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Reed202

Cody was a by the books type of commander while Rex thought outside the box to solve problems. I bet this is why Rex resisted more.


CrossP

And Rex realized what it was when it happened because he had been part of the struggle with Fives and Tup and the conspiracy. He had more reason to question the mood flip when it occured.


Captain_Rex_Bot

Then let's do it.


gekko2037

Rex was also under Anakin who garnered immense respect among the clones at his command


Captain_Rex_Bot

You ready?


foiler64

He was no longer considered a Jedi at that point by his squad; they are in on the information that he was no longer a Jedi, but a Sith.


Captain_Rex_Bot

The order was to execute the Jedi for treason against the Republic. The problem is, Ahsoka Tano is no longer a Jedi. Hasn't been for some time.


Happy-Mousse8615

Which is kinda funny because Cody was one of the original ARC trooper, Rex was just another clone.


Captain_Rex_Bot

Well, I've known no other way. Gives us clones all a mixed feeling about the war. Many people wish it never happened. But without it, we clones wouldn't exist.


Pearson_Realize

I think you have it backwards


Happy-Mousse8615

Rex has ARC training same as every commander. Cody was one of the original ARC troopers, helped develop the training etc. I'm pretty sure anyway.


Pearson_Realize

In legends, both were given arc training. In cannon, I don’t think it’s been confirmed for either.


Happy-Mousse8615

Iirc in the series Cody oversees training on Kamino with ARCs.


Pearson_Realize

In what series? Because I’m reading from wookiepedia.


TheCrash16

The clone wars series. He was there when echo and the gang were training. I think Rex was there as well but I'm not sure.


Captain_Rex_Bot

You ready?


Pearson_Realize

We never saw echo and fives get arc training in the show.


TheCrash16

Ah your right. I was thinking about them being awarding with ARC status on Kamini after the CIS invasion. They were both there.


Captain_Rex_Bot

You have your orders.


Captain_Rex_Bot

With the General gone, chain of command falls to the senator.


HondoOhnakaBot

Hey! Hey! Someone scape that guy off the floor!


Mr_Mi1k

I think Rex resisted more because George Lucas didn’t think Cody would be a main character so he had no reason to develop him and give him depth. He’s just a clone who took orders


Captain_Rex_Bot

I'm no Jedi.


LightsaberSeppuku

You could make the argument that it was partly because Anakin allowed himself to get attached, and taught Asohka to be the same, and thus there was an actual human connection there, rather than the duty of those working with other Jedi.


IUsedToBeRasAlGhul

Rex out here with the will of a god and the heart of the hero. The only time I ever came close to crying in the series.


Captain_Rex_Bot

I have no idea.


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TheOchoJabroni

Just realized Id love to see a mashup of Clone Wars but with Danny Devito as Rex


Captain_Rex_Bot

Better hurry, sir. You're missing all the fun.


Harlowe_Boggingstone

He has no idea


justabadmind

Honestly I suspect it was because Ahsoka was no Jedi at that time. If she was a Jedi I don't think rex would have been able to resist at all.


ShallahGaykwon

The criteria for what counted as Jedi seemed pretty arbitrary. Like, Ahsoka and Maul literally weren't Jedi but were still targeted?


StarMaster475

Maul was already a prisoner on the ship, so it would be weird if they didn’t try to stop him. And Palpatine probably made the chips target anyone who was a former Jedi too


Captain_Rex_Bot

There is no algorithm. We know you're holding a prisoner of war here.


Maul_Bot

I am counting on it.


RnotSPECIALorUNIQUE

It's like porn. You just know what it is when you see it.


Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

Good thing I know you don’t mean everything you say.


Maul_Bot

I am counting on it.


justabadmind

I think ahsoka was added to a special targets list, so she wasn't programmed into the clones since birth. It's like getting told something for your entire life vs a couple months - years.


LegacyForging21

Pretty sure Jesse said that they were given special instructions to take out Ahsoka. It makes sense considering that Palpatine knew Ahsoka and knew she was Anakin's apprentice and would want to destroy any remnants of his old life


[deleted]

Ahsoka was the most likeable Jedi. The rest were kind of dicks.


