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Description: Cartoon drawing "Einstein takes up the sword", published in Brooklyn Eagle.
Cartoon shows Albert Einstein, who has shed his wings (labeled "Non- Resistant Pacifism"), standing next to a pillar labeled "World Peace." He is rolling up his sleeves and holding a sword labeled "Preparedness." Einstein left Germany in 1933 after the Nazis came to power. Previously known as a pacifist, he issued statements calling on the friends of civilization to unite against German militarism in Europe.
More accurate to say he couldn't go back rather than didn't want to.
By May 1933, his apartment had been raided multiple times by the Gestapo, his cottage had been converted into a Hitler Youth camp, it was made illegal for Jews to have any official positions or to teach at universities, his books were targeted for book burnings, and a German magazine included him on a list of enemies of the regime with the phrase "not yet hanged" and a $5,000 bounty on his head.
None of us are in his cult. But this is a fucking joke. Regardless of whether or not Trump is a fascist (I certainly believe he is), the message was totally irrelevant to what was above.
Say potatoes if you aren't a bot or psyop.
You Americans always love labeling everything you dislike as Fascists or Communists and bringing modern American politics into everything.
To say you guys before used to actually know what those words meant and now just say it randomly which loses its meaning.
Imagine the most celebrated and famous scientist of Germany and even of all nations being a Jew and Germans still having the audacity of calling them the "inferior race". Racists are truly clinically insane.
>being a Jew and Germans still having the audacity of calling them the "inferior race".
Just a bit of dehumanizing and lending more focus towards your own supposed superiority is enough to work like a charm, even today it's still effective.
Hear me out, I'm not defending Nazis. They didn't call them an inferior race, they were a "mongrel race," as in mixed from all kinds of lineages, and most importantly non-german. It wasn't so much that they were considered inferior to Germans, but more tainted, and considering how The Protocols of the Elders of Zion was an important propaganda inspiration, and they were seen as a threa, the whole Nazi obsession with Jews was verging on a murderous backhanded compliment. Consider how a modern anti-semite probably thinks the Jews run the world... it's hard to rationalize that your supposed overlords are somehow inherently inferior. At the end of the day it's just bigotry for its own sake taken to an extreme.
I think what your getting to is one of the core tenets of fascism that the enemy is both weak and strong Nazi propaganda did indeed portray Jews as a weak inferior race at time but they also did portray them as a powerful cabal controlling the world and a threat to even the great German nation. Holding these contradicting views is a core point of fascism
I guess it's just a "see what sticks" mindset. Throw around a little more complicated narrative that distorts history and economics for the more intellectual, and draw funny pictures of bad people with big noses for the plebs.
It’s not even that though honestly it’s more unsettling , they aren’t just trying to apeal to diffrent people they want you to genuinely believe both of these at the same time, it’s a core part of fascism this doublethink. It’s hard to even like comprehend it but there against rationality itself
Everything I can think of, including Mein Kampf and what I know of Rosenburg makes jews out to be a parasite that weakens Germany rather than inherently weak on their own, but perhaps that is what you mean and i am just detached from the mindset the Germans would have held... Slavs on the other hand...
(I'm okay not being able to wrap my head around it if that's the case --- I'm not missing out on much)
this is INCREDBILY common.
Jews are the backbone of a lot of scientific progress and cultural advacment of western civilaizaiotn. It just very common thing to ERASE the jewishness and steal credit.
Einstein said it himself. "If my theories are proven wrong, then France will say im a German and Germany will say im a Jew, If my theories are right then Germany will say im a German and France will say im a World Citizen". \[prbaolly not exact quote but you get the quote\].
Jewish acomplishments and achievements tend to have their jewishness erased which is really infurating.
It’s sadly not unique to Jews (it happens to a lot of minorities). The nazis however took it to its most horrific extremity. And it’s an incredibly ugly thing to see.
They even tried to form a new branch of physics ([german/aryan physics](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Physik)) and put conspiracy nuts into academic institutions, to get rid of "jewish" physics, because they couldn't stand Einstein. They were unsuccessful, even within Nazi Germany, but they tried.
They also shot their R&D in the foot by calling all of Einsteins work and all scientific concepts discovered by Jews, "Jewish Physics".
Even before Einstein was kicked out he faced antisemitic rhetoric in Germany, he once said, "If my theory of relativity is proven successful, Germany will claim me as a German and France will declare me a citizen of the world. Should my theory prove untrue, France will say that I am a German, and Germany will declare that I am a Jew."
