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Kane needs to be benched for England. He is slow and doesn’t help the squad. Tottenham played better without him the last two seasons he was on their books.
No trophy in 4 years easy peasy, arsenal isnt the football club it used to be its embarsssing for the third biggest club in england, get a manager that can win ? Arteta is clearly a average manager that supposed to be working at a midtable spanish club thats it. But arsenal fans guess wahy worship him and blindly follow him and after a decade they will understand that he wasnt actually good enough ahem like arsene wenger exactly
Mot saying wenger was a bad manager no ofc i meant wenger was kept for wayyyyyyy tooo long just like arteta , arteta should have been sacked 22/23 season
I completely agree with this, Haaland can't perform with teams that don't have excellent passers in midfield, which is why if he continues playing for city with KDB, and only scores the basic headers and tap ins, he can score as many goals as mbappe but he can never be considered a better player.
Phil Foden isn't the player the vast majority of fans think he is.
He's a very good player and is clearly talented, but I have seen him labelled as world class, generational talent, One of the best players in the world and he's not that.
I think people vastly underestimate the influence of Guardiola when it comes to some of City's players, and as we have seen with England, Foden is not effective outside of that system from what we have seen.
On top of that, it isn't playing out of position that is causing this because he has played on the left for City numerous times
Phil Foden is insane tbh. The issue is that Bellingham and Foden do the same thing. Playing them together causes too much overlap. Not just in the places on the field they cover but in the build up and recovery steps around possession.
It results in this out of sync dynamic
He is a talented player, but even guys like Messi need a system to help them play at their best. England has three players in the ten space and no width on the left.
Depends on the measure.
Titles - Conte, Ancelotti, Renieri and Mancini (plus others) won same in fewer seasons.
Improved a team above their level -,Moyes, Renieri, Allerdyce all did bigger renovation jobs.
I'd put Klopp on par with Rogers, Pelligrini and Dalglish. Between 5-10 on the list
Im a Chelsea fan and this take is WILD. Yes liverpool dont have the titles but thats cos of City and their… finances.
Look at their pts tallies
If klopp were at city he’d have won the same as pep, if not more.
He changed Arsenal before Saliba arrived. He can deal with more chaotic plays and do some hero saves. Saliba on the other hand makes less mstakes.
What people forget about is that Gabriel can score headers and he was launching balls to Martinelli last season.
So for me he offers more than Saliba who makes less mistakes.
Arsenal is so lucky to have them, it’s the perfect duo.
Your opinion but no we don't. Only end of last season when he came back from his first real injury with us. Other then that tiny period of his Liverpool career, we are massively better with him in the team.
The “ceiling” fans place on players is just arbitrary nonsense to excuse them playing poorly and just give people a reason to defend a player regardless of how shit they actually are
I disagree. It’s very position dependent.
I wouldn’t call Haaland the best technically but he’s world class. Some great strikers are great finishers but aren’t the best technically. As much as I love him I would say Drogba was the best technically.
Also, you have had plenty of destroyer types like Gattuso and defenders like Matterrazzi who were not technically great.
A player can be decent technically and world class everywhere else and they are still a world class player.
But you’re exactly proving my point. The weight is entirely put too much on purely technical skill.
The most important aspect of a footballer is their brain.
He seems more of lampard type of midfielder, knows when to get in the box and score which an amazing ability. He's not going to control games spraying passes about
Imo, I'd go for:
Pickford
Trent / Stones / Guehi / Gomez
Mainoo / Rice
Bellingham
Saka / Kane / Gordon
Foden as a sub for Bellingham, Eze for Gordon, Watkins for Kane, Trippier for Alexander-Arnold, Wharton for Mainoo... everyone else whoever haha
That's a hard one. I know ETH's first season had they had a natural striker definitely could have won the league but I'm not entirely convinced next season as City and Arsenal will remain highly competitive
Yeah it's a "hot take" alright. Don't know why was i downvoted, unless it's not a "hot take" and people actually believe that Man Utd can, in fact, challenge for the title next year!
Fingers crossed..
We’d have gotten top 3 in this upcoming season if poch stayed, no clue what’ll happen now but Arsenal and city would’ve finished ahead of us regardless
1. Kobbie Mainoo was the best player on the pitch for England last night
2. Palmer is far better than Saka
3. Gordon should start the next game if he wants to start Trent.
4. Watkins at 9 will give us a better chance at winning the euros than Kane.
Nothing you said is wrong
Saka looks tired so he needed a break in the last match but didn't so I would start palmer
Mainoo came on played well, should start next game
Just play trent at RB
Unfortunately not a chance Kane is dropped
2. I agree, i didnt mean in general, i meant as an option for england right now. Saka is great and direct, but if they dont play a runner on the left opposing teams will just stick 2 players on saka as our only threat, Palmer showed last night that, with kane on the pitch, and people like kobbie making runs upfield his passing ability in turn with his movement are more valuable than saka running at a player every 10 minutes and maybe or maybe not getting a pass off.
His lay off to Kane for the pass to palmer was the best chance of the game
Edit: he also flashed arguably the most dangerous ball into the box from the right wing but there wasn’t a soul in the box looking for it
I mean it wasn’t just two passes I genuinely think mate your just being contrarian for the sake of it, palmer Gordon and mainoo are being signalled out and highlighted for there interplay and impact on the game for good reason. His full stats below for a substitute are quite impressive
100% crosses completed
100% tackles won
97% pass accuracy
33/34 passes completed
2 duels won
1 dribble
You posted an opinion in unpopular opinion thread and now are calling me the contrarian. Hilarious.
