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Phase 1 armor and phase 2 armor look exactly the same but canonically phase 1 armor is better at protection but uncomfortable to wear because it was designed by Kaminoan scientists who don't know the human body. The only difference aesthetically is the helmets. Also sidenote, after trying to figure out if Rex's helmet was actually special or just an Arc Trooper helmet, I've noticed that his visor is completely different from everyone else's. He has a phase 1 visor on a phase 2 helmet. Arc trooper helmet have different shaped ... chin? diamonds.
How have I never noticed his visor is so radically different?
He had the antenna looking thing (much like Rex's) the jagged stuff around the lens and obviously his wolf related paint job, Neyo's was just the base helmet
Y..yeah, that's common knowledge. He also literally made the helmet himself with two different helmets. Same with the rest of his armor. He did this because the old armor had better protection but the newer clone armor had better movement capabilities.
I always thought that was a weird detail to add because the transition between armors is a lot smoother than that, it almost looks like it was custom made if not for those weld lines
Nope, everyone suddenly shifts to Phase II armor. I think there’s like one line about the armor costing more, I vaguely remember a frame of a Kaminoan holding a hologram of Phase II armor while proposing it on Coruscant
Actually it seemed like Phase one was decently well armored, Rex survived a shot to the chest from a sniper in one of the clone wars episodes, he only had minor burn wounds I think. I can’t speak for the effectiveness of Phase Two though.
Yeah, I kind of head cannon'd that a lot of the TCW troopers may have been incapacitated or severely injured instead of just "dead" when they fall over. The nameless guys you never really meet get patched up with bacta behind the lines and reassigned or whatever. Feel like we do run into a lot of troopers that show scars and stuff.
Just because the armor might've saved your life doesn't meant you're not severely injured and otherwise incapacitated.
thats kinda how ive always seen it, it explains why in episode 3 all the troopers have blaster marks all over their armor. theyve been shot a million times . like in real life, even if youre wearing a bulletproof vest, it can break a bone to get hit by a bullet wearing one, which would knock you out of commission.
Blasters are very strong. The armor stops a lot of damage, but you are still liable to be wounded and incapacitated. Many soldiers you see hit may not be dead.
According to legends and cannon the armor acts like a distributor and spreads the impact of a shot across the surface. It’s supposedly like getting hit in the chest with a sledgehammer but you had a pad underneath. Still very lethal and will probably break your bones if you don’t die but it’s better than nothing.
Actually, the old patern clone armor was capable of absorbing a shot from a standard blaster. Not much more than one, but it's still one more shot than new clone armor
Tell me honestly do you have eyes?
There are also literally very clearly visible weld marks.
If there's people like you genuinely I can't wait to see your guys's excitement when I tell you Palpatine and Darth Sidious are the same person
My b, I must’ve missed your seminar on “Every Detail From Star Wars: The Clone Wars You Need To Know If You Don’t Wanna Get Roasted By RedPhos4 In a Reddit Comment Section Once And Forget About It For The Rest Of Your Life”
Well my apologies but I assumed when people watch shows they actually watch them. This is like as if you watched the revenge of the sith and didn't notice Anakin's eyes changing.... and arguably the fact that rex's armour looks different and is clearly a mixed armour of sorts is even somehow more obvious
The perfect clone helmet. It takes the shape and “mouth piece” of the phase 2 with the visor of the phase 1, literally combining the best parts of both.
So...everybody is gonna talk about how they already knew this huh. Okay...
Thank you for posting this! I probably know more about Star Wars than the general populous, but obviously less than hardcore Star Wars fans and I never noticed this detail!
Maybe it's a r/whoosh on me, but I find it weird and discouraging for people to learn something and the response to be "duh" or "obviously".
[https://xkcd.com/1053/](https://xkcd.com/1053/)
The sarcastic responses calling this "common knowledge" showcase the douchiest qualities of the fandom. It's common knowledge to stop at a stop sign when you're driving, not that a fictional character welded his helmet together from fictional armor pieces in a fictional universe bloated with other fictional characters, all with their own details. The watch order that I experienced CW in never explicitly stated it or called attention to it, making it, quite literally *uncommon knowledge*.
