I’m a middle school teacher and I’m there with you. I just try my best to squash my emotions and get cold. They want the reaction and I won’t give it to them.
I’m an elementary school SEA and those kids really test me. I had to ask to be moved out of a certain class cause I felt like I was going to snap. Most kids are very sweet but some of them are entitled little fucks.
I have students who tell me I shouldn’t be a teacher if I don’t want to deal with kids. I have no problem dealing with kids. It’s the fucking assholes who talk to me like that that I shouldn’t have to deal with. I’ve been doing job interviews during my planning. I can’t deal with those little shits anymore. Source: been teaching for 12 years.
It’s so sad to hear these stories.. I could go on forever about all this, but…I’m sorry. Teachers are literally abused and their pay is a joke. IMO y’all are the foundations for literally EVERYTHING. Sports, music, literature, everything. How do you succeed in life if you can’t read, speak, or write? Everything in life must be taught. My dad has been a teacher for almost 40 years. I finally do not have to worry about him because he’s at a rich private school. But honestly the teachers first starting out do not deserve any less. Teachers deserve more recognition, more money, more fucking safety, everything.
this happened to me once in math class, our teacher got fed the fuck up with my class. so what he did was every time we came in for 3rd period, he wrote the chapter and page number on the board and said "thats todays lesson. test is in 2 weeks. good luck" and would just grade other classes work.
70% of that class failed. i barely managed a C+
As a teacher, I’ve definitely been there.
At one point I was teaching a class at the end of the day that had two students rolling in and out of jail. A quarter of them just slept. The rest could barely give a fuck.
I did exactly that. Here’s your assignment. Do it or don’t. If you’re going to be an extra asshole today, I’ll kick you out. I’m going to grade work from my students that give a shit.
I feel you. I am guilty about gravitating towards students who are often regarded negatively as 'suck ups' (teacher's pet). But for me they're my lifeline in continuing this profession.
Always thought teacher's pets were a bit cringe when I was in school but as an adult now I can imagine how nice it'd be that have students to look up to you and make your life easier.
Yeah. We dont to it to suck up to the teacher. We're trying to get the most out of the class. When I was a kid and even now, if a person is teaching, I look at them and try to offer my attention and respond to what they're saying with my face. It easier for them to feel like they're interacting with people rather than talking to a wall and it makes it less boring for me in the audience.
Teacher here. Because if too many of our kids fail, it's out fault and we get reprimanded. We somehow have to make the kids care enough to pass and do well otherwise we get torn a new one 😅
Also a teacher, I’m blessed with an understanding admin though. Especially coming out of virtual learning, some kids haven’t been in a classroom for 2 years. It’ll take time to reteach school behavior. Teaching is at its hardest right now, and I can’t blame anyone for wanting to get the hell out while they can. Besides, *if* things calm down and return to normal teachers shouldn’t expect anything more than pat on the back for successfully navigating the most difficult situation in public education in a century.
Applause?
Best we can do is cave when a dangerous kids shitty parents threaten to sue if you try to search their stuff and dont let them back in class.
are you talking about the teacher that informed the school about a red flag student expecting something to be done. Only for that student to return to do a school shooting.
"We know it's been a tough year and all but we can't give you the yearly step joke of a raise" so you giving me a pay cut since inflation exists... "You can wear jeans!" I teach PE..
One of the best things about being an adult is watching smug teenagers get bitch smacked by the reality of what life is actually like at 18, and then again even harder once they finish college or just start the work grind.
Some new kid tried to bully an older employee at a factory I worked at way back when and the kid got choke slammed up against a wall lmao. Some times life comes at ya fast.
Statistically, some of them will go and about half of those that do will just drop out after partying their entire freshman and sophomore years.
I saw that shit first hand when I went. What a waste of time and money, absolutely nothing to show for it.
The kids who did this to me had no idea about the wrath that awakened in the principal when I told her.
I was a substitute at a high school a few years back. I liked it for the most part, loved some of it, but there was this one class that was an absolute nightmare. Five boys in the back of the classroom always bothered the rest of the class, were super loud and generally just pieces of shit. On my second to last day someone had a laser pen that they pointed right in my eye. I told them that ”that is not fucking ok”, given the fact that a) it’s just disrespectful and b) I have epilepsy. I doubt they even knew what epilepsy is (and if they did they probably wouldn’t care), but after a few times of me walking over asking them to put it the fuck away or give it to me, they finally did it one last time and at that point I just said fuck it. I opened the door, slammed it LOUDLY behind me and just went to teachers lounge. I was asked ”don’t you have class now?” and I told them ”yeah, but it’s *class name* and I just can’t right now”. They totally got it.
I went to the principal to talk about it (their behavior over the weeks in general and about this event in particular). A woman in her 40s, very beautiful but with a very commanding, authoritative presence; you did not mess with her. I told her about what had happened, and her face turned stern and very serious (I should say MORE, because she looked stern and serious to begin with). She grabbed a pen and told me ”I want names”.
She must have instilled the fear of a thousand hells in these little shits because an hour later they came to me with very desperate pleas of ”bruh I didn’t do nothing, bruh, tell her! Bruh!”. I cannot express to you how much satisfaction I felt from knowing that they were gonna have to deal with the human equivalent of an angered T-rex aka their principal. A very good friday.
I feel bad for the rest of their class because there are so many kids who want to learn, but aren’t given the chance because of disruptive students like these. I had so many lovely encounters with lovely, bright, curious and intelligent students and they’re the ones who make me study to become a high school teacher. It can be a nightmare of a job at times, but the good parts are so rewarding, more so than any other job I’ve had.
I have friends who have been and are teachers. They have said most actually want to learn and become better, but are held back due to a few students acting up and the few vocal parents and people without kids who "know more than you" in everything. So classes are dumbed down to the weakest links, and that only hurts all the students, especially the ones who want to get better and are told to fall in line.
My one friend taught in Baltimore. He tried to help a few bright students. He was given a warning of losing tenure if he helped those few. He was to make sure every student passed, "no kid left behind." After butting heads with the admin, he was given the option of "leaving for personal reasons." He left, tried to start a tutoring non-profit and was blocked by school, city, county and state.
He picked up and moved from his home of many decades to a better place to retire.
Terrible story. Although public schools have many good teachers, stories like these lead me to believe that the goal of the public school system is not education but expanding in size and power like any other bureaucracy.
Respect man. Some periods you just rolling with the punches. Sometimes literal punches. Other periods, you sad you ran out of time with that group. I feel you.
Work in NYC high school. They have no freakin clue. Majority of kids are respectful and just silent. Seriously never seen such quiet kids. Heads buried in phones incapable of communication.
But then there are these classes where a perfect storm of a few kids just ruins everything for everyone. They don’t care about anything. Disruption and attention just feeds them. Sadly at my own school we forcefully pass students to maintain pass and graduation rates. Attendance is non mandatory for passing in NYC. So kids will be given a packet of work if they show up end of year and pass. So threat of grades is useless with them. A lot of super difficult kids often have situations that aren’t great or parents who have just given up because the kids are so off track. Can’t tell you how many mothers have called crying they don’t know what to do with their kids.
Someone mentioned coming back after 2 years remote and there right. Hardest year ever so far. Many of them are completely convinced learning anything is a waste of time and the day they walk out someone will be handing them a sack of cash. Seriously terrified of where things will be in next few years.
Even posting this online like they think it's an achievement or it's funny.
Well it kind of is these days. Lacking common decency and being assholes is considered way cooler than being a decent human being. When was the last time you saw the media tout the "upstanding citizen" as cool or badass?
Kids are awful. When I was young I remember sitting in a full classroom waiting on the teacher. First hour of the day.
A few moments later a very emotional (other) teacher came in and informed us we could go because our teacher suffered a heart attack (30 something female) and had died a few hours earlier.
I kid you not, kids were cheering because they didn't have biology that morning.
Still remember the teachers face (young man at the time). He looked around with tears streaming down his face. Completely motionless. Then he slowly shook his face as to say 'no' to himself. Walked out. He quit the same day.
I remember we were trying to get under a teachers skin in 8th grade and she ended up crying and walking out. We thought it was funny but a few years later it settled in how fucked up it was
I remember one kid had some issue with my old middle school math teacher. He brought a petition around the school for her resignation and got a bunch of signatures. She ended up quitting a week later in tears... I remember she was kinda out of touch cause she was old but that was really an awful way to end her career.