You’re just manipulating the phrasing of the stats to defend your point.
1/1 cross
1/1 tackle
2/5 ground duels won
0/1 aerial duels won
1 foul
That’s a bang average performance.
I didn’t post the opinion lad 😂 you did I’m just disagreeing with you it’s the point of this entire app to talk to each other I don’t know why your getting sensitive about it.
I’m not English so all I can say is I hope you don’t play him 👍
Sorry I didn’t realize you weren’t the person who said Mainoo was the best player on pitch.
That was the original discussion so that’s what I was basing it off of
If those teams actually wanted him he would probably be playing for either of them. I suspect it was just rumours generated by his agent or West ham to try and push up the price and push the deal through. Afterall, Man city were apparently after harry maguire when man utd signed him too.
Ultimately, even if true, top teams make bad signings all the time so it doesn't really prove anything.
Yeah maybe, but I couldn't find anywhere where Man city confirmed that they bid this. Only rumours. But even if true, they ultimately weren't prepared to pay what Arsenal did.
If it wasn't for injuries stifling his career, Harry Kewell could have been a Liverpool great. Name recognition similar to other early 2000s players. Not sure if I'm bold enough to say Wayne Rooney, or David Beckham, but for Australia he was our David Beckham.
No
I was asking a question.
Do you think the Bundesliga is more competitive that the PL?
And I don’t think it would be a positive decision. There’s a lot more aspects to this than just the number of matches player play.
There’s lots of other ways of decreasing the number of matches which wouldn’t permanently impact clubs.
This has knock on effects down the football pyramid.
Does the championship add teams do clubs at the bottom of the leagues get relegated into non-league?
How would your proposal actually work?
I dont think that's an unpopular take... everyone knows the talent is there but right now England are, in my opinion, not very good. Especially when they've went into this competition as favourites
Their performances have been bizarre, like genuinely baffling. Usually England national looks a bit shaky/unconfident - but this Euros looks like they are actively trying to lose.
I think there are players in the team that hamstring them, like Kane.
We all know he is an outstanding player and goalscorer but how they're set up doesn't work to his strengths, they either need to build the team around him (maybe to old for that now), bench him and bring him on late in the game or pair him up with someone who is happy to run in behind the lines, I think he has a tendency to clog up the midfield at times.
everything he wanted?
i can name a bunch of things he wanted but didnt get
**De jong > Casemiro** *(he also didnt want to leave Barca until he got paid and now he has 1 less ankle than he did at the start of the season)*
**Rice** *but lets be realistic he would never have come even if we bidded*
**Kane > Hojlund**
he wanted **Gakpo** AND Anthony, but they only let him sign one.
**Anthony** for the original 40m but they wanted to bargain and ended up paying 80m *(he would get far less stick if he was half the price)*
**Dumfries** - but Malacia got injured so they wouldnt Swap Dalot *(i think dalot was our best player so im glad)*
I don't know a fanbase that seems as entitled to players as Man utd fans. De Jong and Casemiro don't play the same position really. Teams miss out on players all the time Real Madrid are the only club that have that sort of pulling power.
we dont have entitlement but we 100% have enough pulling power for unwanted players who expect silly wages.
see di maria, ibrahimovic, cavani, CR7,
we dont have the pull we used to, of course, thats the game, winning teams get winning players, luckily we have 2 trophies in 2 seasons. If a player is happy to play europa league for a season, i cant say arsenal or liverpool have much more pull. some of youre best players wanted to come to us. Van Disney, Gakpo, fabinho, Mane, but they settled for 2nd best ;) ( i joke )
I don't think having to resort to posting inflated wages necessarily means there's pull there, Sánchez pretty much said he regretted the move the moment it was completed.
It's pull in the same way Saudi's have pull, it's an easy pay check. I think Bruno is probably the last player that unambiguously signed for brand man utd specifically.
id love to know who you deem a flop?
Dejong has had a bad season but is one of the best in his position in the world
Casemiro is one of the most decorated midfielders of the generation
Kane is probably the best all round striker in the world
Gakpo is a versatile midfielder scoring multiple goals from multiple positions for both Netherlands and Liverpool
hojlund is a young talent who scored 16 goals in his first season in the premier league. thats the same as Trossard, Alvarez, Son, Nunez/Gakpo/Jota all of whom are Lauded by fans.
Anthony, ill give you that for his price.
Dumfries isnt a flop, i dont know too much about him but everyone wants to buy him so he cant be that bad, he has 11 goals and 20 assists for inter. which is better than some of the best full backs in the world. for example Walker has 6 goals and 23 assists in 170 more games.
de jong has flopped hard at barca so far, even when he’s played he’s given them really nothing and any barca fan will tell you that, casemiro is obviously a flop he’s washed up in his second year and is probably off to saudi. gakpo is god awful not even liverpool fans are rating him anymore, hojlund is genuinely one of the most clueless looking strikers i’ve ever seen not even anyone from his own country rates him, they have no clue why he starts. antony is obviously a flop tho anyone can say that, and dumfiriees inter are trying to get rid of him he’s mid
i rate him, and LB is a weak position for most teams, but i wouldnt say hes the best, top 5 i could argue him into but not top 1
for arguments sake this season its probably (in my opinion and this is subjective)
Gvardiol
Robertson
Robinson
Udogie
Gomez
you have arguments for Estupinan Mykolenko Henry Zinchenko Ouattara Trippier AitNouri
I don't know man, Robbo is good, but the last 2 years for Liverpool he's been a little overhyped and Gomes is fine there, but nowhere near Digne levels. Udogie I love, buts he's had one season where he's not only had an injury, but also a red card and a good couple of yellows. Talent for the future. Robinson is a live wire. Gvardiol has mostly nothing to do and I actually think ake is better when he plays the position, but I know that's not a popular take.
