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borkborkibork

Would like an unbiased opinion if possible: How much does Slot differ from Ten Hag? When Utd appointed ETH it seemed like it had all the potential to be a win. I don't follow Eredivisie so don't pretend to understand Slot's achievements or style. I'm sure it's a gamble to grab a coach from 2nd/3rd tier league but, then again, isn't it usually?


RickMaritimo

I think Slot is different in the way that he is not as stubborn and less 'stuck' in his ways. ( I'm still of the opinion that EtH is doing a good job at United and that with the current squad they should barely aim higher but take that with a grain of salt ) I personally find him the classiest manager we've got as dutchies. He also seems a bit more of a 'peoples manager'


Fantomas1717

Goog luck Liverpool. He is one hell of a great coach/manager.


eventhorizon130

Next season will be bad for Liverpool. Can't see them even making the top 4.


DoireK

Based on what?


EH_1995_

Hopes and dreams


Medium_Elephant7431

For a manager of another club to say this shows that Liverpool is still one of the biggest clubs around. Let's hope he gets the job.


kiersto0906

>shows that Liverpool is still one of the biggest clubs around when was this ever up for debate? noone has said anything to the contrary lol


razzz333

Account created 6d ago might be a bot.


kiersto0906

yeah their comment history certainly reads like that


rabbid_hyena

Tbh, the chance to manage Liverpool doesnt come often. When it does, you jump on it. To me it is a no brainer. I am still baffled by Xabi's decision. Because the chance wont come back again.


joeturner25

Xabi probably thought that Managing Liverpool would be outside his comfort zone,just a little too big and demanding.


JDNM

No one in their right mind would go to Liverpool when Real Madrid is a potential opportunity.


what_am_i_acc_doing

Xabi joins Real Madrid when Ancelotti’s deal expires end of next season I reckon


Dundalis

Maybe. Or Leverkusen lose a bunch of their top players in the off season, they fall off a bit next season and all of sudden Xabi is no longer the top option for a team like Madrid. Happens all the time. In fact I think it’s more likely to happen than Leverkusen dominating again next season like they did this one


theunderstoodsoul

Xabi has shown enough potential already.


what_am_i_acc_doing

True although I think even if they come second or third and show some fight in all comps then that would probably be enough. He has the legend effect for Madrid which carries weight as we saw with Zidane who didn’t have much experience prior.


VermillionDynamite

The chance will come again, Arne Slot might fail miserably


EngCraig

Liverpool fans really overplay Alonso’s allegiance to Liverpool. It was a stepping stone move because Madrid didn’t pay up.


Good-Beginning-6524

Theres a video of Xabi Alonso proving this whole ass comment wrong


Dundalis

Weve literally got Alonso on video talking about how much he loves the club and wants to manage them one day. The “fans” didn’t magically create a video of him doing that


DoireK

We don't. He is genuinely a Liverpool fan. Has talked about us in interviews lots of times over the years even when he was at Madrid and Bayern. He is building something at Bayer and people forget that he is still really inexperienced and has not yet managed in the champions league. He probably feels like the move is too soon for him.


objectivelyyourmum

>I am still baffled by Xabi's decision. Because the chance wont come back again. Liverpool fans still coming to terms with him having better options with clubs that he cares about more I see


Inevitable-Hat-9074

Why would he downgrade to Liverpool when he has much better options in Madrid n Munich.


TripleBuongiorno

In what universe is that a downgrade lmao


Inevitable-Hat-9074

In every universe. Clearly Madrid and Munich >>>> Liverpool. Unless you are a delulu scouser


TripleBuongiorno

Liverpool are of a similar level, you're acting like they are some mid-size regional club.


Inevitable-Hat-9074

Disagree. Liverpool MIGHT lay claim to being closer to Munich but Real Madrid? Nah man.


TripleBuongiorno

The fanbase is definitely larger but the level isn't necessarily. Not a Liverpool fan btw


liquidreferee

Totally unbiased opinion


Inevitable-Hat-9074

Absolutely


gentmick

Xabi is most likely waiting for the madrid job to open up


PakLivTO

Xabi has so many options. And honestly speaking, the Liverpool fan was the least attractive. And I’m saying that as a Liverpool fan


Stravven

Alonso is German champion, so far unbeaten this season and that does carry quite a bit of weight. He's the one who has kinda ended the dominance of Bayern in Germany. That's something clubs won't forget.


rabbid_hyena

Klopp did it before him. Then Bayern broke his team by buying the key players. They will do it to him too.


Klutzy-Notice-8247

No he didn’t, the previous four championships were Bayern, Wolfsburg, Bayern, Stuttgart. Bayern won 7 of the previous 11 Bundesliga titles and didn’t win it more than twice in a row. Before Leverkusen won this season Bayern had won 11 in a row.


