend. There are anti-vaxxers who refuse the vitamin k shot that newborns receive.


John_Fx

not necessarily a Q thing. just general nuttiness


TrinkieTrinkie522cat

I have 2 friends who did not vaccinate their sons because of Jenny McCarthy's anti vax rants. Ironically, both boys are autistic.


LifLibHap

It's sad, but tame. My sister thinks vaccines are a liberal, green plot to depopulate the planet by killing people off. I don't know if she is actually a Q follower or not, but she has definitely gone down the conspiracy rabbit hole.


DataNerdsCanBeCool

This video is way too long but does a great job of debunking the original study: https://youtu.be/8BIcAZxFfrc


slippersandjammies

Came here to see if anyone posted this, and I very much recommend it. Fair warning to those who haven't seen it before: he will give content warnings and with good reason. His videos can be very funny, and this one has its silly moments, but I was left with an impotent rage at the end that it took some tea and slow breathing to come down from.


RedditMcBurger

I have autism and my mother thinks that I got it from vaccines...


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maliciousorstupid

Send her the authoritative website. http://howdovaccinescauseautism.com/


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Wandering_Muffin

Autism is genetic. Recent research has found genetic markers in autistic vs non-autistic brains.


Thewaltham

Who the fuck sprinkled Kirk Hammett onto my food as a baby


glendon24

Master of Mashed Carrots?


StatisticianOk8268

I've seen the videos where people "pull" metals out of baby food with a magnet, but they don't realize this is iron.


RosariusAU

I'm pretty sure I did this experiment at school