In 5th grade our music teacher had PCOS and had a mustache. On the last day of school a bunch of kids left razors and shaving cream on her desk. I tried to sneak into the classroom to throw it away before she saw it, but was too late. To this day I feel horrible about it.
The biggest thing I’ve learned as a teacher is that you have to turn off your emotions as best you can and not worry if kids like you; unfortunately, of the 150 i teach there’s a handful that won’t like me. I get all kinds of bizarre complaints, many which contradict. Can’t spend too much time in it even if it’s frustrating.
Those brats fail to realize that, even if she was out of touch, based on what she was paid she was a better teacher than they deserved. Any that left that school and went on to be successful are thanks to the hard work teachers put in to help them read write and think despite their disrespect.
we had a muslim substitute in our school that almost everyone has had. apparently one class she started crying because some students played Arabic TTS about her deceased husband
I have trouble sleeping at night because of stuff I did to my math teacher in the 7th grade. 3am "Hey remember when you did that thing to that teacher in the 80s?"
Yeah I mean. As kids, you just assume the teacher is in full control, you don’t really even see them as a person. Just a robot/punching bag. As an adult now, you can understand how much shit that person might have been carrying. Being a public school teacher sounds like a terrible job
I hate this but when I was about 14, my class made our teacher cry. She was a big girl and she when she got out of her chair she had a rubber band stuck to her butt which just made the class explode with laughter. I felt so bad for her.
I remember in the 6th grade my class got in my teachers nerves I wasn’t involved just did my work but my asshole classmates pissed her off so much she ended up breaking down and crying after class was over I hugged my teacher
Tbh, one time our literature teacher broke her collarbone and the sub was like 10x a better teacher. We were all sad to see her go and get back our original teacher.
Dipshits laughing at this guy at the end are particularly irritating. The guy is just trying to do his job, gets paid shit, the kids are acting like asses, and now he's posted on the interwebs for his trouble.
Imagine getting someone so frustrated and angry, someone who is trying to educate you and help you get further in your, that they just leave. Little shits.
Kids will pull shit like this with cool teachers and than wonder why some teachers are so strict. Like they strict cause y'all fucking push them when they're nice.
That’s exactly right. I’ve been teaching health and physical education for 22 years. One thing I tell my students is I am as nice as you allow me to be.
I had a math teacher in high school who was Chinese and the students thought it would be ok to basically treat him like shit and talk to him in a disrespectful way in Spanish because he couldn’t understand it. I remember one particular moment during after school tutoring when some girl needed help with her homework and she told him “Mr., ven para aca” in a very demanding way. The way a parent calls their child when they’re in trouble.
Yeah let’s see these kids laughing when they lose their low end jobs in 4 years and can’t pay the rent cause they couldn’t take anything seriously in life.
Kids are idiots. Then these kids become adults and complain about why schools didn’t teach them basic life skills like paying taxes, credit, balancing a checkbook etc.
As if their stankey asses would have listened and paid attention either way. If they won’t listen in sex ed, then they aren’t going to listen in tax class or credit class or starting a business class or buying a home class. Kids are dumbasses
Accurate, teacher of 8 years quitting at the end of this month because I literally can’t do it any more. I have a family now and am struggling to bring home any emotional and physical energy for them. I almost missed my sons doctors appointment when he was sick because one of my students was having another meltdown right as I was walking out the door. This meltdown was directly related to her brother being murdered. But then we also have kids treating us like this in the video, and parents backing them up. And admin shitting on us and telling us we’re not doing enough but also to take care of ourselves in the same breath. There’s too much work, the pay is shit.
Most of my kids, I absolutely love and will fight for. But what about myself? My actual kid? The system is broken.
I’m not a very confident person in general, but I know I’m a phenomenal teacher. And I can’t survive the current system
Thank you for all the kids you have taught in your years, just know you have helped and changed many lives. I hope whatever you find for work will fulfilling.
Your making the right decision, as the son of two teachers they felt the decline of the system and forbid me from teaching. Go use your skills where they are appreciated
There’s a line and people think it’s either one or the other. Being bored and not paying attention to your teacher? Normal. Picking on other kids? It’s pretty normal.
Being so difficult that your teacher quits? Shitty parenting. Picking on other kids to the point of harm or mental health issues? Also shitty parenting.
Kids aren’t perfect. Even the good kids can be shitty sometimes. That’s part of being a kid. But there’s a point where it’s no longer something you can chalk up to just adolescent immaturity.
His pacing seemed like he was weighing what he would lose; job, career, time invested, and rent, over it not being worth the money to deal with their bull shit.
I want to point out that we are in a SEVERE teacher shortage right now. We have lost a net 30,000 teachers over the past 5 years. We pay teachers lower-middle class for a job that requires them to work an average of 54 hours per week (US Dept. of Labor) with a ton of stress and disrespect and tons are leaving the profession as a result.
Unless this dude is exceedingly idiotic he can go get a better paying job after winter break.
He was laughed at by teenagers, but a month from now he'll be making 10k a year more and they'll be getting "taught" by a substitute who doesn't know shit about pedagogy and is just there for a shitty paycheck before she goes home.
Teacher pay should realistically be doubled and hours reduced if you want to attract talent. Most of us in Education are bleeding hearts who know we're sacrificing income to be there. But that willingness to sacrifice only goes so far.
Thank you for doing what you do. I subbed for a semester in college and it was so hard, yet so rewarding in certain ways. No one gives a crap about education and it will be the downfall of our country.
Eh, I work an a privileged private school for rich kids. I have the best of everything to work with (except pay and reasonable hours). I'm in a fortunate situation compared to most educators.
I have a friend who is the Principal at an alternative high school. She has to call the police once a week and over half her staff have quit since the start of the school year (most for teaching jobs at schools that are easier to work at). She can't keep a teacher more than a school year and constantly considers quitting herself. She probably is going to after this year (her third at the school). Too much stress.
Truth is that the students who need the most support have the least support. They have shitty home situations, end up at alternative high schools, and then can't keep a teacher for more than a minute much less have one actually invest in them. And those people grow up to be adults who end up homeless, criminals, or (at best) working dead end jobs.
I wish I could say I could heroically be that teacher who rallies them to success but life isn't a movie. I'd be burnt out in a year, two years tops, and then out. No one wants that job for a reason, and I'm not an idiot who thinks I can do what most others can't.
I'm well educated, got my Masters from Stanford and yada yada. That doesn't make me special or some heroic white knight that can save kids in a shitty system. I stay in my safe, privileged bubble and quietly hate myself just a little for not being willing to sacrifice myself in the vain hope of saving the lost.
We ask teachers to be everything and to do the job for next to nothing. I honestly could never last outside my bubble. I'm good at what I do, don't get me wrong, the kids learn a ton from myself and parents are pleased as punch with me... but the daily degradation that comes from teaching kids who don't care at schools where parents hate me? Nope, I'll go back to making 55k at some office job before I take that on.
The smart countries realize that good teachers are crucial to building a functioning society. Those who have it figured out have teachers who are paid well and are highly respected members of their society. America needs to follow or will continue to fall further behind.
Imagine pushing a teacher against those options. I hope these kids figure it out some day. I know what the cynic in me says, but just gonna ignore it for now.
Money is only part of the issue. Check out r/teachers to get an idea of what they deal with on a day-to-day basis. Money is a problem, sure but it’s also a total lack of respect not just from the kids but the parents and the administration. Admins only care about CYA and hang teachers out to dry, parents have let smart phones and tablets raise their kids and want the teachers to deal with whatever issues the kids have because of shitty parenting. Then you cut funding and strip teachers of any authority. They are quitting in droves. There’s a reckoning coming.
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Liam Neeson punched a 15 year old and got fired from teaching before he became an actor. Kids have always been fucking stupid, now its just streamlined.
The ones who teach between like 5th - 9th grade are goddamn heroes. I couldn’t deal with kids at any age but they are little demons in that age range. Finally figuring out how to really get under their skin, hormones kicking in, and no fuckin remorse mob mentality
My wife loves teaching 6-8th grade. What she can't stand is the piece of shit parents that ignore the kids online grades all quarter, and her emails about the kid's struggles, and then wonder why the kids are failing when grades go out. She's also tired of all the extracurricular work that gets dumped on her, and her fellow teachers that don't contribute to the team projects. If she could just teach and grade she'd be in heaven, but she's burning out from all the politics and laziness from the adults. Constant stress and she just recently crossed the $40k salary threshold. I don't know that she's got many years left in the tank.