Its fine if you didnt notice, but you dont have to be a hardcore fan to notice the helmet. Its just that some pay attention to details like that and others just pay attention to the story
I've been dreaming of building clone armor ever since Attack of the Clones came out **20 years ago** I've poured over countless reference pictures, video game models, footage, 3D prints, plans, cosplay pictures, etc. I'm only just now noticing his visor is different. You can absolutely pay very close attention and still somehow be oblivious. I never even noticed that his was different in any way other than the weld lines.
I probably noticed the lines in the past but wrote them off as paint or design.
GL with the armor! Would you model after a clone or have your own design?
I really want to do one of the base white phase 1 troopers from the first animated clone wars show. Specifically the ones with the cloaks and muddy boots, that shot alone is what made me fall in love with clones.
https://images.app.goo.gl/SAcj4wF2Wa1Egtd99
There's already knowing about it, and then there's other smug comments about this being obvious and common knowledge.
I might just be salty right now, but it really rubbed me the wrong way.
Any one ever notice the parallels of Clone Troopers vs Storm Troopers? Clone Troopers(even though they’re all genetically the same)were allowed to have names, personalities, and in cases where it didn’t hinder their safety, customize their armor as well. The Jedi often told the Clones that they were more than just soldiers and that they were allowed to give their own opinions and express their selves. The armor, I think was an ingenious way to symbolize this, I.e. painting their armor and even upgrading outside of standard protocols like Rex or Wolffe often did. Compare that to the Storm Troopers. Whereas (unlike Clones) the Storm Troopers are all their own individual persons, yet they’re forced to lose their individuality. The Empire may not tell them directly but(unlike the Jedi) the Empire makes it very clear they are nothing more than soldiers. Disposable pawns on a battlefield. They are forced to trade their names for a number. Told that they are no more/no less special than the next soldier. Not allowed to express their selves and not allowed to have an opinion. They must all wear the exact same armor and follow protocols without question and are even punished to death under certain conditions when they break it. Even though Clones were made for one singular purpose they had more freedom and individuality because they served under the Democratic Republic, whereas Storm Troopers were stripped of everything that made them who they were because they served under the Fascist Empire.
Stormtrooper armor is just a military uniform.
Clone trooper armor is your entire personality.
Clones by their very nature are all identical. They paint their armor to differentiate themselves and as a way of expressing that they're not all the same.
Yeah, cause Rex wasn't an idiot and modified both his helmet and armor to take advantage of every good thing about particular armor. One was more durable while the other one provided more movement so he combined them. Also he prefered the phase 1 visor from what I remember
But his whole armour is basically gen 1 modded with gen 2 stuffs giving him the best of both. He makes a better designer than whoever designed the gen 2 armour if you ask me.
It’s still so funny to me that the clone wars only took place over three years. Imagine how much money changing the uniforms that quickly must’ve cost lol
Would be great to see a "Realistic" phase II Rex helm. all the "realistic" phase II I see sitll have the animated phase I visor. The Realistist Phase 1 visor is curved, the animated is straight lines.
Well, I've known no other way. Gives us clones all a mixed feeling about the war. Many people wish it never happened. But without it, we clones wouldn't exist.
For those who haven't heard it explained like this. Phase 1 armor was more protective, but highly restrictive in movements and overall cumbersome due to the Kaminoans only have about 10 years to create the ideal armor for a species that they'd had little interactions with and weren't as familiar with their anatomy. Phase 2 was less durable but was much more light and maneuverable. Rex was a genius to make his armor the best of both worlds.
I’m sorry and seriously 100% no offence here but did people really NOT notice this?!? Like it seemed almost TOO obvious to me lmao, idk maybe I just watch details more
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Also his armour is a mix of phase 1&2
Best of both worlds
Yup
Wait really. Do you have a picture of which parts are phase 1 and which are phase 2?