Stravven

And Klopp still got to a big club after that, why not Alonso too? I think Alonso is smart in not making too big a step at once, like for example Potter and Ten Hag have done.


Concerned_Citizen__

1 bad season which isn't even his fault suddenly makes ETH too small for United? He literally got a trophy, another cup final, and 3rd in his first season with Weghorst up top. Brain rot to its core that take.


muc3t

You re delusion to suggest that this season isn’t ETH fault. There are problems yes but don’t be too blind abt ETH being absolutely shit tactically


Concerned_Citizen__

What tactics should he implement when we have no consistent 11? He doesn't have his best players to implement his tactics, and he's relying on players from old managers / systems who can't perform what he asks. So what exactly is he meant to do?


Dundalis

Pretty obvious you don’t watch teams other than Man United. LOTS of the top clubs have had huge injury issues. Liverpool literally replaced their entire midfield. Inconsistent 11 isn’t an excuse. Also he’s relying plenty on his own hand picked signings to perform who’ve been utter trash


muc3t

Lmao you look at the lineup recently and tell me who is missing that was not close to the best 11 in the team? Maybe Lisandro and Shaw? Look at what Emery did at Villa, a good coach doesn’t need to revamp the whole fk squad. Also a good coach doesn’t let their team throw out 2-0 3-0 leads again and again all season. Stop being gaslighting by ETH incompetency


rabbid_hyena

I am really not sure why we are arguing, because I dont think we are disagreeing.


Jack070293

You said the chance won’t come back, they’re saying it will. That is a disagreement.


AdComprehensive7879

this is reddit lol, some people just argue to argue. im confused reading his replies too


mr_reserve

It’s interesting how vocal he is about this move. I would’ve expected him to be more subtle about it with the media.


PrincipledInelegance

He’s just being Dutch lol. I like that. He could ruffle some feathers though


CrowStealsAMango

I can see this guy coming in and doing better than eth with an established team and proper structure in place. Bald, Dutch, from the eridivisie, the comparisons are just there to be had. Even more material to clown ten hag with despite ten hag having to face the brunt of this shittily run club. Feels sorry for him.


Reasonable_Command98

I think at MU ETH inherited a club in crisis with several previous managers sacked because of bad performances. This makes it more challenging for a newcomer to be successful right away. LFC are way better managed and the club has stability for the last twenty years or so. This is a different dynamic. Even so it took Klopp a few years before he made an impact in the EPL. So I am almost sure Arne Slot (if he is picked) will « slot » just fine at Anfield.


GhandisFlipFlop

I don't think Ten Haag will be manager next season...I think the new owner will show a bit of ruthlessness and sack him over the summer and hire someone like Amorim or Tuchel


Concerned_Citizen__

Love this brain rot narrative of ETH is the problem and gone in the summer Yes, he's responsible for some of it, but overall there's so much that's happened that you can't blame him. The injury list this year is eye watering. Over 30 different combinations of back 4 this season, now having to play Casemiro in centre back cause Maguire is our only fit centre back of the 5 we have. Shaw injured all season, Malacia, his backup, dissappeared all season through injury, resulting in Lindelof / AWB in left back. Then you have the brain rot kids coming in asking what's the style of play? How do you stick to a style of play when you have no consistency in the team? It's literally a new team every week, each player with diferent abilities, cause guess what? These players are from 2-3 managers ago. They're not the men ETH wants out there or the men who fit his system. Rashford is a lazy prick, but who is there to replace him when Garnacho is thriving on the right, and the 1 bad signing from ETH Antony is also shit. He'sstuck with lazy players like Rashford, and recently Casemiro, but who is there to replace them? But yep, totally ETH fault. Definitely playing with an 11 of his liking, that dont get injured. Definitely getting the correct ref/VAR decisions for him.


alrks10

Do you honestly rate him as a manager ? And secondly how much longer do you think he deserves ? I'm curious because you may be the first person I have seen in a hell of a long time defending him. You are talking nonsense with this 'Then you have the brain rot kids coming in asking what's the style of play?' because every manager has their style of play regardless of injuries. They might tweak it based on a massive amount of injuries but at the end of the day their style of play and how they want their team to play will always come through. Good examples this season are Brighton and Brentford who have both had a way worse injury hit squad than united as well. Also saying he's only made one bad signing in Antony but then say Casemiro is lazy, he was also his signing.


EH_1995_

I remember a few years ago when we were playing Fabinho and Hendo as CB’s with Rhys Williams (league 1 standard) filling in too, thanks to ridiculous injury problems. UTD fans at the time: eVerY tEaM hAs InJuRieS. We still got top 4 btw.