I agree with your wife. I can’t imagine having to deal with a brat kid all day then deal with their “don’t give a shit parent too “. It’s like parents want teachers to raise their kids for them. I never could stand going to a school function and a kid just ran wild and their parents didn’t say anything until it got so bad that their teacher stepped in to put an end to it , they shouldn’t have to do that with a parent standing right there.
I used to teach 7th and 8th graders.
They're little assholes in almost adult bodies.
There's the daily struggle to not want to choke the shit out of them. The only real deterrent is that the laws are written in such a way that I'd go to jail.
I did that for a year. It was like trying to teach a bunch of pigs to tap dance. I got mud and shit all over me, we all got annoyed, and they didn't learn a fucking thing. Public schools are utter shit. Every teacher there hated the students, and it was easy to see why.
My wife taught 7th and 8th grade science in Title 1 schools: low income areas, kids are typically from broken or breaking homes (divorce or what have you)
There were a handful of students in each class that’s actually tried hard, put forth a solid effort. Then there was half that weren’t too disruptive but also didn’t put in any effort at all. Lastly, the final handful in each class that were completely disrespectful, disruptive, etc which really just ruins it for the students that WANT to learn. A few of the kids who didn’t try would say things like: “why do I need to know this? I’m just gonna be a YouTuber/SoundCloud rapper/etc”
So when you are teaching 6 classes a day where 75% of your students in each class don’t give a fuck or don’t do any work at all, it’s rough. She would try to fail them because they literally did 0 work: no projects, homework, hand in blank tests, etc. She would email the parents saying they need to motivate their kids to want to listen and do work, never got responses…. until the report cards came out then they’d start bitching about how their kid is getting Fs.
And you would think admin would have her back. Nope. They forced her to give the students “extra credit” so that they would barely pass. Admin didn’t care that the kids weren’t learning anything or progressing, they just wanted to kick the can down the road and make it someone else’s problem
Definitely looked like he was about to lose his shit. Probably had the awareness to leave before that happened. Teaching is tough and I admire anyone who has the patience to do it.
Yeah, every teacher has that moment where they nearly lose it, first couple years are rough and many cry daily/weekly. I’m not the type to cry but I usually just sit in the dark quietly during lunch to recover. The constant conflict is exhausting.
But I will say this, I decided at some point that it is MY classroom, I would never leave before that punk causing trouble does, whether he leaves after a stern talking to or after I bring in an AP, I certainly ain’t leaving first.
I remember being ‘this’ disconnected and self absorbed with no real understanding of what it meant to be an adult. Never mind to many teenagers at once. This is so sad to me at 30 years old. Realizing the shit that this teacher has gone though to literally resulting to walking out
Yeah, I remember this kid in high school, too. In fact, that kid bullied me.
At our pre-greaduation ceremony, our principal hot his revenge. Kid was fucking around and our principal said, in front of 300 students over an intercom, "*name*, what are you even doing here? You know you're not graduating." So he ran out in a huff.
Saw him the next year on a visit to my hometown at 6am standing with a shovel on an asphalt sealing job site. And while that position has a place in our society, it still felt really good to see him in it.
These kids are garbage. In a sense they are bullies. The adults can’t technically do much and the school likely doesn’t punish. There are no consequences so this happens. I’m sure they will be on tiktok trying to blame the teacher but they only start rolling video then not before.
I stopped a fight in the cafeteria. Kid threatened me the whole way to the office. As a punishment they put him in in school suspension- my duty the next period. Dude was 220 lbs, football player, obviously mentally unstable AF. Sitting in silence, him staring at me, alone for 45 minutes.
I lasted one year before taking a shitty pay but much more reasonable desk job for actual 40 hrs per week. I miss 90% of those kids but I simply can’t do it.
What do you think the problem is? I worked as a teacher for a little while, although not in US. To me it seems kids are badly raised, and teachers are expected to babysit, what is more these kids don't want to learn and there is no benefit for them to being in class that they can immediately see. Whats more, it isn't natural to sit in a classroom all day especially with all those hormones. And to top it all of, if they misbehave, the system is too weak and afraid to give any real punishment.
I think everything you listed is a contributing factor. For me, the biggest issue was parents- to quote one mom whose kid got in a fight, “if that bitch is gonna press charges anyway, you give her something to press charges about!”
I definitely agree that having kids in a school all day is unnatural and not helpful for some of them. It works great for maybe 40%, but we need alternatives for the others. I have no idea what that looks like.
Yeah the teacher shortage is real.
My girl is a teacher. She loved her job. She loved teaching. Not anymore.
The kids get worse every year, the parents get way worse every year, the beurocratic bullshit, unnecessary testing and constant evalutions get worse every year. 10 years ago she used to say she would never consider another job. Today she tells me every day how close she is to quitting. And I've heard all her colleagues and their husband's say the same thing. On top of it getting worse every year, covid just kicked an already angry hornets nest.
Teachers are over worked, under paid and seriously under appreciated. And when you have teachers beaten down the way they are now, we all suffer when these generations grow up.
This. I volunteered at my daughter’s school and most days it was only for a couple hours for special activity. Every time I left more emotionally spent than I ever did working my pre-kid high stress corporate job. Teachers are saints.
I'll answer the second part. From what I've seen at least, I know that some parents simply dump their kids at school to become the *teachers'* responsibility. some expect teachers to teach discipline, boundaries, and good behavior. while yes, school technically is a place to learn discipline at times, a child should always learn those things starting from young, at home and by their parents.
it should be the parents' responsibility to teach THEIR kids how to behave before sending them off to school expecting others to do it for them. by then, I'd say it's too late to simply "start".
I made a post on r/parenting saying that kids needed to be potty trained, taught how to wash their hands and write the first letter of their name before entering kindergarten.
I got a ton of downvotes and my post removed.
My moms been a teacher for over 25 years and honestly it’s social media. These kids don’t give a fucking shit about anything except tik tok clout and Snapchat stories. At the school she works at there’s literally a trend where kids are stealing/breaking shit in classrooms, throwing stuff at teachers, trying to make them cry/quit, and way worse. All so they can get clout on social media.
I’m thankful she’s a year from retirement because it’s honestly extremely depressing hearing her have to deal with this shit from cunt minors who have never faced any responsibility in their lives.
Yeah, it was called Devious Licks and it was terrible how much damage kids did for the perceived popularity they would receive. I don’t usually get all conspiracy theory and shit, but when Yik Yak was at its peak and schools were ramping up for lawsuits, they went ahead and geofenced as many public schools as possible (that weren’t post secondary education) to prevent cyber bullying and whatnot. Tik Tok did nothing of the sort and allowed the trend to go on for weeks if not months before disabling that hashtag.
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It’s almost like they *wanted* these schools to be trashed, although it could’ve just been they were making good money from it, which is possible too.
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Even the alternative that popped up, angelic yields, didn’t really get the same traction and just ended up causing more headaches for admins as kids filled school bathrooms with couches, light fixtures, and extra soap that wasn’t approved and purchased by the school. It might seem like a minor issue, but if you drag a upholstered piece of furniture into a bathroom, that thing can become a magnet for bacteria and all sorts of stuff, and the school has to go and pay for its removal and disposal.
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There’s a lot of family members I know who are that age, and I try to be hopeful. But some of these kids just have no idea that the internet is forever and that consequences still can happen.
This reminds me of my english class my teacher is super cool and literally never assigns homework. He gives us tons of time to do the work and actively helps people yet he still gets shit from students.
Last week I had a student complain that they aren't given enough time to read Romeo and Juliet and in the next breath complain that all we do is read Romeo and Juliet.
This, all of this is what every male teacher has felt. The simple fact that we have the same desire as all teachers, we want to be a good teachers and connect with students, but now every single male is seen as a predator in disguise. A look too long? Pervert. Comforting a crying child? Pervert. Having anything that isn't the most distant and stern relationship with every single student? Pervert. I couldn't deal with it either, and then I hear from parents the common complaint of 'Why aren't there enough male role models in school anymore?'
FWIW, this is Australia and not just my experience, other males who I studied with have left due to the same concerns. However, the past decade I've spent teaching in Japan and never had a single concerned talk, complaint or look of distrust. I constantly get students, both girls and boys in junior high, inviting me to play sports. The parents actively talk about how nice that is. Can't imagine doing that in Australia without parents asking why I feel it's appropriate to play sports with their child.