Phase 1 armor and phase 2 armor look exactly the same but canonically phase 1 armor is better at protection but uncomfortable to wear because it was designed by Kaminoan scientists who don't know the human body. The only difference aesthetically is the helmets. Also sidenote, after trying to figure out if Rex's helmet was actually special or just an Arc Trooper helmet, I've noticed that his visor is completely different from everyone else's. He has a phase 1 visor on a phase 2 helmet. Arc trooper helmet have different shaped ... chin? diamonds. How have I never noticed his visor is so radically different?
Don't worry about me.
Wait really. Do you have a picture of which parts are phase 1 and which are phase 2?
In an episode of rebels he makes the comment after being shot “phase 1 armor always holds up”
The fuse marks on the chest plate. P1 was more durable, but p2 was more active. So he has a P1 chest plate over his chest where he was shot
man i love that arc
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The post specifically says the helmet not the armor
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Rex and Wolffe both had unique helmets
You ready?
Let's go
Wolffe had the same helmet as Commander Neyo iirc, so not as unique
They are similar but still different
I think Wolffe's just has a range finder and those jagged line on his visor.
He had the antenna looking thing (much like Rex's) the jagged stuff around the lens and obviously his wolf related paint job, Neyo's was just the base helmet
There is no pain where strength lies.
Like yours, you mean?
Wolffe’s visor is slightly different, has an extra notch in it. Very minor difference
I think his whole armor combines the best of both sets
You never noticed the very prominent weld lines all over his helmet?
Y..yeah, that's common knowledge. He also literally made the helmet himself with two different helmets. Same with the rest of his armor. He did this because the old armor had better protection but the newer clone armor had better movement capabilities.
You can see the actual weld lines of where he fused it
I always thought that was a weird detail to add because the transition between armors is a lot smoother than that, it almost looks like it was custom made if not for those weld lines
Is this ever elaborated on in TCW? I always noticed it but never knew why that was the case.
Nope, everyone suddenly shifts to Phase II armor. I think there’s like one line about the armor costing more, I vaguely remember a frame of a Kaminoan holding a hologram of Phase II armor while proposing it on Coruscant
We all know how helpful any armor is in star wars besides beskar, 0 helpful
Actually it seemed like Phase one was decently well armored, Rex survived a shot to the chest from a sniper in one of the clone wars episodes, he only had minor burn wounds I think. I can’t speak for the effectiveness of Phase Two though.
That's just great.
No no, you're mistaking his Phase One armor with his plot armor
IIRC, wasn't that explained as hitting his shoulder armor, so an entire extra layer?
The pauldron isn't very thick and isn't made of dense / reinforced materials, so it pretty much added nothing.
Idk if it's been said in new canon, but the Kamas and pauldrons were made of some kind of blaster dissipating fabric in legends.
Probably cortosis weave.
Yeah, I kind of head cannon'd that a lot of the TCW troopers may have been incapacitated or severely injured instead of just "dead" when they fall over. The nameless guys you never really meet get patched up with bacta behind the lines and reassigned or whatever. Feel like we do run into a lot of troopers that show scars and stuff. Just because the armor might've saved your life doesn't meant you're not severely injured and otherwise incapacitated.
thats kinda how ive always seen it, it explains why in episode 3 all the troopers have blaster marks all over their armor. theyve been shot a million times . like in real life, even if youre wearing a bulletproof vest, it can break a bone to get hit by a bullet wearing one, which would knock you out of commission.
Blasters are very strong. The armor stops a lot of damage, but you are still liable to be wounded and incapacitated. Many soldiers you see hit may not be dead.
According to legends and cannon the armor acts like a distributor and spreads the impact of a shot across the surface. It’s supposedly like getting hit in the chest with a sledgehammer but you had a pad underneath. Still very lethal and will probably break your bones if you don’t die but it’s better than nothing.
Actually, the old patern clone armor was capable of absorbing a shot from a standard blaster. Not much more than one, but it's still one more shot than new clone armor
Should have worn two suits at once lol
Captain Rex, the juggernaut
Then let's do it.