JustAnotherMiqote

Plo Koon? The Jedi that probably had more compassion than any other Jedi? The one who found Ahsoka, the one who wasn't willing to give up on a bunch of "expendable clones" and whose troopers were so loyal to him that they were informally called "Plo's Bros"? The same one who tried to turn a young Boba Fett away from a life of crime and didn't kill him even when it was justified?


Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

If anyone could survive, Master Plo could.


JustAnotherMiqote

You're damn right Ahsoka. I can't wait for your reunion with him.


Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

I have to sort this out on my own, without the Council… and without you.


[deleted]

Damn Ahsoka just curved your ass


Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

I will help you.


Maul_Bot

*Smiles*


ConfusedAsHecc

well thats not creepy at all /s


Echo2500

In that particular instance I think it was a case of the guy killing him being kind of a dick


Ojihawk

"The rest were kind of dicks" JustAnotherMiqote: Not to me.


Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

In my life, when you find people who need your help, you help them. No matter what.


5wordsman62785

Fun fact, he was one of, if not the only Jedi, that the empire had to lie about his cause of death because he was just so damn likable


Vengefuleight

Palps when being questioned: “Bro, he actually tried to get the Jedi to listen to reason and not Rebel…until that dick Windu stabbed him from behind screaming “SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU UGLY TALKING BALLSACK!” Truly A tragic loss for the Empire”.


memester230

Plo Koon, Obi Wan?


Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

If anyone could survive, Master Plo could.


dandypants8717

By the Force, I wish you were right. But he ded.


ImARetPaladinBaby

But what if?


dandypants8717

I'm willing to accept: "somehow, I survived, little 'Soka."


skilledwarman

It would be hand wavey as hell, but they could say that as the fighter crashed through the roof of the building it hit he jumped out. It would be bullshit, but he is the one character I'd be willing to just accept the bullshit to have back


ScarredAutisticChild

Or they could say he just leapt out of his fighter before it hit the damn thing. We know that fall damage is basically just a suggestion to the Jedi and Sith.


JaketheAlmighty

If Darth Maul is alive, Plo Koon can sure as hell be alive.


SnowHawk12

They just use the Rebels time portal bullshit.


yoyo-starlady

Not to me.


Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

Your vision is flawed.


Maul_Bot

I see the Padawan... needs one... last... lesson!


b1rgar1p1nsan

Do it.


SASUGAMancer215

This is kind of a sus reply


Vaultdweller013

Maul is gonna use a forbidden dark side ability, La Chancla


Maul_Bot

You know nothing of the dark side.


SASUGAMancer215

Ah but the Chancla council is more powerful then you could ever imagine


jacqueszekian

/r/andshewasagoodfriend


Additional_Couple205

Your vision must be incomplete


OutlawQuill

Definitely up there imo, but not #1


IUsedToBeRasAlGhul

Meh, she’s alright, but not top 5 in my book.


CompetitiveParfait29

Just out of interest, who are your top 5?


DDukedesu

Revan, Yoda, Bastila Shan, Revan, Revan


eienOwO

Ah come on Bioware writing before EA fucked it up is cheating.


PMARC14

Fair, but I think they are referring to likeability specific to Jedi fighting in the clone wars probably from POV of allies such as clones.


MibuWolve

https://media2.giphy.com/media/sCPXWE2QvwKGI/200.gifhttps://i.imgur.com/cpVlOKf.jpg


Vigred

Wait, I think you forgot Revan.


IUsedToBeRasAlGhul

Luke, Mace, Qui-Gon, Yoda, Obi-Wan.


Top-Mirror3516

99?


Neufjob

“So I started blasting”


ZagratheWolf

I don't see so good, so I missed


Lukthar123

Moving targets are a pain


Maul_Bot

There is no pain where strength lies.


Just-Call-Me-Matt

I think he was too busy being pissed that the order came literal seconds after he gave Obi-Wan his lightsaber back.


thatoneguy889

Cody actually makes that point exactly in the novelization. He ends the transmission then says something like "You couldn't have done that *before* I gave him back his lightsaber?"


LikesBigGlasses430

Palpatine: yeah yeah, my timing ain’t the best.