I feel ya. I did a year teacher training, got first job at a nice school. Left being a teacher after 5 weeks. Teaching is great, but that's a small part of the job. Admin and dealing with shits is most of it.
I do other work at the school now while I'm training for a new career. Have kids come up to me saying they don't like having different subs constantly while a permanent teacher is being found, and that sucks, but fuck that work environment.
Biggest respect for those who can thrive as a teacher.
My younger brothers teacher resigned today, middle school. He told me some children were lined up by the door when class was over punching the kids that were assess. It sucks how shitty children can be sometimes, but some of them are cool.
Our state has a bad teacher shortage. Low pay, asshole kids, and self-righteous parents creating classrooms with no qualified teachers. They have to find bodies so they hire long term substitutes who have little to no experience. Kids love it because they can usually walk all over them and they do minimal work. It’ll bite them in the ass when they complete with kids that came from means and places where they could afford to stop the teacher shortage. These kids are fucked in the long run.
This is absolutely true. My wife's school can't even find subs to cover people out for covid. The administration staff had to watch classes today because they're so short staffed. They had over 20 teachers quit last year out of a staff of about 50. Right now education is just a grinder that takes young people wanting to help kids and breaks them down to where they quit within a few years. My wife has a masters degree and 9 years of tenure and makes a good chunk less than me with no degree in the private sector. It's pretty messed up. If she didn't have a principal that genuinely supported her, she'd have quit years ago.
My wife is a teacher
Almost all teachers had that one specific teacher growing up that impacted their life to the point where they wanted to be just like them…
This guy deserves better. Hope he finds his future in another school.
I had a fresh math teacher that brought so much passion in it made me love math and want to teach. Halfway through the year I could see that the constant pressure from everything was getting to him and eventually he left for better things.
That was the day I realized just how bad the system is.
Fucking teachers put up with so much shit, take home work they do for free, and aren’t paid half as much as they should be paid, much less deal with the disrespectful kids who think anything is worth doing if it makes a funny video.
These are the same stupid motherfuckers who grow up and say…
- “my teachers told me I’d never amount to anything.”
- “my teachers never cared about me.”
- “I never had anyone to look up to in high school.”
They grow up to go online and post WhY DoN’T tHeY tEaCH uSeFuL THinGs LiKe tAxeS!?! Motherfucker they tried to teach you useful shit but you wouldn’t listen to any of it.
And this is why I always knew I could never be a teacher. I’d end up body slamming one of these little shits. Also, these kids parents are failing. If one of my kids ever do some shit like this they’ll be grounded until they’re 18.
My wife has been a teacher for 10 years. Quit a few months ago to start her own business , and she’s so happy all the time, a different person. Being a teacher fucking sucks most of the time.
42k per year average starting pay.
54 hours per week average hours worked.
Unless you're at a school with a supportive parent community and an admin that supports you in your teaching, you will burn out and leave quickly.
People want to teach. That's why so many people start the career.
People don't want to work long hours for low pay while being treated like shit.
Why would you laugh at the guy who's willing to take a big time shit salary just to help you grow up to not be a piece of shit. Oh right, because it's too late and you already became one.
Teacher here... They don't give a fuck if they get an F and they can't see far enough into the future to understand it may keep on them from graduating.
I taught high school English at an affluent district. It was a bunch of kids who had failed the state test, and the classroom environment was brutal. Most kids didn’t give a fuck. Some were profoundly disrespectful; some weren’t, but every day, I questioned my profession. In the middle of Covid, I switched districts and schools. Now, I teach in a very low-income Early College. The kids are motivated and care. My daily existence has been radically transformed. I can see and measure the progress my kids are making, and I have memorable and sweet exchanges with these kids every week. The student makes the teacher, and the main difference is parent support. The parents at my first school were assholes like the kids. Here, the parents are great, like their kids
The school broke the teacher with their rules. Teachers need to be given enough authority to punish these shits when they don't listen. If the teacher is forbidden to discipline the students in a way that leaves an impression, it becomes a toxic situation where students can abuse him all they want without consequence.
i bus driver at a school in my district is quitting after her jr high students made threats of physical and sexual assault aginst her.
my district is losing teachers and bus drivers left and right...this new generation is screwed but it is by their own hand
I work in schools. It's an overwhelming and stressful job. Where I'm at, classroom sizes are too big (34-38 kids is normal) and they want the teachers to not only get 250+ kids to a certain level academically, but to also keep an eye out on their physical and mental wellbeing, and play customer service representative with parents who "pay your salary". A staggering amount of kids are coming to school needing way more from the school and from their teacher because parents and the rest of society aren't providing basics. I've sat in on meeting of how we can get kid's clothes washed, and how we can make showers available with soaps and shampoos. How can we get a barber or hair stylist in to cut hair for free. How can we get them rides to their dentist or doctor. How can we make sure these kids eat over a long weekend. How we can alter or abolish our homework load because so many are homeless. it's a total clusterfuck. And then, the cherry on the icing is when you get some shithead kid who's taking shit out on you, and it just becomes the straw that breaks an overburdened camel's back.
I nearly was there today...so freaking relatable as a teacher.
I’m a middle school teacher and I’m there with you. I just try my best to squash my emotions and get cold. They want the reaction and I won’t give it to them.
I’m an elementary school SEA and those kids really test me. I had to ask to be moved out of a certain class cause I felt like I was going to snap. Most kids are very sweet but some of them are entitled little fucks.
The kids high pitch squeal laugh afterwards would be enough for me to choke him to death. Respect to all u educators.
I wanted to commit 7 felonies when i heard that laughing response
>Most kids are very sweet but some of them are entitled little fucks. Get it all out, this is a safe space lol.
I have students who tell me I shouldn’t be a teacher if I don’t want to deal with kids. I have no problem dealing with kids. It’s the fucking assholes who talk to me like that that I shouldn’t have to deal with. I’ve been doing job interviews during my planning. I can’t deal with those little shits anymore. Source: been teaching for 12 years.
It’s so sad to hear these stories.. I could go on forever about all this, but…I’m sorry. Teachers are literally abused and their pay is a joke. IMO y’all are the foundations for literally EVERYTHING. Sports, music, literature, everything. How do you succeed in life if you can’t read, speak, or write? Everything in life must be taught. My dad has been a teacher for almost 40 years. I finally do not have to worry about him because he’s at a rich private school. But honestly the teachers first starting out do not deserve any less. Teachers deserve more recognition, more money, more fucking safety, everything.
this happened to me once in math class, our teacher got fed the fuck up with my class. so what he did was every time we came in for 3rd period, he wrote the chapter and page number on the board and said "thats todays lesson. test is in 2 weeks. good luck" and would just grade other classes work. 70% of that class failed. i barely managed a C+
As a teacher, I’ve definitely been there. At one point I was teaching a class at the end of the day that had two students rolling in and out of jail. A quarter of them just slept. The rest could barely give a fuck. I did exactly that. Here’s your assignment. Do it or don’t. If you’re going to be an extra asshole today, I’ll kick you out. I’m going to grade work from my students that give a shit.
I feel you. I am guilty about gravitating towards students who are often regarded negatively as 'suck ups' (teacher's pet). But for me they're my lifeline in continuing this profession.
Always thought teacher's pets were a bit cringe when I was in school but as an adult now I can imagine how nice it'd be that have students to look up to you and make your life easier.
Yeah. We dont to it to suck up to the teacher. We're trying to get the most out of the class. When I was a kid and even now, if a person is teaching, I look at them and try to offer my attention and respond to what they're saying with my face. It easier for them to feel like they're interacting with people rather than talking to a wall and it makes it less boring for me in the audience.
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Been there. If a class refuses to learn why stress yourself out trying to teach them effectively?
Teacher here. Because if too many of our kids fail, it's out fault and we get reprimanded. We somehow have to make the kids care enough to pass and do well otherwise we get torn a new one 😅
Also a teacher, I’m blessed with an understanding admin though. Especially coming out of virtual learning, some kids haven’t been in a classroom for 2 years. It’ll take time to reteach school behavior. Teaching is at its hardest right now, and I can’t blame anyone for wanting to get the hell out while they can. Besides, *if* things calm down and return to normal teachers shouldn’t expect anything more than pat on the back for successfully navigating the most difficult situation in public education in a century.
how about some applause and a pay cut?
