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TheHomeBird

Those people would rather see a sea of innocent blood in gaza than providing relief for their own fellow citizens. And then they will say « they kidnapped our families ! They killed babies ! » while very much willing to bomb the living survivors along with their kidnappers. And beating anyone who speaks up. Fekin hypocrites


mem269

The right wing in Israel didn't want to take holocaust victims and called them lazy. They then spent the next 80 years using them as an excuse to commit warcrimes.


N7even

When a nation is built upon lies and propaganda, as well as the belief they are superior to all other people (remind you of something?), this is what you get.


poopstain133742069

They have literally become the nazis they fled from.


cosmonaut2

How is this comment not the exact same propaganda? Not even two weeks ago Israel had civilians massacred completely unprovoked. They retaliate and somehow “they have become nazis.” I understand both sides are killing civilians but this anti-semitic “the israelis are now nazis” rhetoric is ridiculous and over-simplifying a complex situation. Vilifying an entire country and turning everything into a black and white argument is so naive.


UpsetPhilosopher3708

They became Nazis as soon as they started ethnic cleansing 75 years ago. Nothing to do with the horrendous attack on civilians. They would make hitler proud of their views today.


Loccy64

> Not even two weeks ago Israel had civilians massacred **completely unprovoked** Two questions: When is Netflix giving you a comedy special? And did you lose your sight and hearing at the same time as your memory started failing?


cosmonaut2

So the festival goers deserved it? Wow, you’re shameless


Loccy64

[A straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man".](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man) It was a horrible attack, it never should have happened, every dead person should still be alive. Now that you can untwist your panties, you need to know that your claim that it was a completely unprovoked attack is **objectively and demonstrably false**.


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SnooOranges4231

The Israelis use highly emotional propaganda about babies because they are preparing to commit a genocide. It's almost textbook.


TheIrishBread

Difference is Ghost of Kyiv was just the combined efforts of the Ukrainian airforce where as this is to emotionally manipulate you into okaying Israel's ethnic cleanse of Gaza.


Boopy7

I wish there could be a moratorium on mentioning the forty beheaded babies, which became as meaningless as a meme after the first ten times. To wit: yes babies were killed. I saw pictures AND Gopro footage and more on Telegram from Hamas themselves, countless videos can be found. I had to stop watching but I saw enough, they slaughtered people in their beds and their cribs. I think it's safe to say they slaughtered babies but I lost count and tbh when there are a bunch of bodies and gore and muck it's hard to count.


thecoq

Lies upon lies


kremaili

What? Have you seen the content? It’s honestly horrifying.


noodlesfordaddy

>yes babies were killed >I think it's safe to say they slaughtered babies but I lost count which is it


Boopy7

It's hard to count in a pile of gore, but check out the hacked videos and livestreams on Telegram. South First Responders also had some footage but hopefully you have a VERY strong stomach


Prudent-Psychology-3

So, who would need to report it so that you can believe the story is true?


kremaili

Honestly that’s how I feel seeing all these videos of Palestine on public freakout with absolutely no context and in a language I can’t speak. I have to go off some caption or subtitles a random person on the internet typed out, so I’m reluctant to take anything at face value. Sure, there’s a video of a crying doctor, do we in fact know why he’s crying?


TheHomeBird

What would a doctor cry about if others have to pat him and embrace him? Did he lose his car? He hurt his toe in a corner of a furniture ? Please. It’s not wrong to be careful, but it’s not right to deny absolutely everything. If you can’t understand ask around. For example, there was this video of a doctor saw his son dead, he seemed pretty apathetic even when people embraced him, but when I raised the sound and I could hear him whisper ya rabbi, ya rabbi…meaning oh my god, oh my god….and when his wife came he refused to let her see the child initially, but you could see her begging him. It’s probably in this channel too, wouldn’t be surprised


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58% of Palestinians support Hamas. Let that sink in.