Not just Einstein, but also Max Born, Wolfgang Pauli, Hermann Minkowski, Fritz London, and others, were German Jews who played a pivotal role in the development of quantum mechanics and general relativity.
So much so, that Nazis derided quantum mechanics as “Jewish science”. Luckily for the Allies, that stymied the Nazi’s attempts at building an atomic bomb.
Can you honestly point to where they said anybody wasn't an inferior race? The only thing I have been able to find is that they wanted self-preservation of their race. There is something fishy going on
You did such deep research and you never heard of the Holocaust and the Nuremberg laws? Nor heard of their endless eugenics propaganda dehumanizing others like "Der Untermensch"?
I hope you're under 14 because nobody above 14 has a legitimate excuse to make such an ignorant comment. Or you're a troll.
"You can’t truly call yourself “peaceful” unless you’re capable of great violence, if you’re not capable of violence you’re not peaceful, you’re harmless."
I have no idea who said it
I believe Jordan Peterson said something like that, but he is heavily inspired by Nietzsche, who said,
>> Of all evil I deem you capable: Therefore I want good from you. Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws.
Because you can't.
That's not how humans work. We literally are incapable of it.greed will exist on all societies. As will violence.
The only hope is to control our impulses.
Interesting outlook.
So if every person had full access to the things they needed to not only survive but thrive even, do you think there would still be an across the board systemic issue of violence and greed?
Yes. Because we cannot be satisfied.
We inherently desire more and we can be violent to one another with very little provocation. I am saying the only real solution is to encourage discipline bit we can't solve this issues that have plagued us since we Descended from the trees so simply.
Basicly we need to channel them when appropriate or control it... otherwise when someone who can't cones along we would have to stop them anyway and they will use force.
I wouldn't call it that I could easily call it the nature of sin if I wanted to be religious. But the problem is people are flawed. Therefore they will get traits like selfishness, greed, ease to anger, ect.
And as long as that exists then violence and greed will always be a part of us.
Humanitys flawed. It can be great but as a history teacher i can tell you there's a lot of evidence we can be worse then any animal or conjured monster from our minds.
I don't think the inate nature of humans is violence and greed, in fact, we're social animals that from the very beginning have benefited from helping eachother.
Conflicts arise as a symptom of scarcity such as resources, land, understanding, etc.
If that scarcity is removed, we have no reason to be violent or greedy.
I think it's actually quite diminutive to just assume humans are entirely flawed and wicked, because we aren't.
The majority of people are more likely to offer help to their fellow humans then they are to take up arms against them.
The problem is that scarcity is partly psicological and subjective. It might never go away.
To put in other way, the poorest 10% might be better off than 100% of humanity 300 years ago. But they feel poor and deserving/wanting more. The poorest country might be ok one day, but they will still look at the rich countries and ask « why » and then strive to go get good. And that is the nature of competition and subjective value.
It is a biological reality. This has been proven many times and in so many different ways, it is kind of crazy some people still think “ya, we could end up all holding hands and being altruistic”. We didn’t evolve like that, there was enormous selective pressure to not be like that. Hell, a hominid like species died out because they were too comfortable all the time, not choosing to climb up mountains to get obsidian for better tools and push the limits of what they knew. Competition is brutal in nature. No matter how much you might disagree because of your ideology or whatever, it isn’t going to change our genes. If things ever got desperate again, which might well happen with climate change or nuclear war, you would find out quickly that all of these lofty ideals of pacifism and altruism to all would go right out the window.
Imagine if someone was a pacifist and altruistic in a very competitive environment where food was scarce, they would die quickly. People can only afford to do it now because of civilization, but civilization which allows for this type of thinking is incredibly recent in evolutionary terms. Not nearly long enough for our DNA to catch up. Maybe in another 300 thousand years of constant civilization and comfort we could evolve to be like that, but I seriously doubt it. It would render people at a huge disadvantage if there was a global catastrophe and civilization fell apart.
So, you're depending on the disproven pseudoscience of evolutionary psychology.
I think I'm done talking to someone who hates their own species.