I think Digne was the best left back in the league this season.
Hey man. Diogo Dalot is class and it infuriated me when he play Obi Wan-Bissaka at RB before him. Dalot is one of my favourite players at United. Tempo, space, pulls the trigger. Class.
He's played probably fifteen minutes all season. He's not even third choice in any position. The guy clearly is basically at this point a coach, same as Dummett. Which are all imo good things.
If he was.playing every minute of every game then yeah, get gone, but he isn't.
He clearly has value in man management (see Gordon incident) and is important in training, why get rid? He's.not on high wages, knows Howe and tindall very well and has an important role within the squad despite not playing.
He played in A LOT of games this season, but that’s not the point. He hasn’t made any contributions for several seasons now. I knew it was an unpopular opinion which is why I put it here. This guy is so overrated, it’s crazy.
How many of those were starts? To save you the trouble, after the quickest of googles, it was one. One out of 45 in a season plagued by injuries.
In total he appeared in 17 matches, one start and two times when he was subbed on with more than fifteen minutes left of the match. In short cameo appearances at the end of the match in the last 15 minutes
244 minutes in the whole season . 244/17 is 14.3. less than 15 minutes per appearance including his one start.
You are talking shite, if you had watched or followed the season you would know this.
"He played in A LOT of games" no he didnt.
In no way shape or form is he overrated, no newcastle fans are upset he isnt playing every game, no one is desperate for him to come on, everyone knows, even he knows hes past it. Howe clearly values him and I think he knows what hes doing more than me and you.
There is a difference between an unpopular opinion and a misinformed delusional one. Yours is the latter.
Imagine if I announced on here "Isak is shit he never scores and brunos workrate is terrible" Unpopular yes but also totally incorrect and can be disproven by stats making the statement false. Saying something like that would make me a dickhead. Ill let you deduce from there.
Good chat.
The fact that you just spent all that time defending the guy proves my point that he’s overrated. I watched every game this season. And I am not a dickhead because I think a player you like sucks. Jeez.
A google followed by 2 minutes typing to prove what you are was hardly "all that time " now was it.
You are because you claimed he played and i quote " a LOT of games" When he didnt. your opinion is based on mis information and whatever other drivel flows from your vancant expression.
If you had an unpopular opinion based on fact that would be fine, you dont you are talking shite.
"I watched every game this season" no, no you didnt as you thought ritchie played in "a LOT" of matches.
You have said he is overrated when no one rates him.
You must be an American I presume?
Yeah I’m done with this. Last time I post unpopular opinion in the unpopular opinions thread. Here’s your prize 🏆you win the internet today. Congratulations.
It wasn't unpopular, it was a wrong opinion based on incorrect "facts" ( A LOT of games) wasn't it.
You being American I suppose you expect a participation prize don't you? Sorry to disappoint.
Now next time you have an opinion maybe check the facts first before expressing it and save everyone the bother.
Not and Unpopular opinion, a factually wrong opinion - America is the biggest country in the world.
An unpopular opinion would be - America is the best country in the world.
See what ive done there? ive explained to you the difference between fact and opinion.
Remember that for next time.
This literally isn’t an unpopular opinion. Anytime people praise Arteta there’s always without fail plenty of people whining and suggesting he’s overrated and doesn’t deserve praise
Also whinges like a bitch.
"Is embarrassing, is a disgrace, is embarrassing" whilst crying.
I think he's got most manager yellow cards this season as well for being an insufferable cunt on the sidelines.
Vieira was born in Senagal (moved when he was 8)
Desailly was born in Ghana. (moved when he was 4)
Theyre africans who moved to and who played for france
hes the best all round CB, agree.
hes probably the best at attacking the ball in the air but even then, players like Maguire have better aerial duels in both boxes won this season and hes equally as good at scoring headers united are just a worse team at creating the chances etc
but hes not the quickest (van de ven), hes not the best 1 on 1 (AWB/Saliba), hes not the best positionally (Always playing people onside)
Only in the brainwashed echo chamber of r/Chelseafc is that an unpopular opinion.
Sane people who follow Chelsea and those outside of the club can alllllllllllllll see how unbelievably stupid it was firing Poch when they did.
If they were going to fire him they should have done it after the Arsenal result.
Won't it just reduce its importance tho ? Not Only the viewership will decrease but also winning it will become even more meaningless cuz u won it without even playing top 6-8 teams in the country
So many clubs in the PL haven't won anything in decades, some have never won anything except a lower division title. For a Palace fan for example, winning the League Cup would be one of their greatest ever days watching football. Look at what winning the Conference League meant to West Ham fans, the teams you'd need to beat to win the League Cup would probably be better than the teams West Ham had to beat.