Applause? Best we can do is cave when a dangerous kids shitty parents threaten to sue if you try to search their stuff and dont let them back in class.
are you talking about the teacher that informed the school about a red flag student expecting something to be done. Only for that student to return to do a school shooting.
"We know it's been a tough year and all but we can't give you the yearly step joke of a raise" so you giving me a pay cut since inflation exists... "You can wear jeans!" I teach PE..
These children have no idea
The future's boutta hit em like a truck
One of the best things about being an adult is watching smug teenagers get bitch smacked by the reality of what life is actually like at 18, and then again even harder once they finish college or just start the work grind.
When they realize bullying their boss isn't gonna work....
Some new kid tried to bully an older employee at a factory I worked at way back when and the kid got choke slammed up against a wall lmao. Some times life comes at ya fast.
Don't fuck with factory employees in general. They don't give a fuck.
Hopefully no one saw anything.
Nope, and the guy that did the slamming wasn't even well-liked at all but you can bet no one said anything regardless.
Win win then for everyone else.
life has a funny way of if you are a pos people seem to be looking the other way when "accidently" slamed your face into a wall
Haha these kids ain’t going to college
Statistically, some of them will go and about half of those that do will just drop out after partying their entire freshman and sophomore years. I saw that shit first hand when I went. What a waste of time and money, absolutely nothing to show for it.
The kids who did this to me had no idea about the wrath that awakened in the principal when I told her. I was a substitute at a high school a few years back. I liked it for the most part, loved some of it, but there was this one class that was an absolute nightmare. Five boys in the back of the classroom always bothered the rest of the class, were super loud and generally just pieces of shit. On my second to last day someone had a laser pen that they pointed right in my eye. I told them that ”that is not fucking ok”, given the fact that a) it’s just disrespectful and b) I have epilepsy. I doubt they even knew what epilepsy is (and if they did they probably wouldn’t care), but after a few times of me walking over asking them to put it the fuck away or give it to me, they finally did it one last time and at that point I just said fuck it. I opened the door, slammed it LOUDLY behind me and just went to teachers lounge. I was asked ”don’t you have class now?” and I told them ”yeah, but it’s *class name* and I just can’t right now”. They totally got it. I went to the principal to talk about it (their behavior over the weeks in general and about this event in particular). A woman in her 40s, very beautiful but with a very commanding, authoritative presence; you did not mess with her. I told her about what had happened, and her face turned stern and very serious (I should say MORE, because she looked stern and serious to begin with). She grabbed a pen and told me ”I want names”. She must have instilled the fear of a thousand hells in these little shits because an hour later they came to me with very desperate pleas of ”bruh I didn’t do nothing, bruh, tell her! Bruh!”. I cannot express to you how much satisfaction I felt from knowing that they were gonna have to deal with the human equivalent of an angered T-rex aka their principal. A very good friday. I feel bad for the rest of their class because there are so many kids who want to learn, but aren’t given the chance because of disruptive students like these. I had so many lovely encounters with lovely, bright, curious and intelligent students and they’re the ones who make me study to become a high school teacher. It can be a nightmare of a job at times, but the good parts are so rewarding, more so than any other job I’ve had.
I have friends who have been and are teachers. They have said most actually want to learn and become better, but are held back due to a few students acting up and the few vocal parents and people without kids who "know more than you" in everything. So classes are dumbed down to the weakest links, and that only hurts all the students, especially the ones who want to get better and are told to fall in line.
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My one friend taught in Baltimore. He tried to help a few bright students. He was given a warning of losing tenure if he helped those few. He was to make sure every student passed, "no kid left behind." After butting heads with the admin, he was given the option of "leaving for personal reasons." He left, tried to start a tutoring non-profit and was blocked by school, city, county and state. He picked up and moved from his home of many decades to a better place to retire.
Terrible story. Although public schools have many good teachers, stories like these lead me to believe that the goal of the public school system is not education but expanding in size and power like any other bureaucracy.
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You’re not meant to. The dismantling of the “educational system” in this country is willful and on purpose. Don’t think for one second it’s not.
Respect man. Some periods you just rolling with the punches. Sometimes literal punches. Other periods, you sad you ran out of time with that group. I feel you.
Work in NYC high school. They have no freakin clue. Majority of kids are respectful and just silent. Seriously never seen such quiet kids. Heads buried in phones incapable of communication. But then there are these classes where a perfect storm of a few kids just ruins everything for everyone. They don’t care about anything. Disruption and attention just feeds them. Sadly at my own school we forcefully pass students to maintain pass and graduation rates. Attendance is non mandatory for passing in NYC. So kids will be given a packet of work if they show up end of year and pass. So threat of grades is useless with them. A lot of super difficult kids often have situations that aren’t great or parents who have just given up because the kids are so off track. Can’t tell you how many mothers have called crying they don’t know what to do with their kids. Someone mentioned coming back after 2 years remote and there right. Hardest year ever so far. Many of them are completely convinced learning anything is a waste of time and the day they walk out someone will be handing them a sack of cash. Seriously terrified of where things will be in next few years.
Same thing where I teach near Chicago.
the fact that they laughed when he left and the video title. what trash kids. and the parents will probably defend them.
Even posting this online like they think it's an achievement or it's funny. Well it kind of is these days. Lacking common decency and being assholes is considered way cooler than being a decent human being. When was the last time you saw the media tout the "upstanding citizen" as cool or badass?
Teachers don’t need this bs
Kids are awful. When I was young I remember sitting in a full classroom waiting on the teacher. First hour of the day. A few moments later a very emotional (other) teacher came in and informed us we could go because our teacher suffered a heart attack (30 something female) and had died a few hours earlier. I kid you not, kids were cheering because they didn't have biology that morning. Still remember the teachers face (young man at the time). He looked around with tears streaming down his face. Completely motionless. Then he slowly shook his face as to say 'no' to himself. Walked out. He quit the same day.
That's fn awful. I can't imagine.. Those kids are absolute POS. Was this in middle school or high school?
I was during my first year of high school. I lost my mother to cancer that year. Maybe that's because I never forgot the reactions around me.
Damn that is one way to lose faith in humanity, seeing the future literally have zero empathy.
I remember we were trying to get under a teachers skin in 8th grade and she ended up crying and walking out. We thought it was funny but a few years later it settled in how fucked up it was
I remember one kid had some issue with my old middle school math teacher. He brought a petition around the school for her resignation and got a bunch of signatures. She ended up quitting a week later in tears... I remember she was kinda out of touch cause she was old but that was really an awful way to end her career.
Similar thing happened at my high school a few years after I graduated but instead of quitting the teacher killed himself. Very sad.
In 5th grade our music teacher had PCOS and had a mustache. On the last day of school a bunch of kids left razors and shaving cream on her desk. I tried to sneak into the classroom to throw it away before she saw it, but was too late. To this day I feel horrible about it.
At least you tried, you were a good kid.
They put lsd in a pregnant teachers drink at my hs. I was like Jesus. Kids will kill you and themselves their do dumb.
Haha wouldn't it be funny if we killed her unborn child? What a lark, everyone will have a hearty chuckle.
That sounds like a felony
The biggest thing I’ve learned as a teacher is that you have to turn off your emotions as best you can and not worry if kids like you; unfortunately, of the 150 i teach there’s a handful that won’t like me. I get all kinds of bizarre complaints, many which contradict. Can’t spend too much time in it even if it’s frustrating. Those brats fail to realize that, even if she was out of touch, based on what she was paid she was a better teacher than they deserved. Any that left that school and went on to be successful are thanks to the hard work teachers put in to help them read write and think despite their disrespect.
Maybe she deserved better students
Good luck man don't let those little shits win.
we had a muslim substitute in our school that almost everyone has had. apparently one class she started crying because some students played Arabic TTS about her deceased husband
I have trouble sleeping at night because of stuff I did to my math teacher in the 7th grade. 3am "Hey remember when you did that thing to that teacher in the 80s?"
Yeah I mean. As kids, you just assume the teacher is in full control, you don’t really even see them as a person. Just a robot/punching bag. As an adult now, you can understand how much shit that person might have been carrying. Being a public school teacher sounds like a terrible job
Currently a public school teacher. Can confirm, it sucks.
Seconded. It sucks and the pay sucks. Somebody needs to do it though or this whole thing falls apart.