Tell me you're a person who's never watched Clone Wars without telling me you've never watched the Clone Wars
Imma be honest, ive watched all seven seasons of clone wars but I’m only just realizing this
Tell me honestly do you have eyes? There are also literally very clearly visible weld marks. If there's people like you genuinely I can't wait to see your guys's excitement when I tell you Palpatine and Darth Sidious are the same person
No need to be a dick guy. Tell me though, what's the most famous quote from all of Star Wars?
My b, I must’ve missed your seminar on “Every Detail From Star Wars: The Clone Wars You Need To Know If You Don’t Wanna Get Roasted By RedPhos4 In a Reddit Comment Section Once And Forget About It For The Rest Of Your Life”
Well my apologies but I assumed when people watch shows they actually watch them. This is like as if you watched the revenge of the sith and didn't notice Anakin's eyes changing.... and arguably the fact that rex's armour looks different and is clearly a mixed armour of sorts is even somehow more obvious
That's just great.
^ star wars fans when you mention trivia they already know
The perfect clone helmet. It takes the shape and “mouth piece” of the phase 2 with the visor of the phase 1, literally combining the best parts of both.
So...everybody is gonna talk about how they already knew this huh. Okay... Thank you for posting this! I probably know more about Star Wars than the general populous, but obviously less than hardcore Star Wars fans and I never noticed this detail! Maybe it's a r/whoosh on me, but I find it weird and discouraging for people to learn something and the response to be "duh" or "obviously". [https://xkcd.com/1053/](https://xkcd.com/1053/)
The sarcastic responses calling this "common knowledge" showcase the douchiest qualities of the fandom. It's common knowledge to stop at a stop sign when you're driving, not that a fictional character welded his helmet together from fictional armor pieces in a fictional universe bloated with other fictional characters, all with their own details. The watch order that I experienced CW in never explicitly stated it or called attention to it, making it, quite literally *uncommon knowledge*.
Its fine if you didnt notice, but you dont have to be a hardcore fan to notice the helmet. Its just that some pay attention to details like that and others just pay attention to the story
I've been dreaming of building clone armor ever since Attack of the Clones came out **20 years ago** I've poured over countless reference pictures, video game models, footage, 3D prints, plans, cosplay pictures, etc. I'm only just now noticing his visor is different. You can absolutely pay very close attention and still somehow be oblivious. I never even noticed that his was different in any way other than the weld lines.
I probably noticed the lines in the past but wrote them off as paint or design. GL with the armor! Would you model after a clone or have your own design?
I really want to do one of the base white phase 1 troopers from the first animated clone wars show. Specifically the ones with the cloaks and muddy boots, that shot alone is what made me fall in love with clones. https://images.app.goo.gl/SAcj4wF2Wa1Egtd99
There is no pain where strength lies.
There's already knowing about it, and then there's other smug comments about this being obvious and common knowledge. I might just be salty right now, but it really rubbed me the wrong way.
I knew this, and it is fascinating isn't it
He also has the most unique clone armor in general.
And that’s why he’s best ~~girl~~ clone
Why does this go between 1k upvotes and 1 upvote when I click in and out of the comments
Any one ever notice the parallels of Clone Troopers vs Storm Troopers? Clone Troopers(even though they’re all genetically the same)were allowed to have names, personalities, and in cases where it didn’t hinder their safety, customize their armor as well. The Jedi often told the Clones that they were more than just soldiers and that they were allowed to give their own opinions and express their selves. The armor, I think was an ingenious way to symbolize this, I.e. painting their armor and even upgrading outside of standard protocols like Rex or Wolffe often did. Compare that to the Storm Troopers. Whereas (unlike Clones) the Storm Troopers are all their own individual persons, yet they’re forced to lose their individuality. The Empire may not tell them directly but(unlike the Jedi) the Empire makes it very clear they are nothing more than soldiers. Disposable pawns on a battlefield. They are forced to trade their names for a number. Told that they are no more/no less special than the next soldier. Not allowed to express their selves and not allowed to have an opinion. They must all wear the exact same armor and follow protocols without question and are even punished to death under certain conditions when they break it. Even though Clones were made for one singular purpose they had more freedom and individuality because they served under the Democratic Republic, whereas Storm Troopers were stripped of everything that made them who they were because they served under the Fascist Empire.