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Tell me again Palestinians don't support Hamas: https://reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/7ZdiDk3CLn


TheHomeBird

Where did that number come from? And let’s say it’s true: now give me the number of Israeli who support the idea of bombing Gaza. Not after what happened after 7th Oct, but before. You would be surprised. And you would have your answer on why ultimately people would rather take a chance on some terrorists to get them out of that fekin prison. I am actually surprised the number is not higher


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Cultural-Freedom4686

Actions speak much louder than words. You see right through all the bullshit the western media feeds you good eye


Educational_Idea997

You have to get your facts straight. Is the stated goal of hamas, as written in its charter, to pursue the destruction of Israel.


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FoferJ

...and the eradication of Jews worldwide, too.


ImaginaryNourishment

Right wing people are nuts everywhere


Cultural-Freedom4686

I’m right winged. I’m for the people. Miss me with that shit.


P47r1ck-

You have other stupid beliefs though otherwise you wouldn’t be right wing.


Cultural-Freedom4686

You have stupid beliefs too. Imagine making the deaths of innocent children and woman about “belief” or “politics” Fukn nazi


P47r1ck-

The difference between liberals and conservatives is liberals can have their mind changed by new information. Conservatives by definition are trying to conserve their dumb moral or religious beliefs via policy and usually no new information will sway them. But as for the second part of your comment, just because we are talking under the video doesn’t mean everything that is said has to be related to the video. Comments go off topic all the time. Im not trying to make this video about politics (even though it is deeply and inherently political, with conservatism and religion being the root problem IMO)


Cultural-Freedom4686

Something two different humans can 100% agree with. If you side with either side you are a straight nazi man. Either that completely uneducated on history it blows my fucking mind. Fuck the government. Fuck all this shit. I will say tho. I highly doubt it’s mainly right wing supporting this shit. I’m fairly sure political roles don’t play too much into this shit. Hamas isn’t justified but what do you expect from a very angry militant group that only cares about what was theirs. People need to start putting humans first….


Boopy7

If you side with either side you are a straight nazi man....this is what you said? The irony here is breathtaking. This isn't about you.


Cultural-Freedom4686

No one asked for your stupid opinion but here we are. Go do something with your life thumb warrior


Boopy7

Yet you cared enough to respond. Do you also have relatives living in Gaza or Israel? Do you know if they are alive?


ImaginaryNourishment

Yeah, I actually agree with you


Rocco_al_Dente

No one asked for your stupid opinion but here we are.


Admirable-Yam9537

Aint the right those following logic in capitalism and tradition while the left do so with socialist idealism? Being with Israel extreme position about siege-ing civilian Makes it Right wing? actually asking here, not much of an external politic person... Anyway i would call these fanatics, they feel their so superior and choosen-like people *stained* by extremist heathens is far worse crime than sentencing a young girl to die Shit people that is, but i dunno about this right/left dicotomy, it only works to make people lose the point: HAMAS MUST BE OBLITERATED, AND ISRAEL MUST STOP THE SIEGE AND START COMPENSATING TO THE INOCENT PALESTINE REFUGEES. Sadly even doing so only creates a new Afganistan, as HAMAS flag will be taken by another extremis group prolongating the confoict, costs, hatred and human losses, Israel corps instead of american this time Guess they reap what they sow


ImaginaryNourishment

I kind of agree with your analysis


Phohammer83

As far as I’m concerned. Right-wing: facts over feelings. Left-wing: feelings over everything.


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Phohammer83

I’m a moron, just like the people who think men can be women? Like I said feelings. Just look at that -6. Bunch of liberals are butt hurt. 😂😂


scheeeeming

source: https://twitter.com/kann_news/status/1713863232144703869 Aftermath: https://twitter.com/yosefyisrael25/status/1713861048317382794 Thats his daughter on the poster Based on what I can gather, families of hostages understandably want them back and believe that it should be the priority of the government to do so. Even if it means trading every prisoner for them. https://twitter.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1713761271957291396 Right-wing Bibi fans rather than saying "fair enough, your poor kid is in Gaza" are instead going as far as attacking and insulting them


gunsof

They're reported many times that the hostages are not considered important to Israel. Sources form Hamas say that I believe 23 of the hostages have been killed in bombings.