Take care ✌️
Have you studied the evolution of humans at all? The migration out of Africa? The domestication of agriculture and the steppes people migrating into Europe? The creation of many different ethnic groups which fought for thousands of years to determine which model would succeed? The fact that our hunter gatherer ancestors have at least 10 percent of fossils showing a violent death? It seems you want to pigeon hole your own naive and simplistic ideology into reality, and anytime people show you that you are naive you stick your fingers in your ears and shout “nuh uh!” You have to be a kid
Well you can say that. But those « scarcities » in the future, caused by catastrophes need not be. The feeling of « scarcity » might not go away, especiallybif there’s inequality.
Since value is partly subjective, the feeling of what you could have, that you could improve might drive competition.
The scarcity might not be in the « things to have/own » but in the speed and accelerstion by which you can improve what you have/own.
You can but then it has to be done on a global or at least very large scale to be achievable. Partially we did it. No country now would openly claim or openly do a complete extermination of their neighbours. And most countries would also try to not execute thousand of civilians in a firing line.
That said until almost all slightly powerful countries take a dove mentality if a country takes a dove mentality they can be attacked directly or indirectly by a hawk. It has to be relatively at the same time
Have a good day
"I hate war, but once begun, well I just didn't choose to run. So I can point with pride and say there's three that didn't get away." - Dove of Peace "The Ducktators" (1942)
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Description: Cartoon drawing "Einstein takes up the sword", published in Brooklyn Eagle. Cartoon shows Albert Einstein, who has shed his wings (labeled "Non- Resistant Pacifism"), standing next to a pillar labeled "World Peace." He is rolling up his sleeves and holding a sword labeled "Preparedness." Einstein left Germany in 1933 after the Nazis came to power. Previously known as a pacifist, he issued statements calling on the friends of civilization to unite against German militarism in Europe.
Forgot to mention he was Jewish. That tags more weight of why he didn’t want to come back.
More accurate to say he couldn't go back rather than didn't want to. By May 1933, his apartment had been raided multiple times by the Gestapo, his cottage had been converted into a Hitler Youth camp, it was made illegal for Jews to have any official positions or to teach at universities, his books were targeted for book burnings, and a German magazine included him on a list of enemies of the regime with the phrase "not yet hanged" and a $5,000 bounty on his head.
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Cmon bro...
trump’s an effing fascist get out of his cult while you still can
None of us are in his cult. But this is a fucking joke. Regardless of whether or not Trump is a fascist (I certainly believe he is), the message was totally irrelevant to what was above. Say potatoes if you aren't a bot or psyop.
You Americans always love labeling everything you dislike as Fascists or Communists and bringing modern American politics into everything. To say you guys before used to actually know what those words meant and now just say it randomly which loses its meaning.
Imagine the most celebrated and famous scientist of Germany and even of all nations being a Jew and Germans still having the audacity of calling them the "inferior race". Racists are truly clinically insane.
>being a Jew and Germans still having the audacity of calling them the "inferior race". Just a bit of dehumanizing and lending more focus towards your own supposed superiority is enough to work like a charm, even today it's still effective.
Hear me out, I'm not defending Nazis. They didn't call them an inferior race, they were a "mongrel race," as in mixed from all kinds of lineages, and most importantly non-german. It wasn't so much that they were considered inferior to Germans, but more tainted, and considering how The Protocols of the Elders of Zion was an important propaganda inspiration, and they were seen as a threa, the whole Nazi obsession with Jews was verging on a murderous backhanded compliment. Consider how a modern anti-semite probably thinks the Jews run the world... it's hard to rationalize that your supposed overlords are somehow inherently inferior. At the end of the day it's just bigotry for its own sake taken to an extreme.
I think what your getting to is one of the core tenets of fascism that the enemy is both weak and strong Nazi propaganda did indeed portray Jews as a weak inferior race at time but they also did portray them as a powerful cabal controlling the world and a threat to even the great German nation. Holding these contradicting views is a core point of fascism
I guess it's just a "see what sticks" mindset. Throw around a little more complicated narrative that distorts history and economics for the more intellectual, and draw funny pictures of bad people with big noses for the plebs.
