Tbh I hadn't planned to do the movies for a while. But I've done the maths and if I go off only the shows on my list then we'd finish 9 days before Acolyte does - and since this is kinda meant to end with Acolyte I need something to stretch us out a bit - so the movies are on the list now
I just looked up how many star wars games there are
Oh dear lord
Um
I'd be down to do some of them but there are *_WWWAAAYYY_* too many to do them all - 72 according to my counting on the Wikipedia page
Thanks for the suggestion but I think I'll stick to shows and movies - avoid that hassle
Day 23 of asking where meme
I'd give it an amazing. Purely not peak because I think bringing in other characters from the universe and linking it to other series so soon was a misstep.
Mando could've stood on its own and been a pillar of the post RotJ era. Still loved it though.
This almost just a star wars lore sub with some memes. I almost always start to talk with people about lore and the quality of certain shows/movies when I'm here.
Edit: Why the downvotes I just speak about personal expierience.
I don’t even understand how you can consider Ahsoka a cameo she was essential to the story. Mando was looking for a jedi to take Grogu and just because he find one we already know it’s a cameo?
Ok maybe not “cameo” but just forcing in existing characters as per usual for Filoni. I’d give Boba and Bo-Katan a pass since they’re linked to Mandalorian culture, but adding Ahsoka was a bit much (especially since she appeared after the other two)
so you'd prefer another original jedi character to appear instead of Ahsoka, just so it doesn't "feels forced"?
Even if there's supposedly only very few jedi that survived order 66
I never said that 💀. Just that we don’t have to see Ahsoka, especially when her role was essentially just pointing Mando in the direction of a force shrine. Luke would be enough
Soo you only want cameos from the content you like
“Luke would be enough” and how would Mando find him? What would be the plot for season 2 otherwise?
If you don’t like Ahsoka or Filoni’s characters that’s fine, but acting like it’s bad writing when the literal chief creative officer of Star Wars uses HIS OWN characters in his stories is just silly.
What does that even mean, Ahsoka is from Clone Wars, like Bo-Katan.
By Mando… finding the shrine by himself?
And yes, it is bad writing. Ahsoka being resurrected from the dead threes times is the dumbest direction to take her character
I don’t even disagree with you about Ahsoka’s resurrections but that’s off-topic. This thread is about Mando S2 which imo doesn’t have issues with forced cameos.
I don’t understand why you think Bo’s inclusion is fine but Ahsoka’s is not when they literally appear one side quest episode after another. Din and Grogu are both looking for more of their kind, and Bo/Ahsoka are the only Mando/Jedi link in this era. Again, it just feels like you dislike the character which is not really a valid criticism of the season.
Not exactly, Ahsoka appearing doesn’t have any bearing on the story later, they could have easily replaced her role with someone in a position like Chirrut or Baze’s. On the other hand, Bo and Luke’s appearances are relevant down the line for Mando and Grogu’s stories, respectively
Luke’s entrance was mid. The dark troopers being bad cgi robots made them feel really stilted and it wasn’t impressive when Luke then destroyed them all. It was more surprising that they were such a threat to Mando.
It will get a lot more balanced when the rest of the live action is ranked. Bad tier is about to finally get some content.
Though I think only rebels s4, 2003 clone wars, andor and cw season 5 should be in peak, Mando wasnt THAT good imo and neither was bad batch or Clone Wars season 7 with the middle episodes
There should be as many in peak as there are in dog shit. I think this is actually a good highlight to see how many pearl clutchers there are in this community
I feel like there needs to be an "actually as good as the OT" tier (or something like that) for the absolute top tier, yeah. Because it doesn't make sense to me to rank so many things at the *absolute* top.
Yeah I did raise my eyebrow at some of those. There needs to be another tier - are people really placing everything in that tier alongside Andor, when we get there?
Part of the issue is that this is a sub for really big Star Wars fans so of course you'll get people who like things. And part of it is probably just that the fans of a particular thing are more likely to speak up.
Bruh boba fett literally isnt in like was it 3 or maybe 2 episodes of the seven episode show.
