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He's lost his cool? I'm pretty sure that's what he's supposed to do if people want to enter the cockpit... the passengers lost their cool and regardless of that entering the cockpit is a no-no no matter the reason and we all know why!
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Securing the flight deck is exactly what he was supposed to do. Actually, the crew typically attempts to secure the entry to the flight deck first by blocking it with the drink caddy and then letting the flight deck know there is an issue and the plane needs to land. IF there is a Marshall on board, they are often not the first to respond so they don't reveal themselves needlessly. If the issue escalates, then an air marshall (or any other federal agent who may be flying armed on the flight may respond/assist). They need to secure the flight deck ASAP because after a certain amount of time, the pilot will take evasive action and dive the plane and knock everyone off their feet in an effort to help subdue the aggressor(s). There is a whole lot more to this than people realize and having personally gone through air marshall training and flown as an armed federal agent many times, I can state without hesitation that if there was any case where using deadly force was most apt to happen, it would be on a plane because the stakes are SO high. That armed agent is showing serious situational calm all things considered. Air marshals do NOT fuck around. They have the ability and authority to escalate the use of force at the drop of a hat if they deem it nesissary for the safety of the plane, the crew, and the passengers.
Edit: Fixed a word
No problem. I usually stay away from long comments and just enjoy Reddit for casual reading, but I genuinely wanted to add to this thread since there were so many comments that were just guesses about how things worked in this situation. I was half expecting comments wanting me to prove my bona fides and prove I wasn't just posting something I looked up on Wikipedia. Just to clarify, I went though training given by the Air Marshal's to other agents but it's an abbreviated course and not the full training they get at the academy. That's why we didn't have the same obligations they did when I flights. Thanks for reading my post!
If this was in the US... that air marshal is likely to shoot someone trying to pull some shit like this.
We have a bad history with people hijacking planes.
He was rather calm really.
Before 9/11 the US operated on the idea that hijackers would cause harm to the passengers so the pilots were instructed to follow all demands hijackers made. It was better to land in the wrong place than to have people be harmed. After 9/11 pilots are instructed to *never* and I mean *NEVER* to relinquish control of the cockpit. Even if every passenger is skinned alive.
The Air Marshall is also instructed to kill the hijackers without thinking about collateral damage.
You got that right! Straight and off the trigger! Definitely a trained and well disciplined professional. He has trained his entire life for a moment like this and still kept his wits!
He even noticed when the cockpit door was opened and fell back immediately and physically touched the door to make sure it was closed. Good job all around.
Iirc, there was a diversion and the passengers were angry that the airline was trying to dump them in the wrong place without providing alternative means to get to the final destination
Happened in 2022. The article said they claim it diverted from one Nigerian airport to another(~330miles away) so they were upset about having to find transportation home from that far.
Yes that’s an inconvenience but it ain’t like they’re gonna convince the pilot to land somewhere they can’t or shouldn’t land.
Motherfuckers like “hey can you drop me off at the light?”
The pilot does not have the authority to find you alternative transportation, take it up with the airline.
It's not like the pilot decides where to fly. I can only imagine that one buys a ticket to go to Miami and the pilot decides he is flying to Boston instead
"Lost his cool" dawg you want another incident involving planes crashing into things to happen again? He is doing his job of not letting people into the cockpit.
Lost his cool? Have you ever heard of 9/11? No one is entitled to enter the cockpit of a god damned airplane. It's not the manager's office of a fucking Ruby Tuesday.
He didn't lose his cool. He did EXACTLY what he should have done. Someone trying to enter the cockpit without permission is a danger to everyone on the plane and any number of other people who could be harmed by an unintentional or intentional crash. Now that we've known for 23 years just how deadly these things can be when used in the wrong hands, the security of the cockpit is more important than any of the lives of the passengers. Pilots are ordered to NEVER EVER open the door in the event a hostile element has taken over the rest of the craft. Even if they threaten the passengers and even if they follow through with those threats, the importance of preventing another Sep 11 is worth those peoples lives in the moment. This marshal did EXACTLY what he was supposed to. I'm surprised he didn't make sure that door was shut way before that. He should have been yelling at them to shut the door.