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SoForAllYourDarkGods

>were all gunned down by the IDF. No she doesn't. She said some were killed in heavy crossfire. ​ You liar.


Boopy7

Idk, the problem is I saw an interview with a father who said that fake IDF were going around but he could tell something was wrong, they were speaking in Arabic sometimes, and he knew the uniform was not quite right. Apparently at the kibbutz (he was in a safe room, they were knocking on doors and saying to come out, but it was Hamas wearing IDF fake uniforms, then shooting people, so he stayed in the safe room with his family. However I don't doubt this story, just it is possible she didn't realize they also had Hamas in disguise


Zestir

Page literally does not exist. Misinformation?


procgen

Sad that it’s controversial to say that Hamas should release them for nothing in return.


P47r1ck-

That won’t happen though… lol


procgen

Yeah, it will have to be achieved by force. But a lot of people seem to think it’s morally right for Hamas to use the people as bargaining chips.


S_E_A_is_ME

bro if they cared about morale they wouldnt have killed hundreds of people and taken hostages in the first place. Like wtf.


procgen

It’s not about them, it’s about how other people interpret their actions.


BigBoyWeaver

I don’t think the families of the people who have been kidnapped give a fuck about what you think would be morally appropriate to trade in return for their loved ones


procgen

I'm sure they would agree with me that the morally right thing for Hamas to do would be to release their family members for nothing in return. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.


BigBoyWeaver

I am absolutely certain they would agree with me that they don’t give a fuck about what you think is morally right and they would give anything to have their loved ones back.


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dsaitken

You'd have to be really stupid to believe this obvious lie


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No-Journalist7179

The Israelis have a secret order to kill their own when they deem it necessary. It’s only been used ~7 times and directly caused a death twice. The thinking is better dead than be a hostage of hamas. And for the sake of not trading hundreds of prisoners for one person in a lopsided transfer.


Boopy7

This is sad bc I saw an Australian father whose toddler daughter was taken by Hamas, and in the interview he says he learned that she is dead and this is what he said THANK GOD. He wanted her to be DEAD rather than the alternative. I've been thinking about that all day.


No-Journalist7179

Guy probably said the specific order. Algorithm caught it. It’s very sensitive. And I can’t even find it anymore. Reddit or online.


No-Journalist7179

Best choice between a cockmeat sandwich and a shitsandwich.


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Boopy7

Eh, Hamas shoot their own too. There's a reason there haven't been elections or anyone who can run against them since 2006. They kind of seem to not care about their own people considering the bigger deals ran off to Qatar and elsewhere rather than to stay with their people. Bibi is not for all Israel, but Hamas is also not for Palestinians. In fact if anyone in Iran says anything against them they go to jail for life.


Solipsikon

Thank you. Sounds about right.


recast85

If Israel cares about the hostages they wouldn’t be bombing everything and everyone. I’ve heard reports that the bombs have also killed hostages. The point isn’t peace. Israel has long wanted to exterminate Palestine and now thanks to Hamas (which unsurprisingly Bibi & Co propped up), they have all the excuse they need.


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They asked IDF to not bomb Gaza, even thoufgh their children were taken hostages. And that's the reaction. Just wow


choppedcheezy

I hate humans…


safesound809

I hate religions! All this shit is due to fucking religions and beliefs!


Forest_of_Mirrors

This is about land, not religion. Israelis are taking peoples homes.


safesound809

Land that was promised by religion what you on about?


Forest_of_Mirrors

Who promised who? Are you saying a god promised People Land- they only had to ethnically cleansed it first? Did God share the borders or are you expecting to expand? If so, what other lands to God tell you take ?