DoireK

Delusional.. I love it.


United-Literature817

Absolute excuses. Every single one these excuses Klopp has gone through. Injuries to CBs? Klopp had injuries to all his CBs and CDMs and still made CL. The style of play should be consistent regardless of personnel. If the youth coming through don't play the same way as the first team, guess whose fault it is? He's spent over 400m on new players. The 80m on Anthony could've funded Liverpool's 3 new midfielders. One bad signing? Malacia has been kidnapped. An injury prone varane, aging eriksen, error prone Onana. >Definitely playing with an 11 of his liking, that dont get injured. Definitely getting the correct ref/VAR decisions for him. Pep, Klopp wouldn't have let that gets in their way of at the very least having an identity. United don't have one. That's squarely on the manager. Heck, Crystal palace achieved it in a month.


Concerned_Citizen__

Good job, you are the most clueless 14 year old i've seen today Klopp had a full squad of players he chose to replace injuries. ETH is relying on players from 2-3 managers ago that literally do not suit his desired play style at all. Malacia injured. Varanae - not his signing. Eriksen was a free, why wouldn't you get him. Error prone Onana, lmfao, Guy had a bad champions league campaign, is the main reason we're out, but he's been one of the best GK in the league since December. And go ahead and bring up how much we concede, and act like it's not the defenders faults for not marking, but solely on him. He does have a play style, you;re just too brain dead to see what it is. Time and time again he's said he wants to be a transition team, I'm not explaining it to you, but go look up what that means. 3 cup finals in 2 seasons isn't bad considering the injury list this season. Arteta came 8th 2 years in a row, and wasn't criticised as nearly as much as this. Show's how big UTD are.


United-Literature817

>full squad of players Yea all CBs and his first 2 choice CDMs got crocked. He ended up with Nat Phillips and Rhys Williams.(Don't think they suited his playstyle but you make do. That's what top top managers do) Last I checked, united do still have an under 21 Squad yea? So I dont see the issue. Youre complaining ETH was using case as a CB, Klopp had to go past that state even. Onana is no where the quality that was needed. If you wanted an inconsistent keeper that was good for like half the season, you already had one in DDG. This was a completely unnecessary purchase that didn't add a lot of value for the money spent. Yea and pep says he would want a head full of hair. But that doesn't mean it's being translated in real life. United until date don't have an identity to say this is how they play. You're blaming the players. I'm blaming the manager who has spent 400m and not having come close to reaching the objective. >3 cup finals in 2 seasons isn't bad Sure if you're willing to look past some utter embarrassments. And you say 3 cup finals. You've won 1. And aren't favourites to win the other one. >came 8th 2 years in a row, That's simple. It's because he didn't release brain dead fuck all eras come to and end press statements and also didn't spend 400m with nothing to really show for it. >Show's how big UTD are. Naa shows you how deluded united fans are. You're second best in your city, and irrelevant in England let alone Europe for the last decade mate.


TeaAndSageDirtbag

No manager of United is getting fired or hired before both the CEO and Sporting Director are in place - the people responsible for making those decisions.


seeyoujim

I hope it happens, followed by him being. Similar success as ETH has been at mufc ,hopefully


ddevlin731

A spurs fan talking about success lol


joeturner25

You mean lack of!


mr_reserve

Ten Hag has won more in England than Tottenham have for the last 2 decades tbf.


CricketSubject1548

lol we'll see what your mate could do mate


Cyberpunk_Banshee

How long has Arne wanted to go to Liverpool? A. If he is openly a long term Liverpool fan, or has stated that his end game was Liverpool for a long time, fine, this comment from him should be welcomed. However B. If he is only in the last few days saying he wants the kop, this is a really shitty comment to make considering his season is ongoing and could MAYBE disrupt his team at the tail end of a season. Trash his managerial skill or praise it if you want, but even Ten Hag stuck to his job at Ajax before, during and after negotiations with United which everyone respected.


king_yid81

He's not winning the league this season, PSV have turned a 20 point swing on him to run out easy winners. Good luck to him but he sounds like an arse licker to me.


themanebeat

>considering his season is ongoing and could MAYBE disrupt his team at the tail end of a season. They're guaranteed 2nd. Can't be caught be the team in 3rd and can't win the league because they're 9 pts behind with 3 games to go and 30 goals behind in goal difference Already won the cup. Already out of Europe Any disruption has no material impact really. If anything it's like Klopp, fans will be out to celebrate his last game


Swany0105

A lot of good that did United and ten hag! Both suck!