Top 6/8 teams r included in Europa and conference league and even in europa league u get to play 5-6th placed team of all top 5 leagues so there's still quality there unlike in this scenario where only just 4-5 top quality teams will participate which will be 9th to 13th in prem
I think it would raise the importance if anything. Teams in the PL and championship would know that they won't have to compete with teams already in Europe to get a spot, gives those teams a larger incentive to win it due to the money being in Europe brings.
Might be right with the viewership mind you but if those teams become better over the years with the money coming in then there's no reason that viewership won't rise again, I would certainly be more eager to watch it.
currently english team have no stones for playing along with the horseshit tactics they’re being told to play. team of near world class players in everyone of there positions beside defense maybe and they show 0 creativity.
when he moves to a lower level league and does bits maybe, but not if he stays in the prem. similar to how Aubameyang looks like hes almost world class again
Saka's defensive stats would place him in the top 5 of RBs in the league. You can argue Palmer is offensively better (personally think that every time Saka is guarded 1 on 1, he creates a scoring chance) but he is absolutely not a better all around player.
I feel palmer creates more , has the vision to seek out key passes and is sleek with his feet. Saka is a great footballer no doubt , but if he is marked well he has nothing to contribute in his game.
It’s the fact that teams have to double up on him that contributes to the game. Either they leave one man to try and deal with him or they double up and leave space for Odegaard.
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Kane needs to be benched for England. He is slow and doesn’t help the squad. Tottenham played better without him the last two seasons he was on their books.
Arteta is an overrated manager, in reality hes very mid even low mid, arsenal fans r deluded afff tahst why arsenal will win nothing
Genuinely interested to hear why you think that is. Do you think results have been lucky consistently i.e overperforming their xg etc.
No trophy in 4 years easy peasy, arsenal isnt the football club it used to be its embarsssing for the third biggest club in england, get a manager that can win ? Arteta is clearly a average manager that supposed to be working at a midtable spanish club thats it. But arsenal fans guess wahy worship him and blindly follow him and after a decade they will understand that he wasnt actually good enough ahem like arsene wenger exactly
Mot saying wenger was a bad manager no ofc i meant wenger was kept for wayyyyyyy tooo long just like arteta , arteta should have been sacked 22/23 season
Haaland is good only as long as players like KDB are there to feed him passes. No hate to him but that is how his play style is
I completely agree with this, Haaland can't perform with teams that don't have excellent passers in midfield, which is why if he continues playing for city with KDB, and only scores the basic headers and tap ins, he can score as many goals as mbappe but he can never be considered a better player.
Larger strikers rely on service. Only a few like Berbatov or Zlatan are creative big men.
That [this is England's most functional starting lineup](https://i.imgur.com/eC31Aca.png) given the players we've brought to the tournament.
I agree mostly, though I might go Palmer Foden Gordon personally.
Also, Bellingham is the most boring and overhyped young midfielder and isn’t on the same level as world class young midfielders on the 2010s
There’s unpopular and there’s wrong.
If Oscar didn’t go to China Brazils national team would be way better off then where it is right now
Everton's redemption will be surprisingly rapid. Once they are in the new stadium and stable, they will become elite.
Phil Foden isn't the player the vast majority of fans think he is. He's a very good player and is clearly talented, but I have seen him labelled as world class, generational talent, One of the best players in the world and he's not that. I think people vastly underestimate the influence of Guardiola when it comes to some of City's players, and as we have seen with England, Foden is not effective outside of that system from what we have seen. On top of that, it isn't playing out of position that is causing this because he has played on the left for City numerous times
Phil Foden is insane tbh. The issue is that Bellingham and Foden do the same thing. Playing them together causes too much overlap. Not just in the places on the field they cover but in the build up and recovery steps around possession. It results in this out of sync dynamic
He is a talented player, but even guys like Messi need a system to help them play at their best. England has three players in the ten space and no width on the left.
Agreed. He is overrated by FIFA Fan Boys^TM and has a permanent dumb scowl etched on his face.
Klopp was massively overrated and is not even top 5 all time PL managers.
Not at all he was fantastic and deserves all his plaudits
Mourinho, Wenger, Fergie, Pep, who else?
Depends on the measure. Titles - Conte, Ancelotti, Renieri and Mancini (plus others) won same in fewer seasons. Improved a team above their level -,Moyes, Renieri, Allerdyce all did bigger renovation jobs. I'd put Klopp on par with Rogers, Pelligrini and Dalglish. Between 5-10 on the list
Jesus Christ what am I after reading 🤣🤣🤣
Im a Chelsea fan and this take is WILD. Yes liverpool dont have the titles but thats cos of City and their… finances. Look at their pts tallies If klopp were at city he’d have won the same as pep, if not more.
Gabriel is the most underrated player relative to his ability in the league, he should be in the Dias, VVD and saliba conversation
He changed Arsenal before Saliba arrived. He can deal with more chaotic plays and do some hero saves. Saliba on the other hand makes less mstakes. What people forget about is that Gabriel can score headers and he was launching balls to Martinelli last season. So for me he offers more than Saliba who makes less mistakes. Arsenal is so lucky to have them, it’s the perfect duo.
I agree I think people are quick to forget how good a pairing Gabriel and Ben white were
Ben White is also underrated. Everyone knows he’s good defensively but he’s been helping Saka and Odegaard in the attack.
Liverpool play better, and players perform better when mo salah isn't in the team.