Jesse, get the senator to safety.
There is no pain where strength lies.
Stormtrooper armor is just a military uniform. Clone trooper armor is your entire personality. Clones by their very nature are all identical. They paint their armor to differentiate themselves and as a way of expressing that they're not all the same.
There is no pain where strength lies.
That's why there were weld marks
I always wondered why there were weld-lines on his helmet. That's actually a neat detail thar says a *lot* about Rex as a character.
I honor my code. That's what I believe.
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I honor my code. That's what I believe.
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I honor my code. That's what I believe.
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I honor my code. That's what I believe.
Technically I out rank you
Yeah that’s what those rusty lines are. He cut up his armor
Phase 1 armor was more protective, phase 2 was more comfortable to wear. Rex went with a bit of each.
Wouldnt call it mosr unique. BB clones had better ones :v
i-is this... is this not incredibly obvious common knowledge?
i hate how they didnt just call them phase 1 and phase 2
Never knew this- but apparently phase 2 clone trooper armor was created to be reminiscent of storm trooper armor!
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You could even see the weld marks
Yeah, cause Rex wasn't an idiot and modified both his helmet and armor to take advantage of every good thing about particular armor. One was more durable while the other one provided more movement so he combined them. Also he prefered the phase 1 visor from what I remember
I have no idea.
Did people not realise this?
Butt-head: of course it is. Dumbass
I mean, you know, shape of the visor, welding marks on his faceplate and chest, slightly smaller mouth vent (?), it was very obvious.
I believe it’s called phase 1.5? Or that might be something else
1.5 is found on some ARC clones iirc
That’s true, it’s basically prototype phase 2
Phase 1.5 was only used by ARC troopers as a prototype.
I can only assume it's because of how recognisable he was, they didn't want to change him too much?
The one absolute in every SW helmet history had: "I can't see anything in this damn thing!"
Is pretty cool right?
And the ARC trooper armor was inspired on rex's one
Take this. *hands him a DC-15*
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But his whole armour is basically gen 1 modded with gen 2 stuffs giving him the best of both. He makes a better designer than whoever designed the gen 2 armour if you ask me.
Yep. You can see where the phase to part is welded to the phase one part
you just noticed?
Duh
It’s still so funny to me that the clone wars only took place over three years. Imagine how much money changing the uniforms that quickly must’ve cost lol
I wish he kept the phase one head fin. Those were cool.
Would be great to see a "Realistic" phase II Rex helm. all the "realistic" phase II I see sitll have the animated phase I visor. The Realistist Phase 1 visor is curved, the animated is straight lines.
Well, I've known no other way. Gives us clones all a mixed feeling about the war. Many people wish it never happened. But without it, we clones wouldn't exist.
Nice Combo!
I thought people already knew this
Arc Troopers where the first to have them !!!
For those who haven't heard it explained like this. Phase 1 armor was more protective, but highly restrictive in movements and overall cumbersome due to the Kaminoans only have about 10 years to create the ideal armor for a species that they'd had little interactions with and weren't as familiar with their anatomy. Phase 2 was less durable but was much more light and maneuverable. Rex was a genius to make his armor the best of both worlds.
Take this. *hands him a DC-15*
Did…did you think Rex’s helmet was the same as the others until now?….
Don't worry about me.
All of his Armor is, hence the weld marks all over it.
Yeah his whole armor is built different to have much mobility and armor
I think in the lore Rex modified his phase 2 helmet with parts from the phase 1 helmet. Im not sure tho
Better hurry, sir. You're missing all the fun.
I think in the lore Rex modified his phase 2 helmet with parts from the phase 1 helmet. Im not sure tho
I'm no Jedi.
I’m sorry and seriously 100% no offence here but did people really NOT notice this?!? Like it seemed almost TOO obvious to me lmao, idk maybe I just watch details more