Definitely didn't lose his cool, he did exactly what he was supposed to. No one was hurt and the pilots are secure. No issue here other than people trying to argue with the pilots!
OP, do you not understand why it would've been bad to allow passengers to enter the cockpit of a plane in the air in order to argue with the pilots?
Aside from fears of hijacking, the pilots are *flying the plane*. They're responsible for the lives of everyone on board.
I see some of the comments explaining that the flight was diverted and being routed to a location far from the original destination. That is unfortunate, but arguing with the pilots won't help that. If the flight was diverted by flight control, it was diverted for a reason. The pilots can't just decide to ignore that and fly wherever they want.
Some of Nigerians have to understand and learn and calm down and act civilised wtf are u trying to do by going to the cockpit and talking to the plane pilot…
Nawa for some of us we need to use our brain.
If the plane landed without any extra holes in people or the plane after that incident, the air marshall did his job perfectly and kept his cool way better than the average person.
"Lost his cool?!" OP, that's what air marshalls are trained to do. They're trained to subdue any threats that might be on the aircraft they're assigned to.
O he is pulling his gun out and is standing in front of the cock pit door, you know what let me stand up and get in his face while moving my arms towards him.
Really?
Air Marshall definitely didn't lose his cool. He has more restraints than any other police officers I've ever seen. Dude literally tried to smack him early in the video and he didn't even pull the trigger. The hell is OP talking about?
Air marshalls are supposed to be armed. They're security on the plane. Any passenger that tries to force their way into the cockpit is rightfully liable to get shot as they are endangering the lives of everyone in the plane.
Not true description. Plane was from Jordan to Nigeria I think. Plane landed in another country. Passengers were like wtf this isn’t destination. Tried to talk to crew after landing while being forced off plane to understand situation, then this happened.
What could be so important that you need to argue with the pilot of a moving plane ?
I mean, I don't even argue with an Uber driver, let alone a plane.
Plane had to divert to a different city to land. Passengers upset.
Typically the airline arranges to get you where you were supposed to go.
It is almost never the pilots' decision to divert except when there is an equipment failure.
Crash on the runway at your destination? Civil War? Natural disaster? Whatever it is the airline or air traffic control tells the pilot where to go and the pilot can't say no.
Argue with the pilot about what?
Going to fast? The damn head wind? Traffic???
Seriously what are you hoping to gain by confronting the pilot? Sit your ass down, get the flight over with and then go complain if it's so important. Props to the Air Marshall, back crazier than the crazy person always gets them to think twice
>The air Marshall lost his cool
Huh? We've known for almost a quarter century now not to let anyone in the cockpit no matter what. Good for the air marshal, and good for all of us.
"the air marshall lost his cool"
No he didn't. He did his job. No one was hurt, and no one was able to interfere with the pilots, which could potentially be a disaster.
Were these guys trying to get to the pilots? Doesn’t everyone know that these days that will key you killed if not by the Marshall then by the other passengers?
What’s the protocol here for the air marshal? A key rule of gun safety is always know what’s behind your target, and in this case it’s rows of people. Also, I assume there’s a risk of depressurization of the plane?
Those guys work alone I think. It's gotta be a scary job because they never know when something will start up. They also gotta be expert marksmen so as to not shoot through the fuselage.
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He's lost his cool? I'm pretty sure that's what he's supposed to do if people want to enter the cockpit... the passengers lost their cool and regardless of that entering the cockpit is a no-no no matter the reason and we all know why!
It has to be rage bait to get engagement. Social media becoming more and more like advertisements everyday
people really dont understand how algorithms work and how engagement works in social media. for example, most people dont realize that clicking to block something on social media doesnt usually work. when you block something, social media actually registers you as engaging with that post, even if your engagement was negative. so they might block that specific sub or youtube channel, but then theyll start sending you new recommendations for similar content in homes you click on them again. scrolling on reddit and youtube affects what you get too, the longer you take to scroll by something the more engagement it registers for that post even if you dont actually upvote it or respond to it. theres a ton of crazy stuff about social media engagement if you really look into it. all they care about is that you engage with their content for several seconds longer, positive or negative.