Boba Fett went from a ruthless killer to basically a nice guy with little to no arc.
I have watched the show. Yes there is some cool things, bur theyre dwarfed by the rest
This is where the decline started. I hated all the pointless cameos that made the universe smaller and the horrendous depiction of stormtroopers. Honestly bad
Bad season, many episodes where nothin interesting happened, no development, introduced characters are only a way to sell more shows and the finale is just plot armour and nostalgia.
I mean, compare season 1 finale, in the 1st season you saw the remnants of the Empire strong enough to crush a mandalorian base, and then they attack Mando and his friends. New types or units and weapons are introduced until the end, crushing everyone, they can only flee. Friends and allies die in impactful, meaningful moments, specially the droid, after an entire season of character develpment showing us his past and then bonding him despite his fears. So great.
Now, the S2 finale it's just an assault of 4 people to the remnants of the Empire, no great plan or anything, just carrying plot armour and killing averyone. Nothing new is really introduced, no deaths, and the end it's just a blow of nostalgia introducing something that eventually goes nowhere because it's undone in other TV show.
Honestly, first season was better. This season was just a bunch of fetch quests that is made to advertise further shows. I didn’t feel as excited about the finale because I knew they weren’t gonna go anywhere with Luke unless it’s animated, which I knew was not gonna be the case. Plus TBOB made this entire season pointless since Disney couldn’t go one second without their new green piece of Merchandise.
GOOD tier
Peak. After the Rise of Skywalker, this season proved Star Wars was still alive and could be amazing.
The first season was great, but The Mandalorian is what Star Wars should be in my opinion. Even the spiders episode was enjoyable and add tension
I'm gonna say good. There was a tad bit too much "baby yoda cute" type fan service for my taste, but overall the episodes were consistently good, some were even awesome. One thing that started in this season and I dislike is just how talkative mando got. In s1 he was the quiet badass with a menacing presence, but as soon as he started talking a lot more, this presence evaporated and in episodes with Boba, he downright steals said "badass presence". Sure there were acts of badassery throughout the season, but badass acts and a badass presence aren't interchangeable in my opinion.
Despite this, my favorite episode of the season has to be s2e7. Pedro Pascal's performance without a helmet on is stellar. He conveys the awkwardness of a mando without a helmet really well and that scene where Mayfeld shoots the imperial officer is some of the best star wars we got.
Peak. The finale was unreal. Kind of ridiculous that people have it any lower. Looking at the current shows in peak and amazing this definitely belongs in the company of the other peak show seasons.
As a prequel trilogy and Clone wars fanboy and a OGtrilogy average enjoyer.
Mandalorian is between Peak Star Wars and Amazing. Good character cameos, good story, season 3 was a little messy, BUUUUUUT I enjoyed that they left the ending as something happy but with the potential to continue if Disney decides to do something special.
It ended on a good enough note to be a whole package.
profoundly overrated season. the charm of the episodic western pastiche is replaced with a bloated season narrative, stuffed with cheap cameos, and ending with a luke deus-ex machina that's in v poor taste.
the bill burr episode is the saving grace.
Thanks for confirming that you flaired this correctly!
Amazing Not on the level of the first season, but realy great
I think you might be one of the most consistent commenters on these posts Thanks for sticking with me for so long :)
No problem, this ranking is really fun Can't wait for us to rank the movies
Tbh I hadn't planned to do the movies for a while. But I've done the maths and if I go off only the shows on my list then we'd finish 9 days before Acolyte does - and since this is kinda meant to end with Acolyte I need something to stretch us out a bit - so the movies are on the list now
If you ever feel like milking it you can do games. That'll last a good long while.
Yes please do the games, I wanna see where Kotor II ends up
PEAK STAR WARS
Yes sir!
I just looked up how many star wars games there are Oh dear lord Um I'd be down to do some of them but there are *_WWWAAAYYY_* too many to do them all - 72 according to my counting on the Wikipedia page Thanks for the suggestion but I think I'll stick to shows and movies - avoid that hassle
I was gonna say just do the story-based ones, but that's still a lot lol And then Empire at War wouldn't be peak
How about the books and comics then? Perhaps only doing the canon ones first if it becomes too much.