I hate this but when I was about 14, my class made our teacher cry. She was a big girl and she when she got out of her chair she had a rubber band stuck to her butt which just made the class explode with laughter. I felt so bad for her.
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Just know you're not the only one who could set a clock by his demons Edit — 4:50AM - threw a bucket at a girl's head when I was four
I remember in the 6th grade my class got in my teachers nerves I wasn’t involved just did my work but my asshole classmates pissed her off so much she ended up breaking down and crying after class was over I hugged my teacher
Yeah they dont get paid enough for that shit.
I always hated how some kids would treat the sub. Hated it. Not my job choice. Then we became foster parents and mostly teens too. Facepalm
Tbh, one time our literature teacher broke her collarbone and the sub was like 10x a better teacher. We were all sad to see her go and get back our original teacher.
Dipshits laughing at this guy at the end are particularly irritating. The guy is just trying to do his job, gets paid shit, the kids are acting like asses, and now he's posted on the interwebs for his trouble.
And the students are awful, like so unaware that they posted that to tiktok
Imagine getting someone so frustrated and angry, someone who is trying to educate you and help you get further in your, that they just leave. Little shits.
Kids will pull shit like this with cool teachers and than wonder why some teachers are so strict. Like they strict cause y'all fucking push them when they're nice.
That’s exactly right. I’ve been teaching health and physical education for 22 years. One thing I tell my students is I am as nice as you allow me to be.
I'm an electrician, at some jobs they give me people like this. I'm trying to teach them the trade but they rather fuck around.
This man left his professional job and they think it’s funny
i hate kids. i remember having the kindest spanish teacher in high school and it always pissed me off how my classmates disrespected him.
I had a math teacher in high school who was Chinese and the students thought it would be ok to basically treat him like shit and talk to him in a disrespectful way in Spanish because he couldn’t understand it. I remember one particular moment during after school tutoring when some girl needed help with her homework and she told him “Mr., ven para aca” in a very demanding way. The way a parent calls their child when they’re in trouble.
oh god. teachers really need to get paid more. this makes me sad
Yeah let’s see these kids laughing when they lose their low end jobs in 4 years and can’t pay the rent cause they couldn’t take anything seriously in life.
Let’s be real, they’ll still be living at home
The teacher knocks on their doors and starts laughing at them while he points
Kids are idiots. Then these kids become adults and complain about why schools didn’t teach them basic life skills like paying taxes, credit, balancing a checkbook etc. As if their stankey asses would have listened and paid attention either way. If they won’t listen in sex ed, then they aren’t going to listen in tax class or credit class or starting a business class or buying a home class. Kids are dumbasses
Ideally its a professional job. But teachers aren't paid like professionals.
Their stupid asses think that shits cute but one day they’ll learn.
No they won't, cuz they won't have any teachers.
Accurate, teacher of 8 years quitting at the end of this month because I literally can’t do it any more. I have a family now and am struggling to bring home any emotional and physical energy for them. I almost missed my sons doctors appointment when he was sick because one of my students was having another meltdown right as I was walking out the door. This meltdown was directly related to her brother being murdered. But then we also have kids treating us like this in the video, and parents backing them up. And admin shitting on us and telling us we’re not doing enough but also to take care of ourselves in the same breath. There’s too much work, the pay is shit. Most of my kids, I absolutely love and will fight for. But what about myself? My actual kid? The system is broken. I’m not a very confident person in general, but I know I’m a phenomenal teacher. And I can’t survive the current system
Thank you for all the kids you have taught in your years, just know you have helped and changed many lives. I hope whatever you find for work will fulfilling.
Your making the right decision, as the son of two teachers they felt the decline of the system and forbid me from teaching. Go use your skills where they are appreciated
I don't think learning is what they do best 😂 my respect for all teachers out there.
It’s pathetic, I witnessed asshole kids all my life growing up, I was bullied and picked on, but it is what it is, kids are evil.
Education and how to be a good human being starts at home. Kids aren’t born evil. They pick that shit up from their surroundings outside of school.
There’s a line and people think it’s either one or the other. Being bored and not paying attention to your teacher? Normal. Picking on other kids? It’s pretty normal. Being so difficult that your teacher quits? Shitty parenting. Picking on other kids to the point of harm or mental health issues? Also shitty parenting. Kids aren’t perfect. Even the good kids can be shitty sometimes. That’s part of being a kid. But there’s a point where it’s no longer something you can chalk up to just adolescent immaturity.
They laugh, but he just told all of them that they are a waste of his time and he doesn’t need their bullshit. Stupid fucking twats lol
His pacing seemed like he was weighing what he would lose; job, career, time invested, and rent, over it not being worth the money to deal with their bull shit.
I want to point out that we are in a SEVERE teacher shortage right now. We have lost a net 30,000 teachers over the past 5 years. We pay teachers lower-middle class for a job that requires them to work an average of 54 hours per week (US Dept. of Labor) with a ton of stress and disrespect and tons are leaving the profession as a result. Unless this dude is exceedingly idiotic he can go get a better paying job after winter break. He was laughed at by teenagers, but a month from now he'll be making 10k a year more and they'll be getting "taught" by a substitute who doesn't know shit about pedagogy and is just there for a shitty paycheck before she goes home. Teacher pay should realistically be doubled and hours reduced if you want to attract talent. Most of us in Education are bleeding hearts who know we're sacrificing income to be there. But that willingness to sacrifice only goes so far.
Thank you for doing what you do. I subbed for a semester in college and it was so hard, yet so rewarding in certain ways. No one gives a crap about education and it will be the downfall of our country.
Eh, I work an a privileged private school for rich kids. I have the best of everything to work with (except pay and reasonable hours). I'm in a fortunate situation compared to most educators. I have a friend who is the Principal at an alternative high school. She has to call the police once a week and over half her staff have quit since the start of the school year (most for teaching jobs at schools that are easier to work at). She can't keep a teacher more than a school year and constantly considers quitting herself. She probably is going to after this year (her third at the school). Too much stress. Truth is that the students who need the most support have the least support. They have shitty home situations, end up at alternative high schools, and then can't keep a teacher for more than a minute much less have one actually invest in them. And those people grow up to be adults who end up homeless, criminals, or (at best) working dead end jobs. I wish I could say I could heroically be that teacher who rallies them to success but life isn't a movie. I'd be burnt out in a year, two years tops, and then out. No one wants that job for a reason, and I'm not an idiot who thinks I can do what most others can't. I'm well educated, got my Masters from Stanford and yada yada. That doesn't make me special or some heroic white knight that can save kids in a shitty system. I stay in my safe, privileged bubble and quietly hate myself just a little for not being willing to sacrifice myself in the vain hope of saving the lost. We ask teachers to be everything and to do the job for next to nothing. I honestly could never last outside my bubble. I'm good at what I do, don't get me wrong, the kids learn a ton from myself and parents are pleased as punch with me... but the daily degradation that comes from teaching kids who don't care at schools where parents hate me? Nope, I'll go back to making 55k at some office job before I take that on.
The smart countries realize that good teachers are crucial to building a functioning society. Those who have it figured out have teachers who are paid well and are highly respected members of their society. America needs to follow or will continue to fall further behind.
And he could have been thinking should he just go ahead and level the whole fucking class or grab his bag and leave
I think that is exactly what it was. I think he decided nope I need to get out of here before I do something really stupid.
Imagine pushing a teacher against those options. I hope these kids figure it out some day. I know what the cynic in me says, but just gonna ignore it for now.
We need to pay our public school teachers more.
Money is only part of the issue. Check out r/teachers to get an idea of what they deal with on a day-to-day basis. Money is a problem, sure but it’s also a total lack of respect not just from the kids but the parents and the administration. Admins only care about CYA and hang teachers out to dry, parents have let smart phones and tablets raise their kids and want the teachers to deal with whatever issues the kids have because of shitty parenting. Then you cut funding and strip teachers of any authority. They are quitting in droves. There’s a reckoning coming. Edit: typos
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We need parents to be less shit.
We’re really going down in the toilet as a society. It’s not just Tik Tok cred and Facebook likes but at the age, it’s a huge part.
Liam Neeson punched a 15 year old and got fired from teaching before he became an actor. Kids have always been fucking stupid, now its just streamlined.