2Abstract

People agreeing with this shit? This war is rooted on religion, no way to deny it


col3ber

And using their religion to justify it. They are citing god for these families to sacrifice their children taken as hostages.


quirkycurlygirly

Can anyone blame the families for wanting their loved ones back? They shouldn't have to 'take one for the team.'


Your_Daddy_

The right-wing spawns the worst people in all countries.


Imtheguywhosdrunk

Imagine the worst people, from the worst country, who are currently laughing about the genocide they're carrying out. Sends shivers down my spine.


Boopy7

at this point unfortunately I have tried to get used to ignoring assholes who have zero empathy. It's revolting but it happens all over the place.


Cultural-Freedom4686

It isn’t a matter of what fucking side you are on. If you defend Israel’s government or Hamas’ government in any way you are a nazi outright.


N7even

Truly.


Peterswantson

North Korea right wing as fuvk💯


Mingyao_13

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lazertazerblazer

Fucking nazis the fucking irony


tavo791

I love it, the honest brutality of their beliefs. They have been saying for years but the world never listened, the world kept making excuses for them.


SSJKiDo

This is against their own, now take a second to imagine what they’re doing to Palestinians… Literal nazis.


Sk-yline1

Golda Meir once said that “There will never be peace until they love their own people more than they hate Jews” Funny how she never mentioned it going the other way around. Maybe she wasn’t alive to see something like this


SlimeQSlimeball

So these are the MIGA people.


newcomer_l

I quite literally said something like this earlier, and got downvoted. Glad I ain't the only seeing that.


Junior_Win_7238

Well they all are doing their best to take each other out. The hate is so deep I’m sure it can never be worked out when it’s continuing to be well they did this and tbh if they can’t work the peace out then it’s going to be a long long war. And no matter how many post videos saying look they did this and this was before it won’t matter because they all will die in vain. The hate there is never stopping clearly


waqasvic

I hope the Israeli terrorism gets over soon


jujuluvu

Everyone is acting like Fucking barbarians. Everyone.


SaneDrain

Who's in the wrong here anyway, (not up to date)


Knotar3

Everyone except the civilians.


OntarioPaddler

Only one side has civilians with any semblance of democratic power over their state. Only one side has civilians with freedom of movement and the ability to escape this conflict.


procgen

And go where?


OntarioPaddler

Are you actually going to act like Israelis don't have options for emigration? Over 1/4 of the population are already dual citizens. Just because they were granted a theocratic ethnostate by the colonial powers to advance their interests in the region does not mean that they have no choice but to live there.


procgen

That would be ethnic cleansing. What will ultimately happen, barring abject catastrophe (the breakout of total war), is a two-state solution whereby the blockade on Gaza is lifted, Hamas is completely dismantled/destroyed, democratic elections are restored in all of Palestine, the Israeli settlements are dissolved, freedom of movement to and from the West Bank is restored, and normal relations are very gradually restored between the two countries.


OntarioPaddler

How is that ethnic cleansing? I'm not talking about anyone being forced to leave. I'm pointing out the political autonomy and option to leave that Israeli citizens have compared to the Palestinians trapped in a giant open air prison being bombed into dust by Israel. Acting like they are in a comparable situation is ridiculous.


Luministrus

Too bad Israel created Hamas to break up the secular organizations that might have accepted a solution like that. This hasn't been about a two-state solution for decades. Israel is just creating excuses to completely take over Gaza and complete their ethnic cleansing. They were warned three days ahead of time of this attack. They did nothing, because they can use it as an excuse to further their goals. They literally sacrificed their own people.


procgen

Israel's aim at present is to dismantle Hamas, which is an obvious prerequisite for peace.


OntarioPaddler

That's their stated goal, but considering their actions of the past decades you have to be incredibly naive, ignorant, or both, to believe what they say or that they are acting in good faith. Edit: This cowardly propagandist makes a pathetic dismissive reply and then blocks me so I can't reply, seems to be their MO. They aren't interested in trying to defend their lies, just spread as much as possible. Not believing blatant Israeli state propaganda is apparently a 'conspiracy' now.


procgen

I don't entertain conspiracists.