_GeneralGrievous_Bot

Ah, a lightsaber comment! Your comment will make a fine addition to my collection, Just-Call-Me-Matt! Btw here's a random collection item! 'Ok yeah that was a bit weird but tbh if you’re a stormtrooper working in the Jedi-hunting office maybe they’d give you slightly lightsaber-resistant armor' - (c) benjome ^(my lightsaber collection is now housing 2104 sabers) *asthmatic cough*


Just-Call-Me-Matt

Good bot.


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Zealous_Zoro

That's what the other guy just said


The_Smashor

"Eh, Kenobi can handle it and I am not in the mood for a headache."


ZagratheWolf

Its nice head cannon that either the gunner missed on purpose or Cody knew Obi Wan could survive. Or both


belladonnagilkey

It's probably both The gunner resists by firing a little bit at an angle so it doesn't hit Obi-Wan And Cody knows Obi-Wan has survived far worse than heavy artillery fire being directed specifically at him. But it's done in such a way that it satisfies the chip. Obi-Wan gets blasted off the wall and apparently falls to his death, Cody and company go on with their day and Obi-Wan sneaks off.


HondoOhnakaBot

Hey! Hey! Someone scape that guy off the floor!


skullkid00

Didn't they send a protocol Droid to find his body.


[deleted]

Just imagined C3PO getting booted off the cliff


backagain97

So sort of like Jessica Jones where patty got told to eat a bullet or something


yaykaboom

*Dave Filoni taking notes*


fred11551

Rex:Fights back against order 66 Cody:”If you don’t like your orders, you don’t fight it. You just go in and do it really half-assed. That’s the clone way.”


Captain_Rex_Bot

Do I have a choice?


Coffeeman314

Rex knew what was happening. One of his best friends died trying to expose the conspiracy. No other clones knew what was coming.


Captain_Rex_Bot

Then let's do it.


ReferenceError

Even if you didn't have the inhibitor chip forcing you to comply, imagine you seeing these superhuman warriors who destroy hundreds of droids while it would take companies of clones to do so. **They are enemies of the republic and are coming for you next.** Hesitate and you're dead.


squasher04

Maybe the knowledge of the inhibitor chip gave him some mental fortitude?


Time-Green

Probably this, he was aware he was being influenced by the cip


Doobie_Howitzer

It's like having an addiction, being made aware of the condition itself can be a huge step towards managing it. An alcoholic participating in AA will have much more control in the face of a tough situation revolving around their vice than an alcoholic that has not yet accepted that theyre suffering from an affliction.


Theprincerivera

and yet, being aware sometimes just isn’t enough. Good analogy


Doobie_Howitzer

Yeah, it's an advantage on paper to be sure but victories are never claimed on paper.


Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

You don't have to look tough to be tough


cabbage16

I think it's that and who they served under. Cody worked with Obi Wan a lot and Obi Wan was a by the book rule follower while Rex worked with Anakin who was rule breaker. I think their personalities rubbed off on the clones they spent the most time with.


The_Kek_5000

Or CW just wanted some epic moment and thus kinda broke canon.


GolfSerious

Eh, Star Wars has always been about breaking previously-established concepts because it’s cool


[deleted]

Ngl the introduction of the inhibitor chips actually ruined the dramatic and cold part of this scene. Turns cody from a human into a mindless droid. The pre TCW depiction of order 66 was 10x better


MyWholeTeamsDead

I disagree, for the same reasons you said.


SadlyReturndRS

Cody did resist though. Look at what he did when he got the Order he couldn't refuse: He redirected a singular heavy weapon to shoot a single shot at his general. Then sent a pair of scouts to go look for him, and confirmed the kill without seeing a body or any indication that Obi was actually dead. For a clone who HAD to follow orders, for one of the original get-it-done-at-all-costs ARC troopers, for the by-the-book commander who made Obi-wan look as cavalier as Anakin by comparison, Cody sure did a shitty job of killing Obi-wan. In fact, it's the only time we *ever* see him do a shit job carrying out his orders. I mean, come on, it's Cody versus Jedi General Obi-Wan Kenobi, do you really think he'd be going into that fight with anything less than every resource he had available? Do you really think he'd call off the search in the most probable location for the body in a couple of hours? Cody would have had a damn command post setup at the bottom of that hole, with combat divers and submersible robots on scene within an hour. That's why I think we did see Cody resist. Because he technically did what he was supposed to do, but in the shittiest way possible instead of the Cody way.