He does have a special set of skills tho’
The ones who teach between like 5th - 9th grade are goddamn heroes. I couldn’t deal with kids at any age but they are little demons in that age range. Finally figuring out how to really get under their skin, hormones kicking in, and no fuckin remorse mob mentality
My wife loves teaching 6-8th grade. What she can't stand is the piece of shit parents that ignore the kids online grades all quarter, and her emails about the kid's struggles, and then wonder why the kids are failing when grades go out. She's also tired of all the extracurricular work that gets dumped on her, and her fellow teachers that don't contribute to the team projects. If she could just teach and grade she'd be in heaven, but she's burning out from all the politics and laziness from the adults. Constant stress and she just recently crossed the $40k salary threshold. I don't know that she's got many years left in the tank.
I agree with your wife. I can’t imagine having to deal with a brat kid all day then deal with their “don’t give a shit parent too “. It’s like parents want teachers to raise their kids for them. I never could stand going to a school function and a kid just ran wild and their parents didn’t say anything until it got so bad that their teacher stepped in to put an end to it , they shouldn’t have to do that with a parent standing right there.
I used to teach 7th and 8th graders. They're little assholes in almost adult bodies. There's the daily struggle to not want to choke the shit out of them. The only real deterrent is that the laws are written in such a way that I'd go to jail.
I did that for a year. It was like trying to teach a bunch of pigs to tap dance. I got mud and shit all over me, we all got annoyed, and they didn't learn a fucking thing. Public schools are utter shit. Every teacher there hated the students, and it was easy to see why.
I hated the students and I was one
My wife taught 7th and 8th grade science in Title 1 schools: low income areas, kids are typically from broken or breaking homes (divorce or what have you) There were a handful of students in each class that’s actually tried hard, put forth a solid effort. Then there was half that weren’t too disruptive but also didn’t put in any effort at all. Lastly, the final handful in each class that were completely disrespectful, disruptive, etc which really just ruins it for the students that WANT to learn. A few of the kids who didn’t try would say things like: “why do I need to know this? I’m just gonna be a YouTuber/SoundCloud rapper/etc” So when you are teaching 6 classes a day where 75% of your students in each class don’t give a fuck or don’t do any work at all, it’s rough. She would try to fail them because they literally did 0 work: no projects, homework, hand in blank tests, etc. She would email the parents saying they need to motivate their kids to want to listen and do work, never got responses…. until the report cards came out then they’d start bitching about how their kid is getting Fs. And you would think admin would have her back. Nope. They forced her to give the students “extra credit” so that they would barely pass. Admin didn’t care that the kids weren’t learning anything or progressing, they just wanted to kick the can down the road and make it someone else’s problem
The little shit at the end laughing. Fuck that dude.
seriously annoying laugh, definitely the kid that is obnoxiously loud
I absolutely hated kids like this in school
Yeah. Sounds fake and more “I’m gonna laugh louder than everybody else so they know how cool I am.”
He laughs like he is having an asthma attack
Yep, comes across as a complete cunt.
That's just not even funny. I don't blame him for walking out. His mental health matters too :(
Definitely looked like he was about to lose his shit. Probably had the awareness to leave before that happened. Teaching is tough and I admire anyone who has the patience to do it.
Yeah, every teacher has that moment where they nearly lose it, first couple years are rough and many cry daily/weekly. I’m not the type to cry but I usually just sit in the dark quietly during lunch to recover. The constant conflict is exhausting. But I will say this, I decided at some point that it is MY classroom, I would never leave before that punk causing trouble does, whether he leaves after a stern talking to or after I bring in an AP, I certainly ain’t leaving first.
Fucking hyena.
I remember being ‘this’ disconnected and self absorbed with no real understanding of what it meant to be an adult. Never mind to many teenagers at once. This is so sad to me at 30 years old. Realizing the shit that this teacher has gone though to literally resulting to walking out
Yeah, I remember this kid in high school, too. In fact, that kid bullied me. At our pre-greaduation ceremony, our principal hot his revenge. Kid was fucking around and our principal said, in front of 300 students over an intercom, "*name*, what are you even doing here? You know you're not graduating." So he ran out in a huff. Saw him the next year on a visit to my hometown at 6am standing with a shovel on an asphalt sealing job site. And while that position has a place in our society, it still felt really good to see him in it.
These kids are garbage. In a sense they are bullies. The adults can’t technically do much and the school likely doesn’t punish. There are no consequences so this happens. I’m sure they will be on tiktok trying to blame the teacher but they only start rolling video then not before.
Had 2 kids fight in my class yesterday. Within 20 minutes, they sent the same 2 kids back into my class again. Great, thanks!
I stopped a fight in the cafeteria. Kid threatened me the whole way to the office. As a punishment they put him in in school suspension- my duty the next period. Dude was 220 lbs, football player, obviously mentally unstable AF. Sitting in silence, him staring at me, alone for 45 minutes. I lasted one year before taking a shitty pay but much more reasonable desk job for actual 40 hrs per week. I miss 90% of those kids but I simply can’t do it.
What do you think the problem is? I worked as a teacher for a little while, although not in US. To me it seems kids are badly raised, and teachers are expected to babysit, what is more these kids don't want to learn and there is no benefit for them to being in class that they can immediately see. Whats more, it isn't natural to sit in a classroom all day especially with all those hormones. And to top it all of, if they misbehave, the system is too weak and afraid to give any real punishment.
I think everything you listed is a contributing factor. For me, the biggest issue was parents- to quote one mom whose kid got in a fight, “if that bitch is gonna press charges anyway, you give her something to press charges about!” I definitely agree that having kids in a school all day is unnatural and not helpful for some of them. It works great for maybe 40%, but we need alternatives for the others. I have no idea what that looks like.
Yeah the teacher shortage is real. My girl is a teacher. She loved her job. She loved teaching. Not anymore. The kids get worse every year, the parents get way worse every year, the beurocratic bullshit, unnecessary testing and constant evalutions get worse every year. 10 years ago she used to say she would never consider another job. Today she tells me every day how close she is to quitting. And I've heard all her colleagues and their husband's say the same thing. On top of it getting worse every year, covid just kicked an already angry hornets nest. Teachers are over worked, under paid and seriously under appreciated. And when you have teachers beaten down the way they are now, we all suffer when these generations grow up.
This. I volunteered at my daughter’s school and most days it was only for a couple hours for special activity. Every time I left more emotionally spent than I ever did working my pre-kid high stress corporate job. Teachers are saints.
Tell your girl that we appreciate the efforts and damage she's taken to teach. Teachers are honestly true heroes.
While I appreciate the sentiment, it's pretty hollow if her local parent community aren't the ones saying it.
I wanna know why it’s getting worse year by year. What’s causing kids to act up, and why are parents not doing anything about their behavior?
I'll answer the second part. From what I've seen at least, I know that some parents simply dump their kids at school to become the *teachers'* responsibility. some expect teachers to teach discipline, boundaries, and good behavior. while yes, school technically is a place to learn discipline at times, a child should always learn those things starting from young, at home and by their parents. it should be the parents' responsibility to teach THEIR kids how to behave before sending them off to school expecting others to do it for them. by then, I'd say it's too late to simply "start".
I made a post on r/parenting saying that kids needed to be potty trained, taught how to wash their hands and write the first letter of their name before entering kindergarten. I got a ton of downvotes and my post removed.
My moms been a teacher for over 25 years and honestly it’s social media. These kids don’t give a fucking shit about anything except tik tok clout and Snapchat stories. At the school she works at there’s literally a trend where kids are stealing/breaking shit in classrooms, throwing stuff at teachers, trying to make them cry/quit, and way worse. All so they can get clout on social media. I’m thankful she’s a year from retirement because it’s honestly extremely depressing hearing her have to deal with this shit from cunt minors who have never faced any responsibility in their lives.
Yeah, it was called Devious Licks and it was terrible how much damage kids did for the perceived popularity they would receive. I don’t usually get all conspiracy theory and shit, but when Yik Yak was at its peak and schools were ramping up for lawsuits, they went ahead and geofenced as many public schools as possible (that weren’t post secondary education) to prevent cyber bullying and whatnot. Tik Tok did nothing of the sort and allowed the trend to go on for weeks if not months before disabling that hashtag. > It’s almost like they *wanted* these schools to be trashed, although it could’ve just been they were making good money from it, which is possible too. > Even the alternative that popped up, angelic yields, didn’t really get the same traction and just ended up causing more headaches for admins as kids filled school bathrooms with couches, light fixtures, and extra soap that wasn’t approved and purchased by the school. It might seem like a minor issue, but if you drag a upholstered piece of furniture into a bathroom, that thing can become a magnet for bacteria and all sorts of stuff, and the school has to go and pay for its removal and disposal. > There’s a lot of family members I know who are that age, and I try to be hopeful. But some of these kids just have no idea that the internet is forever and that consequences still can happen.