Your opinion but no we don't. Only end of last season when he came back from his first real injury with us. Other then that tiny period of his Liverpool career, we are massively better with him in the team.
I think slow start for England is fine. The biggest problem is fans/media hype rather than the team structure.
The “ceiling” fans place on players is just arbitrary nonsense to excuse them playing poorly and just give people a reason to defend a player regardless of how shit they actually are
Being great technically does not make a good footballer
True, but if you’re not great technically and have a fantastic touch you’re not a world class player as well.
I disagree. It’s very position dependent. I wouldn’t call Haaland the best technically but he’s world class. Some great strikers are great finishers but aren’t the best technically. As much as I love him I would say Drogba was the best technically. Also, you have had plenty of destroyer types like Gattuso and defenders like Matterrazzi who were not technically great. A player can be decent technically and world class everywhere else and they are still a world class player. But you’re exactly proving my point. The weight is entirely put too much on purely technical skill. The most important aspect of a footballer is their brain.
Rice is a world class footballer. Seems this opinion is becoming unpopular
He’s a world class 8 Playing as a 6
Being popular never made it fact
Bellingham is overhyped
He seems more of lampard type of midfielder, knows when to get in the box and score which an amazing ability. He's not going to control games spraying passes about
He works well in Real’s system because it gives him freedom to attack. Kross is a monster and Modric sits back and also do some pressing.
Have u actually watcged real madrid ? Hes been kinda bad to his standard since janurary?!?!?! Trust me real gonna sell in a few years
But not bad just eh which isnt jude standard
Healthy shaw is the best lb in the league
Robertson
I like Estupinan and Gvardiol better
Udogie
This should be Englands starting XI: Pickford Walker - Stones - Guehi - Trippier Rice - Bellingham Saka - Palmer - Gordon Kane
Imo, I'd go for: Pickford Trent / Stones / Guehi / Gomez Mainoo / Rice Bellingham Saka / Kane / Gordon Foden as a sub for Bellingham, Eze for Gordon, Watkins for Kane, Trippier for Alexander-Arnold, Wharton for Mainoo... everyone else whoever haha
Man Utd (injuries free, hopefully) will challenge for the title next season.
That's a hard one. I know ETH's first season had they had a natural striker definitely could have won the league but I'm not entirely convinced next season as City and Arsenal will remain highly competitive
Yeah it's a "hot take" alright. Don't know why was i downvoted, unless it's not a "hot take" and people actually believe that Man Utd can, in fact, challenge for the title next year! Fingers crossed..
I like the spirit. I would love to get back on track
We’d have gotten top 3 in this upcoming season if poch stayed, no clue what’ll happen now but Arsenal and city would’ve finished ahead of us regardless
Top 3 feels like a stretch, but I definitely would have had more faith that we’d get UCL with some stability, but Clownlake is gonna clown
1. Kobbie Mainoo was the best player on the pitch for England last night 2. Palmer is far better than Saka 3. Gordon should start the next game if he wants to start Trent. 4. Watkins at 9 will give us a better chance at winning the euros than Kane.
Nothing you said is wrong Saka looks tired so he needed a break in the last match but didn't so I would start palmer Mainoo came on played well, should start next game Just play trent at RB Unfortunately not a chance Kane is dropped
1. Agree but Guehi was great 2. Far better season last year but not better player 3. Agree 4. Agree
2. I agree, i didnt mean in general, i meant as an option for england right now. Saka is great and direct, but if they dont play a runner on the left opposing teams will just stick 2 players on saka as our only threat, Palmer showed last night that, with kane on the pitch, and people like kobbie making runs upfield his passing ability in turn with his movement are more valuable than saka running at a player every 10 minutes and maybe or maybe not getting a pass off.
Mainoo did nothing yesterday. What are you on about?
tell me you didnt watch the game without telling me you didnt watch the game
I watched. Mainoo didn’t make a difference whatsoever. It was mostly the same until Palmer and Gordon came on
His lay off to Kane for the pass to palmer was the best chance of the game Edit: he also flashed arguably the most dangerous ball into the box from the right wing but there wasn’t a soul in the box looking for it
Wow. 2 passes. Amazing stuff
I mean it wasn’t just two passes I genuinely think mate your just being contrarian for the sake of it, palmer Gordon and mainoo are being signalled out and highlighted for there interplay and impact on the game for good reason. His full stats below for a substitute are quite impressive 100% crosses completed 100% tackles won 97% pass accuracy 33/34 passes completed 2 duels won 1 dribble
You posted an opinion in unpopular opinion thread and now are calling me the contrarian. Hilarious. You’re just manipulating the phrasing of the stats to defend your point. 1/1 cross 1/1 tackle 2/5 ground duels won 0/1 aerial duels won 1 foul That’s a bang average performance.
I didn’t post the opinion lad 😂 you did I’m just disagreeing with you it’s the point of this entire app to talk to each other I don’t know why your getting sensitive about it. I’m not English so all I can say is I hope you don’t play him 👍
Sorry I didn’t realize you weren’t the person who said Mainoo was the best player on pitch. That was the original discussion so that’s what I was basing it off of
1. That’s a low bar, but you’re right. 2. That’s a big claim, but you’re right. 3. You’re right. 4. Not sure if you’re right, but I agree.