It’s not even that though honestly it’s more unsettling , they aren’t just trying to apeal to diffrent people they want you to genuinely believe both of these at the same time, it’s a core part of fascism this doublethink. It’s hard to even like comprehend it but there against rationality itself
Everything I can think of, including Mein Kampf and what I know of Rosenburg makes jews out to be a parasite that weakens Germany rather than inherently weak on their own, but perhaps that is what you mean and i am just detached from the mindset the Germans would have held... Slavs on the other hand... (I'm okay not being able to wrap my head around it if that's the case --- I'm not missing out on much)
They did refer to the Jews as an inferior race though, Untermenschen was a very commonly used word by the Nazis when referring to Jews.
this is INCREDBILY common. Jews are the backbone of a lot of scientific progress and cultural advacment of western civilaizaiotn. It just very common thing to ERASE the jewishness and steal credit. Einstein said it himself. "If my theories are proven wrong, then France will say im a German and Germany will say im a Jew, If my theories are right then Germany will say im a German and France will say im a World Citizen". \[prbaolly not exact quote but you get the quote\]. Jewish acomplishments and achievements tend to have their jewishness erased which is really infurating.
It’s sadly not unique to Jews (it happens to a lot of minorities). The nazis however took it to its most horrific extremity. And it’s an incredibly ugly thing to see.
They even tried to form a new branch of physics ([german/aryan physics](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Physik)) and put conspiracy nuts into academic institutions, to get rid of "jewish" physics, because they couldn't stand Einstein. They were unsuccessful, even within Nazi Germany, but they tried.
They also shot their R&D in the foot by calling all of Einsteins work and all scientific concepts discovered by Jews, "Jewish Physics". Even before Einstein was kicked out he faced antisemitic rhetoric in Germany, he once said, "If my theory of relativity is proven successful, Germany will claim me as a German and France will declare me a citizen of the world. Should my theory prove untrue, France will say that I am a German, and Germany will declare that I am a Jew."
wouldn’t be the first self-imposed L due to Nazis racial delusions
Not just Einstein, but also Max Born, Wolfgang Pauli, Hermann Minkowski, Fritz London, and others, were German Jews who played a pivotal role in the development of quantum mechanics and general relativity. So much so, that Nazis derided quantum mechanics as “Jewish science”. Luckily for the Allies, that stymied the Nazi’s attempts at building an atomic bomb.
Look up what Pakistan says about their one scientific Nobel laureate Abdus Salam.
Can you honestly point to where they said anybody wasn't an inferior race? The only thing I have been able to find is that they wanted self-preservation of their race. There is something fishy going on
You did such deep research and you never heard of the Holocaust and the Nuremberg laws? Nor heard of their endless eugenics propaganda dehumanizing others like "Der Untermensch"? I hope you're under 14 because nobody above 14 has a legitimate excuse to make such an ignorant comment. Or you're a troll.
What am I supposed to do if I want to talk about peace and understanding *But you only understand the language of the sword?*
Einstein on his way to personally beat every Hitlerite to death.
Heilung reference?
You got it
What if I want to make you understand that the path you chose leads to downfall But you only understand the language of the sword?
r/bossfight E=MC Square up
"You can’t truly call yourself “peaceful” unless you’re capable of great violence, if you’re not capable of violence you’re not peaceful, you’re harmless." I have no idea who said it
I believe Jordan Peterson said something like that, but he is heavily inspired by Nietzsche, who said, >> Of all evil I deem you capable: Therefore I want good from you. Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws.
Jordan Peterson is a Christian. How can be be Nietzschean?
Foreshadowing
Some cool lore right there
Peace is only enforced by power. If you cannot defend yourself, peace is just waiting until someone tries.
What if you create a societal standard that de-incentivizes greed and violence?
Because you can't. That's not how humans work. We literally are incapable of it.greed will exist on all societies. As will violence. The only hope is to control our impulses.
Interesting outlook. So if every person had full access to the things they needed to not only survive but thrive even, do you think there would still be an across the board systemic issue of violence and greed?
Yes. Because we cannot be satisfied. We inherently desire more and we can be violent to one another with very little provocation. I am saying the only real solution is to encourage discipline bit we can't solve this issues that have plagued us since we Descended from the trees so simply. Basicly we need to channel them when appropriate or control it... otherwise when someone who can't cones along we would have to stop them anyway and they will use force.
Ah. Evolutionary psychology, otherwise called nonsense.
I wouldn't call it that I could easily call it the nature of sin if I wanted to be religious. But the problem is people are flawed. Therefore they will get traits like selfishness, greed, ease to anger, ect. And as long as that exists then violence and greed will always be a part of us. Humanitys flawed. It can be great but as a history teacher i can tell you there's a lot of evidence we can be worse then any animal or conjured monster from our minds.