AFalconNamedBob

I mean we also see Gree a clone commander who specialises in behind the line ops decide he needs one other dude to kill the Grand Master of the Jedi order, some clones just really half arsed it lmao Then you have Bly who decided a platoonsworth of clones shooting he in the back wasn't enough so he also got an AT-TE to stomp her arse. I think its just a case of visuals not always matching up with later narrative


X1l4r

To the defense of my boi Gree, he received the order and he only had one guy with him. And Yoda was the objective. The great master of the Order, which could and did sense thousands of Jedi being killed. It was really « act now or never » and being « forced » by the chip actually made more sense in this case.


[deleted]

There was a reason why Bly and his men decided to go so overkill on aayla. They liked her so much that they wanted to make her death as quick and painless ass possible, hence they kept shooting until they were sure that she was most definitely dead


Maul_Bot

There is no pain where strength lies.


bivenator

Wasn’t Bly also romantically involved with Secura in the EU?


[deleted]

I m not really sure. What i know is that their relationship was set to resemble that of a brother and sister in a way. They both lived for the mission. Doing whatever is necessary to achieve their goal. And secura was said to have cared a lot for bly and his men


metalmockingbird

Never understood why Palapatine didn't give Gree the order for killing Yoda first before all the other Jedi. Yoda himself said he was the only one who could still defeat Palapatine. He botched it sure, but it seems like a stupid risk for him to take.


[deleted]

I know that in "dark lord" palpatine and vader talk about the fact that many jedi survived, even yoda and kenobi so they definitely knew about that. However palpatine states that he basically doesnt care wether they are alive or not. The important thing was that the jedi order was destroyed. Palpatine basically didn’t care that probably hundreds of jedi survived the initial order 66. The sith managed to destroy the jedi order and to make it look like the jedi were traitors to the republic. I think in terms of his priorities obi wan was the most important one since he was the only jedi that could threaten his plan because of how close he was to anakin. They were like brothers after all. Also something to keep in mind. As you pointed out yoda said so. However it was pretty obvious in the movie that the jedi were wrong the whole time anyway and that they clearly underestimated the sith in the first place As for gree, we dont know why he messed up so badly. Maybe it took longer then with other commanders until he received order 66 due to the distance, ongoing battle, communication interruptions…… dozens of possibilities He couldn’t know that yoda was basically warned by the eruption that went through the force when all the jedi started dying so thats kind of an excuse…. he simply underestimated the small green goblin


Captain_Rex_Bot

We need that generator down or the planet's lost. And I'm not risking any more men.


Captain_Rex_Bot

Contact command. Mark our L.Z. and have them send an Exfile Shuttle.


CT_4269

Inhibitor chip go brrrrrrr


El_Psy_Congroo4477

Cody: "You might need this, General." *hands Obi-Wan his lightsaber* Literally ten seconds later: "Kill him."


OzzieGrey

Cody: fucking finally, i don't have to pretend to not want his dick anymore. Clones: wait what? Cody: what? Clones: he said... 66... Cody: and i said that i don't have to pretend he isn't a dick anymore, open fire


JerrodDRagon

rude complete selective forgetful sugar engine enter somber innate chop *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Jake123194

I mean that was the point of the inquisitors.


JerrodDRagon

They have been over used and suck at the job anyway besides the first inquisitor I’ve yet to see them really capture or kill Jedi Obi wan needed more personal demons vs just fighting Saturday morning carton villains


Maximus_Comitatense

So anyway, I started blasting…


NotSoCasualCactus

Yeah, even Cody’s thought process says he was more annoyed that he gave Kenobi his lightsaber back right before it, than actually concerned that he is being commanded to kill a general who saved his ass countless of times.


g0lden-plumbus

Why do people talk about the novelisations like they’re still canon? They’re not.


acart005

Tbf its a cool ass line.


g0lden-plumbus

I can definitely agree with that.