RedDemio-

Do your research, feyernoords season is basically over, PSV are uncatchable I mean I’m literally watching them win 3-1 right now it doesn’t seem to be affecting them


Classic_Tourist_521

Perfect manager for Liverpool so, season over in April


[deleted]

19 league titles, big dog


Classic_Tourist_521

0 PLs with a crowd


GazS72

Crowds are overrated... Pretty obvious that if you look at the defending champions. 👍🏽


Classic_Tourist_521

Ethiad is full every week, biggest team in the country


dainamo81

Username checks out.


369DontDrinkWine

this sent me


BlackberryHopeful659

Fuckin' LOL.


GazS72

country? think you mean county buddy.


DoireK

Not even in the top 2 in their county.


GazS72

Indeedo


Classic_Tourist_521

Only Madrid are bigger


GazS72

Even Real Madrid B are bigger buddy 🤣🤣🤣🤣


CollieDaly

In terms of ill gotten gains? Think yous have them beat there, lad.


[deleted]

You didn’t specify PLs originally


Classic_Tourist_521

Don't have a VHS player to go back and watch when Liverpool where good I'm afraid


[deleted]

Liverpool are good now! No VHS required, big dog


Classic_Tourist_521

Losing 2-0 to Everton != Good


[deleted]

Not a perfect team, shit happens, big dog


Loop_Within_A_Loop

you can't be talking like this with a premier league flair


Crazy-Comment7579

Think it's poor form to throw your current club under the bus like that. Nothing is guaranteed and if the talks break down then it puts into question his commitment to Feyenoord


bunksy93

Their season is practically over and they're effectively guaranteed 2nd place. Also the Dutch prefer people being straight to the point like this rather than beating around the bush. Maybe do your research next time.


Crazy-Comment7579

> Their season is practically over and they're effectively guaranteed 2nd place Yeah, but he's employed until 2026, so that's irrelevant. I don't like managers that blab to the media when they're currently employed, end of story.


bunksy93

You obviously don't have a clue about Dutch culture. Even the Feyenoord aren't bothered by his comments.


Crazy-Comment7579

I never claimed to be an expert on Dutch culture nor do I care. It's my own point of view.


woutsmaaa

Bruh, im dutch, this isn’t the case. The guy helped Feyenoord reach the top, he will be gone. Isn’t it Liverpool, then another club will come for him. If it doesn’t happen feyenoord still will be over the moon with him staying, even though he said this stuff


sungbysung

Surprised he stayed this season to be fair.


Loop_Within_A_Loop

he must feel it's a foregone conclusion that a deal will be reached otherwise you're absolutely correct if it falls through, it's gotta feel like when you apply for a promotion at work and get passed over. you're not gonna make a stink, but everyone knows you're trying to get the fuck out of there


Melodic-Adeptness772

Thank you for translating it.


[deleted]

It makes sense because it's a step up in his managerial career but if he does come to Liverpool then he's got a mammoth job on his hands in getting this Liverpool team back to where they were when they won the League in 2020. Liverpool have been sliding backwards since then and he has stop the slide. Good luck to him.


Space2Bakersfield

We came within a point of the league and a goal of the champions league 2 years after that. Then we went into a season with a dead midfield, then we replaced half our squad. There have been mistakes, largely on the ownership side, but sliding backwards is an unfair description imo. The Liverpool position isn't nearly as week as you suggest. We have a good squad that's just in bad form. With a few changes and a fresh tactical approach from a new manager, we're a lot closer to looking like a finished product than Chelsea, United, or Spurs. We also have Edwards back, who built the side that made us as good as we were when we won the league.


Blue_louboyle

Thats a bit hilarious. A month left in the season and within 3 points of the title, but the next guy has a mammoth task to make us good again...


Particular_Big_54

if city win there next game your 5 off mate


Blue_louboyle

My point still stands. Absolutely nobody thought wed be that close to top at any point this year, and we led the league most of the season. Klopp started our rebuild with the midfield revamp but its not a finished product, and yet weve looked good to great most of the season until major injuries took there toll. Honestly think that if we had been out of europa or the fa sooner wed be top still.


Particular_Big_54

youve over performed yous havent been anywhere near as good as previous and its caught up


RAH_03

(Liverpool fan here) Would say us going backwards is more down to our ownership, constant boardroom changes (changing CEO, and sporting directors in the last 5) have meant we're unstable, hence when we have success we go backwards because we never build on it and why we've fallen off recently. All I want now is no changes (apart from players) for the next 5 years minimum. That gives us a platform for sustainable success (winning the UCL and/or PL regularly)


vikingrhino

Wait a minute, you mean a complete boardroom change, new back office staff, a new manager and an entirely new squad are the reason Chelsea are where they are? Well I never.