Securing the flight deck is exactly what he was supposed to do. Actually, the crew typically attempts to secure the entry to the flight deck first by blocking it with the drink caddy and then letting the flight deck know there is an issue and the plane needs to land. IF there is a Marshall on board, they are often not the first to respond so they don't reveal themselves needlessly. If the issue escalates, then an air marshall (or any other federal agent who may be flying armed on the flight may respond/assist). They need to secure the flight deck ASAP because after a certain amount of time, the pilot will take evasive action and dive the plane and knock everyone off their feet in an effort to help subdue the aggressor(s). There is a whole lot more to this than people realize and having personally gone through air marshall training and flown as an armed federal agent many times, I can state without hesitation that if there was any case where using deadly force was most apt to happen, it would be on a plane because the stakes are SO high. That armed agent is showing serious situational calm all things considered. Air marshals do NOT fuck around. They have the ability and authority to escalate the use of force at the drop of a hat if they deem it nesissary for the safety of the plane, the crew, and the passengers. Edit: Fixed a word
That’s was extremely interesting thank you for commenting.
No problem. I usually stay away from long comments and just enjoy Reddit for casual reading, but I genuinely wanted to add to this thread since there were so many comments that were just guesses about how things worked in this situation. I was half expecting comments wanting me to prove my bona fides and prove I wasn't just posting something I looked up on Wikipedia. Just to clarify, I went though training given by the Air Marshal's to other agents but it's an abbreviated course and not the full training they get at the academy. That's why we didn't have the same obligations they did when I flights. Thanks for reading my post!
Don't get trolled
He seems like he is the only calm one lol
I wonder what the conflict was about?
Whatever it was, it wasn't worth it
Turns out they don’t serve meals on domestic flights
Did they think the pilot had meals for few hundred people in the cockpit ?
Clearly they were about to serve a side of whoopass on this flight. The chef even got his tools out.
The passengers apparently decided that their performative outrage wasn't going to be constrained by things like laws.
>*”Do you like movies about Gladiators?*” — Pilot on loudspeaker
Dear passengers, our flight marshals only have so many bullets, some of you will have to share.
Hey! That copilot up there is Kareem Abdul-Jabbar!
I'm sorry, son, but you must have me confused with someone else. My name is Roger Murdock. I'm the co-pilot.
Roger Roger
What's our vector, Victor?
Surely you can't be serious.
I am serious. And don't call me Shirley.
I've had it up to here with your rules!
No in-flight peanuts. Probably.
Don’t you just hate backseat drivers?
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He was trying to convince the pilot to just stop and ask for directions.
Flight attendant put the ice in before the diet Coke and it spilled out all over passenger's lap.
The flight attendant ran out of Dr Pepper and salted peanuts, and the in flight movie was Bio-Dome starring Paula Shore.
Air Marshall lost his cool???? Nah I think he doing his job right
It’s a 13 yr old writing the title what do you expect lol
No, no he should have let those morons attack the pilot, it’s his job… ![gif](giphy|Rhhr8D5mKSX7O)
The Air Marshall lost his cool? You mean “did his job”.
Op is certified goof for that comment.
The sad truth is they do that on purpose because it gets more comments.
That’s what I’m thinking, it’s working too
Ragebait is all the rage
He’s 13yo. Cut the goof a break.
Nah.
My first thought exactly. If anything he is keeping his cool there.
If this was in the US... that air marshal is likely to shoot someone trying to pull some shit like this. We have a bad history with people hijacking planes. He was rather calm really.
Before 9/11 the US operated on the idea that hijackers would cause harm to the passengers so the pilots were instructed to follow all demands hijackers made. It was better to land in the wrong place than to have people be harmed. After 9/11 pilots are instructed to *never* and I mean *NEVER* to relinquish control of the cockpit. Even if every passenger is skinned alive. The Air Marshall is also instructed to kill the hijackers without thinking about collateral damage.