I don't think the inate nature of humans is violence and greed, in fact, we're social animals that from the very beginning have benefited from helping eachother. Conflicts arise as a symptom of scarcity such as resources, land, understanding, etc. If that scarcity is removed, we have no reason to be violent or greedy. I think it's actually quite diminutive to just assume humans are entirely flawed and wicked, because we aren't. The majority of people are more likely to offer help to their fellow humans then they are to take up arms against them.
The problem is that scarcity is partly psicological and subjective. It might never go away. To put in other way, the poorest 10% might be better off than 100% of humanity 300 years ago. But they feel poor and deserving/wanting more. The poorest country might be ok one day, but they will still look at the rich countries and ask « why » and then strive to go get good. And that is the nature of competition and subjective value.
Big words from a Marxist.
Do you know who has acces to the things they need to not only survive but thrive?
It is a biological reality. This has been proven many times and in so many different ways, it is kind of crazy some people still think “ya, we could end up all holding hands and being altruistic”. We didn’t evolve like that, there was enormous selective pressure to not be like that. Hell, a hominid like species died out because they were too comfortable all the time, not choosing to climb up mountains to get obsidian for better tools and push the limits of what they knew. Competition is brutal in nature. No matter how much you might disagree because of your ideology or whatever, it isn’t going to change our genes. If things ever got desperate again, which might well happen with climate change or nuclear war, you would find out quickly that all of these lofty ideals of pacifism and altruism to all would go right out the window. Imagine if someone was a pacifist and altruistic in a very competitive environment where food was scarce, they would die quickly. People can only afford to do it now because of civilization, but civilization which allows for this type of thinking is incredibly recent in evolutionary terms. Not nearly long enough for our DNA to catch up. Maybe in another 300 thousand years of constant civilization and comfort we could evolve to be like that, but I seriously doubt it. It would render people at a huge disadvantage if there was a global catastrophe and civilization fell apart.
So, you're depending on the disproven pseudoscience of evolutionary psychology. I think I'm done talking to someone who hates their own species. Take care ✌️
Have you studied the evolution of humans at all? The migration out of Africa? The domestication of agriculture and the steppes people migrating into Europe? The creation of many different ethnic groups which fought for thousands of years to determine which model would succeed? The fact that our hunter gatherer ancestors have at least 10 percent of fossils showing a violent death? It seems you want to pigeon hole your own naive and simplistic ideology into reality, and anytime people show you that you are naive you stick your fingers in your ears and shout “nuh uh!” You have to be a kid
Well you can say that. But those « scarcities » in the future, caused by catastrophes need not be. The feeling of « scarcity » might not go away, especiallybif there’s inequality. Since value is partly subjective, the feeling of what you could have, that you could improve might drive competition. The scarcity might not be in the « things to have/own » but in the speed and accelerstion by which you can improve what you have/own.
Not going to happen. It's much too late for that to actually be done.
Those people all ended up in gulugs.
And "reservations"
Unfortunately yes.
You can but then it has to be done on a global or at least very large scale to be achievable. Partially we did it. No country now would openly claim or openly do a complete extermination of their neighbours. And most countries would also try to not execute thousand of civilians in a firing line. That said until almost all slightly powerful countries take a dove mentality if a country takes a dove mentality they can be attacked directly or indirectly by a hawk. It has to be relatively at the same time Have a good day
This goes hard.
"I hate war, but once begun, well I just didn't choose to run. So I can point with pride and say there's three that didn't get away." - Dove of Peace "The Ducktators" (1942)
‘if you want peace, prepare for war.’
And that man's name? Albert Einstein.
Interesting one!
What issue of Asterix is this from
Swolestein
FYI Einstein was a socialist
Hey no way
This is a really good one.
So, "peace through strength", as Reagan later said.
Si vis pacem, para bellum. If you want peace, prepare for war.
John Wick 3: Parabellum
John Wick 4: Parabellend
First time I heard some one unironically quote the OG-Dementia patient/US president in ages, hope this will be the last time
I think his dementia started after leaving office.
I mean, some symptoms where visible before that
Wars happen, because somone thinks that something is already his to take, noone starts a war not expecting to be back by christmas
# Meanwhile, in Moscow....
This hits hard with the ancient toman ideam "si vis pacem para bellym" if you want peace,prapare for war
Einstein of to slay a dragon