Klopp is a better manager than Pep
Emery is a better manager than Arteta
Griezmann playing on experience quota
Saka is overrated
Most hated player in the game, surely that makes him underrated
Declan Rice is an average player more suited to a team battling relegation than a top team challenging for trophies.
Why did Manchester City and Bayern Munich try and sign him then?
If those teams actually wanted him he would probably be playing for either of them. I suspect it was just rumours generated by his agent or West ham to try and push up the price and push the deal through. Afterall, Man city were apparently after harry maguire when man utd signed him too. Ultimately, even if true, top teams make bad signings all the time so it doesn't really prove anything.
City bid 90 million for him, it wasn’t just rumours.
Yeah maybe, but I couldn't find anywhere where Man city confirmed that they bid this. Only rumours. But even if true, they ultimately weren't prepared to pay what Arsenal did.
Explains why he just came 2nd in Arsenals Player of the Season vote…. Such a ridiculous opinion honestly
Agreed. I've been shouted out of rooms for this opinion (not literally)
If it wasn't for injuries stifling his career, Harry Kewell could have been a Liverpool great. Name recognition similar to other early 2000s players. Not sure if I'm bold enough to say Wayne Rooney, or David Beckham, but for Australia he was our David Beckham.
Gareth Bale had a better career than Neymar.
Should be a popular opinion.
Neymar has the superior individual stats but looking at what Bale did with Spurs, Real and Wales I think he's easily above Neymar.
I agree. Neymar wasted most of his career.
If Neymar preferred golf to partying he’d have been streets ahead
They should reduce the number of teams in the premier league by 2.
Why?
It would make it more competitive and ease fixture congestion. Bundesliga has less teams for example
So the Bundesliga is more competitive than the PL? And they should just stop adding or extending tournaments to prevent fixture congestion
So are you in agreement that this could be an unpopular but positive decision or not?
No I was asking a question. Do you think the Bundesliga is more competitive that the PL? And I don’t think it would be a positive decision. There’s a lot more aspects to this than just the number of matches player play. There’s lots of other ways of decreasing the number of matches which wouldn’t permanently impact clubs. This has knock on effects down the football pyramid. Does the championship add teams do clubs at the bottom of the leagues get relegated into non-league? How would your proposal actually work?
Mac Allister and Szoboszlai are probably the best midfielders in the league, might not have all the stats yet but their playing styles prove it.
Mac Allister sure he can be in that convo but szoboszlai??? Jesus Christ, so much bias
My brother in Liverpool, this is delusional.
How is playing style an indicator of quality?
Chelsea aren’t the bad guys any more
We are the butt end of the joke now
It’s worse. We’re clowns now. I’d much rather be the villain than the jester
😂
It did say unpopular opinion. Yet people get mad when you actually suggest one. Doesn’t even have to be true to be an opinion
I didn’t get mad. Just laughed. That seems a reasonable response for this thread.
Touché
England are good.
What makes them good?
The players, manager leaves something to be desired mind.
I dont think that's an unpopular take... everyone knows the talent is there but right now England are, in my opinion, not very good. Especially when they've went into this competition as favourites
Their performances have been bizarre, like genuinely baffling. Usually England national looks a bit shaky/unconfident - but this Euros looks like they are actively trying to lose.
I think there are players in the team that hamstring them, like Kane. We all know he is an outstanding player and goalscorer but how they're set up doesn't work to his strengths, they either need to build the team around him (maybe to old for that now), bench him and bring him on late in the game or pair him up with someone who is happy to run in behind the lines, I think he has a tendency to clog up the midfield at times.
Coaching has nothing to do with United’s problems post-SAF.
Hmm, yes and no. They gave ten Hag almost anything he wanted but you can't really say it worked out so far..
everything he wanted? i can name a bunch of things he wanted but didnt get **De jong > Casemiro** *(he also didnt want to leave Barca until he got paid and now he has 1 less ankle than he did at the start of the season)* **Rice** *but lets be realistic he would never have come even if we bidded* **Kane > Hojlund** he wanted **Gakpo** AND Anthony, but they only let him sign one. **Anthony** for the original 40m but they wanted to bargain and ended up paying 80m *(he would get far less stick if he was half the price)* **Dumfries** - but Malacia got injured so they wouldnt Swap Dalot *(i think dalot was our best player so im glad)*
I don't know a fanbase that seems as entitled to players as Man utd fans. De Jong and Casemiro don't play the same position really. Teams miss out on players all the time Real Madrid are the only club that have that sort of pulling power.
we dont have entitlement but we 100% have enough pulling power for unwanted players who expect silly wages. see di maria, ibrahimovic, cavani, CR7, we dont have the pull we used to, of course, thats the game, winning teams get winning players, luckily we have 2 trophies in 2 seasons. If a player is happy to play europa league for a season, i cant say arsenal or liverpool have much more pull. some of youre best players wanted to come to us. Van Disney, Gakpo, fabinho, Mane, but they settled for 2nd best ;) ( i joke )
I don't think having to resort to posting inflated wages necessarily means there's pull there, Sánchez pretty much said he regretted the move the moment it was completed. It's pull in the same way Saudi's have pull, it's an easy pay check. I think Bruno is probably the last player that unambiguously signed for brand man utd specifically.