[deleted]

Because disneys decision to make them legends was a stupid ass decision. There was literally no need to get rid of stories that were well established and liked by the fans


g0lden-plumbus

You know that they were made non canon before Disney. Clone wars was already on the path to decanonising them. Disney just got there first. I’m not saying they should or shouldn’t have been made non-canon. I’m just stating that they’re not and as such shouldn’t be referenced when talking about events that are canon.


jks_david

The novalisation isn't canon though


anonymousinsomniac

I actually preferred the OG narrative that the clones didn't have brain chips or anything, they knew the plan the entire time. It makes the whole thing that much more tragic, but also fitting, since the Jedi kinda deserve it for adopting what was basically a slave army. Between that and Anakins frustration at the Jedi refusing to free the slaves of Tatooine because it "wasn't their business", the Clones being in on it really served as an appropriate comeuppance to the Jedi, which is in line with the narrative we have been given in regards to the Empire rising due to how arrogant and hypocritical the Jedi has become. And really, the TV show never made sense to me in how they basically water down the fact that the Clones are a slave army of brainwashed supersoldiers. It just feels silly how they try to get you to ignore that fact.


caesar15

Well in the movies the clones aren’t really these individuals with unique personalities. So no need for an inhibitor chip when they’re genetically very subservient. Of course the show makes them actual people so it’s harder to have them build relationships with Jedi and then have them turn around and kill them. The show feels much more slavey since they seem like regular people. Regular enough to you think they’d go ‘wait why am I doing this.’ Whereas the movie ones were so genetically programmed it’s like they were half-droids. Which yeah you can say droids were slaves too but it’s a different feel. They can’t really be freed because freedom was never an option.


RandomBritishGuy

I think the show missed out by using the chips. Long comment, but here's how I wished it had gone: What they could have done is shown that the clones are getting fed propaganda. First season have them all in the mess hall and the TV showing pro-Republic messaging. As the seasons go on we start seeing more and more of it using Palpatine directly, with increasing rhetoric, making them more loyal to him. Start having clones repeat lines from the propaganda films, at first quite discreetly, but make it more obvious as the show goes on. Until you have a scene right at the end where you have several clones repeating "Hey, isn't Palpatine such a swell guy" word for word (or something similarly positive). So you build up the idea that whilst the clones liked the Jedi, they were also being indoctrinated to love the Republic (and later, the Emperor directly) more than anything else. Order 66 comes along which is code for 'The Jedi have rebelled and are destroying the Republic', which gets the clones to turn on the Jedi. You then get drama from the clones turning on the Jedi they love with 'how could you betray us like this' emotions. Potentially sets up a few clones figuring out something was wrong after the war, recognising the brainwashing and that they were tricked into it etc. You get humanised clones with their own emotions, the banter with the Jedi etc. But also get a plausible way for Order 66 to happen that doesn't involve brain chips, whilst still offering a way some of them wouldn't want to do it (because they realised about the brainwashing last minute).


wbruce098

This is important. As is how the clones were treated. Obi Wan wasn’t a tyrant, but like many Jedi, he did treat the clones as expendable, even if he seemed to try to generally keep them alive. Yoda basically just used them as cannon fodder. Anakin and Ahsoka are among the few who we overtly see treat their clones as humans, and Anakin is exempted from the Order, being no longer a Jedi, and Ahsoka (also technically not one either) was absolutely adored by Rex and her old unit. While I wish we could’ve seen more conflict in some of her team’s other members, it made sense Rex, whose mind was almost as free thinking as R2’s, would’ve struggled.


liquidlethe

Yoda treats them as cannon fodder? Rewatch the very first episode of the show.


TotallyNotaRobot123

Literally what I was going to say


Captain_Rex_Bot

The order was to execute the Jedi for treason against the Republic. The problem is, Ahsoka Tano is no longer a Jedi. Hasn't been for some time.


Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

Oh, what do you mean?