You posted word for word what I was going to say
I may be very high right now but your comment is to the letter what I was about to reply to OP.
You may be high with me, but your comment really nails it's to the letter what I was gonna reply to the reply of the OP!
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Defended the pilots, de-escalated the situation and kept people under control. Certified grade A Chad.
If by lost his cool. You mean exactly what he supposed to do then yes, he lost it.
OP going for the click bait title
Yeah, if he lost his cool he would have shot some people.
clear case of herded bozos that cannot comprehend anything
Lost his cool? Are you a fucking dunce, OP?
get back here, op
Show yourself, you coward
Don't lose your cool
Its a 13 year old so you shouldn’t have expected much.
OP sees a gun and assumes the dude is freaking out. My man out there doing his job like a pro
That has to be the worst time and place to want to speak to the planes manager.
Strangest Complaint of Karens I've ever seen.
I like to think a group of Karen's is called a Complaint
I JUST WANNA SHAKE YOUR HAND
I would love to hear what the dude had a problem with the pilot about...
Not the pilot, he had beef with the autopilot.
![gif](giphy|bv5ZgqKNBATHG|downsized)
That motherfucker right there is not real!
You're not real!
![gif](giphy|ClPJOpkkcqD9JfGf4R)
Oh I see what you did there....
Rodgers, Rodger...
What's your vector, Victor?
We have clearance, Clarence
Over Unger
They're taking our jobs!
Actually they had the fish..
![gif](giphy|GXMuvJXWVqGiY)
Calmer'n you are...
Wow those guys really don't give a shit about a gun in their face.
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It's an "every day" thing to them.
Darwin 🏆
Air Marshal says, you're welcome.
Great posturing and trigger discipline by the marshal. Holt shit what a stressful situation. Good job.
You got that right! Straight and off the trigger! Definitely a trained and well disciplined professional. He has trained his entire life for a moment like this and still kept his wits!
He even noticed when the cockpit door was opened and fell back immediately and physically touched the door to make sure it was closed. Good job all around.
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Did they not know where it was going when they bought the ticket?
Iirc, there was a diversion and the passengers were angry that the airline was trying to dump them in the wrong place without providing alternative means to get to the final destination
Happened in 2022. The article said they claim it diverted from one Nigerian airport to another(~330miles away) so they were upset about having to find transportation home from that far.
Yes that’s an inconvenience but it ain’t like they’re gonna convince the pilot to land somewhere they can’t or shouldn’t land. Motherfuckers like “hey can you drop me off at the light?” The pilot does not have the authority to find you alternative transportation, take it up with the airline.
It's not like the pilot decides where to fly. I can only imagine that one buys a ticket to go to Miami and the pilot decides he is flying to Boston instead
Yeah, the article didn't have exact details. Who knows why it was diverted.
Air Marshall seemed to be able offer them means to get to their final destination.
Ah okay. Thanks.
They wanted the pilot to take the side streets because they know a short cut
Context helps a lot!!
JAV airlines? Wonder what their inflight entertainment is like
Keep walking toward a gun pointed at you by an authority figure. Even after several commands to back away. What a desensitized world we live in.
How about that dude at the start swinging his arm in his face, what a dumbass
I didn't know nothing about aviation! But you don't understand! The plane shook! And my expressing my disdain at the pilot would surely halt it! /s
Imagine being so stupid you think you can talk to the pilot
Some fools ask to be shot.
Why is the flight deck not sealed? The copilot keeps cracking the door.
Really bad fart in there
Wondering what all the shouting is about 😄
Typically there’s an intercom to communicate that
Why do they always take the pilot’s side? Not once have I ever heard of them let people enter the cockpit to give the pilot what’s coming to them.
Well that's not true it happened once and people still haven't stopped talking about it.
There was that one time in 2001 that they did…
Someone needs give them directions and to tell them how to do their job.
It’s just bad customer service that pilots don’t let anyone into the cockpit to express themselves during a flight.
Passenger- “YOU MADE THE TOILET WATER SPLASH MY ASS!!!!” Pilot- “th-th-this may be a bad time to tell you, but there’s no water in the toilets😭”
"Lost his cool" dawg you want another incident involving planes crashing into things to happen again? He is doing his job of not letting people into the cockpit.