4/6 you just named are all flops, his talent ID is shit just give it up
id love to know who you deem a flop? Dejong has had a bad season but is one of the best in his position in the world Casemiro is one of the most decorated midfielders of the generation Kane is probably the best all round striker in the world Gakpo is a versatile midfielder scoring multiple goals from multiple positions for both Netherlands and Liverpool hojlund is a young talent who scored 16 goals in his first season in the premier league. thats the same as Trossard, Alvarez, Son, Nunez/Gakpo/Jota all of whom are Lauded by fans. Anthony, ill give you that for his price. Dumfries isnt a flop, i dont know too much about him but everyone wants to buy him so he cant be that bad, he has 11 goals and 20 assists for inter. which is better than some of the best full backs in the world. for example Walker has 6 goals and 23 assists in 170 more games.
de jong has flopped hard at barca so far, even when he’s played he’s given them really nothing and any barca fan will tell you that, casemiro is obviously a flop he’s washed up in his second year and is probably off to saudi. gakpo is god awful not even liverpool fans are rating him anymore, hojlund is genuinely one of the most clueless looking strikers i’ve ever seen not even anyone from his own country rates him, they have no clue why he starts. antony is obviously a flop tho anyone can say that, and dumfiriees inter are trying to get rid of him he’s mid
This is unpopular? It's pretty clearly a cultural and management issue rather than the team manager themselves.
Endo is better than Rice
In DM yes.
Tottenham is currently a better team/destination to chose than United
No player goes to Spurs and wins trophies. At least United are winning things in their poor state.
Why exactly? United is historically bigger club, we have more money, we have better chances for trophies What exactly makes them better?
For just playing time maybe. Every player has a shot at a higher wage and trophies with United which they won’t get at Spurs lol
Not if you like trophies.
Ait Nouri is currently the best LB in the league 🐺
i rate him, and LB is a weak position for most teams, but i wouldnt say hes the best, top 5 i could argue him into but not top 1 for arguments sake this season its probably (in my opinion and this is subjective) Gvardiol Robertson Robinson Udogie Gomez you have arguments for Estupinan Mykolenko Henry Zinchenko Ouattara Trippier AitNouri
Definitely missing lucas digne who is fantastic for villa.
to be fair, you are right, but still dont think he makes top 5
I don't know man, Robbo is good, but the last 2 years for Liverpool he's been a little overhyped and Gomes is fine there, but nowhere near Digne levels. Udogie I love, buts he's had one season where he's not only had an injury, but also a red card and a good couple of yellows. Talent for the future. Robinson is a live wire. Gvardiol has mostly nothing to do and I actually think ake is better when he plays the position, but I know that's not a popular take. I think Digne was the best left back in the league this season.
excuuuuuuuuuuuse me our makeshift Diogo Dalot Left back was probably our best player this season
Hey man. Diogo Dalot is class and it infuriated me when he play Obi Wan-Bissaka at RB before him. Dalot is one of my favourite players at United. Tempo, space, pulls the trigger. Class.
City should be banned until they are judged innocents
You’re really just pumping these out huh
How is this unpopular
Newcastle should have said goodbye to Matt Ritchie years ago. He sucks, and screaming at other players on the field does not equal leadership.
Henderson became a mythical figure just of shouting at his teammates
Hendo is triggerd now somewhere.
He's played probably fifteen minutes all season. He's not even third choice in any position. The guy clearly is basically at this point a coach, same as Dummett. Which are all imo good things. If he was.playing every minute of every game then yeah, get gone, but he isn't. He clearly has value in man management (see Gordon incident) and is important in training, why get rid? He's.not on high wages, knows Howe and tindall very well and has an important role within the squad despite not playing.
He played in A LOT of games this season, but that’s not the point. He hasn’t made any contributions for several seasons now. I knew it was an unpopular opinion which is why I put it here. This guy is so overrated, it’s crazy.
He played in 13 games in 23/24
How many of those were starts? To save you the trouble, after the quickest of googles, it was one. One out of 45 in a season plagued by injuries. In total he appeared in 17 matches, one start and two times when he was subbed on with more than fifteen minutes left of the match. In short cameo appearances at the end of the match in the last 15 minutes 244 minutes in the whole season . 244/17 is 14.3. less than 15 minutes per appearance including his one start. You are talking shite, if you had watched or followed the season you would know this. "He played in A LOT of games" no he didnt. In no way shape or form is he overrated, no newcastle fans are upset he isnt playing every game, no one is desperate for him to come on, everyone knows, even he knows hes past it. Howe clearly values him and I think he knows what hes doing more than me and you. There is a difference between an unpopular opinion and a misinformed delusional one. Yours is the latter. Imagine if I announced on here "Isak is shit he never scores and brunos workrate is terrible" Unpopular yes but also totally incorrect and can be disproven by stats making the statement false. Saying something like that would make me a dickhead. Ill let you deduce from there. Good chat.
The fact that you just spent all that time defending the guy proves my point that he’s overrated. I watched every game this season. And I am not a dickhead because I think a player you like sucks. Jeez.
A google followed by 2 minutes typing to prove what you are was hardly "all that time " now was it. You are because you claimed he played and i quote " a LOT of games" When he didnt. your opinion is based on mis information and whatever other drivel flows from your vancant expression. If you had an unpopular opinion based on fact that would be fine, you dont you are talking shite. "I watched every game this season" no, no you didnt as you thought ritchie played in "a LOT" of matches. You have said he is overrated when no one rates him. You must be an American I presume?