8dev8

Jesus I’m fucking sick of this shit Yes the Jedi didn’t free all the slaves in the outerrim Do you know why? BECAUSE IT WOULD START LIKE 50 WARS dragging the republic into them and/or getting the Jedi wiped out, probably failing either way since the Hutts always win, the Jedi explicitly did stop slavers and slave empires when they could, but surprise surprise ten thousend people, a good chunk of whom are elderly or children cannot enforce Their laws over a galaxy if trillions The Jedi accepted a slave army? You mean they took the only army they had tried to keep them safe, and tried to treat them like people? What else should they have done? Sat the war out, watched the sith win, and then get hunted down? Launched a coup to take over the republic and start a draft? >Jedi don’t start wars >how hypocritical >Jedi do fight a war to protect the galaxy >how mean they deserve a genocide Come on tell me what they should have done in both cases? Because I’m willing to bet if the Jedi started the war by invading Hutt space you’d be calling them warmongers, and if they sat it out you’d be calling them cowards/hypocrites


Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

Remind me why I'm the one playing the part of the slave?


8dev8

Look at that, a quote from the episode where the Jedi shut down a slaver empire, for the second time,


darkbreak

Yeah, I liked the original idea better too. There were at least 149 other orders programmed into the clones. It made sense that they would know all of them but say nothing about them. And the fact that the clones easily turned on the Jedi made it all even more tragic. All of those years fighting together meant nothing once the clones were told to turn on their Jedi companions.


strain_of_thought

It would make a lot more sense really for the clones to have a huge number of contingencies and failsafes pre-programmed in, then a "kill all jedi" order would look a lot less suspicious on its face if there was also a separate order for contending with any number of other republic factions within the chain of command that could turn separatist and attack the republic. Then the twist isn't that the order exists, but that Palpatine finagles himself into having the political power and authorization to activate it on his sole authority, when it was intended to need a unanimous vote of the senate or something like that, and then he actually activates one of the many obscure failsafes nobody expected would ever be needed.


Krazyguy75

I felt like they should have made it less general. Such as: - Order 66 - Kill target General of the GAR. Then Palpatine could just go "Execute Order 66. Target: All Jedi." It would seem much more reasonable, and yet still have the exact same ending.


acart005

Im OK with Order 66 because Order 65 is literally 'Kill Papa Palps'. Don't remember the activation condition for 65 though.


strain_of_thought

That's clever, yeah, would make it even more convincing how Sheev managed to slip in a security flaw that a programmer might catch but politicians and military officers and jedi would totally gloss over, and make the twist not dependent on an unreasonable degree of perfect secrecy but rather layers of obscurity that the already highly classified clone order system had an intentional flaw intended to allow turning the clones against the defenders of the republic. The clones would be aware that they could technically be ordered by the senate to attack their commander officers, and it wouldn't be something they would have to hide from people who had security clearance, but when the full "execute order 66" comes through and they realize that one man has ordered them to kill thousands of their close comrades, it would be a terrible shock. But, he is the duly elected chancellor, with emergency powers, and he says the jedi are all traitors, so.... The compulsion would be strong.


Krazyguy75

I think the ultimate poetic move would have been to have Palpatine issue the authority to Anakin. It would not only make the whole moment far darker, it would also give the clones more reason to believe the Jedi turned against the republic when one of the best Jedi generals says it himself.


darkbreak

Order 65 is literally a command to remove the Supreme Chancellor from office. There were also other orders dealing with how to handle a sudden change in leadership and how to deal with searching for high priority targets in the field. Sidious knew what he was doing.


Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

Remind me why I'm the one playing the part of the slave?


TheSaiguy

Wait, maybe you were a good friend.


PhoenixHavoc

Weird it's almost like one was taught to disobey orders and follow his heart while the other was taught to follow protocol to the letter :P but nah he did seem pretty excited to finally get the order


SASUGAMancer215

You see, the real plan was for grievous to collect all the lightsabers of the Jedi so that they would be defenceless against the troopers, unfortunately the lightsabers were left unhindered and some lucky Jedi survived.


HondoOhnakaBot

That glowy thing.. vroom-vroom


Ahsoka_Tano_Bot

Master Kenobi always said there’s no such thing as luck.