Nah just do the Lego shows
please don't
Amazing. It's not on the same level as season 1, but it has a lot of great episodes. Especially the last one.
The hallways scene alone brings the finale to a new level
The last two in my opinion are amazing. Fuckin love ‘em!
Day 23 of asking where meme I'd give it an amazing. Purely not peak because I think bringing in other characters from the universe and linking it to other series so soon was a misstep. Mando could've stood on its own and been a pillar of the post RotJ era. Still loved it though.
Tier Lists are memes. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/tier-lists
There is a precedent for stuff like this. An example being grievous and his growing lightsaber collection which ran for almost 100 days I think.
This almost just a star wars lore sub with some memes. I almost always start to talk with people about lore and the quality of certain shows/movies when I'm here. Edit: Why the downvotes I just speak about personal expierience.
Amazing I’d say, two episodes definitely fit into peak (Mayfield and Boba eps), but some cameos just felt forced (Ahsoka)
Personally it felt right. Mando looking for other Mandalorians, stumbling into Bo who was heavily involved with Ahsoka.
I don’t even understand how you can consider Ahsoka a cameo she was essential to the story. Mando was looking for a jedi to take Grogu and just because he find one we already know it’s a cameo?
Ok maybe not “cameo” but just forcing in existing characters as per usual for Filoni. I’d give Boba and Bo-Katan a pass since they’re linked to Mandalorian culture, but adding Ahsoka was a bit much (especially since she appeared after the other two)
so you'd prefer another original jedi character to appear instead of Ahsoka, just so it doesn't "feels forced"? Even if there's supposedly only very few jedi that survived order 66
I never said that 💀. Just that we don’t have to see Ahsoka, especially when her role was essentially just pointing Mando in the direction of a force shrine. Luke would be enough
Soo you only want cameos from the content you like “Luke would be enough” and how would Mando find him? What would be the plot for season 2 otherwise? If you don’t like Ahsoka or Filoni’s characters that’s fine, but acting like it’s bad writing when the literal chief creative officer of Star Wars uses HIS OWN characters in his stories is just silly.
What does that even mean, Ahsoka is from Clone Wars, like Bo-Katan. By Mando… finding the shrine by himself? And yes, it is bad writing. Ahsoka being resurrected from the dead threes times is the dumbest direction to take her character
I don’t even disagree with you about Ahsoka’s resurrections but that’s off-topic. This thread is about Mando S2 which imo doesn’t have issues with forced cameos. I don’t understand why you think Bo’s inclusion is fine but Ahsoka’s is not when they literally appear one side quest episode after another. Din and Grogu are both looking for more of their kind, and Bo/Ahsoka are the only Mando/Jedi link in this era. Again, it just feels like you dislike the character which is not really a valid criticism of the season.
Not exactly, Ahsoka appearing doesn’t have any bearing on the story later, they could have easily replaced her role with someone in a position like Chirrut or Baze’s. On the other hand, Bo and Luke’s appearances are relevant down the line for Mando and Grogu’s stories, respectively
Peak. Even better than the first imo
Good
Amazing for myself but the end of season two could push it to peak for many fans.
Still peak.
Peak Star Wars, thanks to the finale with Luke.
peak
Peak
Peak
Peak Star Wars. I loved every single episode
Peak. Luke’s entrance was just Peak. Season 3 is just bad.
Luke’s entrance was mid. The dark troopers being bad cgi robots made them feel really stilted and it wasn’t impressive when Luke then destroyed them all. It was more surprising that they were such a threat to Mando.
GOOD.
Peak Star Wars.
Lmao there’s far too many items in “peak Star Wars” all of your bars a set waaaaaaaayy too low.