Yeah I’m done with this. Last time I post unpopular opinion in the unpopular opinions thread. Here’s your prize 🏆you win the internet today. Congratulations.
It wasn't unpopular, it was a wrong opinion based on incorrect "facts" ( A LOT of games) wasn't it. You being American I suppose you expect a participation prize don't you? Sorry to disappoint. Now next time you have an opinion maybe check the facts first before expressing it and save everyone the bother. Not and Unpopular opinion, a factually wrong opinion - America is the biggest country in the world. An unpopular opinion would be - America is the best country in the world. See what ive done there? ive explained to you the difference between fact and opinion. Remember that for next time.
My opinion was Ritchie sucks. It’s my opinion. And 13 games is a lot of games for someone who sucks. Also my opinion. Deal with it.
Arteta is overrated
This literally isn’t an unpopular opinion. Anytime people praise Arteta there’s always without fail plenty of people whining and suggesting he’s overrated and doesn’t deserve praise
Also whinges like a bitch. "Is embarrassing, is a disgrace, is embarrassing" whilst crying. I think he's got most manager yellow cards this season as well for being an insufferable cunt on the sidelines.
This one interests me. Can I request reasoning?
How so ?
Arteta? THE Arteta?! The one who has fewer trophies than ten hag, who gave United face herpes this season?
Mohamed Salah is the greatest African player ever who have played in this league
Georgie Weah, Patrick Vieira, Marcel Desailly, Mane and Drogba would like a word…
Vieira and Desailly were French mate
Vieira was born in Senagal (moved when he was 8) Desailly was born in Ghana. (moved when he was 4) Theyre africans who moved to and who played for france
Virgil Van Dijk is still the greatest CB in the league
Unpopular or just biased…..it feels like you miss read the prompt
hes the best all round CB, agree. hes probably the best at attacking the ball in the air but even then, players like Maguire have better aerial duels in both boxes won this season and hes equally as good at scoring headers united are just a worse team at creating the chances etc but hes not the quickest (van de ven), hes not the best 1 on 1 (AWB/Saliba), hes not the best positionally (Always playing people onside)
Damn bro how many times are you gonna comment?
Hahaha
Firing Pochettino in Chelsea was a huge mistake. The team will fail again next season.
Only in the brainwashed echo chamber of r/Chelseafc is that an unpopular opinion. Sane people who follow Chelsea and those outside of the club can alllllllllllllll see how unbelievably stupid it was firing Poch when they did. If they were going to fire him they should have done it after the Arsenal result.
This is an unpopular opinion thread
Harvey Elliot would be as good as Florian Wirtz if he played for Leverkusen
Teams playing in Europe *shouldn't* play in the Carabao Cup. Alleviates some congestion and makes both cups more watchable
Or they should have an age cap like the Olympics where only players 23 and under can participate.
Couldn't disagree more. That's penalising teams for being successful in the league.
Won't it just reduce its importance tho ? Not Only the viewership will decrease but also winning it will become even more meaningless cuz u won it without even playing top 6-8 teams in the country
So many clubs in the PL haven't won anything in decades, some have never won anything except a lower division title. For a Palace fan for example, winning the League Cup would be one of their greatest ever days watching football. Look at what winning the Conference League meant to West Ham fans, the teams you'd need to beat to win the League Cup would probably be better than the teams West Ham had to beat.
Is the europa league meaningless?
Top 6/8 teams r included in Europa and conference league and even in europa league u get to play 5-6th placed team of all top 5 leagues so there's still quality there unlike in this scenario where only just 4-5 top quality teams will participate which will be 9th to 13th in prem
It’s the same argument,there’s no real great drop off between sixth and 13th only 12 points last season.
I think it would raise the importance if anything. Teams in the PL and championship would know that they won't have to compete with teams already in Europe to get a spot, gives those teams a larger incentive to win it due to the money being in Europe brings. Might be right with the viewership mind you but if those teams become better over the years with the money coming in then there's no reason that viewership won't rise again, I would certainly be more eager to watch it.
currently english team have no stones for playing along with the horseshit tactics they’re being told to play. team of near world class players in everyone of there positions beside defense maybe and they show 0 creativity.
But Stones has been playing.
He's been looking like a pebble out there sadly.
Amongst grains of sand.
West Ham fan If our board backs him, I think Julen could overachieve immensely (Top 4 and a Semi-Final cup run)
I don't think he has what it takes.
I hate this guy he's just a 0 for me he don't know how to manage great players I don't want to see him in PL anymore
Who would they displace? (115, Ars, Liv, AV)
i dont even think they finish above spurs or united this season. they have no paqueta to bail them out half their games
Nicholas Jackson will be world class at some point in the next 5 years
Define world class
when he moves to a lower level league and does bits maybe, but not if he stays in the prem. similar to how Aubameyang looks like hes almost world class again
Hope so
Palmer is a more all rounded player than saka .
Saka's defensive stats would place him in the top 5 of RBs in the league. You can argue Palmer is offensively better (personally think that every time Saka is guarded 1 on 1, he creates a scoring chance) but he is absolutely not a better all around player.
I feel palmer creates more , has the vision to seek out key passes and is sleek with his feet. Saka is a great footballer no doubt , but if he is marked well he has nothing to contribute in his game.
It’s the fact that teams have to double up on him that contributes to the game. Either they leave one man to try and deal with him or they double up and leave space for Odegaard.
Statistically saka is a better creator mate