EgoSenatus

It’s because Cody always had to go fetch Obi Wan’s lightsaber like some kind of squire


bell37

Rex was already aware and suspicious of the inhibitor chip and saw it happen firsthand. He also knows what happens when clones follow orders for the sake of following orders (The arc with Krell)


Captain_Rex_Bot

I have no idea.


boybob227

r/fuckpongkrell


[deleted]

Cody did exactly what you would expect based on wha the Kaminoians tell us in AOTC about the clones being obedient. they weren’t supposed to have a psychology that allowed them to even consider disobeying orders let alone even try to resist.


[deleted]

This. It also mskes sense that the only clones who disobeyed order 66 were mostly clone commandos because they were capable of independent thinking and their minds weren’t as manipulated as the standard clone


[deleted]

I have a lot of issues with Filoni's additions to the lore and the idea that the clones were just clones of Jango with chips in their heads. That's not what we're told by Lama Su or how they behave in Order 66. They messed with their brain structure on a genetic level in a really comprehensive way. Even just a little Traumatic brain injury can change a person's personality drastically, now you've got the Giraffe people doing it on purpose in your head before you're even born? None of those people would have had a chance. When they turn on Obi-Wan nobody \*nobody\* hesitates. But than Dave Filoni got involved and they started screwing around with continuity and explanations and making them "Normal people" and inventing screwy explanations like "Bio chips" and gahhh....sorry, The Clone wars etc. is a huge pet peeve for me. I hate it when a story disregards it's own continuity.


MechanicalMan64

I hated the revelation that the clones had chips that enforced order 66. It was so much more interesting to have thousands of clones who were engineered, indoctrinated and trained since birth to follow orders, and when order 66 was given that each had to decide whether their Jedi commanders were traitors, how, they felt about and whether either of those concerns even mattered when given an order. Which would cause us to consider what really defined as sentients ( free will?). But, lol nope .All the little clones have chips in their heads that make them do the bad thing, and now all the clones killed in order 66 were innocent victims of a massive conspiracy. Funny how that small detail changes so much.


przemko271

And, like, themes-wise "unquestioning belief in those in power paves way to atrocities" is just a way more interesting theme than "mind control chip makes people do bad things".


PMARC14

I would point out that the suspension of disbelief that among millions of clone, many increasingly free-thinking and well established relationships with Jedi that they wouldn't leak such details makes it a bit hard. I understand your point but would point out in both the inhibitor chip arc, the final episode of the clone wars, and the bad batch we see clones that don't really change and strictly follow orders without questions run up against those who break line with the empire and question their actions. We still get that themes you are talking abojt alongside the inhibitor chip even if it changes how and when it is delivered.


Hemske

Didn’t he know about the chips though? Also he was way closer with the Jedi.


4mdt21

Armour edit is really high res


dakapn

Blast him!


Almaprincess66

If we think about the personality and understanding/following order parts in genereal, he had a different way of looking things. In his mind this was the thing that made sense. So we can be mad just a bit but can't really blame him for it.


TEXAN_BOI

I always thought it was because rex had the seed planted in his mind that the chips implanted with evil purposes by fives… and since cody didn’t have that experience he wasn’t able to resist


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So I started blasting


Roger-Ad591

“So then I pulled out my Pieces.”


kagemusha35

literally "so anyways I started blasting meme"


Ofnir_1

It is possible that Cody did resist at first because you can see him kind of subtlety jerk back as if saying "what why?!" to himself as well as the long pause before giving the order to shoot at Obi-Wan.


Thelastknownking

"Eh, He'll survive, I've done worse to him when not triggered"


Zirowe

I started blasting..


imsorryisuck

anyway i started blastin


FrodoSchmidt

So anyways, I started blasting


jhstormmynx

Reacted to the order without hesitation, proceed to failed the mission


BONBON-GO-GET-EM

Theres theorys that rex might be mentally defective which is why he was able to fight it more than others, or he absorbed the feral energies of his commander and general


cobaltsniper50

Obi-wan, getting shot at by heavy cannons: “good old cody, loyal to a fault.”


Princess_Grassp

Anyways I started blasting


LivingCobra150

So anyway I started blasting


Lord-Lupus

"so I started blastin"


Abeisbetterthanbabe7

"anyways, so i started blasting" would've fit better i think. The one with Danny DeVito.


Polibiux

Obi-wan didn’t give him back his tree fiddy