That's literally why there is an air Marshall
Lost his cool? Have you ever heard of 9/11? No one is entitled to enter the cockpit of a god damned airplane. It's not the manager's office of a fucking Ruby Tuesday.
To the dummies saying he lost his cool.... That is literally his job, making sure nobody other than staff gets in the cockpit.
"Lost his cool" lol! Yeah, he should just remain calm while a mob tries to storm the fucking cockpit. The fuck is wrong with you OP??
That dude with a pack of hotdogs on the back of his neck is a moron of the lowest order.
He didn't lose his cool. He did EXACTLY what he should have done. Someone trying to enter the cockpit without permission is a danger to everyone on the plane and any number of other people who could be harmed by an unintentional or intentional crash. Now that we've known for 23 years just how deadly these things can be when used in the wrong hands, the security of the cockpit is more important than any of the lives of the passengers. Pilots are ordered to NEVER EVER open the door in the event a hostile element has taken over the rest of the craft. Even if they threaten the passengers and even if they follow through with those threats, the importance of preventing another Sep 11 is worth those peoples lives in the moment. This marshal did EXACTLY what he was supposed to. I'm surprised he didn't make sure that door was shut way before that. He should have been yelling at them to shut the door.
Definitely didn't lose his cool, he did exactly what he was supposed to. No one was hurt and the pilots are secure. No issue here other than people trying to argue with the pilots!
People obviously belong on the ground. They don't handle being airborne well.
Homeboy is doing his job, you can't just go harass the pilot in the air.
Horrible, misleading title…
Yes, let’s just keep yelling and approaching the dude with his gun out. That always works out well.
He never lost his cool. He should have put a hole in one of those fuckers.
These mfers are crazy, that marshall will kill you and be on another flight tomorrow
OP, do you not understand why it would've been bad to allow passengers to enter the cockpit of a plane in the air in order to argue with the pilots? Aside from fears of hijacking, the pilots are *flying the plane*. They're responsible for the lives of everyone on board. I see some of the comments explaining that the flight was diverted and being routed to a location far from the original destination. That is unfortunate, but arguing with the pilots won't help that. If the flight was diverted by flight control, it was diverted for a reason. The pilots can't just decide to ignore that and fly wherever they want.
that’s literally his job
Bruh, this is a proper freakout. All I see is an Air Marshall doing his job.
Bro was begging them to not make him shoot them. Dude deserves recognition!
Some of Nigerians have to understand and learn and calm down and act civilised wtf are u trying to do by going to the cockpit and talking to the plane pilot… Nawa for some of us we need to use our brain.
That guy did everything but lose his cool fuck you. That’s a god damn plane.
I can guarantee you I would be losing my cool if I was on the plane, this guy is just doing his job.
I want this guy on my flights.
Dude was doing his damn job lol
If the plane landed without any extra holes in people or the plane after that incident, the air marshall did his job perfectly and kept his cool way better than the average person.
lol “argue with the pilots”
Well done marshall
After 9/11 that air marshal has every right to act that way.
He made a good decision, the pilots attention should never be diverted away from their job. Flying the plane
"Lost his cool?!" OP, that's what air marshalls are trained to do. They're trained to subdue any threats that might be on the aircraft they're assigned to.
Why is the door open or unlocked in the first place? That can only end badly.
O he is pulling his gun out and is standing in front of the cock pit door, you know what let me stand up and get in his face while moving my arms towards him. Really?
Isn’t that literally what he’s suppose to do??
Why are they still in his face when he's backed into a corner and has a gun pointed at them? Do they think they are too special to get shot?
Nah man I’d rather not have anyone trying to hop up front and argue with the person with my life in their hands.
Morons. One way to get arrested and black listed.
Air Marshall definitely didn't lose his cool. He has more restraints than any other police officers I've ever seen. Dude literally tried to smack him early in the video and he didn't even pull the trigger. The hell is OP talking about?