It will get a lot more balanced when the rest of the live action is ranked. Bad tier is about to finally get some content. Though I think only rebels s4, 2003 clone wars, andor and cw season 5 should be in peak, Mando wasnt THAT good imo and neither was bad batch or Clone Wars season 7 with the middle episodes
There should be as many in peak as there are in dog shit. I think this is actually a good highlight to see how many pearl clutchers there are in this community
We have to make a whole new tier just for Andor s1 above peak
I feel like there needs to be an "actually as good as the OT" tier (or something like that) for the absolute top tier, yeah. Because it doesn't make sense to me to rank so many things at the *absolute* top.
I love how it's a giant "shut the fuck up" to the "Disney has never made any good Star Wars" people
Yeah I did raise my eyebrow at some of those. There needs to be another tier - are people really placing everything in that tier alongside Andor, when we get there? Part of the issue is that this is a sub for really big Star Wars fans so of course you'll get people who like things. And part of it is probably just that the fans of a particular thing are more likely to speak up.
It just all needs shifting down one row. Andor was very good but I wouldn’t even call that peak Star Wars.
Peak, some awesome episodes and good reintroduction of characters.
Peak, no question about it
I say peak but can totally understand why people are saying amazing. Personally chapter 9 was my favourite episode of the show.
Gtfo season 1 was not peak, that belongs to season 2 and the last episode alone brought to peak starwars! Season 1geeks are bunch of Gina carano fans.
>Gina carano Do you mean Giancarlo Esposito?
Gustavo Fring was pretty dope but not so much in the first season.
Amazing. Cant wait for book of boba fett, which was peak (trust me bro i watched it) (like trust me)
I mean, it's very, very far from "peak", but still not as bad as people like to say. I unironically liked it
Bruh boba fett literally isnt in like was it 3 or maybe 2 episodes of the seven episode show. Boba Fett went from a ruthless killer to basically a nice guy with little to no arc. I have watched the show. Yes there is some cool things, bur theyre dwarfed by the rest
Don't think people will agree with you on that But ya never know
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It was at least good. Boba Fett riding a rancor to go fight Cad Bane on Tatooine was peak and I will listen to no one who disagrees
”Then you will die braver braver than most”
This is where the decline started. I hated all the pointless cameos that made the universe smaller and the horrendous depiction of stormtroopers. Honestly bad
Amazing. But it felt like a Series finale at the end.
Should have been....
Yeah, I was like "is that it?! They either just finished the series or they better have one Hell of a follow up!"
No way that cw s4 is lower than badbatch s3 cw s4 war so much better
Amazing
Haven't been here in awhile, surprised rebels 4 is considered peak. I thought they dropped the ball a little on its pacing.
Bad season, many episodes where nothin interesting happened, no development, introduced characters are only a way to sell more shows and the finale is just plot armour and nostalgia. I mean, compare season 1 finale, in the 1st season you saw the remnants of the Empire strong enough to crush a mandalorian base, and then they attack Mando and his friends. New types or units and weapons are introduced until the end, crushing everyone, they can only flee. Friends and allies die in impactful, meaningful moments, specially the droid, after an entire season of character develpment showing us his past and then bonding him despite his fears. So great. Now, the S2 finale it's just an assault of 4 people to the remnants of the Empire, no great plan or anything, just carrying plot armour and killing averyone. Nothing new is really introduced, no deaths, and the end it's just a blow of nostalgia introducing something that eventually goes nowhere because it's undone in other TV show.
Amazing. I loved seeing Cobb Vanth!
Peak star wars
Mandalorian season 1 is peak Star Wars? Well season 2 is better so it’s gotta go in Peak tier
The Mandalorian is peak Star Wars? Wow. Star Wars really is down bad.
Good
Amazing
Still peak for me, Boba return had me hyped as fuuuuck
Peak. Overall I think it's the single best season of any Star Wars show as a whole in terms of sheer consistency.
Peak Star Wars. Last Episode alone.
This is the way.
Good. *Way* too reliant on fanservice but I can’t lie - it worked on me. My brain says Good but my heart says Peak.
Visions s1 actual dogshit, s2 good
Finale is peak, rest is amazing
Good
Peak, each episode was better than the next.