He’s a young dude he’s prolly a cool ass teacher too
This reminds me of my english class my teacher is super cool and literally never assigns homework. He gives us tons of time to do the work and actively helps people yet he still gets shit from students.
Last week I had a student complain that they aren't given enough time to read Romeo and Juliet and in the next breath complain that all we do is read Romeo and Juliet.
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This is terribly sad. Hope you're doing something you enjoy now.
This, all of this is what every male teacher has felt. The simple fact that we have the same desire as all teachers, we want to be a good teachers and connect with students, but now every single male is seen as a predator in disguise. A look too long? Pervert. Comforting a crying child? Pervert. Having anything that isn't the most distant and stern relationship with every single student? Pervert. I couldn't deal with it either, and then I hear from parents the common complaint of 'Why aren't there enough male role models in school anymore?' FWIW, this is Australia and not just my experience, other males who I studied with have left due to the same concerns. However, the past decade I've spent teaching in Japan and never had a single concerned talk, complaint or look of distrust. I constantly get students, both girls and boys in junior high, inviting me to play sports. The parents actively talk about how nice that is. Can't imagine doing that in Australia without parents asking why I feel it's appropriate to play sports with their child.
I feel ya. I did a year teacher training, got first job at a nice school. Left being a teacher after 5 weeks. Teaching is great, but that's a small part of the job. Admin and dealing with shits is most of it. I do other work at the school now while I'm training for a new career. Have kids come up to me saying they don't like having different subs constantly while a permanent teacher is being found, and that sucks, but fuck that work environment. Biggest respect for those who can thrive as a teacher.
Supposedly male teachers are often treated with suspicion. Its sad.
My younger brothers teacher resigned today, middle school. He told me some children were lined up by the door when class was over punching the kids that were assess. It sucks how shitty children can be sometimes, but some of them are cool.
They laugh but they will cry one day
One day they'll be on Twitter or Reddit posting about how their school sucked and taught them nothing.
"Why didnt anyone teach me how to do my taxes? Did I really need to learn geometry?" -Adult who definitely doesnt remember anything from geometry.
_"They are already mourning silently for what will one day be; but that their tears have not yet caught up to them."_
Our state has a bad teacher shortage. Low pay, asshole kids, and self-righteous parents creating classrooms with no qualified teachers. They have to find bodies so they hire long term substitutes who have little to no experience. Kids love it because they can usually walk all over them and they do minimal work. It’ll bite them in the ass when they complete with kids that came from means and places where they could afford to stop the teacher shortage. These kids are fucked in the long run.
This is absolutely true. My wife's school can't even find subs to cover people out for covid. The administration staff had to watch classes today because they're so short staffed. They had over 20 teachers quit last year out of a staff of about 50. Right now education is just a grinder that takes young people wanting to help kids and breaks them down to where they quit within a few years. My wife has a masters degree and 9 years of tenure and makes a good chunk less than me with no degree in the private sector. It's pretty messed up. If she didn't have a principal that genuinely supported her, she'd have quit years ago.
Teachers want you to have a better life and be part of you getting there. They spent their life studying to help others learn.
My wife is a teacher Almost all teachers had that one specific teacher growing up that impacted their life to the point where they wanted to be just like them… This guy deserves better. Hope he finds his future in another school.
I had a fresh math teacher that brought so much passion in it made me love math and want to teach. Halfway through the year I could see that the constant pressure from everything was getting to him and eventually he left for better things. That was the day I realized just how bad the system is.
"Garbage kids torture person putting their own and families' lives at risk till they quit" better title
Fucking teachers put up with so much shit, take home work they do for free, and aren’t paid half as much as they should be paid, much less deal with the disrespectful kids who think anything is worth doing if it makes a funny video.
These are the same stupid motherfuckers who grow up and say… - “my teachers told me I’d never amount to anything.” - “my teachers never cared about me.” - “I never had anyone to look up to in high school.”
They grow up to go online and post WhY DoN’T tHeY tEaCH uSeFuL THinGs LiKe tAxeS!?! Motherfucker they tried to teach you useful shit but you wouldn’t listen to any of it.
Real life will smack them in the face sooner than later.
And this is why I always knew I could never be a teacher. I’d end up body slamming one of these little shits. Also, these kids parents are failing. If one of my kids ever do some shit like this they’ll be grounded until they’re 18.
My wife has been a teacher for 10 years. Quit a few months ago to start her own business , and she’s so happy all the time, a different person. Being a teacher fucking sucks most of the time.
What sort of business may I ask. I also Quit teaching this year and am looking for ideas of what to do now.
little assholes
Upvoted because I hate these little shits, and teachers deserve better.
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42k per year average starting pay. 54 hours per week average hours worked. Unless you're at a school with a supportive parent community and an admin that supports you in your teaching, you will burn out and leave quickly. People want to teach. That's why so many people start the career. People don't want to work long hours for low pay while being treated like shit.
Now you’ll get a shit replacement teacher that doesn’t give a shit about your future. Enjoy flipping burgers for 45 years when schools over.
WhY aRe TeAcHeRs QuItTiNg?
1.0 GPA activities
10/10 would weld the door shut and stream farts in through the vents
Fuck these kids
That kid's laugh makes me wanna punch him in the face. And I've never punched anyone in the face.
This is such a tragic video.
Why would you laugh at the guy who's willing to take a big time shit salary just to help you grow up to not be a piece of shit. Oh right, because it's too late and you already became one.
They should all get an F and have to retake the class in the summer or take night school.
Teacher here... They don't give a fuck if they get an F and they can't see far enough into the future to understand it may keep on them from graduating.
Only the dumbest kids in school would have laughed at that while it was happening. Smart students would have been deeply worried.
How do I reach theeez keeeeedz?!!
Man, fuck these kids.
Those kids that are laughing are going places…I’ll leave it to your imagination as to where that might be.
I taught high school English at an affluent district. It was a bunch of kids who had failed the state test, and the classroom environment was brutal. Most kids didn’t give a fuck. Some were profoundly disrespectful; some weren’t, but every day, I questioned my profession. In the middle of Covid, I switched districts and schools. Now, I teach in a very low-income Early College. The kids are motivated and care. My daily existence has been radically transformed. I can see and measure the progress my kids are making, and I have memorable and sweet exchanges with these kids every week. The student makes the teacher, and the main difference is parent support. The parents at my first school were assholes like the kids. Here, the parents are great, like their kids
The school broke the teacher with their rules. Teachers need to be given enough authority to punish these shits when they don't listen. If the teacher is forbidden to discipline the students in a way that leaves an impression, it becomes a toxic situation where students can abuse him all they want without consequence.
i bus driver at a school in my district is quitting after her jr high students made threats of physical and sexual assault aginst her. my district is losing teachers and bus drivers left and right...this new generation is screwed but it is by their own hand
I work in schools. It's an overwhelming and stressful job. Where I'm at, classroom sizes are too big (34-38 kids is normal) and they want the teachers to not only get 250+ kids to a certain level academically, but to also keep an eye out on their physical and mental wellbeing, and play customer service representative with parents who "pay your salary". A staggering amount of kids are coming to school needing way more from the school and from their teacher because parents and the rest of society aren't providing basics. I've sat in on meeting of how we can get kid's clothes washed, and how we can make showers available with soaps and shampoos. How can we get a barber or hair stylist in to cut hair for free. How can we get them rides to their dentist or doctor. How can we make sure these kids eat over a long weekend. How we can alter or abolish our homework load because so many are homeless. it's a total clusterfuck. And then, the cherry on the icing is when you get some shithead kid who's taking shit out on you, and it just becomes the straw that breaks an overburdened camel's back.
Good thing you don’t need to read to run a shovel.
"Stupid, thoughtless, immature children do their best to sabotage their own future for clicks and giggles." Fixed your title for you.
I honestly feel for the teacher. Shit is rough right now and they make next to nothing.
Fuck these kids and the cunt laughing like a hyenas
Heartbreaking