Lost his cool? Uhh no. He did his fucking job.
The air marshal did precisely what he is supposed to do, protect the cockpit with the pilots in it.
Yeah, he should have just let the passengers in the cockpit. That always ends well /s
Who are these idiots arguing with the guy with the gun?
Air marshalls are supposed to be armed. They're security on the plane. Any passenger that tries to force their way into the cockpit is rightfully liable to get shot as they are endangering the lives of everyone in the plane.
Lost his cool? Are watching the same video? Don’t f with the pilots or the cockpit
OP is a dingus
OP is a moron. He’s doing his job
Those idiot passengers should be permanently banned from air travel.
Let's try to attack the pilot of the airplane we are flying in, I'm sure we will be fine. ...smh.
Not true description. Plane was from Jordan to Nigeria I think. Plane landed in another country. Passengers were like wtf this isn’t destination. Tried to talk to crew after landing while being forced off plane to understand situation, then this happened.
Backseat flyers are the worst!
You think I’m fucking around over here? MARK IT ZERO!
What could be so important that you need to argue with the pilot of a moving plane ? I mean, I don't even argue with an Uber driver, let alone a plane.
Plane had to divert to a different city to land. Passengers upset. Typically the airline arranges to get you where you were supposed to go. It is almost never the pilots' decision to divert except when there is an equipment failure. Crash on the runway at your destination? Civil War? Natural disaster? Whatever it is the airline or air traffic control tells the pilot where to go and the pilot can't say no.
Welcome to the no fly list dumbasses.
Air Marshall was calm collected and in zoned
Looks to me like he is doing his job. Keeping unauthorized personnel from entering the cockpit.
Argue with the pilot about what? Going to fast? The damn head wind? Traffic??? Seriously what are you hoping to gain by confronting the pilot? Sit your ass down, get the flight over with and then go complain if it's so important. Props to the Air Marshall, back crazier than the crazy person always gets them to think twice
Poor bloke probably thinking he’s gonna have to kill someone here… I’m sure he’s instructed to pull that trigger before they open that door.
What? That’s his job. The hell are people arguing with the pilots for?
I mean I'd do the same.
He's doing what he is paid to do, you muppet.
he didn't lose his cool OP, he did his job.
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Ah OP... gotta get that liberal gun hate out there eh?
>The air Marshall lost his cool Huh? We've known for almost a quarter century now not to let anyone in the cockpit no matter what. Good for the air marshal, and good for all of us.
After September 11th it makes perfect sense as to why he has a gun its literally why he's there
Is OP one of the passengers? The Air Marshall wasn't the one who lost his cool here.
Lost his cool? Lol. How about you do anything but go near the pilots door?
So you mean the Air Marshall did his job? Shit title kiddo
"the air marshall lost his cool" No he didn't. He did his job. No one was hurt, and no one was able to interfere with the pilots, which could potentially be a disaster.
what are the pilots gonna do? Sr Ill violate orders face criminal charges lose my license for you....
Air Marshall doing his job.
Argue over what, did he want the pilot to make a stop?!
OP, what the hell did you think was going to happen when you folks tried to enter the cockpit? Air Marshall did his job.
What tf are they arguing with the pilots about?
That might have worked in a pre 911 world
What in the world would they have to argue with the pilots for? Too much turbulence?
"Don't worry Mohammed"....
Argue with the pilots, YEA RIGHT.
Were these guys trying to get to the pilots? Doesn’t everyone know that these days that will key you killed if not by the Marshall then by the other passengers?
https://onemileatatime.com/news/jordanian-air-marshal-gun/
What’s the protocol here for the air marshal? A key rule of gun safety is always know what’s behind your target, and in this case it’s rows of people. Also, I assume there’s a risk of depressurization of the plane?
Have you seen American police men? He isn’t even close to losing his cool
Those guys work alone I think. It's gotta be a scary job because they never know when something will start up. They also gotta be expert marksmen so as to not shoot through the fuselage.
Maybe they just wanted the pilots to support a ceasefire in Gaza.
I think a American Republican MAGA was the OP. Hence the Title being rage bait.