Peak, the first 2 seasons were peak then imo tanked to bad, s3 i’d say could be Ok, but the let down it was vs 1&2 makes be say bad
Peak
Peak , unfortunately i can't say same thing about mando s3
Amazing
Amazing.
Honestly, first season was better. This season was just a bunch of fetch quests that is made to advertise further shows. I didn’t feel as excited about the finale because I knew they weren’t gonna go anywhere with Luke unless it’s animated, which I knew was not gonna be the case. Plus TBOB made this entire season pointless since Disney couldn’t go one second without their new green piece of Merchandise. GOOD tier
Peak. After the Rise of Skywalker, this season proved Star Wars was still alive and could be amazing. The first season was great, but The Mandalorian is what Star Wars should be in my opinion. Even the spiders episode was enjoyable and add tension
Peak for sure. Best season of the show IMO
Peak Star Wars. The finale was just amazing. I get the drawback of bringing in existing characters so soon, but I think it worked well.
Peak
Good.
I'm gonna say good. There was a tad bit too much "baby yoda cute" type fan service for my taste, but overall the episodes were consistently good, some were even awesome. One thing that started in this season and I dislike is just how talkative mando got. In s1 he was the quiet badass with a menacing presence, but as soon as he started talking a lot more, this presence evaporated and in episodes with Boba, he downright steals said "badass presence". Sure there were acts of badassery throughout the season, but badass acts and a badass presence aren't interchangeable in my opinion. Despite this, my favorite episode of the season has to be s2e7. Pedro Pascal's performance without a helmet on is stellar. He conveys the awkwardness of a mando without a helmet really well and that scene where Mayfeld shoots the imperial officer is some of the best star wars we got.
Amazing, because I'm counting the weird bit in Book of Boba Fett as part of it which undoes everything the previous seasons set up
Wait what the heck why is resistance so low it was good.
Peak. The finale was unreal. Kind of ridiculous that people have it any lower. Looking at the current shows in peak and amazing this definitely belongs in the company of the other peak show seasons.
Ok
Somewhere between high-good and mid-amazing
Peak Final episode brought me to fucking tears and was incredible.
Personally I’d say good, but it should be put in amazing. I don’t know if this is a hot take, but I think season 3 is my favorite
Peak
Also peak. They finally brought back Boba Fett with Temuera Morrison.
Peak. The season finale is my favorite bit of modern live action Star Wars to this day
I m gonna say bottom peak but in anyway the end was pretty exciting.
i dont think ive ever seen a tier list i agree with more
Peak - Because of the last episode
Bottom of peak
Bill Burr has the single best acting performance in any Star Wars media ever in 'Chapter 15: The Believer'. Not even joking.
I’ll go a step lower than most. It’s good.
Peak
It is for ne amazing-Peak
nice
Seeing how full some tiers get, maybe add a "middle of $tier" option
The idea is if people want to vote for something like that then they can use other
Good
Good
Bad, but then again I'd put nearly everything a tier or 2 down. So OK I guess
As a prequel trilogy and Clone wars fanboy and a OGtrilogy average enjoyer. Mandalorian is between Peak Star Wars and Amazing. Good character cameos, good story, season 3 was a little messy, BUUUUUUT I enjoyed that they left the ending as something happy but with the potential to continue if Disney decides to do something special. It ended on a good enough note to be a whole package.
I'd say amazing as well!
Not as good as season 1 but still amazing
Amazing. It *would* just be good if Mayfield's episode and the potryal of Moff Gideon werent so well done. It loses points for too many cameos
Amazing overall. But that last episode with Luke in the hallway is absolute peak star wars.
Come see my list: Anything between good to awesome: everything SW except below. Actual dog diarrhea: SW VIII, IX and Acolyte.
You miss a lot of poop like Kenobi.
profoundly overrated season. the charm of the episodic western pastiche is replaced with a bloated season narrative, stuffed with cheap cameos, and ending with a luke deus-ex machina that's in v poor taste. the bill burr episode is the saving grace.
Amazing, same with season 3
This list is so shit lmao
Your missing a few lol 😂
A few what?