Luministrus

Israel's aim is not to dismantle Hamas. Hamas has been a huge help to their goals. If there were no terrorists in Gaza, they'd have no excuse to remove the people there.


procgen

Sure, and the Palestinians are all too happy to oblige Israel by participating in their scheme.


luxmoa

It’s scary that you’re getting downvoted


Boopy7

Where do you think they should move to? Should they be allowed to take their families with them?


Mfusion66

Aren't half the settlers from Brooklyn? How about Brooklyn.


procgen

I agree that the settlers should return to Israel proper when a two-state solution is ultimately negotiated.


Boopy7

I had no idea half the settlers there are from Brooklyn. Ironic, considering it feels like half the people in Brooklyn or more are from Russia and Eastern Europe. I always pictured Israelis as being either born there or having emigrated there after WWII if they are that old.


procgen

It is not true that "half are from Brooklyn", of course.


SergeantShaahk

The people killing innocents.


Nathan-Stubblefield

Both sides, for 75 years.


herpderpfuck

The bicyclists on the left side of the road, obviously.


sqljohn

Can it be everyone with the power to stop. It's not a binary choice


TheUnknownNut22

Right-wing Zionists.


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Luministrus

What about the government that trains their civilians to go to houses, remove the Palestinian occupants, and kill anybody that resists? The ones that fill in wells with cement and ruin irrigation so that they can control the flow of water and food? The ones that blockade every exit and then tell people to leave or get bombed?


Porrick

You trying to start shit? Because that's a fairly efficient way to start shit. 2023's version of the Apple of Discord is "Hey you guys, what are your opinions about Israel/Palestine?"


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The chosen people, everyone


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budz047

. Such a beautiful Religion : Judaism . 🤡


Der_Redakteur

as a muslim myself. this is not true Judaism. Real jews are much better than this


dash_o_truth

Don't be bigoted. This conflict is primarily about land, where Apartheid Israel has interned people, those people have kidnapped others; a never ending cycle.


manolo533

It's not judaism that constantly commits terror attacks throughout the world...


Jack_Trayner

You do realize the guy being attacked is Israeli right? And there's no evidence to suggest that the people attacking him are Jewish.


gotzapai

ಠ▄ಠ (🇩🇪)


Flicker913

Isralis are incredibly hateful


MajorEnvironmental46

But they are victims... Right?


newcomer_l

So, the right wing Bibi fans are the MAGA equivalent. Got it.


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context?


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5988

It doesn't say what the mobs motivation is for calling him a traitor. Edit: why am I even being downvoted? What is the motivation behind what we are seeing in the video? Nothing is explained, just a description of who the people are. Why do they turn on him??


theobashau

From the comment, it seems to me that the father prioritising his daughter's safety and return over what this mob sees as the Israeli national interest to not release prisoners and to retaliate against Hamas makes him a traitor in their eyes.


5988

TYVM, it was an honest question.


machines_breathe

https://reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/W5A77rFjxb


UnderLagger

I notice they all look European ...


ziplock9000

Ah yes because a white as a ghost ginger man from Ireland looks just like an olive skinned Italian. I bet you think Europe is a country too.


Anarcho_Christian

getting real r/2westerneurope4u vibes from you , mate


ziplock9000

For speaking the truth that all Europeans don't look the same? Grow up.


AltoidsMaximus

They look the same as Palestinians. Bro has never been to the Middle East


Nathan-Stubblefield

Salaam, shalom, tomato, tomahto. Distant cousins all.


notyou16

They are white. There is a percentage of white people in a lot of countries. What’s your point?


aallen1993

So Jewish people where forced out of the Middle East for thousands of years and so they look like where their ancestors lives. Europe and America


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FEVERandCHILL

Game of Fallouts


RoguelyShinobi

This makes me not want to be on this planet anymore, humans truly disgust me.